The Mexica and Anahuac movements do not advocate a violent revolution, which is fine. But where is the cultural revolution? For one, indigenous Anahuacs should use their original language as much as they can instead of the imperialistic languages of english and spanish. This also means not using the goddamn latin script and instead to use a script native to Anahuac, such as the writing systems used by the mesoamericans (ie Mayan script). Or create a new one based on Anahuac culture.
solidarity from a Mayan Yucatec who will never know the true extent of his history because of the destruction of all my people's literature by the Spanish
nobody will be safe in this world until someone recognizes himself as responsible of the crime and materially makes justice to the victims. Impossible dream, maybe...
All of my brothers and sisters of Anahuac, know that as long as you have the truth within your hearts, the love of our Nican Tlaca mothers, the self-sacrifice of our Nican Tlaca fathers behind us, our eternal sun above us, the sacred soil of Cemanahuac below us, we can never be silenced. Something like that cannot be askewed, belittled, or phased by the pathetic attempts of these individuals who tell us "we cannot." Know this, and remain united and strong.
However, regular offenders and racists that insult our people are merely the newest generations of Columbus's, Washington's and Cortes's. They know that we are winning this struggle, that our people are outpopulating their own colonial communities and they can due nothing as we are now IMMUNE to their cherished biological weapon- smallpox.
At this point it is wasted energy for us to even address those of the white population who remain ignorant and continue to spout their hatred under these videos which are put here for education and enlightenment of OUR people, not to antagonize their's. To people like CliveKoopa and AmaoNoBolso, who were intelligent and honorable enough to shun the ignorance and evils accepted by the majority of their own peoples, I for one would like to forward my respect for their courage and character.
the curse is in deu 28 15-68! negro latin and indian decent make up the scattered 12 tribes of israel u white people will pay!
rev 18: 5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her
anahuacwarrior, this is the great ometeotl speaking. You whine like a castrated dog. It is time you stopped your whining and did something to regain your birthright.
WE (YES YOU AND I AND ALL OF THE USA) NEED TO OPPRESS THESE DAMN "NATIVE AMERICANS".
Can you imagine these damn "Natives" enjoying freedom and liberty like India, Pakistan, Phillipines, millions of people of the African continent, and NOW...KOSOVO (liberated on 2/17/08 from Serbia)...can you imagine that....THIS IS WRONG!
We need to do everthing possible to oppress these damn Indigenous people!
i m white(but not devil) and ashamed to be a part of this colonisation..i m ashamed of cristophus colombus .i m ashamed of all ignorents white peoples,centuries tourists.i m ashamed of the white men who killed millions of aborginal people and took their land...
i pray for all the indigenous people who succumbed to european colonialism. the time will come when europe will suffer the same fate that it unleashed on the world.
The reality of the pre-1492 Americas is that life was nasty, brutish and short. Some of the highlights were inter-tribal warfare, slave taking, human sacrifice and cannibalism.
White are good, and you love them, just as I love all races and colors. What you should do is get over the way people were in general 500 years ago, compared to today. Change can happen, shift can happen, and it did. Why am I not racist, and I am white, but you are racist? What has the White man done to you?
Like I said they(including education systems) get current news from newspapers or other media like the internet or TV. Books are not updated every day.
Olin should apologize for all the native people that his Aztec ancestors kidnapped, sacrificed, butchered and ate. You have blood on your hands you cannibal!
Actually Russia is still suffering today from the effects of the Golden Horde, it effectivly set them back a couple of hundred years, keeping them out of the enlightenment and renaissance. They have as much right to compensations from Mongolia.
si estoy orgulloso de ser Español,leo sobre la historia y unos hijos de puta actuaron asi,no todos. solo rezumas ODIO y CELOS hacia España,el mayor imperio que ha dado la humanidad!orgulloso de Ser Español!Los Hispanos mostramos al mundo de que eramos capaces de conquistarles a "todos" ,tambien conquistamos Sur de Alemania,Italia,belgica,holanda,luxemburgo,francia,y ningun europeo nos tiene rencor.entonces es que tienes un problema!y si no das solucion al problema eres parte del problema!
the bigest holocaust was in Europe the first and second world war,Stupid! what do you pretend with this video? hate europeans? or what? Im proud to be European.
estas orgulloso de lo que hicieron los espanoles entonces?
simplemente porque una nacion (USA y turkey) niegan un genocidio, no quiere decir que no paso. Armenios y gente indigena de las americas fueron victimas de genocidio.
Who evers in charge will discrimanate and take advantage of their inferiors, its not a question of race but power, all races have at some point committed massive atrocitys (i am not condoning or claiming that any form of discimination is right or good quite the opposite)
The christian Europeans were far worse than Mongolians or any other imperial force. Remember that the Mongols treated every part of their empire as an equal province, where as the racist christian Europeans treated those who they conquered as a subject state; stealing their wealth and making a slave populace. The christian Europeans had no humanistic morals, their religion taught them to discriminate, lie, and steal.
ALL non-white people need to rise up and stop giving in to western standards of wealth, beauty, and happiness. Because christian europe has always been the least enlightened (that is why they could only derive pleasure from greed, war, and colonization). Do you really want to follow a civilization who once thought water and plants are bad for you? A civilization who treats other people like a resource?
***The Truth about "ThanksGiving" *** --HORRENDOUS CRIMES! by white people Gathering, Sharing, Cordiality, "Thanks for the Aid and survival" are pure fabrication and a Facade to cover & hide horrendous crimes since The real Thanksgiving Celebration was about a different event. Check this out: remove space at "com" and paste the rest at the end: lawprofessors.typepad. com/immigration/2006/ week47/index.html scroll down to: A Native Person's Thanksgiving Perspective Speech by Barry WHITE CROW
India is another example of massive exploitation......India has always been one of the richest regions in the world for most of history. Then the British came and stole all their wealth and then claiming that their wealth came from them. Bullshit! The Spanish of course did this to the rich civilizations of the new supercontinent as well.....and let's not forget Africa!
Remember how backward the european christians were during the middle ages.....such low culture, sexuality, and hygiene. All they could do is build gothic architecture to plan the rape of their "holy land (land of the Muslims).....and during these crusades the Muslims civilize Europeans from knowledge from China, India, and their own civilization. Now the muslims are suffering because of it as well......they too are being raped by the West today.
The Native Americans truly got screwed the most by the Europeans.....at least many Africans have control of their country now. White people still rule and occupy the red man's land......Native Americans all over the supercontinent should rise up and stop falling for the contracts of these white christian monkeys. They should stop being wage slaves, pushed on reservations and what not and fight these europeans out of their lands. Because the christian white man only learns from violence.
yeah indians were slaughtered and almost killed but look at the bright side; the indians are still here and you did'nt put any pictures up of indian resistance towards the europeans.Alot of indians killed europeans and alot of them told the europeans to go fuck themselves. That's why the europeans hated indians so bad because indians always stood up for themselves. Remember alot of indians survives and are still here just look at latin america.
I dont dislike ALL other groups, when did I say I dislike every single human being except ixachitlacatl? I dislike most spaniards, not all, but most, but I dont dislike ALL humans. And yes I have been using at least one word in nauatl, ixachitlacatl, which means (indigenous) people, I used it a while ago too, If I where to speak to you in nahuatl you wouldnt understand what I would be saying so whats the point?
listen man, why dont you try reading a freakin book, instead of just calling my information misguided and bullshit. Theres nothing YOU can do about it, this is what is being tought at Universities and colleges in LA, every single one of my history proffesors is teaching this stuff to students, the time has come to reveal the truth of how fucked up this country really is. "Captain America's" such as yourself will soon be outnumbered by the educated ones who attend colleges and universities.
or... on the other hand... I could learn nahuatl and regain my nahuatl culture, instead of committing suicide. I dont mind speaking spanish, its just that spanish was forced on us and its the language of the asshole opressors, SO FUCK SPANISH.
no no, FUCK SPANISH. Not all spaniards are bad people, but the majority are IMO. Spanish IS NOT our native language, its native to europe, not here. I do get along with my people, its not their fault they speak spanish, it was the stupid spaniards that forced it on us. And yes, I think spanish should be replaced with the indigenous languages of this land. If I where to stick to my native language the majority of my people wouldnt understand since the majority speak some european latin dialect.
How am I biased? I mentioned "Canada", Mexico, "USA" central and south "america", thats pretty much all of the "western" hemisphere. In mexico the spaniard controled governement orders their border patrol to kill any central "americans" on site, all the crime and corruption on these countires is a result of european colonialism.
BTW spanish is not our native language, FUCK SPANISH.
"The only good 'indian' is a dead one, in a sense I do believe these people are human, kill the 'indian' in him and save the man"- founder of the first "indian" school. This has been going on the moment europeans arrived on thi side of the planet. Today, "Canada", Mexico, "USA", central and south "america" are killing the identity of people, you obviously cant kill the people, but you can kill the "indian" in them.
In the US, people are being culturaly castrated as we speak. In the 1960's, the nixon administration adopted the label of hispanic, this label would be used to identify the indigenous people of this land who where fucked over by the spanish, up until today this label is STILL used. The reason behind the use of this label is to commit cultural genocide, you cant kill the people, but you can however kill their identity, so its as if the indigenous people dont really exist.
the indigenous people of this land, as well as whites/asians/africans/others, dont know of the reality that is taking place, all they know is what is tought in schools and what they show on TV. However, if they knew of the history that took place and the reality that is taking place wouldnt the future become a better one? You learn from past mistakes so you wont do'em again, thats the point of studying history.
"Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it"
I dont know who said that but it makes sense, and that's what is happening today, how can the present be changed for a better future if history keeps repeating itself?
easy for you to say, since your ancestors were the ones who commited the genocide. How can I change the present to make a better future if people like you exist? people who know very little, people who are ignorant of the racism that took place and is taking place, people who DONT KNOW THEIR HISTORY.
like I said, catch up on your history, then we'll talk. As for now, I suggest you study and read books on the indigenous people of this continent. Carefull what you read though, not all books contain accurate material, usually the ones that contain american/british pilgrim, spaniard, portuguese, french propaganda are very biased and contain inaccurate info. I suggest you visit the mexica movement website and pick from their selection of books, and browse around the website too.
You said:" I suggest you visit the mexica movement website and pick from their selection of books". I assumed that meant you read the books that were on this website. Your name calling just shows that you lost the argument.
wtf? lost the argument? wtf is this, a game show? did I lose the chance to win 100,000$?
I dont give a fuck about this argument, my point is, you have the educational level of a high school freshman, or maybe even a junior high student, either way, youre stupid.
When have I ever exaggerated the truth? you claim to not like history, which shows your inaccurate knowledge about history, and yet youre telling me that Im exaggerating the truth. Trust me, the facts I have stated are a representative of reality as we know it today, the indigenous people of this land have been oppressed the moment europeans arrived.
Accurate? you claim to not like history yet you state your knowledge about history is accurate. I suggest you read books about history in order for you to have some credibility and present accurate information.
Theres your problem right there, you dont know much about history, yet you state that your knowledge is accurate. BTW, if youre a science person you'll love to study mexica and other indigenous cultures, they revolve around astronomy and the earth.
listen, why dont you stop watching TV and read a fucken book once in a while, particularly books relating to the indigenous people of this land, the information you present to me is biased/wrong/truth mixed with lie/inaccurate. Your knowledge of the indigenous people of this land, or nican tlaca/ixachi tlaca, is that of a 10 year old.
ALL humans are violent, doesnt matter what part of the planet youre from. Nazi germany, protestant vs catholic, romans vs greeks, europe boasts its share of violence too, just like any other country. Europeans killed their enemy in battle, while we captured our enemies and then sacrificed them, not much diference, except our sacrifices showed our consciousness of the planet and its balance, if you knew anything about the mexica religion you would of known that and not open your mouth.
For one, the "aztecs" never referred to themselves as aztecs, we referred to ourselves as mexica, which is what the word mexican derives from. Superstition? do you even know the main objective of the mexica religion? do you know ANYTHING about the mexica religion? Sacrifices to appease the gods? no no no, it was more than to just "appease" the gods.
ages ago? the indigenous people of this land were villainized up until the 1950's with films and TV shows which themes were "cowboys vs injuns", the last "indian" school closed in the early 1900's, since 1998 the spaniard controlled mexican government (backed by the US governent) have been killing families in chiapas to exploit the land, the list goes on...
WTF are you talking about? its not like there was a massive blizzard and the majority of people survived were white. WTF does mother nature have to do with genocide, theft, and cultural castration amongst humans?
not necessarily, the descendants are still around today.
No, not all mexicans are mixed, the majority of mexicans are still predominantly indigenous.
See thing is, this is happening in the present, the poverty, the crime, hunger, racism etc on the indigeous people of this land are all result of european colonialism.
Only 13% of Mexicans are still full blooded indegious and the majority are meztisos. A lot of Latin American countries are shittie places because of the corruptionand crime and it has nothign to do with white European colonialism.
If the whites ave really fuk everything up then why are people movin in their lands? Mexico is free to do whatever it wants but why doesn't it fix itself instead?
no no no, if only you where in my shoes and experience what I experience. In mexico, being indigenous, means youre ignorant, uneducated, imoral, illmanered ... etc This mentality was brought by the spanish, so in mexico why would you consider yourself indigenous? Even if you are predominantly indigenous, but have adopted christianity or dont speak a native language you are still considered mestizo.
And mexico isnt "mexico" either. What I mean by that is; mexico is just like the US in every way, well, theyre pretty much a puppet controlled by the US... so fuck the mexican government.
Yes "Latin America" has A LOT of curroption and crime, who are the ones commiting the crime? The people in office. And who ae the people in office? The descendants of europeans. And how did they get there? european colonialism.
WTF?!?!?!? since when is this white land? since when are they indigenous to this side of the planet, If a remember correctly white people made europe their home since the enviroment there suits them.
WTF? Who is saying that America is white land and they are indigenous? Whoever is saying that needs to learn their true origins and the true story of how America was born.
delusional? youre telling me that books, professors, school ... etc have made me delusional? right.....
youre like the millionth person that has called me racist, when have I ever demonstrated hate towards another race? do you even know what racist means?
no, its called being educated. How the fuck is that reverse racism? do you even know what reverse racism is? let me give an exmple of reverse racism; A school needs certain amount of students, they have a lot of whites, so what do they do in order to not seem "racist" because of the large amount of whites? They dont admit certain amount of whites but admit a certain amount of blacks. That is called racial quotas, and its an example of reverse racism.
what part of the spanish arent my ancestors dont you understand? FUCK WHAT YOU SEE ON TV AND WHAT THE MAJORITY THINKS. The majority of mexicans ARE NOT mestizo, read books man, get educated, go to fucken school. In mexico being mestizo doesnt neccessarily mean your DNA contains spanish blood, even if you are predominantly native but dont speak a native language or dont follow an indienous religion your still considered "mestizo".
In mexico, the word "indio", which translates to "indian", the label that stupid ass columbus gave us, also means ignorant, stupid, uneducated... etc. This mentality was brought here by the spanish, so why would a culturaly castrated mexican consider himself "indio" if indio also means all those negative things?
"US" native americans and mexicans arent the same people? Are you 100% sure about that? Keep in mind that the borders that exist today didnt exist back then, before the US stole the the north of mexico, all the native "american" groups that lived north of mexico where also considered mexican, today however no one considers mexican because of the borders that divide us.
All the native groups from the south western "US" all the way down to nicaragua, are all under the same category, The Uto-Aztecan category, our language and our culture is all linked, the state of Utah is named after the Uto-Aztecan natives, and the state of missisipi is actually a nahuatl word the means "the place where the fish are born".
So yeah simply because borders exist here that divide us does not mean we are not related. Its like if I went to your house, stole it, set up borders in each room and now your brother, your sister, your parents... etc are now divided and considered "not related".
The US already gave land back to the real US Native Americans. Real US Native Americans are not chicanos. Aztlan is a myth, if anything the aztecs abandon that land a long time ago only to move south.
My own sources tell me that only 10% of Mexicans still remain full blooded natives
U seem to be education. But your educated with lies feed to you by mexican movement propaganda.
Stop beign a pretend indian and be proud of your european ancestry.
man, YOU DONT KNOW SHIT about my people, wtf do you know about ixachitlacatl? I attend numerous events of native "american" people to learn more about my culture. And what do I see there? nahuatl culture, apache culture, navajo, paitute, tarahumara, comanche... etc. The Uto-Aztecan people consist of all the groups from the south western "united states" all the way down to nicaragua. We're linked through culture, language and DNA.
Do you even know what aztlan is? I bet you dont, which is why you consider it a myth.
Sure, and your sources are full of shit. Like I said, in mexico, the majority considers themselves mestizo because of the mentality brought by the spanish, being indigenous means being ignorant, stupid, uneduated... etc. So whatever the sensus says, its inaccurate, because the people are indigenous whether they like it or not, sure some are mixed, but not the majority.
wtf are you talking about? The US relocated the eastern people to the west, look up "Indian Removal Act".
So what professors are teaching at UCLA, USC, UC Berkley... etc is false then why is it that these schools with tremendous amount of credibilty dont consider it false? Im not invlolved in ANY movement at all, however, I am involved in education, I am involved in school textbooks, lectures, educational videos... etc. and I recomend you do the same.
BTW, I visited those forums you recommended me to visit. I dislike websites like those, "brown pride", hispanic/latino" pride, those labels are labels brought by europeans to culturaly castrate us and seperate us from our indigenous roots. Why dont you research on what those labels really mean?
Also, the argument you present is well, not very accurate. It should be more like this:
"Imagine 1,000 blues invade 6,000,000 reds".
think of it like this, if a have a bucket of 60 grams of brown sugar and mix in 1 gram of white sugar, what color is the bucket of sugar gonna be? mosty brown with a very tiny pinch of white.
Listen man, Im sorry I insulted you, youre not a bad person, at first I thought of you as an asshole, but in reality youre just an average human being who only goes by the knowledge that was tought to him in elemantary, junior high, and high school or saw on TV. Please, attend a college or University, now thats where REAL knowledge begins.
Like I said, the majority of mexicans are predominantly indigenous, only some are mixed. I would say that 80-90% of mexicans are predominantly indigenous, and 20-10% are mixed. As for me, I have dark brown hair, red/brown skin, dark brown slanted almost asian eyes (remnants of the asians who crossed through the bering strait), I dont see absolutely no european trait in me, so I guess that makes me predominantly indigenous. Thats also how the majority of mexicans look like.
ok, time to school you. You state that "US" native "americans" are not related to ANY of the groups that live in the land that is now known as mexico. Heres the thing though, the eurocentric borders that exist today and divide us were not present back then. Before we would roam in our own land freely, engaging in war, trading goods, procreating, exchanging ideas, you know, typical human stuff.
In the continent of europe, the same thing was happening, people engagin in war, trading goods ...etc, So they all unified and became all one people, europeans. The same thing here in anahuac, or "north america", we are all one people, whether the creator put us here or crossed the bering strait bridge, we all made this land our home ong before anyone else.
All the civilizations in anahuac are all related one way or another, some more or less than others. The Uto-Aztecan groups consist of Paiute, ute, shoshone, hopi, cahuilla and others in california, the comanche of texas, and the huichol, pima, papago, tarahumara, tepehuan and MEXICA (mesheeka)/nahuas of mexico and "central america".
like I said before, your not a bad person, just misguided. Please educate yourself before you speak. Google or research on everything I have mentioned, attend a college or university, do whatever it takes so you can know the truth and opression my people have been under for 500 years since the moment columbus arrived on the caribean.
And you learned that in what? kindergarden? Columbus was originally to set sail to india, he got here by mistake and thought he was in india, they saw some of the natives and was like, "oh shit indians".
BTW, like I said, WE DONT HAVE OUR LAND. The whole continent of north "america" is our land, but who are the ones who control north "america"? The descendants of the british pilgrims and the fucktard spaniards. So no we dont have control on our land.
yeah we are free to choose and make our decisions, but the europeans left their mark. The land we now know as north "america" and south "america" was home to thousands of different indigenous cultures, now it is home to culturaly castrated people and the descendants of the ones who commited the castration and genocide.
umm... yes it would, its not like we lived very differently than we do today. We lived in cities, but there was hardly any crime and pollution at all. The city of mexico-tenochtitlan was a very populated city, the most populated city in the world back in those days. Read a book once in a while and youll know what Im talking about, im assuming you get your info from your elemantary school days were they tell you columbus discovered "america" and "injuns" lived in teepeees.
support life and technology? oh trust me, we can, its not like only white people can count, use their hands, think etc. BTW, if anyone knows more about supporting life and technology is us, our religions are based around respect and having respect for our mother. Technology? please, we where one of the fist civilizations that had a 365 day calendar and observatories to view the sky, before the europeans.
And no, we dont have land, the indigenous people of "USA" were merely relocated to different parts, the natives of mexico/central "america"/south "america" were forced to convert to christianity/roman catholisism in order to stay in our land.
Ok, for one, stop labeling us "indians", were not indians, indians are from india. Yes we were culturally castrated, why do you think chrisitianity is the dominant religion on this side of the planet? do you think it magicaly came here and boom one day everyone was suddenly christian?
oh yeah and yes I do partially blame WHITE AMERICANS and the arrival of the europeans for the insane amount of crime being commited here on the "americas", dont get me wrong though not all white americans are guilty, I mostly blame the descendants of the spaniards, british pilgrims, portuguese and french settlers that control the government.
the mexicans here that are "illegals" dont commit the crimes here, the majority of people who commit crimes here are the blacks and the mexicans who are natural born "american" citizens. The majority of mexicans who are here "illegaly" are usually working supporting their families
BTW, I partially blame the arrival of the europeans for the lack of caring for the earth those ixachitlacah had in the reservation you visited, since they did culturally castrate us and sent some of us to "indian" schools to "de-indianize" us. The cultures of anahuac and cemanahuac boasted respect for our mother. But even if you where culturally castraded you should still show some respect.
really? then you outta come down here to LA cuz its pretty much the same except theres more crime than anywhere else. I think most cities are like that, what they show you on TV isnt exactly the same when you see it in person, for example the show "The OC", shows how "beautiful" southern california beaches are when in fact theyre some of the most polluted beaches in "USA".
ANAHUACWARRIOR< I am so pleased to see some of you have realized this problem, but when we open our eye's to ur own history as it is told by our own the true real history, it is plane to see asimulation is mother fucker, with this knowledge we must unit all tribes world wide and and lets RIDE! O-ma-teo my Brother< Lola Native Odawa A.I.M
Arent most places in the world like that? I live in Los Angeles and lemme tell you, the air is FUCKEN BAD, as in matter of fact, the whole world is polluted, and its a shame that no one is doing anything of significance to contribute for the better of this planet.
BTW, its a shame that they dont care, just like most people.
actually, the descendants of the british pilgrims, spaniard conquistadores and other european settlers are around today, the people who govern this land are their descendants. Simply because you dont see it on TV doesnt mean is not happening, crimes towards my people are still happening today, read a book once in while.
All our suffering today is results of European colonialism, and the descendents of the original bloodletters commit today, an equal crime of possessing this knowledge, and hiding it from us, as well as not acting upon the injustice by correcting their fathers' mistakes.
i don't normally speak about people like this, but you're pissing us off sneaking here and making demands that you don't deserve! you should be making demands in your own country mexico!
american indians don't want to identify with you, asshole.
for one, the borders that exist today shouldnt even exist. Stupid ass europeans seting up borders and dividing the indigenous people of this whole continent.
And secondly, were not "american indians", indians are from INDIA. Europeans and their stupid ass labels they give us.
that's history. today, mexicans get everything for free in america. you get more entitlements than poor americans do. get the fuck out and go back to mexico where you belong! why aren't you making demands of the mexican government instead of breaking into the u.s. and making demands? because you know the mexican government will throw your ass in jail. even they don't even want your sorry asses.
so what your saying is get out of north and south "america"? your a fucken dumb ass because we made this land our home long before anyone else. FUCK the descendants of the europeans that control "Canada", "USA", Mexico, "central and south america". Im glad apaches used to kill british pilgrims and hang catholic priests because they too (pilgrims and priests) had the same mentality as you did.
BTW, let me ask you something, how come the british pilgrims that came here didnt do the same in england huh? why didnt they revolt in england and overthrow their king, huh? You guys bitch about how the indigenous people of this land migrate throught out our homeland for a better life, yet no one says anything about europeans migrating here instead of making england better.
but the europeans won't turn american into a shithole like the mexicans. we're talking about TODAY. english is a beautiful place today. mexicans turned mexico into a cesspool and now they want to do the same to america! neighbors who live near mexican families tell their horror stories of mexicans:
peeing outdoor, play loud music in quiet neighborhoods, rape their children, bring in drugs, murder, bring in drugs, bring in diseases, close schools, close hospitals, are on public assistance paid for by american tax payers, etc., etc.
You say that like if everyone else doesnt do that. theres bad people in EVERY RACE stupid.
Rape children, bring in drugs, bring in diseases, destroy schools/hospitals (not close but destroy), sounds like stuff that europeans did to native "americans", mexicans, central "americans" and south "americans, so yeah europeans DID FUCK UP the "americas".
no no no no, spaniards turned "new spain" into a shithole, which later gained independence from spain and became mexico. Read a book once in a while dumb ass before you make yourself look stupid. Europeans came here, fucked it up for us, and now "USA" is the least fucked up country on this side of the planet and people want to come here.
tortillas and enchiladas are mexica for sure. I dont know about sombrero's though, I think sombreros came from the indigenous people who worked on crops to protect them from the sun and heat, which where later adopted by the vaquero's (cowboys).
yeah sombreros were of "Mesoamerican" origin, I know this for a fact, they were used throughout what is known today as Mexico and central America. They were used by the farmers in the fields. Some were even larger than the "charro" hats and almost looked like the hats used by farmers in China and southeast asia.
Our art reflects our Pre-Columbian roots, just look at the works of Diego Rivera or even those that make folk art in the rest of "Latin America" We are not racist we are just trying to bring justice to our brothers and sisters throughout these two continents. The genocide didnt stop in the 1500's just look at Guatemala for example. We want for people to open their eyes.
Those who say "But mexicans/Latin Americans" are part European they aren't true natives. Let me tell you something, we are mostly of native blood the little european blood that we have in us is due to the scar of colonialization, from when I was a child we never glorified our european ancestry because we knew why we had it in us, we eat tortillas beans and squash, we burn incense and we honor our ancestors.
Are you sure about that? 95% of the native population died after contact with Europeans and if you do the research, you will see that genocide and advocating genocide was a reality.
it is. and what the hell is your damn point in dening all the things you have done. remember even dogs know when they have done wrong. must have something to do with your incest religion. you deny everything like you were there and know that shyt didnt take place.
Clintville the only reason why SOME Mexicans are part european is because of the raping of women during the encomienda process and before/after. Only 300,000 Spaniards were on Native soil during the conquest compare that to the high numbers of Indigenous people here at that time. It doesnt add up does it? One drop in a pool of red does not change a thing; And yes smallpox was given intentionally; stop denying the atrocities commited towards Natives on this land.
if during its first several decades of existence the fledgling government was obliged to recognize the sovereignty of Indian nations and to respect Indian land titles as a matter of international and domestic law, from the moment of its creation the United States was crafting legal solutions to the "problems caused by the ... fact that the Indians were here when the white man arrived.
in lands that became the United States, conquest was eventually applied in all the Americas,And the period subsequent to first contact is notorious as the "Age of Genocide."AGE OF WHAT GENOCIDE".
h t t p : / / academic .udayton. edu /race / 02 rights / native14 . htm
Most of the deaths were from Natives passing it on to other natives. Most historians don't say there was a NA genocide, so I guess all of them are Holocaust deniers too, huh?
The British did give smallpox infested blankets to Natives, but not as a genocide, it was to end a siege. It is unknown if it was successful, as there was already a pandemic going on, more likely due to infected Natives returning from attacks.
yeah youre, right some do come up with their own conclusions. Europeans came, they brought a genocide and cultural castration, today the majority of the "americas" speak and write latin dialects (english, spanish, portuguese, french, italian), the indigenous people of this land didnt so we didnt really have a voice.
Some priests were ordered by Hernan Cortez to study the way of life of the natives in order to defeat them. Those priests would then write in jouranls the way of life o the natives.
Heres a paragraph I found, its a description duing those times from a priest: As the Indians did not know the remedy of the disease...they died in heaps, like bedbugs. In many places it happened that everyone in a house died and, as it was impossible to bury the great number of dead, they pulled down the houses over them so that their homes become their tombs.
in my opinion, Im not sure wether or not the smallpox outbreak was deliberate or not, but some evidence shows that it was. If I was a spaniard during those times, I would deliberately spread smallpox to win a war. The spaniards wanted to defeat the natives one way or another.
if I was a spaniard during those times, and saw how disease was effecting my enemy, I would use bio warfare. I think that any one who's enemy is dying of disease who they themselves are immune to would use bio warfare. I havent stumbled in a situation were my enemy is greatly effected by a disease Im immune to so I cant tell you weather I would use bio warfare or not. Either I would use it or I wont have the heart to do it.
The day is near my brothers.
braveloveforyou1 7 months ago
SPEAK ON IT BROTHER!!!
W1CK3D91761X3 1 year ago
You know that Hitler's inspiration of exterminating the Jews came from the European and later the US extermination of the native peoples.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
The Mexica and Anahuac movements do not advocate a violent revolution, which is fine. But where is the cultural revolution? For one, indigenous Anahuacs should use their original language as much as they can instead of the imperialistic languages of english and spanish. This also means not using the goddamn latin script and instead to use a script native to Anahuac, such as the writing systems used by the mesoamericans (ie Mayan script). Or create a new one based on Anahuac culture.
silverbackman 3 years ago 12
solidarity from a Mayan Yucatec who will never know the true extent of his history because of the destruction of all my people's literature by the Spanish
chilam8668 3 years ago 5
cant wait for part2
CuauhtemocTlayohuac 3 years ago 2
wow totally inspiring "Native Indigenous" from the North and South America
sorry im from the tribe of the Navajo.
you said it well from your heart.
BlackAgeDarkFire 3 years ago 6
Well said Tonahuac!! Peace and blessings.
sk1n3 3 years ago
nobody will be safe in this world until someone recognizes himself as responsible of the crime and materially makes justice to the victims. Impossible dream, maybe...
Centauro7209 3 years ago 2
don't worry it is very possible if everyone pitches in.
iamthebest91 3 years ago
After all, we shall always ask for the impossible, because asking for the possible is completly absurd.
Centauro7209 3 years ago
All of my brothers and sisters of Anahuac, know that as long as you have the truth within your hearts, the love of our Nican Tlaca mothers, the self-sacrifice of our Nican Tlaca fathers behind us, our eternal sun above us, the sacred soil of Cemanahuac below us, we can never be silenced. Something like that cannot be askewed, belittled, or phased by the pathetic attempts of these individuals who tell us "we cannot." Know this, and remain united and strong.
Tonahuac1989 3 years ago
However, regular offenders and racists that insult our people are merely the newest generations of Columbus's, Washington's and Cortes's. They know that we are winning this struggle, that our people are outpopulating their own colonial communities and they can due nothing as we are now IMMUNE to their cherished biological weapon- smallpox.
Tonahuac1989 3 years ago
have you heard about the "cosmic race" of the philosopher Vasconcelos? What do you think about it?
Centauro7209 3 years ago
At this point it is wasted energy for us to even address those of the white population who remain ignorant and continue to spout their hatred under these videos which are put here for education and enlightenment of OUR people, not to antagonize their's. To people like CliveKoopa and AmaoNoBolso, who were intelligent and honorable enough to shun the ignorance and evils accepted by the majority of their own peoples, I for one would like to forward my respect for their courage and character.
Tonahuac1989 3 years ago
the curse is in deu 28 15-68! negro latin and indian decent make up the scattered 12 tribes of israel u white people will pay!
rev 18: 5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her
jtiger78 4 years ago 2
anahuacwarrior, this is the great ometeotl speaking. You whine like a castrated dog. It is time you stopped your whining and did something to regain your birthright.
ometeotI 4 years ago
Shut up...
...I don't agree with you.
You need to agree with me!
And join me!
WE (YES YOU AND I AND ALL OF THE USA) NEED TO OPPRESS THESE DAMN "NATIVE AMERICANS".
Can you imagine these damn "Natives" enjoying freedom and liberty like India, Pakistan, Phillipines, millions of people of the African continent, and NOW...KOSOVO (liberated on 2/17/08 from Serbia)...can you imagine that....THIS IS WRONG!
We need to do everthing possible to oppress these damn Indigenous people!
Dangerdoom68 4 years ago
i m white(but not devil) and ashamed to be a part of this colonisation..i m ashamed of cristophus colombus .i m ashamed of all ignorents white peoples,centuries tourists.i m ashamed of the white men who killed millions of aborginal people and took their land...
i hope indians will never stop fighting
(i know they wont stop)
AmaoNoBolso 4 years ago 9
i pray for all the indigenous people who succumbed to european colonialism. the time will come when europe will suffer the same fate that it unleashed on the world.
gomon2gimon 4 years ago
great job. love this.
morizla 4 years ago
the white man is the devil!
YoungJ3 4 years ago
The reality of the pre-1492 Americas is that life was nasty, brutish and short. Some of the highlights were inter-tribal warfare, slave taking, human sacrifice and cannibalism.
Anahuac, the myth that never was..
jagfish1964 4 years ago
the white man is a dirty filthy DEVIL!
YoungJ253 4 years ago 3
White are good, and you love them, just as I love all races and colors. What you should do is get over the way people were in general 500 years ago, compared to today. Change can happen, shift can happen, and it did. Why am I not racist, and I am white, but you are racist? What has the White man done to you?
Poofyponcho 4 years ago
your telling me who i love?LOL
YoungJ3rd 4 years ago 2
Yeah I am, hahah. How u like me now? :D
Poofyponcho 4 years ago
LOL you stupid
don't let the pic on my background fool you.
i only have it to show how mexico loves white girls more then their native indian women.
YoungJ3rd 4 years ago
the white man is the devil.
YoungJ3 4 years ago
Was that Ingrid Bergman? She was pretty hot for her time.
NoMasMexicanos 4 years ago
The old name calling tactic again! You lose.
minutemanmom 4 years ago
Like I said they(including education systems) get current news from newspapers or other media like the internet or TV. Books are not updated every day.
minutemanmom 4 years ago
Olin should apologize for all the native people that his Aztec ancestors kidnapped, sacrificed, butchered and ate. You have blood on your hands you cannibal!
TheWatchdog 4 years ago
you should apologize for being a dumbass,
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Wow great comeback.
TheAntiV 4 years ago 2
there's documented cases of whites being savage cannibals stupid.
it's real easy to point your finger isn't it?
YoungJ3 4 years ago
Actually Russia is still suffering today from the effects of the Golden Horde, it effectivly set them back a couple of hundred years, keeping them out of the enlightenment and renaissance. They have as much right to compensations from Mongolia.
KierenMan 4 years ago
si estoy orgulloso de ser Español,leo sobre la historia y unos hijos de puta actuaron asi,no todos. solo rezumas ODIO y CELOS hacia España,el mayor imperio que ha dado la humanidad!orgulloso de Ser Español!Los Hispanos mostramos al mundo de que eramos capaces de conquistarles a "todos" ,tambien conquistamos Sur de Alemania,Italia,belgica,holanda,luxemburgo,francia,y ningun europeo nos tiene rencor.entonces es que tienes un problema!y si no das solucion al problema eres parte del problema!
maicolin 4 years ago
the bigest holocaust was in Europe the first and second world war,Stupid! what do you pretend with this video? hate europeans? or what? Im proud to be European.
maicolin 4 years ago
estas orgulloso de lo que hicieron los espanoles entonces?
simplemente porque una nacion (USA y turkey) niegan un genocidio, no quiere decir que no paso. Armenios y gente indigena de las americas fueron victimas de genocidio.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Who evers in charge will discrimanate and take advantage of their inferiors, its not a question of race but power, all races have at some point committed massive atrocitys (i am not condoning or claiming that any form of discimination is right or good quite the opposite)
tomgibo 4 years ago
This poem is way too great.
Jagguar20 4 years ago
All the western hemisphere needs to rise up against Mongolia for their rapage of Asia and Europe. There crimes have gone unpunished for far too long.
KierenMan 4 years ago
The christian Europeans were far worse than Mongolians or any other imperial force. Remember that the Mongols treated every part of their empire as an equal province, where as the racist christian Europeans treated those who they conquered as a subject state; stealing their wealth and making a slave populace. The christian Europeans had no humanistic morals, their religion taught them to discriminate, lie, and steal.
silverbackman 4 years ago
Very interesting "KierenMan"...the people living in the western hemisphere today are still suffering because of the Mongolians ???
- I don't think so.
Dodsoh 4 years ago
ALL non-white people need to rise up and stop giving in to western standards of wealth, beauty, and happiness. Because christian europe has always been the least enlightened (that is why they could only derive pleasure from greed, war, and colonization). Do you really want to follow a civilization who once thought water and plants are bad for you? A civilization who treats other people like a resource?
silverbackman 4 years ago
Mapanatl 4 years ago
India is another example of massive exploitation......India has always been one of the richest regions in the world for most of history. Then the British came and stole all their wealth and then claiming that their wealth came from them. Bullshit! The Spanish of course did this to the rich civilizations of the new supercontinent as well.....and let's not forget Africa!
silverbackman 4 years ago
Remember how backward the european christians were during the middle ages.....such low culture, sexuality, and hygiene. All they could do is build gothic architecture to plan the rape of their "holy land (land of the Muslims).....and during these crusades the Muslims civilize Europeans from knowledge from China, India, and their own civilization. Now the muslims are suffering because of it as well......they too are being raped by the West today.
silverbackman 4 years ago
The Native Americans truly got screwed the most by the Europeans.....at least many Africans have control of their country now. White people still rule and occupy the red man's land......Native Americans all over the supercontinent should rise up and stop falling for the contracts of these white christian monkeys. They should stop being wage slaves, pushed on reservations and what not and fight these europeans out of their lands. Because the christian white man only learns from violence.
silverbackman 4 years ago
yeah indians were slaughtered and almost killed but look at the bright side; the indians are still here and you did'nt put any pictures up of indian resistance towards the europeans.Alot of indians killed europeans and alot of them told the europeans to go fuck themselves. That's why the europeans hated indians so bad because indians always stood up for themselves. Remember alot of indians survives and are still here just look at latin america.
chuquimarca 4 years ago
Right on!
sipajpe 4 years ago
Muy bueno tu documental. Muy profundo.
Y tu voz gruesa, clara y fuerte, con una muy buena diccion del inglés dejan temblando a quien te escucha.
Te Felicito.
esmeraldita10 4 years ago
I dont dislike ALL other groups, when did I say I dislike every single human being except ixachitlacatl? I dislike most spaniards, not all, but most, but I dont dislike ALL humans. And yes I have been using at least one word in nauatl, ixachitlacatl, which means (indigenous) people, I used it a while ago too, If I where to speak to you in nahuatl you wouldnt understand what I would be saying so whats the point?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Remember Mexicans, It was YOUR ANCESTORS(The Spanish) WHO INVADED YOUR OTHER HALF OF YOUR ANCESTORS(The Mexicas).
The Whites in America had nothing to do with it because they invaded the US Native Americans.
The only people to blame is you since again it was yoru spanish ancestors who invaded the Mexicas.
Budguy68 4 years ago
listen man, why dont you try reading a freakin book, instead of just calling my information misguided and bullshit. Theres nothing YOU can do about it, this is what is being tought at Universities and colleges in LA, every single one of my history proffesors is teaching this stuff to students, the time has come to reveal the truth of how fucked up this country really is. "Captain America's" such as yourself will soon be outnumbered by the educated ones who attend colleges and universities.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
or... on the other hand... I could learn nahuatl and regain my nahuatl culture, instead of committing suicide. I dont mind speaking spanish, its just that spanish was forced on us and its the language of the asshole opressors, SO FUCK SPANISH.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
no no, FUCK SPANISH. Not all spaniards are bad people, but the majority are IMO. Spanish IS NOT our native language, its native to europe, not here. I do get along with my people, its not their fault they speak spanish, it was the stupid spaniards that forced it on us. And yes, I think spanish should be replaced with the indigenous languages of this land. If I where to stick to my native language the majority of my people wouldnt understand since the majority speak some european latin dialect.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
How am I biased? I mentioned "Canada", Mexico, "USA" central and south "america", thats pretty much all of the "western" hemisphere. In mexico the spaniard controled governement orders their border patrol to kill any central "americans" on site, all the crime and corruption on these countires is a result of european colonialism.
BTW spanish is not our native language, FUCK SPANISH.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
"The only good 'indian' is a dead one, in a sense I do believe these people are human, kill the 'indian' in him and save the man"- founder of the first "indian" school. This has been going on the moment europeans arrived on thi side of the planet. Today, "Canada", Mexico, "USA", central and south "america" are killing the identity of people, you obviously cant kill the people, but you can kill the "indian" in them.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
In the US, people are being culturaly castrated as we speak. In the 1960's, the nixon administration adopted the label of hispanic, this label would be used to identify the indigenous people of this land who where fucked over by the spanish, up until today this label is STILL used. The reason behind the use of this label is to commit cultural genocide, you cant kill the people, but you can however kill their identity, so its as if the indigenous people dont really exist.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
trust me, this is happening in "US" as we speak.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
the indigenous people of this land, as well as whites/asians/africans/others, dont know of the reality that is taking place, all they know is what is tought in schools and what they show on TV. However, if they knew of the history that took place and the reality that is taking place wouldnt the future become a better one? You learn from past mistakes so you wont do'em again, thats the point of studying history.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
"Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it"
I dont know who said that but it makes sense, and that's what is happening today, how can the present be changed for a better future if history keeps repeating itself?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
easy for you to say, since your ancestors were the ones who commited the genocide. How can I change the present to make a better future if people like you exist? people who know very little, people who are ignorant of the racism that took place and is taking place, people who DONT KNOW THEIR HISTORY.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
like I said, catch up on your history, then we'll talk. As for now, I suggest you study and read books on the indigenous people of this continent. Carefull what you read though, not all books contain accurate material, usually the ones that contain american/british pilgrim, spaniard, portuguese, french propaganda are very biased and contain inaccurate info. I suggest you visit the mexica movement website and pick from their selection of books, and browse around the website too.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Reading books from a biased website is going to give you a very biased and wrong view of history. The mexica movement is evil.
minutemanmom 4 years ago
Sorry, I didnt read'em from a website. I actually went to a library, something that you obviously havent done in years.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
How would you know if I went to a library or not? This shows how unintelligent you are.
minutemanmom 4 years ago
And how would you know if I read'em from a website?... 'tard.
You can find me in the library at the UCLA campus... if you got the balls.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
You said:" I suggest you visit the mexica movement website and pick from their selection of books". I assumed that meant you read the books that were on this website. Your name calling just shows that you lost the argument.
minutemanmom 4 years ago
... and those books are found in libraries and are sometimes required in college classes.
Your stupidity just shows that you dont know anything about anything... how 'bout them apples? huh?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
I am not stupid. Namecalling again? You lost the argument again.
minutemanmom 4 years ago
wtf? lost the argument? wtf is this, a game show? did I lose the chance to win 100,000$?
I dont give a fuck about this argument, my point is, you have the educational level of a high school freshman, or maybe even a junior high student, either way, youre stupid.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
When have I ever exaggerated the truth? you claim to not like history, which shows your inaccurate knowledge about history, and yet youre telling me that Im exaggerating the truth. Trust me, the facts I have stated are a representative of reality as we know it today, the indigenous people of this land have been oppressed the moment europeans arrived.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Accurate? you claim to not like history yet you state your knowledge about history is accurate. I suggest you read books about history in order for you to have some credibility and present accurate information.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
"As for history, I dont like it much".
Theres your problem right there, you dont know much about history, yet you state that your knowledge is accurate. BTW, if youre a science person you'll love to study mexica and other indigenous cultures, they revolve around astronomy and the earth.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
listen, why dont you stop watching TV and read a fucken book once in a while, particularly books relating to the indigenous people of this land, the information you present to me is biased/wrong/truth mixed with lie/inaccurate. Your knowledge of the indigenous people of this land, or nican tlaca/ixachi tlaca, is that of a 10 year old.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
ALL humans are violent, doesnt matter what part of the planet youre from. Nazi germany, protestant vs catholic, romans vs greeks, europe boasts its share of violence too, just like any other country. Europeans killed their enemy in battle, while we captured our enemies and then sacrificed them, not much diference, except our sacrifices showed our consciousness of the planet and its balance, if you knew anything about the mexica religion you would of known that and not open your mouth.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
For one, the "aztecs" never referred to themselves as aztecs, we referred to ourselves as mexica, which is what the word mexican derives from. Superstition? do you even know the main objective of the mexica religion? do you know ANYTHING about the mexica religion? Sacrifices to appease the gods? no no no, it was more than to just "appease" the gods.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
ages ago? the indigenous people of this land were villainized up until the 1950's with films and TV shows which themes were "cowboys vs injuns", the last "indian" school closed in the early 1900's, since 1998 the spaniard controlled mexican government (backed by the US governent) have been killing families in chiapas to exploit the land, the list goes on...
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
WTF are you talking about? its not like there was a massive blizzard and the majority of people survived were white. WTF does mother nature have to do with genocide, theft, and cultural castration amongst humans?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Its all in the past. Everyone who was involve is now dead.
Furthermore if your Mexican you have European blood in you.
Let go of the past. Every race of people have been under enslavement under one form or another.
Budguy68 4 years ago
not necessarily, the descendants are still around today.
No, not all mexicans are mixed, the majority of mexicans are still predominantly indigenous.
See thing is, this is happening in the present, the poverty, the crime, hunger, racism etc on the indigeous people of this land are all result of european colonialism.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Only 13% of Mexicans are still full blooded indegious and the majority are meztisos. A lot of Latin American countries are shittie places because of the corruptionand crime and it has nothign to do with white European colonialism.
If the whites ave really fuk everything up then why are people movin in their lands? Mexico is free to do whatever it wants but why doesn't it fix itself instead?
Your delusional and racist.
Budguy68 4 years ago
no no no, if only you where in my shoes and experience what I experience. In mexico, being indigenous, means youre ignorant, uneducated, imoral, illmanered ... etc This mentality was brought by the spanish, so in mexico why would you consider yourself indigenous? Even if you are predominantly indigenous, but have adopted christianity or dont speak a native language you are still considered mestizo.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
The United States isn't Mexico.
minutemanmom 4 years ago
And mexico isnt "mexico" either. What I mean by that is; mexico is just like the US in every way, well, theyre pretty much a puppet controlled by the US... so fuck the mexican government.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Yes "Latin America" has A LOT of curroption and crime, who are the ones commiting the crime? The people in office. And who ae the people in office? The descendants of europeans. And how did they get there? european colonialism.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
WTF?!?!?!? since when is this white land? since when are they indigenous to this side of the planet, If a remember correctly white people made europe their home since the enviroment there suits them.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
WTF? Who is saying that America is white land and they are indigenous? Whoever is saying that needs to learn their true origins and the true story of how America was born.
CliveKoopa 4 years ago
delusional? youre telling me that books, professors, school ... etc have made me delusional? right.....
youre like the millionth person that has called me racist, when have I ever demonstrated hate towards another race? do you even know what racist means?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Its called reverse racism.
To say that your race is oppressed is reverse racism.
Also remember, part of your ancestors, the Spanish, were the ones who invaded your other half of your ancestors.
The whites in Ameirca invade the US native Americans.
US Native Americans and Chicanos are not the same people.
Budguy68 4 years ago
no, its called being educated. How the fuck is that reverse racism? do you even know what reverse racism is? let me give an exmple of reverse racism; A school needs certain amount of students, they have a lot of whites, so what do they do in order to not seem "racist" because of the large amount of whites? They dont admit certain amount of whites but admit a certain amount of blacks. That is called racial quotas, and its an example of reverse racism.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
what part of the spanish arent my ancestors dont you understand? FUCK WHAT YOU SEE ON TV AND WHAT THE MAJORITY THINKS. The majority of mexicans ARE NOT mestizo, read books man, get educated, go to fucken school. In mexico being mestizo doesnt neccessarily mean your DNA contains spanish blood, even if you are predominantly native but dont speak a native language or dont follow an indienous religion your still considered "mestizo".
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
In mexico, the word "indio", which translates to "indian", the label that stupid ass columbus gave us, also means ignorant, stupid, uneducated... etc. This mentality was brought here by the spanish, so why would a culturaly castrated mexican consider himself "indio" if indio also means all those negative things?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
"US" native americans and mexicans arent the same people? Are you 100% sure about that? Keep in mind that the borders that exist today didnt exist back then, before the US stole the the north of mexico, all the native "american" groups that lived north of mexico where also considered mexican, today however no one considers mexican because of the borders that divide us.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
All the native groups from the south western "US" all the way down to nicaragua, are all under the same category, The Uto-Aztecan category, our language and our culture is all linked, the state of Utah is named after the Uto-Aztecan natives, and the state of missisipi is actually a nahuatl word the means "the place where the fish are born".
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
So yeah simply because borders exist here that divide us does not mean we are not related. Its like if I went to your house, stole it, set up borders in each room and now your brother, your sister, your parents... etc are now divided and considered "not related".
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
The US already gave land back to the real US Native Americans. Real US Native Americans are not chicanos. Aztlan is a myth, if anything the aztecs abandon that land a long time ago only to move south.
My own sources tell me that only 10% of Mexicans still remain full blooded natives
U seem to be education. But your educated with lies feed to you by mexican movement propaganda.
Stop beign a pretend indian and be proud of your european ancestry.
Budguy68 4 years ago
man, YOU DONT KNOW SHIT about my people, wtf do you know about ixachitlacatl? I attend numerous events of native "american" people to learn more about my culture. And what do I see there? nahuatl culture, apache culture, navajo, paitute, tarahumara, comanche... etc. The Uto-Aztecan people consist of all the groups from the south western "united states" all the way down to nicaragua. We're linked through culture, language and DNA.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Do you even know what aztlan is? I bet you dont, which is why you consider it a myth.
Sure, and your sources are full of shit. Like I said, in mexico, the majority considers themselves mestizo because of the mentality brought by the spanish, being indigenous means being ignorant, stupid, uneduated... etc. So whatever the sensus says, its inaccurate, because the people are indigenous whether they like it or not, sure some are mixed, but not the majority.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
wtf are you talking about? The US relocated the eastern people to the west, look up "Indian Removal Act".
So what professors are teaching at UCLA, USC, UC Berkley... etc is false then why is it that these schools with tremendous amount of credibilty dont consider it false? Im not invlolved in ANY movement at all, however, I am involved in education, I am involved in school textbooks, lectures, educational videos... etc. and I recomend you do the same.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
why would I be pretending to be indian? hinduism doesnt really call for my attention anyways. And why would I be proud of ancestry I dont have?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
BTW, I visited those forums you recommended me to visit. I dislike websites like those, "brown pride", hispanic/latino" pride, those labels are labels brought by europeans to culturaly castrate us and seperate us from our indigenous roots. Why dont you research on what those labels really mean?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Also, the argument you present is well, not very accurate. It should be more like this:
"Imagine 1,000 blues invade 6,000,000 reds".
think of it like this, if a have a bucket of 60 grams of brown sugar and mix in 1 gram of white sugar, what color is the bucket of sugar gonna be? mosty brown with a very tiny pinch of white.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Listen man, Im sorry I insulted you, youre not a bad person, at first I thought of you as an asshole, but in reality youre just an average human being who only goes by the knowledge that was tought to him in elemantary, junior high, and high school or saw on TV. Please, attend a college or University, now thats where REAL knowledge begins.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Like I said, the majority of mexicans are predominantly indigenous, only some are mixed. I would say that 80-90% of mexicans are predominantly indigenous, and 20-10% are mixed. As for me, I have dark brown hair, red/brown skin, dark brown slanted almost asian eyes (remnants of the asians who crossed through the bering strait), I dont see absolutely no european trait in me, so I guess that makes me predominantly indigenous. Thats also how the majority of mexicans look like.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
ok, time to school you. You state that "US" native "americans" are not related to ANY of the groups that live in the land that is now known as mexico. Heres the thing though, the eurocentric borders that exist today and divide us were not present back then. Before we would roam in our own land freely, engaging in war, trading goods, procreating, exchanging ideas, you know, typical human stuff.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
In the continent of europe, the same thing was happening, people engagin in war, trading goods ...etc, So they all unified and became all one people, europeans. The same thing here in anahuac, or "north america", we are all one people, whether the creator put us here or crossed the bering strait bridge, we all made this land our home ong before anyone else.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
All the civilizations in anahuac are all related one way or another, some more or less than others. The Uto-Aztecan groups consist of Paiute, ute, shoshone, hopi, cahuilla and others in california, the comanche of texas, and the huichol, pima, papago, tarahumara, tepehuan and MEXICA (mesheeka)/nahuas of mexico and "central america".
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
like I said before, your not a bad person, just misguided. Please educate yourself before you speak. Google or research on everything I have mentioned, attend a college or university, do whatever it takes so you can know the truth and opression my people have been under for 500 years since the moment columbus arrived on the caribean.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
And you learned that in what? kindergarden? Columbus was originally to set sail to india, he got here by mistake and thought he was in india, they saw some of the natives and was like, "oh shit indians".
We're not indians, we're not from india.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
BTW, like I said, WE DONT HAVE OUR LAND. The whole continent of north "america" is our land, but who are the ones who control north "america"? The descendants of the british pilgrims and the fucktard spaniards. So no we dont have control on our land.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
yeah we are free to choose and make our decisions, but the europeans left their mark. The land we now know as north "america" and south "america" was home to thousands of different indigenous cultures, now it is home to culturaly castrated people and the descendants of the ones who commited the castration and genocide.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
umm... yes it would, its not like we lived very differently than we do today. We lived in cities, but there was hardly any crime and pollution at all. The city of mexico-tenochtitlan was a very populated city, the most populated city in the world back in those days. Read a book once in a while and youll know what Im talking about, im assuming you get your info from your elemantary school days were they tell you columbus discovered "america" and "injuns" lived in teepeees.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
support life and technology? oh trust me, we can, its not like only white people can count, use their hands, think etc. BTW, if anyone knows more about supporting life and technology is us, our religions are based around respect and having respect for our mother. Technology? please, we where one of the fist civilizations that had a 365 day calendar and observatories to view the sky, before the europeans.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
And no, we dont have land, the indigenous people of "USA" were merely relocated to different parts, the natives of mexico/central "america"/south "america" were forced to convert to christianity/roman catholisism in order to stay in our land.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Ok, for one, stop labeling us "indians", were not indians, indians are from india. Yes we were culturally castrated, why do you think chrisitianity is the dominant religion on this side of the planet? do you think it magicaly came here and boom one day everyone was suddenly christian?
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
oh yeah and yes I do partially blame WHITE AMERICANS and the arrival of the europeans for the insane amount of crime being commited here on the "americas", dont get me wrong though not all white americans are guilty, I mostly blame the descendants of the spaniards, british pilgrims, portuguese and french settlers that control the government.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
the mexicans here that are "illegals" dont commit the crimes here, the majority of people who commit crimes here are the blacks and the mexicans who are natural born "american" citizens. The majority of mexicans who are here "illegaly" are usually working supporting their families
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
BTW, I partially blame the arrival of the europeans for the lack of caring for the earth those ixachitlacah had in the reservation you visited, since they did culturally castrate us and sent some of us to "indian" schools to "de-indianize" us. The cultures of anahuac and cemanahuac boasted respect for our mother. But even if you where culturally castraded you should still show some respect.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
really? then you outta come down here to LA cuz its pretty much the same except theres more crime than anywhere else. I think most cities are like that, what they show you on TV isnt exactly the same when you see it in person, for example the show "The OC", shows how "beautiful" southern california beaches are when in fact theyre some of the most polluted beaches in "USA".
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
ANAHUACWARRIOR< I am so pleased to see some of you have realized this problem, but when we open our eye's to ur own history as it is told by our own the true real history, it is plane to see asimulation is mother fucker, with this knowledge we must unit all tribes world wide and and lets RIDE! O-ma-teo my Brother< Lola Native Odawa A.I.M
tglola 4 years ago
Arent most places in the world like that? I live in Los Angeles and lemme tell you, the air is FUCKEN BAD, as in matter of fact, the whole world is polluted, and its a shame that no one is doing anything of significance to contribute for the better of this planet.
BTW, its a shame that they dont care, just like most people.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
actually, the descendants of the british pilgrims, spaniard conquistadores and other european settlers are around today, the people who govern this land are their descendants. Simply because you dont see it on TV doesnt mean is not happening, crimes towards my people are still happening today, read a book once in while.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
very nice.
anahuacwarrior 4 years ago
Crimes happening today are usually reported in the newspapers or other media like the internet or TV not a book.
minutemanmom 4 years ago
All our suffering today is results of European colonialism, and the descendents of the original bloodletters commit today, an equal crime of possessing this knowledge, and hiding it from us, as well as not acting upon the injustice by correcting their fathers' mistakes.
Tonahuac1989 4 years ago
i don't normally speak about people like this, but you're pissing us off sneaking here and making demands that you don't deserve! you should be making demands in your own country mexico!
american indians don't want to identify with you, asshole.
YuckFou2007 4 years ago
for one, the borders that exist today shouldnt even exist. Stupid ass europeans seting up borders and dividing the indigenous people of this whole continent.
And secondly, were not "american indians", indians are from INDIA. Europeans and their stupid ass labels they give us.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
that's history. today, mexicans get everything for free in america. you get more entitlements than poor americans do. get the fuck out and go back to mexico where you belong! why aren't you making demands of the mexican government instead of breaking into the u.s. and making demands? because you know the mexican government will throw your ass in jail. even they don't even want your sorry asses.
YuckFou2007 4 years ago
so what your saying is get out of north and south "america"? your a fucken dumb ass because we made this land our home long before anyone else. FUCK the descendants of the europeans that control "Canada", "USA", Mexico, "central and south america". Im glad apaches used to kill british pilgrims and hang catholic priests because they too (pilgrims and priests) had the same mentality as you did.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
BTW, let me ask you something, how come the british pilgrims that came here didnt do the same in england huh? why didnt they revolt in england and overthrow their king, huh? You guys bitch about how the indigenous people of this land migrate throught out our homeland for a better life, yet no one says anything about europeans migrating here instead of making england better.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
but the europeans won't turn american into a shithole like the mexicans. we're talking about TODAY. english is a beautiful place today. mexicans turned mexico into a cesspool and now they want to do the same to america! neighbors who live near mexican families tell their horror stories of mexicans:
YuckFou2007 4 years ago
peeing outdoor, play loud music in quiet neighborhoods, rape their children, bring in drugs, murder, bring in drugs, bring in diseases, close schools, close hospitals, are on public assistance paid for by american tax payers, etc., etc.
YuckFou2007 4 years ago
You say that like if everyone else doesnt do that. theres bad people in EVERY RACE stupid.
Rape children, bring in drugs, bring in diseases, destroy schools/hospitals (not close but destroy), sounds like stuff that europeans did to native "americans", mexicans, central "americans" and south "americans, so yeah europeans DID FUCK UP the "americas".
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
no no no no, spaniards turned "new spain" into a shithole, which later gained independence from spain and became mexico. Read a book once in a while dumb ass before you make yourself look stupid. Europeans came here, fucked it up for us, and now "USA" is the least fucked up country on this side of the planet and people want to come here.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Are sombrero hats, tortillas and enchiladas created by Mexicas or by European ancestors? Just wondered...
CliveKoopa 4 years ago
tortillas and enchiladas are mexica for sure. I dont know about sombrero's though, I think sombreros came from the indigenous people who worked on crops to protect them from the sun and heat, which where later adopted by the vaquero's (cowboys).
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
yeah sombreros were of "Mesoamerican" origin, I know this for a fact, they were used throughout what is known today as Mexico and central America. They were used by the farmers in the fields. Some were even larger than the "charro" hats and almost looked like the hats used by farmers in China and southeast asia.
Talciguin 4 years ago
Our art reflects our Pre-Columbian roots, just look at the works of Diego Rivera or even those that make folk art in the rest of "Latin America" We are not racist we are just trying to bring justice to our brothers and sisters throughout these two continents. The genocide didnt stop in the 1500's just look at Guatemala for example. We want for people to open their eyes.
Mazahual 4 years ago
Those who say "But mexicans/Latin Americans" are part European they aren't true natives. Let me tell you something, we are mostly of native blood the little european blood that we have in us is due to the scar of colonialization, from when I was a child we never glorified our european ancestry because we knew why we had it in us, we eat tortillas beans and squash, we burn incense and we honor our ancestors.
Mazahual 4 years ago
Nice Poem Olin, I heard this poem on your Whitewater lecture on the Mexica Movement website.
CliveKoopa 4 years ago
i meant 30,000******
anyway, beautiful words brother. spread the knowledge.
HonestyIsKey 4 years ago
It isn't knowledge, it wasn't a genocide!
Clintville 4 years ago
Are you sure about that? 95% of the native population died after contact with Europeans and if you do the research, you will see that genocide and advocating genocide was a reality.
CliveKoopa 4 years ago
The diseases came from Europeans, but they did not intentionally spread it, not the greater majority.
Clintville 4 years ago
it is. and what the hell is your damn point in dening all the things you have done. remember even dogs know when they have done wrong. must have something to do with your incest religion. you deny everything like you were there and know that shyt didnt take place.
mereoner 4 years ago
.... O_o' WTF are you talking about? denying what? I think you responded to the wrong comment man.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
yeah all those comments were supposed to be for that idiot clintville
SQuentinQuale 4 years ago
Clintville the only reason why SOME Mexicans are part european is because of the raping of women during the encomienda process and before/after. Only 300,000 Spaniards were on Native soil during the conquest compare that to the high numbers of Indigenous people here at that time. It doesnt add up does it? One drop in a pool of red does not change a thing; And yes smallpox was given intentionally; stop denying the atrocities commited towards Natives on this land.
HonestyIsKey 4 years ago
if during its first several decades of existence the fledgling government was obliged to recognize the sovereignty of Indian nations and to respect Indian land titles as a matter of international and domestic law, from the moment of its creation the United States was crafting legal solutions to the "problems caused by the ... fact that the Indians were here when the white man arrived.
traveiso69 4 years ago
in lands that became the United States, conquest was eventually applied in all the Americas,And the period subsequent to first contact is notorious as the "Age of Genocide."AGE OF WHAT GENOCIDE".
h t t p : / / academic .udayton. edu /race / 02 rights / native14 . htm
traveiso69 4 years ago
Most of the deaths were from Natives passing it on to other natives. Most historians don't say there was a NA genocide, so I guess all of them are Holocaust deniers too, huh?
The British did give smallpox infested blankets to Natives, but not as a genocide, it was to end a siege. It is unknown if it was successful, as there was already a pandemic going on, more likely due to infected Natives returning from attacks.
Clintville 4 years ago
it all depends on what the historains were tought/teach. Some teach/were tought the BS side of history and others dont.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Yeah, nice try. I'm pretty sure most of them come up with there own conclusions.
Clintville 4 years ago
yeah youre, right some do come up with their own conclusions. Europeans came, they brought a genocide and cultural castration, today the majority of the "americas" speak and write latin dialects (english, spanish, portuguese, french, italian), the indigenous people of this land didnt so we didnt really have a voice.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
an since we didnt have a voice and the europeans did they were the ones who wrote hitory, the history which is what is being taught today in schools.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Is there any evidence of a deliberate Smallpox attack by the United States, or Spain?
Clintville 4 years ago
Some priests were ordered by Hernan Cortez to study the way of life of the natives in order to defeat them. Those priests would then write in jouranls the way of life o the natives.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Heres a paragraph I found, its a description duing those times from a priest: As the Indians did not know the remedy of the disease...they died in heaps, like bedbugs. In many places it happened that everyone in a house died and, as it was impossible to bury the great number of dead, they pulled down the houses over them so that their homes become their tombs.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
But that doesn't prove deliberate infection.
Clintville 4 years ago
in my opinion, Im not sure wether or not the smallpox outbreak was deliberate or not, but some evidence shows that it was. If I was a spaniard during those times, I would deliberately spread smallpox to win a war. The spaniards wanted to defeat the natives one way or another.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago
Wait, so you would use bio warfare in a conflict? How does that make you any better.
Clintville 4 years ago
if I was a spaniard during those times, and saw how disease was effecting my enemy, I would use bio warfare. I think that any one who's enemy is dying of disease who they themselves are immune to would use bio warfare. I havent stumbled in a situation were my enemy is greatly effected by a disease Im immune to so I cant tell you weather I would use bio warfare or not. Either I would use it or I wont have the heart to do it.
LaSantaMuerte 4 years ago