Staggering to think that an utter wanker like Kinnock, ( or other complete wankers like Blair and Brown ), could ever have gotten themselves into an position of influence whatever. Blair is a criminal, a war-monger, a shit; Brown a very seriously flawed and most unpleasant, incompetent arsehole; and Kinnock is and always was a clown, a fraud, a tax-eater, and has now inveigled his way into Brussels, the ideal place for a person of no talent to continue stealing from all of us. God help us all.
Kinnock was too soft and him and his contempories admit that he didnt want to attack her too much becuase she was a woman. He should have hit her below the belkt and not stopped til she was writihing on the ground. Then he should have verbally kicked her in the groin til she couldnt ever get up.. That is what you do to a tory if you cannot get a kg of semtex into their home..!
@Nerdxinfinity. What was full of crap about the belgrano.? Was an enemy ship intent on sinking the British carriers as it's captain later admitted. Doesn't matter which direction it was going. Warships change direction all the time it's an anti submarine manoeuvre in most navies
I'm a Tory, but I do recognise Thatcher's govt were full of crap at times: i.e. monetarism, coal mines, unemployment, "right to buy", Belgrano, poll tax etc. But she was a strong leader, who changed the economics of UK, and emphasised the ideals of equality of opportunity, to have "the state his servant and not his master". If there's one positive to suffice, it's that her radicalism revealed the faults of capitalism and her politics was a step too far. Labour weren't so successful either.
She is recognised around the world as one of the greatest leaders ever, and just because the left should as loud as they can doesn't mean she was a bad leader as they seem to think
Anyone who knows or understands how an economy works would hold Thatcher in the highest regard. She took over a country with a 3 day working week, power cuts on a daily basis, and morgues stacked so high as they couldn't afford to bury the dead!
OK she started going a bit mad towards the end, and she pissed a lot of northerners off by closing down failing industries like coal and steel, but within 9 years she had made London the 4th largest Financial capital of the world....
@chapmasi Actually the three day week was under Heath. She oversaw lower economic growth than we had in the 1950s and 1960s. That's a fact I'm afraid.
wow tories in the comments who spell like a retard, i thought you all went to Eton? i wonder what would your papar and his fellows think of such idiocy
Also Dave you claim 10 million are "out of work" today (though the true unemployment figure is lower than the previous tory government). In all your long years of experince you say you have, have you forgotten that in the '60s and '70s there were a lot less women working as men were the generally sole bread winners. Surely, this means there were more jobs for the smaller amount of people who needed to work back then, making this a very unfair statistic. You can't get blood from a stone!
Interesting to see thedavewalkershow and thatcheritescot both seem to have very thin grasps of the English lexicon. Perhaps this explains their similar lack to the nuances of British governance?
@thegreatloy one of the greatest asets an M,P, NEEDS IS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR ONE HOUR AND AT THE END OF THE SPEECH HE HAS SAID NOTHING.may be you should apply.
Here Here Scot, they will be gone and hopefully never seen again. Bring on DAVE bring on the TORIES. They can begin the massive repair job on Britain.
thats an incredibly ignorant and arrogant comment. What do you mean 'cut their legs off'? Minimum wage and job creation increased greatly under new labour although I don't agree with their policies. Thatcher didn't care about poor people at all. Her adam smith ideologies have been proven wrong throughout.
actually you are either ill informed or jaded. margaret thatcher took over and unemployment raised by about half a million..... it was then lowered over her reign to about 2 million...... blair and brown inherited this figure more or less and in the same time scale as thatcher yes some jobs have been created..... but not quite as many as thatcher achieved in the same time!
blair and brown inherited 80 billion and a very strong ecconimy.they moved 2.5million on to incapacity bennifits to disgiuse the dole figures,created 800,000 public sector jods we did not need,now they have razed the school leaving age to help disguise the dole figures,any person over 60 who has no job now gets pension credits which takes him off the dole register,and the are lots of othe skeems to disgiuse the true figures on the dole. approx 10 million not working me thinks.
@thatcheritescot LOL... Labour were not handed a strong economy. The fact is the ecomony improved greatly under Labour and would still be doing so now if it wasn't for the global meltdown that came as the result of 5 US banks going bust that caused a ripple effect. I don't know what you mean by "soon" either, because the tories will not be in government on May 6th, but Labour will!
@FabFM labour inherrited a strong ecconomy,labours ecconmy was then built on borrowing cheap money,cheap goods from china and third world ,and 13 years of mounting depts hidden from the british public.we were already borrowing billions upon billions long befor the banks messed up.even as they left office for months they have been waisting billions.the top civil servents have refused to sine off labours accounts because of there madness.
@thedavewalkershow we only had a good economy on paper under the tories dave, we were not flourshing as a country. the fact that the tories denied many workers a minimum wage for 18 years, were responsible for 1 million familes losing their homes, the poll tax and rising VAT by over 105% tells the real story. Don't feed me your tory crap!
@cmsobota i think u will find that in 1979 the country was broke! no money! by 1997 there was lots of money. in 2010 guess what? no money! we will see what happens. but whatever does happen it certainly wont b borrowing more money than all previous govts put together like labour did.... and that was with a good ecconomy people like u may well hate thatcher. but she has, is, and will b proved right. u are clearly wrong!
@cmsobota a non entity? right ok u have just proved how idiotic u must b. like her or loath her no serious person or politician the world over would agree with that statement. not even her most bitter enemys
@cmsobota I use to be a Labour voter but those bastards turned out to be the biggest liars in history with their false policies and going back on everything they said.
Money wise they raped this country! No matter who got into power heavy cuts and tougher guidelines were gonna happen. Lets hope Cameron is fair not to hurt the people that are in desperation or poor situation in life but also hard.
@thatcheritescot One thing Thatcher was right about and that was immigration. Now look at the shit we are in being flooded with immigrants. This wouldn`t of happened if Thatcher was in power.
I`m not a racist before anybody trys make me out as one but I am a realist. Hard lines need to be brought in and we cannot let people milk the country or take the piss out of us. NHS is already pushed to its limits and on its knees.
@thatcheritescot Under Blair's premiership and Brown's chancellorship the economy was growing by 2.7%. Conservatives LIKE to think Labour ruined the economy, but Mr. Ken Clarke admits it's a global financial crisis.
@usernameofnobody 180 billion pound debt, as a result of the banking collapse. You cannot argue Labour somehow created the debt through overspending, because it's a fact that we had the 2nd lowest debt in the G20 before the crisis hit. True, gold reserves were a mistake.
@usernameofnobody Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, so bullshit it's not even funny. We had the 2nd lowest debt in the G20 before the crisis hit. So your argument is blown out the water, completely obliterated.
@usernameofnobody I'm telling you the facts, dipshit! I cannot believe you are denying a fact I just told you! WE HAD THE 2ND LOWEST DEFICIT IN THE G20 BEFORE THE BANKS COLLAPSED. Is that clear enough for you? That means Labour were NOT recklessly overspending as you cunts like to believe. Your argument is destroyed, even Tory frontbenchers admit the myth that Labour created the deficit through overspending is BS.
@usernameofnobody You're so wrong that it's not even funny. You are so horribly wrong you're showing yourself up as an embarressment. Your fact is incorrect.
Shall I tell you the fact one last time, maybe you can read it now.
@usernameofnobody LOL, I see you're mimicking a Tory response there, fresh from the mouth of David Cameron. Labour did not cause the 180 billion pound debt through overspending, FUCKWIT.
@ToaJoe FACT labour inherited 40 billion when they came to to power.fact labour brought in143 taxs worth one 1000 billion in exstra revenue in 13 years.fact brown stole 120 billion from private pensions plus 10 billion from the post office workers pension funds.then sold off our gold at rock bottom prices,FACT we were all most bank rupt be for the ressession started.FACT blair did a runner when things started to go wrong leaving brown to face the music as in fiddled while britain burned.
@thedavewalkershow If you can't spell, I'm not interested in talking to you. Also, Blair hardly 'did a runner'. He was, in the words of Andrew Marr, 'holding onto power until his knuckles turned white from the effort'.
@ToaJoe Interesting, you appear to have missed the first half of the comment.
You also appear to have missed when you said 'Fuck off, rich boy'. Implying that you have some for of hatred for the wealthy. Tell me, how is that acceptable?
@MRaverz I don't hate rich people, I actually have rich friends. But I hate it when rich people have the balls to talk about politics in a way that will affect poor and middle class people. It doesn't matter how qualified they are. If you don't know what you're dealing with, you shouldn't be in that job. It's like a lawyer trying to be a nurse.
@usernameofnobody What a joke... Socialism brought us the NHS, the welfare state, the legalization of abortion and homosexuality, the abolation of the death penalty. Tell me one modern thing that any Conservatives have contributed to modern society. All they do is drag Britain back to the 50's.
@ToaJoe What absolute crap! The way Labour and the left talk about the Conservatives, anyone would think it was Labour and the left that first regulated factory hours, outlawed child labour, abolished the slave trade, brought in free education, the first old age pension system and unemployment benefits.
@usernameofnobody None of those things come close to the welfare state. It was the left wing- the Liberals under Lloyd George's chancellorship and Labour under Clement Attlee that got rid of this ridiculous survival of the fittest primal bullshit that the Tories support. Look at what Cameron is doing today, he is basically reversing the country to it's state in the 50's where only the rich can afford university.
@ToaJoe So you think someone whould be able to live in fucking Mayfair on benifits do you? Also, as it was Labour who brought in Tuition fees, you're talking shite.
@usernameofnobody Labour brought in a reasonable amount of tuition fees. Trebling the fees is a very conservative move- trying to stop the middle and lower class from going to good universities. It's a joke, watching these scumbags bring us back to the 1800's.
@ToaJoe To you it was terrible how so many middle and lower class people became very rich under Thatcher and it was terrible how she allowed them to buy their council houses. socialists just want to keep the poor poor so they can patronise them while having the government control everything.
@usernameofnobody Blah blah blah, same Tory arguments and catch phrases all the time. She had economic success, yes. At the expense of millions. The Tories don't care about unemployment the way Labour do. And the heart of all economic success and growth in the long term is employment. That is why Attlee's government helped drag the country from bankruptcy. Osborne claims to do this, but he is a miserable liar who knows nothing about economics.
@usernameofnobody What's the matter? Ran out of argumentative material? Have to resort to lame half assed insults? What a joke. You tried to say capitalism is modern, and you failed.
@ToaJoe I never tried to say anything of the sort. Also, you've got it the wrong way round. You encaurage enterprise to create jobs not jobs to create enterprise.
@ToaJoe She had very limited economic success. She failed to close the productivity gap, and kept economic growth below the levels that we saw in the 1950s and 1960s. The central plank of 'Thatcherism' was control of growth in the 'money supply' and she failed to meet those targets in 6 out of 8 years. That was pathetic. Her achievements were structural, not economic.
@slimes23 What I was refering to is that she made (perhaps temporarily) the entire population more wealthy as a result of her free market policies. However, I need you to know that I am not a supporter of Thatcher's or the Tory party for that matter.
@ToaJoe its a fact that we now have the hightest debt in the G8.so some where in there 13 years they got there somes wrong.from feast to famin in one stroke.UNLUCKY 13 A YES THE LAST 13 YEARS HAVE BEEN UNLUCKY FOR MOST OF US.except blair,brown,and co ltd.
@thedavewalkershow Are you able to point, pre 2008 crash, to one piece of proposed policy or one Labour policy opposed from any senior Tory, which would indicate our situation would have been better had they been in charge? Labour unquestionably spent too much and made a mess of the economy, but Cameron's pledge to match Labour spending was a key part of his attempt to regain the centre. Perhaps you think the Tories would have regulated the City better? Things would have been the same, or worse.
Interesting perhaps to note that it was Thathcer who changed the age brackets for those defined as "unemployed" (rather than "economically inactive") from 16-' to 18-'. Also we must remember the two disastrous recessions that the conservative party presided over while in office. 3 Million Unemployed coupled with high inflation in the early 1980s, not a terribly impressive record.
@dalisback i remember the 2 world reccessions the conservatives prisided over they were also having to rebiuld great britain after yet another labour goverment disaster left us all most bankrupt. whilst having to fight the leftwing trade unions at the time who were trying to distroy our countrie.when they left office the countrie was in a very strong position.AND HERE WE ARE YET AGAIN.
@thatcheritescot what about the million people that lost their homes under Thatcher? I remember the recession under the tories and like this one my family has suffered unemployment. However Labour are the lesser of the evils. Any Labour government is better than the best tory goverment. If the tories gets back in power (which is thankfully not likely) it won't be long before they start selling off the NHS.
@FabFM first of all there was not a million people lost their homes. thats utterly wrong. 1 mllion people did however buy homes. yes trouble there may have been... but it was not what u said.
@thatcheritescot Yes, a million people DID lose their homes. This has been said in parliament, so it's not utterly wrong, you're just utterly wrong to deny it.
@FabFM it may have been said in parliment that a million peolpe lost there homes but i bet it was a labour mp that said it.labour also said there was only 300,000 asylum seekers turned out to be 2million in the countrie,10,000 ilegals,more like 1 million.weapons of mass distruction none found.13 years of labour lies.
your such a hypocrit, look at the facts, the torys are in it for themselfs and no one else, just because you dad told you how good the tories were and that labour was bad dosent mean its right, they caused poverty, wars, un-employment and sold out the nhs and other public servaces just as their doing now. and on top on top of that, there is a huge deficit we need to repay, and were chuck 40bn to europe every single day, im not saying labour have done well but for god sake david camrons a false.
@sebprice Wars? Blair had a record for sending British troops into action in his first term. The Gulf and Falkland wars were fought under Thatcher and Major, neither of those two have been tried as war criminals and neither will be.
Poverty, there will always be relative poverty, hence the term, relative.
You mean they didn't bankrupt the country by recklessly spending and taking the deficit from 6 billion to 178 billion by spending on the nhs, you're right they didn't.
@kkwillsaveus margret thatcher went to war because the falklands were under attack,john major went to war because saddam hussain attacked quwait.blair went into an illegal war for his own ego.any one who thinks poverty will ever be eradicated is a fool.labour inherited 40 bilionwhen they came to power,they brought in an exstra148 indirect taxs raking in billions upon billions of pounds over the 13 years they were in power and still counld not balance there books.
@sebprice facts blair has made £20 million since he did a runer,prescott hated the house of lords now, joined them on £365 a day.plus old age pension,gold plated ring fenced pension,and god only knows what else.my dad voted labour,the gap between rich and poor grue far more under labour over the 13 years they were in power.we have 10 million not working inherited from labour.labour have rented out the NHS for many years its called lend and lease and costs 10 times as much to pay back.
@FabFM if you want to listen to some of the worst hipocrasy,and biggist load of bollocks,turn on the T,V and whatch edd balls,and the milliband brothers going round the countrie telling every one what they want to hear now there out of power and dont have to back up there bullshit.
@thedavewalkershow what rubbish. The next election is going to be fun. The tories and lib dems won't be able to debate against each other as they are both shitting on the throne together at present and will both be responsible for the crap they are brigning this country. labour will be back in power before we know it!
@FabFM after 13 years of labour shitting on the people of britain,trashing our countrie is the reason it is now taking to partys working together to put things right.we have been in the crap for many years labour just managed to keep it well hidden.once the conservatives and the lib dems sort out the mess we are in history may well repeat it self as in the past labour will get back into power totaly fuck everything up again then leave it to others to put it right.
@MRaverz The Labour is God's party. God love's unwillingly right? Then he would have supported people having a minimum wage, an NHS and women having the right to vote. All of these were passed by Labour governments and opposed by the tories. Nuff said!
The tories destroy our finances. They give us record unemployment, record home repos and record VAT. The only thing is they cook the books to make things look better, but actually they are worse!
@FabFM The Tories didn't destroy our finances, they haven't been in power for nearly two decades! Yes, Labour did good things (i.e. minimum wage) and we should count them on it, but we should also acknowledge the fact that Labour screwed up our money, brought in tuition fees and took us into an illegal war.
The education problems we face today are the backlash of Labour overspending. People should be protesting against the people who make the mess, not those who have to clean it up!
@MRaverz Stop lying. The last time the tories were in power was in 1997. That was 13 years ago, not two decades ago! And yes, tories do destroy our finances and make people worse off, but make it look like they don't by cooking the books. A lower deficit does not mean less poverty, infact it often means more! Also, there is no evidence to support your claim of an illegal war. The war was passed in parliament and every inquiry since has found nothing to suggest it wasn't legal.
The war was illegal, because the UN didn't sanction it.
Overspending causes poverty, over the last 13 years we've had just that. Labour seems to insist that rather than giving people equal opportunities, they must force them to be the same! (Hence, aims to get 50% of people into Uni)
And let's just remember that tuition fees were brought in by Labour only months after they said they were never bring them in.
@MRaverz 13 years is 7 years shy of two decades, so nowhere near it, infact it's closer to one!
No one is forced to go to university. Infact no one is forced to continue education after 16. What Labour have done is allow more people to opportunity to do so if they so desire.
Oh, and it's parliamnet that pass laws, not the UN!
@MRaverz I lived in poverty under a conservative government in the 80s, and let me tell you something for nothing, record unemployment and record home losses did nothing to improve it!
@MRaverz Labour improved education. They ivested more into schools than the tories ever did, or ever will. The problems we face today are the result of too many tory governments in the past, not Labour.
@FabFM it was about 80,000 lost there homes during the last recession.all familys suffer in any recession lifes tuff.i lost my home my bissiness so what i just picked my self up and started again.the torys have got back into power all though labour used every dirty underhanded trick in the book trying to cling on.the torys can not sell off the nhs because most of the nhs is owned by the private sector labour built the nhs on a lend and lease contract over a 45 year time scale.
@FabFM (33): "I remember the recession under the Tories"
You would have been born around 1977, thus would have been 2yrs old when Thatcher became PM, no more than 5yrs old in 1982, ... what year would you be referring to when you say "million people lost their homes under Thatcher"?
After your answer, we can discuss who exactly those 'million' people were--residents of then-government-owned Council houses, or people who owned their houses even then, or ... .
@warriorprince1010 What bullshit... typical crap, blame the last government. The oldest excuse in the book. Tories have never been able to step up to the plate and take responsibility, they always pass the buck. They're not fit to run public toliets, let alone a country!
@FabFM one of the main reasons for the population explosion in the 70,s was because of the amount of time the so called britsih workers spent at home dew to the caous caused buy the trade unions when they were trying to distroy great britain.
@FabFM there is no one else to blame labour have spent the last 13 years in some sort of fantasy land.runing up 200 billion pounds worth of detps.when ever labour get in they all ways do the same leave us bankrupt in this case it is a coillishion goverment that has to step up the plate.tories dont want to clean the toilets they have a bigger shit house to clean up its called britain after 13 years of labour.
@thedavewalkershow you may think you are humourous, but you ain't. You're a typical tory twat. The tories gave us the highest taxes and biggest ever unemployment and now they are back in power, we are heading in that direction again.
@FabFM its not the taxs you see under the tories ,its the hidden taxs brought in by labour 148 in total that you can not see .under labour we have approx 10 million not working,remember the gap between the rich and poor widdend far greater under new labour than an any other time in our history.labour have reduced us to a countrie resembling some third world banana republic.
@thedavewalkershow You're living in a dream world. The highest ever unemployment in this country was under the last tory government of 3.5 million. We may have ten million "not working" in the UK today but this figure is not a figure of unemployment alone, which is much less than 3 million, this figure you claim includes people on disability benefits who can not work and retired rich people. The fact you have to warp figures in this way shows you can not be taken seriously, you're full of crap!
@FabFM i live in the real world not the dream world labour invented which helped keep them in power for 13 years and is now proving to be the biggest cause of britains bankruptsy since records began.disability, bennifits,pension credits,exstending the school leaving age,and many other ellabrate titles desined to hide the amount of people not working when labour were in power.just a small part of all the other lies they told us now you just go back to sleep while we sort out there mess.
@thedaveWANKERshow You do not live in the real world. You are a stupid buffoon. Your nothing but a fool sitting in his chair as the owner of his own business slagging off those below you. You will never sort out any mess, cause all you care is about yourself. It won't be long before labour are back in power, when the British public will soon learn than the ConDem lot are not a soloution, they are a much bigger problem!
@FabFM i left school at 14 could not read or right,brought up on rough council estate full of mainly labour voters, violent drunken father, mother not much better,very little food in the house all ways lots of beer, holes in my shoes,second hand clothes,for many years i had to listen to my father spouting off all that crap about labour and how they were the only party that understood the working man.now 46 years on every labour controlled estate has the same story to tell as myself.WAKE UP.
@thedavewalkershow CONTINUED the only time i sit in a chair is when i am on utube,average working week 65 hours,over 20 trades i can turn my hand to,the only people i consider below me are liers,bennifit cheats,thieves and the usual trash in our countrie.if i only cared about my self i would not be on utube talking to you, slaging of labour and what they have done to our countrie.i might be a wanker but they are very long strokes and i deside when its time to ejeculate not some one else.
@thedavewalkershow lol... While I dissagree with a lot of your opinions, i apoligise for calling you a wanker, it was an obvious gag, but I shouldn't result to childish name calling cause the only person it makes look like a wanker is me.
@thatcheritescot over the last 13 years 80% of jobs created in britain have gone to people born out side britain.2 mill asylum seekers costing the tax payer 30 billion a year,1 mill ilegals,2.5mill on the dole 3mill 0n in capacity benifits,at least i million hidden on silly skeems.aproxx 10 million not working under labour.on the bright side blair s estimated earnings over the next ten years is 100,million.and brown retires on a gold plated inflation proof pension for life.
I believe in personal freedom, small government, lower taxes and individual responsibility, all of which have disappeared over the past 12 years of Labour's mismanagement and ineptitude.
@binstig lowering taxes for everyone is a good thing. fact is that if u tax the rich too muxch they move..... dont pretend that thatcher only helped the rich. thats simply not true. health spending was increased. infact all public spending rose over the thatcher years
still find it amazing the tories got back in in 1992 with the poll tax & resession a bloody sight worse than this one with intrest rates at 15% & a good 10 years of Thatcher! Would Kinnock have changed anything?
@sehort i agree with some of what u said..... it is amazing that the torys won in 92.... but that is because the opposition were awfull..... i mean kinnock only had to b better than major.... he wasnt
In away it does make me angery. All i can say to anyone voteing tory is VAT SCHOOL MILK POLL TAX MINERS STRIKE ect. As far as todays tory man Cameron i say lier ,he will not give us a referenum and he will hit our pensioners NHS and every working man ,WHY, cos thats what a tory does to line the pokets of big buisness. Lets not forget he will allow the twisted minded toffs to have there play time back by allowing fox hunting again, THAT JUST ABOUT SAYS IT ALL.
> Well regardless of what all these Labour supporters are saying;
We're going to have a Conservative Government with Cameron as PM in less than a year, so you can take your Communist Idea's to Russia or China and try to implement your dead-end policies there..
M. Thatcher saved this country, a Conservative Government saved this country,
And it's going to be another Conservative Government to save us from the crap Labour has put us through for the last ten years !
Revitalised the economy, democratised the Trade Unions, killed inflation, allowed the working classes to buy their own houses, deregulated the economy (and if you believe that caused the crisis then you are a fucking moron), took the difficult decisions that allowed the economy to grow 8 consecutive years and then after the ERM debacle 16 years. It was her labour market reforms that brought unemployment down to virtually zero by the year 2000.
How'd you get these nice intros?
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jimmysfish1 2 months ago
Staggering to think that an utter wanker like Kinnock, ( or other complete wankers like Blair and Brown ), could ever have gotten themselves into an position of influence whatever. Blair is a criminal, a war-monger, a shit; Brown a very seriously flawed and most unpleasant, incompetent arsehole; and Kinnock is and always was a clown, a fraud, a tax-eater, and has now inveigled his way into Brussels, the ideal place for a person of no talent to continue stealing from all of us. God help us all.
TonyBlairsaWanker 2 months ago
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Agreed.
Poor Neil Kinnock, he was no match for Maggie. The "Welsh Windbag" would have been better dubbed the "Welsh Punching Bag".
ameroffsky 1 month ago
Kinnock was too soft and him and his contempories admit that he didnt want to attack her too much becuase she was a woman. He should have hit her below the belkt and not stopped til she was writihing on the ground. Then he should have verbally kicked her in the groin til she couldnt ever get up.. That is what you do to a tory if you cannot get a kg of semtex into their home..!
whiskasalpha 4 months ago
I'd like to slap the living shit out of that jackass at 4:02.
christwhatacoward 4 months ago
Bernard Weatherill was a great speaker. the last great one... apart from Betty Boothroyd
dylanlowe456 5 months ago
@Nerdxinfinity. What was full of crap about the belgrano.? Was an enemy ship intent on sinking the British carriers as it's captain later admitted. Doesn't matter which direction it was going. Warships change direction all the time it's an anti submarine manoeuvre in most navies
sw5mister 5 months ago
Never voted Tory, never will. I hope I will have the opportunity to dance on that woman's grave.
GayBlade001 5 months ago
There is one reason i'm never going to vote labour ever again - IMMIGRATION.
afolksinger 7 months ago
I'm a Tory, but I do recognise Thatcher's govt were full of crap at times: i.e. monetarism, coal mines, unemployment, "right to buy", Belgrano, poll tax etc. But she was a strong leader, who changed the economics of UK, and emphasised the ideals of equality of opportunity, to have "the state his servant and not his master". If there's one positive to suffice, it's that her radicalism revealed the faults of capitalism and her politics was a step too far. Labour weren't so successful either.
nerdxinfinity 8 months ago
What year please?
afolksinger 9 months ago
@afolksinger. 12 May 1988
densaner77 7 months ago
She is recognised around the world as one of the greatest leaders ever, and just because the left should as loud as they can doesn't mean she was a bad leader as they seem to think
FAYstuart 1 year ago
Anyone who knows or understands how an economy works would hold Thatcher in the highest regard. She took over a country with a 3 day working week, power cuts on a daily basis, and morgues stacked so high as they couldn't afford to bury the dead!
OK she started going a bit mad towards the end, and she pissed a lot of northerners off by closing down failing industries like coal and steel, but within 9 years she had made London the 4th largest Financial capital of the world....
Thatcher = legend
chapmasi 1 year ago 6
@chapmasi Actually the three day week was under Heath. She oversaw lower economic growth than we had in the 1950s and 1960s. That's a fact I'm afraid.
slimes23 1 year ago
The speaker is scary!
gazz12345a 1 year ago
i intend to both piss and dance on this old bitch's grave within 6 months of police guard being taken off it
cheapy2006 1 year ago
regardless of your opinions of thatcher,you have to admit,she owned that house.
garethella 1 year ago
Die Maggie Die!
densaner77 1 year ago
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wow tories in the comments who spell like a retard, i thought you all went to Eton? i wonder what would your papar and his fellows think of such idiocy
Jimmmeeehhh 1 year ago
wow tories in the comments who spell like a retard, i thought you all went to Eton? That would your papar and his fellows think of such idiocy
Jimmmeeehhh 1 year ago
ha kinnock dead man walking :)
fericitchannel 1 year ago
Souds like she handled herself pretty well, I don't think an American politician could take this kind of thing.
bjr43 1 year ago
Also Dave you claim 10 million are "out of work" today (though the true unemployment figure is lower than the previous tory government). In all your long years of experince you say you have, have you forgotten that in the '60s and '70s there were a lot less women working as men were the generally sole bread winners. Surely, this means there were more jobs for the smaller amount of people who needed to work back then, making this a very unfair statistic. You can't get blood from a stone!
FabFM 1 year ago
how old is that silly fucker?
MrJustflexit 1 year ago
Dave Walker and dikkie doo are both wrong. Then again, they suppotted Thatcher, so what do you expect.
FabFM 1 year ago
Unusual for the speaker of the house to be doing the most screaming.
timegrinder 1 year ago
Interesting to see thedavewalkershow and thatcheritescot both seem to have very thin grasps of the English lexicon. Perhaps this explains their similar lack to the nuances of British governance?
thegreatloy 1 year ago
@thegreatloy one of the greatest asets an M,P, NEEDS IS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR ONE HOUR AND AT THE END OF THE SPEECH HE HAS SAID NOTHING.may be you should apply.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thegreatloy: Ha ha ha ha - brilliant!
KendoSaggyknackers 1 year ago
Here Here Scot, they will be gone and hopefully never seen again. Bring on DAVE bring on the TORIES. They can begin the massive repair job on Britain.
stephenhem1 1 year ago
David Blunkett's question remains topical given the recent takeover of Cadbury by Kraft...
Dendiol 1 year ago
@Dendiol tipical bull shit M,Ps they wait till craft took over cadburys then they make alot of noise and bebate it in patliment.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
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Check out (JOHN MCCULLAGH "ILL DANCE ON YOUR GRAVE MRS THATCHER"........on youtube or myspace,well worth a listen
LARRSON77 2 years ago
david blunkett, is that same one as the former home secretary??
DrGustil 2 years ago 2
@DrGustil yes the very same david blunket
thatcheritescot 2 years ago
what was this taped??
DrGustil 2 years ago 2
Thatcher got people off their arses and put them on their knees.
joejjohnston 2 years ago
@joejjohnston And then New Labour cut their legs off and chucked disability benefits their way.
Taffy29 2 years ago 6
thats an incredibly ignorant and arrogant comment. What do you mean 'cut their legs off'? Minimum wage and job creation increased greatly under new labour although I don't agree with their policies. Thatcher didn't care about poor people at all. Her adam smith ideologies have been proven wrong throughout.
joejjohnston 2 years ago 3
actually you are either ill informed or jaded. margaret thatcher took over and unemployment raised by about half a million..... it was then lowered over her reign to about 2 million...... blair and brown inherited this figure more or less and in the same time scale as thatcher yes some jobs have been created..... but not quite as many as thatcher achieved in the same time!
thatcheritescot 2 years ago
Hi thacther
blair and brown inherited 80 billion and a very strong ecconimy.they moved 2.5million on to incapacity bennifits to disgiuse the dole figures,created 800,000 public sector jods we did not need,now they have razed the school leaving age to help disguise the dole figures,any person over 60 who has no job now gets pension credits which takes him off the dole register,and the are lots of othe skeems to disgiuse the true figures on the dole. approx 10 million not working me thinks.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago 8
it just shows u how much has been wasted in labours time. thank god they will b gone soon!
thatcheritescot 1 year ago 3
@thatcheritescot LOL... Labour were not handed a strong economy. The fact is the ecomony improved greatly under Labour and would still be doing so now if it wasn't for the global meltdown that came as the result of 5 US banks going bust that caused a ripple effect. I don't know what you mean by "soon" either, because the tories will not be in government on May 6th, but Labour will!
FabFM 1 year ago 2
@FabFM labour inherrited a strong ecconomy,labours ecconmy was then built on borrowing cheap money,cheap goods from china and third world ,and 13 years of mounting depts hidden from the british public.we were already borrowing billions upon billions long befor the banks messed up.even as they left office for months they have been waisting billions.the top civil servents have refused to sine off labours accounts because of there madness.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow we only had a good economy on paper under the tories dave, we were not flourshing as a country. the fact that the tories denied many workers a minimum wage for 18 years, were responsible for 1 million familes losing their homes, the poll tax and rising VAT by over 105% tells the real story. Don't feed me your tory crap!
FabFM 1 year ago
@thatcheritescot
They got it so wrong in 1979 and will again in 2010
cmsobota 1 year ago
@cmsobota i think u will find that in 1979 the country was broke! no money! by 1997 there was lots of money. in 2010 guess what? no money! we will see what happens. but whatever does happen it certainly wont b borrowing more money than all previous govts put together like labour did.... and that was with a good ecconomy people like u may well hate thatcher. but she has, is, and will b proved right. u are clearly wrong!
thatcheritescot 1 year ago 2
@thatcheritescot
I dont hate Thatcher, she was as history has proved a nonentity
cmsobota 1 year ago
@cmsobota a non entity? right ok u have just proved how idiotic u must b. like her or loath her no serious person or politician the world over would agree with that statement. not even her most bitter enemys
thatcheritescot 1 year ago 13
@cmsobota, a "non entity"? That truly must be the most moronic, ignorant statement I've ever heard. Gee, what planet do you live on?
Surely, your hate has got into your stupid little peanut-sized brain, and eaten up whatever is left of it.
HAZIDEAD 1 year ago
If ever there was a non entity it was neil kinnock.
smoochym 1 year ago
@cmsobota I use to be a Labour voter but those bastards turned out to be the biggest liars in history with their false policies and going back on everything they said.
Money wise they raped this country! No matter who got into power heavy cuts and tougher guidelines were gonna happen. Lets hope Cameron is fair not to hurt the people that are in desperation or poor situation in life but also hard.
Lets ween the benefits cheats out.
TrilogyofC 1 year ago
@thatcheritescot One thing Thatcher was right about and that was immigration. Now look at the shit we are in being flooded with immigrants. This wouldn`t of happened if Thatcher was in power.
I`m not a racist before anybody trys make me out as one but I am a realist. Hard lines need to be brought in and we cannot let people milk the country or take the piss out of us. NHS is already pushed to its limits and on its knees.
TrilogyofC 1 year ago
@thatcheritescot Under Blair's premiership and Brown's chancellorship the economy was growing by 2.7%. Conservatives LIKE to think Labour ruined the economy, but Mr. Ken Clarke admits it's a global financial crisis.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe 180 billion debt, sold off gold reserves and record number of bank ruptcies all in a time of 'economic growth.'
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody 180 billion pound debt, as a result of the banking collapse. You cannot argue Labour somehow created the debt through overspending, because it's a fact that we had the 2nd lowest debt in the G20 before the crisis hit. True, gold reserves were a mistake.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe We were getting more and more in debt before the banking colapse happened.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, so bullshit it's not even funny. We had the 2nd lowest debt in the G20 before the crisis hit. So your argument is blown out the water, completely obliterated.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe So you are saying that we were not borrowing anything? You'll be denying the deficet next.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody I'm telling you the facts, dipshit! I cannot believe you are denying a fact I just told you! WE HAD THE 2ND LOWEST DEFICIT IN THE G20 BEFORE THE BANKS COLLAPSED. Is that clear enough for you? That means Labour were NOT recklessly overspending as you cunts like to believe. Your argument is destroyed, even Tory frontbenchers admit the myth that Labour created the deficit through overspending is BS.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe We had spent and borrowed to the point where we could not ride the recesion. That is the fact. There's no need to swear you fuckwit.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody You're so wrong that it's not even funny. You are so horribly wrong you're showing yourself up as an embarressment. Your fact is incorrect.
Shall I tell you the fact one last time, maybe you can read it now.
WE. HAD. THE. 2ND. LOWEST. DEBT. IN. THE. G20. BEFORE. THE. BANKING. CRISIS. HIT.
So you're wrong in all aspects. Your argument is gone. Forget it.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Do you under stand the diff between debt and deficit. Of course you don't because socialists don't understand economics.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody LOL, I see you're mimicking a Tory response there, fresh from the mouth of David Cameron. Labour did not cause the 180 billion pound debt through overspending, FUCKWIT.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody hear, hear!
MRaverz 1 year ago
@ToaJoe FACT labour inherited 40 billion when they came to to power.fact labour brought in143 taxs worth one 1000 billion in exstra revenue in 13 years.fact brown stole 120 billion from private pensions plus 10 billion from the post office workers pension funds.then sold off our gold at rock bottom prices,FACT we were all most bank rupt be for the ressession started.FACT blair did a runner when things started to go wrong leaving brown to face the music as in fiddled while britain burned.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow If you can't spell, I'm not interested in talking to you. Also, Blair hardly 'did a runner'. He was, in the words of Andrew Marr, 'holding onto power until his knuckles turned white from the effort'.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe I see you turn to disarray when faced with someone who knows the facts.
It would seem a common theme with the Labour party these days.
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz I notice you didn't present any facts or statistics in your comment.
Fuck off, rich boy.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Hah, I'm far from rich. I get the maximum student grant & loan. I'm not even a Tory, lol.
Such a level of stupidity could only come from New Labour. :P
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz I notice you only insulted me in that comment.
Fuck off.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Interesting, you appear to have missed the first half of the comment.
You also appear to have missed when you said 'Fuck off, rich boy'. Implying that you have some for of hatred for the wealthy. Tell me, how is that acceptable?
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz I don't hate rich people, I actually have rich friends. But I hate it when rich people have the balls to talk about politics in a way that will affect poor and middle class people. It doesn't matter how qualified they are. If you don't know what you're dealing with, you shouldn't be in that job. It's like a lawyer trying to be a nurse.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe oh what a suprise!!! Classic, socialist, outdated, class envy bullshit.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody Outdated? Lol! If anything is outdated, it's the classic right wing politics that dominanted Britain in the 19th century.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe not half as outdated as the socialist crap that claims to be against it.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody What a joke... Socialism brought us the NHS, the welfare state, the legalization of abortion and homosexuality, the abolation of the death penalty. Tell me one modern thing that any Conservatives have contributed to modern society. All they do is drag Britain back to the 50's.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe What absolute crap! The way Labour and the left talk about the Conservatives, anyone would think it was Labour and the left that first regulated factory hours, outlawed child labour, abolished the slave trade, brought in free education, the first old age pension system and unemployment benefits.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody None of those things come close to the welfare state. It was the left wing- the Liberals under Lloyd George's chancellorship and Labour under Clement Attlee that got rid of this ridiculous survival of the fittest primal bullshit that the Tories support. Look at what Cameron is doing today, he is basically reversing the country to it's state in the 50's where only the rich can afford university.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe So you think someone whould be able to live in fucking Mayfair on benifits do you? Also, as it was Labour who brought in Tuition fees, you're talking shite.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody Labour brought in a reasonable amount of tuition fees. Trebling the fees is a very conservative move- trying to stop the middle and lower class from going to good universities. It's a joke, watching these scumbags bring us back to the 1800's.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe To you it was terrible how so many middle and lower class people became very rich under Thatcher and it was terrible how she allowed them to buy their council houses. socialists just want to keep the poor poor so they can patronise them while having the government control everything.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody Blah blah blah, same Tory arguments and catch phrases all the time. She had economic success, yes. At the expense of millions. The Tories don't care about unemployment the way Labour do. And the heart of all economic success and growth in the long term is employment. That is why Attlee's government helped drag the country from bankruptcy. Osborne claims to do this, but he is a miserable liar who knows nothing about economics.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Keepp up your left wing rhetoric. The more you do it the more unreasonable it sounds.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody What's the matter? Ran out of argumentative material? Have to resort to lame half assed insults? What a joke. You tried to say capitalism is modern, and you failed.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe I never tried to say anything of the sort. Also, you've got it the wrong way round. You encaurage enterprise to create jobs not jobs to create enterprise.
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@usernameofnobody No, dipshit, that's a Tory theory not a fact.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe She had very limited economic success. She failed to close the productivity gap, and kept economic growth below the levels that we saw in the 1950s and 1960s. The central plank of 'Thatcherism' was control of growth in the 'money supply' and she failed to meet those targets in 6 out of 8 years. That was pathetic. Her achievements were structural, not economic.
slimes23 1 year ago
@slimes23 What I was refering to is that she made (perhaps temporarily) the entire population more wealthy as a result of her free market policies. However, I need you to know that I am not a supporter of Thatcher's or the Tory party for that matter.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@slimes23 the only people that don't like thatcher are people that think that society and the country ow them everthing.
aka ; spongers
Scooterez 1 year ago
@Scooterez You should learn English.
slimes23 1 year ago
@Scooterez
Poor English scooterez but its not your fault you was educated under a conservative government.
jellyboy123 1 year ago
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smoochym 11 months ago
@ToaJoe its a fact that we now have the hightest debt in the G8.so some where in there 13 years they got there somes wrong.from feast to famin in one stroke.UNLUCKY 13 A YES THE LAST 13 YEARS HAVE BEEN UNLUCKY FOR MOST OF US.except blair,brown,and co ltd.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago 6
@thedavewalkershow Are you able to point, pre 2008 crash, to one piece of proposed policy or one Labour policy opposed from any senior Tory, which would indicate our situation would have been better had they been in charge? Labour unquestionably spent too much and made a mess of the economy, but Cameron's pledge to match Labour spending was a key part of his attempt to regain the centre. Perhaps you think the Tories would have regulated the City better? Things would have been the same, or worse.
TheNotoriousBOA 4 months ago
Interesting perhaps to note that it was Thathcer who changed the age brackets for those defined as "unemployed" (rather than "economically inactive") from 16-' to 18-'. Also we must remember the two disastrous recessions that the conservative party presided over while in office. 3 Million Unemployed coupled with high inflation in the early 1980s, not a terribly impressive record.
dalisback1 1 year ago
@dalisback i remember the 2 world reccessions the conservatives prisided over they were also having to rebiuld great britain after yet another labour goverment disaster left us all most bankrupt. whilst having to fight the leftwing trade unions at the time who were trying to distroy our countrie.when they left office the countrie was in a very strong position.AND HERE WE ARE YET AGAIN.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow Amen brother.
kkwillsaveus 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow: Wow... I bet you wish you could have run that one through the spellchecker....
KendoSaggyknackers 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow 80 billion better off, true. But she sold off all our contries assetts
skateyuk 1 year ago
@skateyuk in one stroke brown sold off all our gold reserves costing britain billions as soon as became chancelor and it went down hill from there.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thatcheritescot what about the million people that lost their homes under Thatcher? I remember the recession under the tories and like this one my family has suffered unemployment. However Labour are the lesser of the evils. Any Labour government is better than the best tory goverment. If the tories gets back in power (which is thankfully not likely) it won't be long before they start selling off the NHS.
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM first of all there was not a million people lost their homes. thats utterly wrong. 1 mllion people did however buy homes. yes trouble there may have been... but it was not what u said.
thatcheritescot 1 year ago 6
@thatcheritescot Yes, a million people DID lose their homes. This has been said in parliament, so it's not utterly wrong, you're just utterly wrong to deny it.
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM it may have been said in parliment that a million peolpe lost there homes but i bet it was a labour mp that said it.labour also said there was only 300,000 asylum seekers turned out to be 2million in the countrie,10,000 ilegals,more like 1 million.weapons of mass distruction none found.13 years of labour lies.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
your such a hypocrit, look at the facts, the torys are in it for themselfs and no one else, just because you dad told you how good the tories were and that labour was bad dosent mean its right, they caused poverty, wars, un-employment and sold out the nhs and other public servaces just as their doing now. and on top on top of that, there is a huge deficit we need to repay, and were chuck 40bn to europe every single day, im not saying labour have done well but for god sake david camrons a false.
sebprice 1 year ago
@sebprice Wars? Blair had a record for sending British troops into action in his first term. The Gulf and Falkland wars were fought under Thatcher and Major, neither of those two have been tried as war criminals and neither will be.
Poverty, there will always be relative poverty, hence the term, relative.
You mean they didn't bankrupt the country by recklessly spending and taking the deficit from 6 billion to 178 billion by spending on the nhs, you're right they didn't.
kkwillsaveus 1 year ago
@kkwillsaveus margret thatcher went to war because the falklands were under attack,john major went to war because saddam hussain attacked quwait.blair went into an illegal war for his own ego.any one who thinks poverty will ever be eradicated is a fool.labour inherited 40 bilionwhen they came to power,they brought in an exstra148 indirect taxs raking in billions upon billions of pounds over the 13 years they were in power and still counld not balance there books.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@sebprice facts blair has made £20 million since he did a runer,prescott hated the house of lords now, joined them on £365 a day.plus old age pension,gold plated ring fenced pension,and god only knows what else.my dad voted labour,the gap between rich and poor grue far more under labour over the 13 years they were in power.we have 10 million not working inherited from labour.labour have rented out the NHS for many years its called lend and lease and costs 10 times as much to pay back.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow you talk bollocks!
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM if you want to listen to some of the worst hipocrasy,and biggist load of bollocks,turn on the T,V and whatch edd balls,and the milliband brothers going round the countrie telling every one what they want to hear now there out of power and dont have to back up there bullshit.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow what rubbish. The next election is going to be fun. The tories and lib dems won't be able to debate against each other as they are both shitting on the throne together at present and will both be responsible for the crap they are brigning this country. labour will be back in power before we know it!
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM after 13 years of labour shitting on the people of britain,trashing our countrie is the reason it is now taking to partys working together to put things right.we have been in the crap for many years labour just managed to keep it well hidden.once the conservatives and the lib dems sort out the mess we are in history may well repeat it self as in the past labour will get back into power totaly fuck everything up again then leave it to others to put it right.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@FabFM God save us all if Labour get the chance to destroy our finances again!
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz The Labour is God's party. God love's unwillingly right? Then he would have supported people having a minimum wage, an NHS and women having the right to vote. All of these were passed by Labour governments and opposed by the tories. Nuff said!
The tories destroy our finances. They give us record unemployment, record home repos and record VAT. The only thing is they cook the books to make things look better, but actually they are worse!
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM The Tories didn't destroy our finances, they haven't been in power for nearly two decades! Yes, Labour did good things (i.e. minimum wage) and we should count them on it, but we should also acknowledge the fact that Labour screwed up our money, brought in tuition fees and took us into an illegal war.
The education problems we face today are the backlash of Labour overspending. People should be protesting against the people who make the mess, not those who have to clean it up!
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz Stop lying. The last time the tories were in power was in 1997. That was 13 years ago, not two decades ago! And yes, tories do destroy our finances and make people worse off, but make it look like they don't by cooking the books. A lower deficit does not mean less poverty, infact it often means more! Also, there is no evidence to support your claim of an illegal war. The war was passed in parliament and every inquiry since has found nothing to suggest it wasn't legal.
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM I said 'nearly two decades'...
The war was illegal, because the UN didn't sanction it.
Overspending causes poverty, over the last 13 years we've had just that. Labour seems to insist that rather than giving people equal opportunities, they must force them to be the same! (Hence, aims to get 50% of people into Uni)
And let's just remember that tuition fees were brought in by Labour only months after they said they were never bring them in.
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz 13 years is 7 years shy of two decades, so nowhere near it, infact it's closer to one!
No one is forced to go to university. Infact no one is forced to continue education after 16. What Labour have done is allow more people to opportunity to do so if they so desire.
Oh, and it's parliamnet that pass laws, not the UN!
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM I'm going to stop talking to you, my head is hurting from all the face-palms.
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz A reply to say you don't want to reply. Speaks volumes about your interlect!
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM Intellect. :)
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz I'd rather make a spelling mistake (like most people do) than post a comment about how I don't want to post comments!
FabFM 1 year ago
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FabFM 1 year ago
@MRaverz I lived in poverty under a conservative government in the 80s, and let me tell you something for nothing, record unemployment and record home losses did nothing to improve it!
FabFM 1 year ago
@MRaverz Labour improved education. They ivested more into schools than the tories ever did, or ever will. The problems we face today are the result of too many tory governments in the past, not Labour.
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM it was about 80,000 lost there homes during the last recession.all familys suffer in any recession lifes tuff.i lost my home my bissiness so what i just picked my self up and started again.the torys have got back into power all though labour used every dirty underhanded trick in the book trying to cling on.the torys can not sell off the nhs because most of the nhs is owned by the private sector labour built the nhs on a lend and lease contract over a 45 year time scale.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@FabFM (33): "I remember the recession under the Tories"
You would have been born around 1977, thus would have been 2yrs old when Thatcher became PM, no more than 5yrs old in 1982, ... what year would you be referring to when you say "million people lost their homes under Thatcher"?
After your answer, we can discuss who exactly those 'million' people were--residents of then-government-owned Council houses, or people who owned their houses even then, or ... .
HKLivingston 1 year ago
@FabFM looks like u were wrong again!
dikkydoo1 1 year ago
@FabFM ALL job loses under Thatcher would have worse under labour, labour set the decline in place.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 What bullshit... typical crap, blame the last government. The oldest excuse in the book. Tories have never been able to step up to the plate and take responsibility, they always pass the buck. They're not fit to run public toliets, let alone a country!
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM Labour blamed the tories for years after the far left caused the problems. The UK never went bankrupt until the labour party of the 70's.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 Yeah and the 1970s was when we saw record population growth.
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM one of the main reasons for the population explosion in the 70,s was because of the amount of time the so called britsih workers spent at home dew to the caous caused buy the trade unions when they were trying to distroy great britain.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@FabFM there is no one else to blame labour have spent the last 13 years in some sort of fantasy land.runing up 200 billion pounds worth of detps.when ever labour get in they all ways do the same leave us bankrupt in this case it is a coillishion goverment that has to step up the plate.tories dont want to clean the toilets they have a bigger shit house to clean up its called britain after 13 years of labour.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow you may think you are humourous, but you ain't. You're a typical tory twat. The tories gave us the highest taxes and biggest ever unemployment and now they are back in power, we are heading in that direction again.
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM its not the taxs you see under the tories ,its the hidden taxs brought in by labour 148 in total that you can not see .under labour we have approx 10 million not working,remember the gap between the rich and poor widdend far greater under new labour than an any other time in our history.labour have reduced us to a countrie resembling some third world banana republic.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow You're living in a dream world. The highest ever unemployment in this country was under the last tory government of 3.5 million. We may have ten million "not working" in the UK today but this figure is not a figure of unemployment alone, which is much less than 3 million, this figure you claim includes people on disability benefits who can not work and retired rich people. The fact you have to warp figures in this way shows you can not be taken seriously, you're full of crap!
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM i live in the real world not the dream world labour invented which helped keep them in power for 13 years and is now proving to be the biggest cause of britains bankruptsy since records began.disability, bennifits,pension credits,exstending the school leaving age,and many other ellabrate titles desined to hide the amount of people not working when labour were in power.just a small part of all the other lies they told us now you just go back to sleep while we sort out there mess.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedaveWANKERshow You do not live in the real world. You are a stupid buffoon. Your nothing but a fool sitting in his chair as the owner of his own business slagging off those below you. You will never sort out any mess, cause all you care is about yourself. It won't be long before labour are back in power, when the British public will soon learn than the ConDem lot are not a soloution, they are a much bigger problem!
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM i left school at 14 could not read or right,brought up on rough council estate full of mainly labour voters, violent drunken father, mother not much better,very little food in the house all ways lots of beer, holes in my shoes,second hand clothes,for many years i had to listen to my father spouting off all that crap about labour and how they were the only party that understood the working man.now 46 years on every labour controlled estate has the same story to tell as myself.WAKE UP.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow CONTINUED the only time i sit in a chair is when i am on utube,average working week 65 hours,over 20 trades i can turn my hand to,the only people i consider below me are liers,bennifit cheats,thieves and the usual trash in our countrie.if i only cared about my self i would not be on utube talking to you, slaging of labour and what they have done to our countrie.i might be a wanker but they are very long strokes and i deside when its time to ejeculate not some one else.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thedavewalkershow lol... While I dissagree with a lot of your opinions, i apoligise for calling you a wanker, it was an obvious gag, but I shouldn't result to childish name calling cause the only person it makes look like a wanker is me.
FabFM 1 year ago
@FabFM apolige excepted.
regards dave,
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
@thatcheritescot over the last 13 years 80% of jobs created in britain have gone to people born out side britain.2 mill asylum seekers costing the tax payer 30 billion a year,1 mill ilegals,2.5mill on the dole 3mill 0n in capacity benifits,at least i million hidden on silly skeems.aproxx 10 million not working under labour.on the bright side blair s estimated earnings over the next ten years is 100,million.and brown retires on a gold plated inflation proof pension for life.
thedavewalkershow 1 year ago
I believe in personal freedom, small government, lower taxes and individual responsibility, all of which have disappeared over the past 12 years of Labour's mismanagement and ineptitude.
That's why I'll always vote Conservative.
88tommyb666 2 years ago 3
by lower taxes I assume you mean lower taxes for the richest? Because that is was the Tories intend.
binstig 2 years ago
@binstig lowering taxes for everyone is a good thing. fact is that if u tax the rich too muxch they move..... dont pretend that thatcher only helped the rich. thats simply not true. health spending was increased. infact all public spending rose over the thatcher years
thatcheritescot 2 years ago
so did taxes and social security.
you will also find that defence was cut.
slimes23 2 years ago
The bastards! How could they let these people keep the money they earned!!!
gregorioallegri 2 years ago
You realise that the tax burden rose under the conservatives?
slimes23 2 years ago
Yes but it soon fell again in the 1988 Budget, and when Nu-Liar-bour came to power it started rising again to a peak in 2006-2007.
88tommyb666 2 years ago 4
It was higher on average under the Tories than under Jim Callaghan. you should be a supporter of 'old labour' on that basis.
slimes23 2 years ago
here here
GeeGee3374 2 years ago 2
through that comes exploitation for many.
joejjohnston 2 years ago
still find it amazing the tories got back in in 1992 with the poll tax & resession a bloody sight worse than this one with intrest rates at 15% & a good 10 years of Thatcher! Would Kinnock have changed anything?
sehort 2 years ago
@sehort i agree with some of what u said..... it is amazing that the torys won in 92.... but that is because the opposition were awfull..... i mean kinnock only had to b better than major.... he wasnt
thatcheritescot 2 years ago
Kinnock the Pillock.
MrTORYTOM 2 years ago
lol. he certainly was. do u think he could hae beaten thatcher in a 4th election.... i thiink not
thatcheritescot 2 years ago
Her party thought otherwise.
slimes23 2 years ago
im welsh but how annoying is neils voice???
longlivejacko 2 years ago 2
nothing wrong with the welsh.... everything wrong will kinnock. lol
thatcheritescot 2 years ago
God, I wish we hd someone as strong as her in power now instead of this useless Labour, Borrowing obsessed rubbish.
mozart579 2 years ago 3
NEVER VOTE FOR A TORY!!!!!!!!!!!
escortmk112 2 years ago
oh they will. in their millions. must make u angry. lol
thatcheritescot 2 years ago
In away it does make me angery. All i can say to anyone voteing tory is VAT SCHOOL MILK POLL TAX MINERS STRIKE ect. As far as todays tory man Cameron i say lier ,he will not give us a referenum and he will hit our pensioners NHS and every working man ,WHY, cos thats what a tory does to line the pokets of big buisness. Lets not forget he will allow the twisted minded toffs to have there play time back by allowing fox hunting again, THAT JUST ABOUT SAYS IT ALL.
escortmk112 2 years ago
> Well regardless of what all these Labour supporters are saying;
We're going to have a Conservative Government with Cameron as PM in less than a year, so you can take your Communist Idea's to Russia or China and try to implement your dead-end policies there..
M. Thatcher saved this country, a Conservative Government saved this country,
And it's going to be another Conservative Government to save us from the crap Labour has put us through for the last ten years !
buddhist2007 2 years ago 3
Can you explain how she saved the country? (Of course you can't.)
slimes23 2 years ago
Revitalised the economy, democratised the Trade Unions, killed inflation, allowed the working classes to buy their own houses, deregulated the economy (and if you believe that caused the crisis then you are a fucking moron), took the difficult decisions that allowed the economy to grow 8 consecutive years and then after the ERM debacle 16 years. It was her labour market reforms that brought unemployment down to virtually zero by the year 2000.
Mickmars90 2 years ago 3
Growth slowed under Thatcher.
slimes23 2 years ago