New Republic Slanders Ron Paul, Engages in Vile Dishonesty - Restored Audio Version

[DrunkenGodMode]

I've been reading different works by Kirchick and I've found him to be constant in creating false allegations with no actual fact to back it up.Just in his mind. Just look at his "racist code" nonsense.

[campaign4liberty]

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[anubis2814]

I didn't actually realize just how many racist articles were posted in his newsletter. His newsletter is nothing but a bigots magazine. There is a difference between negligence & incompetence. I was a huge Ron Paul supporter until I started researching the John Birch Society, the states rights movement (pushed by the racist movements, but the alternative being constitutional by the interstate commerce clause). Ron Paul is either racist or oblivious & incompetant, I like to think the later.

[Akatam0t0ma]

@anubis2814:

"I was a huge Ron Paul supporter until I started researching the John Birch Society"

And then decided that big government is the way-to-go, the bigger, the better, right? ;-)

[anubis2814]

@Akatam0t0ma Actually yes, because it is better to have a system we actually have some small say in, as opposed to a system where we have no say in, like before the unions arose, and we started taxing the crap out of the rich which forced them to invest more in their employees and we became the greatest nation on earth. The Ron Paul Ideal has no historical precedent, other than pre-industrialism when we were stealing land. I have a playlist called "My political evolution" explaining my change

[Akatam0t0ma]

@anubis2814:

"it is better to have a system we actually have some small say in"

You don't really have a "say in it" of you are not in the majority, or the plurality. The more I study it, the more I understand that democracy is nothing more than majority absolutism. And the idea of "power to the people" in democracy is a LIE:

watch?v=DibgUh0Z-lY

It's not a power to the people, it's power to the politicians.

[Akatam0t0ma]

@anubis2814:

"we started taxing the crap out of the rich which forced them"

Oh, I see, so you are an advocate of coercion and taking people's wealth by force at the point of a gun. Aren't you such a nice guy?

"The Ron Paul Ideal has no historical precedent"

Yeah, because economically illiterate statist don't want it to happen, you prefer a nanny state over freedom, thinking as if politicians and bureaucrats know better than you how to spend your money.

[anubis2814]

@Akatam0t0ma If money was just money to the rich then it would be theft and coercion. However to the rich, money is no longer hard earned and it is now political leverage, power and influence. Power is one of the most addictive drugs in the world, & the rich now have one incentive, to get more power. Politicians have this same addiction but we can take their power by voting them out. The rich will do anything to acquire more power, & they have much more political sway, lawyers & opportunity

[D10SdelFutbol]

@anubis2814 so be a Giulianni supporter then,. that's really a better choice,... LOL

[GStolyarovII]

@anubis2814 I think that some unscrupulous people used Ron Paul’s name and the prestige it conveyed to write these repugnant racist articles in the 1980s and 1990s. Ron Paul probably did not keep as close a watch of their activities as he could have, but, if so, he can only be faulted for being inobservant and trusting, not for agreeing with them – which he emphatically does not.

[GStolyarovII]

@anubis2814 I do not think that Ron Paul would support the John Birch Society, either. As for the states’ rights movement, that is a more nuanced issue. Sure, some people support states’ rights out of misguided Confederate nostalgia or racist bigotry – but many others support them out of adherence to the original ideas behind the U.S. Constitution of checks and balances among the federal government and the states – which today are increasingly being overrun by the federal government.

[anubis2814]

@GStolyarovII Actually Ron Paul has endorsed the John Birch Society openly.

[GStolyarovII]

@anubis2814 Where has he done this? I would appreciate a source, so that I could ascertain this statement's validity or lack thereof.

[ZombieX13]

lol yeah you look super pissed, G. :p

[GStolyarovII]

@ZombieX13 I was indeed quite incensed at the time. I knew how the New Republic piece would be interpreted by people who did not know much about Ron Paul, and the timing of the article was calculated to derail Paul's performance at the crucial New Hampshire primary.

[ot63]

I agree it is wrong to call Ron Paul a racist for his believes on restricting racist behavior via the government. But I think it's one of his greatest blunders, politically. I don't think you can go around in this racial climate of today and proclaim that and not expect to be fired upon for it. Racism still pervades in this country and thus the government must be called upon to us its power to make sure it is limited as much as possible.

[GStolyarovII]

@ot63 I think that Ron and Rand Paul need to emphasize more that the reason for the prevalence of racism and segregation in the South through the 1960s was an abundance of state laws mandating segregated facilities. Surely, repealing these laws, at any level of government, is worthwhile pro-liberty.

[GStolyarovII]

@ot63 But there is a difference between combating racist and oppressive laws and creating laws that impose “reverse racism” via such policies as affirmative action. The most governments can do here is protect everyone’s individual rights irrespective of race.

Yes, there is still racism. It should be combated through (private) education, freer markets (to give minority individuals more economic opportunities), and a cessation of affirmative action programs that stigmatize minorities.