Best seitei iai i have seen in youtube up to date. Its supposed to be abit stiff, because of the demanded clearness seitei iai requires. The forms of seitei iai is picked out of the numerous of koryo styles that wants to be part of ZNKR. It should not be to personal in style.
These movies are a great teaching tool for learning the basics of iaido and it shows from Oguru-sensei. Nuff said (and theres no way a starter in iaido like me is gunna critique Oguru-sensei, no way). By anyways, Great flow and technique.
God. No, no, no. Seitei was a common ground for the ZNKR organization, not every iaido style out there. It was also meant to teach Iaido basics to kendoka, it wasn't meant as some intro to koryu. Koryu got passed on fine before seitei, it still is, and due to its differences from seitei, it must be introduced on its own. I practice both, and they're kept well separate, as we are told they must. But your "obvious" reasons for seitei don't match with the reality of it.
Give me a break. Setei iai is a common ground for grading withing the ZNKR, not the whole world of iaido. The ZNIR have their Toho. The Jikishinkai do MJER, and so does Iwata sensei's school.
You can bet on the opinion of people in Japan, but I've heard it straight from them. You're wrong. You're a seitei freak. It's just a representative set, it's not all that's iaido.
And yeah, I really have very little consideration for anyone who's not grounding their iaido in the 全日本剣道連盟技. It IS the common ground for grading and testing, and it is almost a prerequisite for any real attempt at decent kouryuu. In my opinion (and I'd bet in the opinion of anyone else practicing iaido in Japan), if you don't know the twelve basic forms you aren't really practicing iaido.
Proton - yes, he could look earlier, though I'm not gonna bitch about that much with an 8th dan. Home-game kids, see if you can spot the incorrect turn in the lot of them. There's only one.
Jeez, Ham, do you cut and paste your responses to people? It's like deja vu, man.
Why do you defend people's glaring lack of attention to imporant details, especially in an art where precision is paramount? Have you read the ZNKR manual? Any deviation from the rules is flat out INCORRECT. Do not defend incorrect.
Be that as it may, but seitei appears to be the only reliable way people will learn real control, Leogan. Far too often, people who practice only koryu have miserable basics and perform kata with no awareness of what they're doing.
As with tsukaate, he has a habit of not looking well in advance to guage the opponent's intentions before he cuts. In this particular waza his timing is too even -- after the first suki and cut, he should transition slightly faster into the second cut. Likewise, he should continue smoothly out of wakigamae into the final cut. I wouldn't rate this his best kata out of the lot in this site. His timing is too evenly paced, almost robotic.
Wow, beautiful! Incredible poise & zanshin.
priori2ude 4 years ago
Best seitei iai i have seen in youtube up to date. Its supposed to be abit stiff, because of the demanded clearness seitei iai requires. The forms of seitei iai is picked out of the numerous of koryo styles that wants to be part of ZNKR. It should not be to personal in style.
zordracc 4 years ago
well done! 5/5
carbonsteelblade 4 years ago
These movies are a great teaching tool for learning the basics of iaido and it shows from Oguru-sensei. Nuff said (and theres no way a starter in iaido like me is gunna critique Oguru-sensei, no way). By anyways, Great flow and technique.
GoreTorn16 5 years ago
It is customary for Iai/Battojutsu exercises to end with the Iaidoka returning to the starting position.
Schwertfechter 5 years ago
actually proton, we koryu peeps do waza, living forms based on real situations unlike kata completely.
id be interested to see what experience you have of both koryu and seitei to have these views.
the guys hachidan right? i cant even spot mistakes in my teachers waza and hes rokudan mjer
rottunpunk 5 years ago
God. No, no, no. Seitei was a common ground for the ZNKR organization, not every iaido style out there. It was also meant to teach Iaido basics to kendoka, it wasn't meant as some intro to koryu. Koryu got passed on fine before seitei, it still is, and due to its differences from seitei, it must be introduced on its own. I practice both, and they're kept well separate, as we are told they must. But your "obvious" reasons for seitei don't match with the reality of it.
splice42 5 years ago
Give me a break. Setei iai is a common ground for grading withing the ZNKR, not the whole world of iaido. The ZNIR have their Toho. The Jikishinkai do MJER, and so does Iwata sensei's school.
You can bet on the opinion of people in Japan, but I've heard it straight from them. You're wrong. You're a seitei freak. It's just a representative set, it's not all that's iaido.
splice42 5 years ago 2
And yeah, I really have very little consideration for anyone who's not grounding their iaido in the 全日本剣道連盟技. It IS the common ground for grading and testing, and it is almost a prerequisite for any real attempt at decent kouryuu. In my opinion (and I'd bet in the opinion of anyone else practicing iaido in Japan), if you don't know the twelve basic forms you aren't really practicing iaido.
yakaji 5 years ago
Proton - yes, he could look earlier, though I'm not gonna bitch about that much with an 8th dan. Home-game kids, see if you can spot the incorrect turn in the lot of them. There's only one.
yakaji 5 years ago
Jeez, Ham, do you cut and paste your responses to people? It's like deja vu, man.
Why do you defend people's glaring lack of attention to imporant details, especially in an art where precision is paramount? Have you read the ZNKR manual? Any deviation from the rules is flat out INCORRECT. Do not defend incorrect.
Proton1 5 years ago
Be that as it may, but seitei appears to be the only reliable way people will learn real control, Leogan. Far too often, people who practice only koryu have miserable basics and perform kata with no awareness of what they're doing.
Proton1 6 years ago
As with tsukaate, he has a habit of not looking well in advance to guage the opponent's intentions before he cuts. In this particular waza his timing is too even -- after the first suki and cut, he should transition slightly faster into the second cut. Likewise, he should continue smoothly out of wakigamae into the final cut. I wouldn't rate this his best kata out of the lot in this site. His timing is too evenly paced, almost robotic.
Proton1 6 years ago
He also corrects his technique mid-waza. Observe his jodan no kamae. This is an opening!
Proton1 6 years ago