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  • This is phenomenal...

    Kudos to the pilot !

  • @Emiel1111 dead man's curve, I know. I fly OH-58D's

  • Magnifique autorotation sur cet EC120 et très beau kiss après un Flair parfaitement exécuté.

    Champion l'artiste.

  • perfect...

  • Good lord, I'd shit me pants if I was flying a helicopter, engine OFF, seeing the ground come up that fast. THAT'S BALLS.

  • @willabeast7 Oof, I wish I was stuck in a 22 - I'm stuck just hoping one day I somehow manage to get enough money for a CPL!

  • @willabeast7 Indeed something to aspire too, and i find myself stuck in a 22... and on you tube.

  • Awesome auto! I love doing these on my RC Heli's... Maybe someday a fullscale? :)

  • EC-120 is co-developed by China, France and Singapore in the mid-90s.

  • So THATS what it is.

    No wonder i fail on fight sims all the time.

  • textbook auto.. well done you...

  • Great full down. Super job. I wish mine were that smooth in the little robbie 22.

    Our school closed down and left us all hanging high and dry.

    Some day we'll get back in the cockpit and try it again.

    Thank you Jerry Ariola !!!!!!

  • Perfect landing. I would have absolute confidence in this pilot after watching this

  • @Wendigo127 dont confuse your terms. Droop is associated with power droop. You ask the engine for to much to fast it can not keep up. Ask any real pilot, airspeed is safety even in rotary wing. You can always bleed it off but it will.never come back.

  • @mjm9536 You are right about the droop. About the airspeed though.... It is more a combination of airspeed and/or height. Zero airspeed at height, and you can still do an autorotation. But there is a Height Velocity Diagram for helicopters, and a shaded "avoid" area where you may not be able to perform a safe autorotation to the ground. So, as long as you have the height, it could come back. Either way, nice demonstration of an auorotation in this video.

  • @Wendigo127 for autos in a

    206B min rate of descent airspeed 52, max glide 69. Anything below 52 is considered unsafe and dangerous. I have flown 206Bs as well.

  • And I would rather fall 15-20 feet if the rotor droops than slam into the trees at 70-80 knots. Most modern aircraft have stroking seats and landing gear or the skids are built to absorb energy.

  • OMG , the taill was so close all the way before he touch the ground, what a pro !

    Tx for sharing ,spectacular

  • Bravo !

  • Beatiful landing, compliments to the pilot

  • Wow, I do these with my RC choppers (albeit inverted) but that was so smooth and in the real deal. Nice work!

  • Do pilots have an awareness of the rear end to avoid a tailstrike?

  • boy that 120 is really slick lookin!

  • So nice

  • Woah nice...

  • @willabeast7 True that was an absolutely gorgeous auto.

  • That was one sweet auto.

  • I would rip the tail right off that thing xD

  • Great video guys! Its nice to see a great auto from both perspectives,(inside & outside the cockpit). It will help visualize what we should be looking for.

  • Did anyone else think Chop Suey with the first few drum beats...?

  • Well done !!!!!

  • Now you know what it's like landing a" Real aircraft".

    Ie . Fixed wing... lol Nice job!

  • Very nice auto!!!

  • @willabeast7 Thanks for the compliments!

  • autorotation = falling with style

  • Excellent video!

  • Is autorotation possible if the engine fails in hover flight?

  • @shashair There is a thing known as the dead man's curve, which is a correlation between speed and altitude. I wont pretend to know any figures, I believe they vary depending on aircraft anyway, but what this curve basically shows is that under a certain speed you dont have enough speed to fly, and under a certain height you dont have the height to get the speed. Search the dead mans curve in google. Basically, if you were hovering high enough then you could.

  • @thatman64

    @pgden2

    Thanks for your replies. 

  • @shashair what thatman64 has said is true, velocity height diagrams exist for choppers. Areas on the vh diag show areas where you should avoid. ie low airspeed at low height. however choppers also have noted hover height where inertia in rotor makes it possible for safe landing for both man and machin. areas on the vh diag not always avoidable. parts of approach steep approaches towering t/o etc. Aim to fly out of avoid areas when possible, more chance of saving man and machine if engine quits

  • @shashair Yes, absolutely. It is called a "hover auto". To be completely fair it really is not an autorotation (technically) at all because airflow does not really change direction as it does in a real auto.

    In a hover auto, you really just correct for the loss of main rotor torque and wait till you are 12-24 inches off the ground. Then, pull full pitch on the main rotor blades getting a quick burst of lift to stop/slow your descent. If you time it right you just settle on the ground.

  • whee im gettin one of those! xDxD

  • years ago in my first heli ride i had my good friend perform an autorotation in an r44. it was pretty awesome. i fly planes but i would def fly helis if they weren't more expensive to fly

  • That's one kickass landing!

  • Basic physics are amazing.

  • Does this work on all helicopters???

  • @hattrickster33 Yes it does!

  • @birddog36 Sweet so I won't have to die a(probably) slow painful death

  • @birddog36 no it doesn't. By all if you're even assuming all real helicotpers than no! because not all helis have collective pitch but rather just controll speed. Negative pitch is required in autoroatations

  • @hattrickster33

    It has too if the helicopter is to receive a Type Certificate. check Wikipedia for Autorotation (Helicopter)

  • @Wired4Fun I see. Wikipedia has proven to be less than reliable on numerous occasions but this doesn't seem like one of them.

  • @hattrickster33 even Rc helicopters can do this :) get a .50 and test your skills :)

  • not so good, he is increasing it's flare close from the ground. He must do the opposite : big amplitude flare at the beginning and decrease close from the ground or the tail will touch ...

    But it's not so easy to do !

  • text book perfect. Thanks for sharing

  • Wow you do learn something new every day don`t you? I had no idea helicopters could do such things. It would make me feel much safer if I ever need to ride in one.

  • that was beautifull !

  • nice flying mate

  • thats awesome i cant wait to fly a real one

  • How do you not crap yourself in fear when pulling something like this off? From the cockpit view the descent looks even faster than from the outside.

  • It's easy not to "crap yourself" when doing this in training, with a nice place to set down, and power available if you need it. However, if you had to do this for real, unexpectedly, over a forest or city, or at night, that would be a different story.

  • Yup, very nice .. I hope my auto rotations look as nice as this soon :p

  • I love practicing this in the simulator !

    As close as I will get to piloting a Helo, unfortunately

  • Yup ends up costing around £20k to get a license =(

  • when the helo is falling the shape of the blades cause the air to go past slower on the back of the blades than on the front. this cause a negative area of pressure in front of the blades and causes each blade to want to move forward wich causes the roator head to spin. the blades are not at negative pitch, they are only flat. negative pitch does not ever happen on any helicopter. and yes i am a pilot for all you assholes who are gonna ask.

  • Are you out of you mind??? Of course you use negative pitch in helicopters... Indeed used in autorotations for keeping up the RPMs.

  • The only helicopter that has negative pitch in the blades in a Lynx Military Helicopter in the UK. Other than the Lynx helicopters don't have negative pitch in the main rotor.

  • negative pitch is not incorporated into a helicopters design, because the whole point is lift, not to suck you down towards your doom. the angle of attack for the wings dose not decend below a flat horizontal position, for reasons stated above :)

  • @flemmingdjensen your such a genius. i dont know why no one has written a book about you yet. maybe one day someone with great mental prowess will write a book about you and all your infinate wisdom. ill tell you what. ill design a helicopter with negative pitch and you and and all your gay friends can fly off into the sunset and autorotate together and end up one big ball of infused flesh and bone.

  • that was so pretty! im so nervous about doing full downs for my CFI in the R22. hopefully it goes something like this video.

  • Veeeeeeeery good...

  • I have an EC 120 (ZS-RZZ) and that is a beautifully executed full down autorotation.

  • whats the name of the song

  • Try flying without the proper training, you'll get part of the answer to your third question.

  • That is a simulated engine failure..theres enough residual power to make it look and feel effortless. An actual engine failure with a naked rotor is quite different in nature.

  • But its still a very nice and smooth autoland. I've seen pilot, who can't land smooth like that with engine.... :-)

  • Silent landing

    it would perfect for commandos

  • While this may be true, a powered landing is probably much more safer.

  • its nice landing. this is good in copters. what if lost your only motor in a cessna?! not so hopefull. In a heli you have more chance

  • not at all. much more control over where a small plane lands as they glide a lot better than helicopters >.>

  • @nkatsinas yeah but can you land in a field of boulders that are as big as a car? when i touch down my foward speed is about 3 or 4 knots. so how fast is your forward speed when you land with a dead engine?

  • More chance of surviving an engine failure in a small aircraft then in a helicopter..

    Planes have a best glide speed they aim for when the engine fails; it's a speed with the best distance/loss of altitude ratio.

  • I meaned situations like you haven't enough or there is no royal road to land "safety" I don't want to argue, it's just a guess.

  • yeah, but have fun hitting the ground at 70 mph. the problem with engine failures in fixed wings are you need a lot of room to stop. with a heli, if you have a clear area the size of your helicopter you can put it down there (if its in the right place for an auto). i would rather auto into the top of trees than hit them at 70 mph any day!!

  • i agree...you may be able to have the best glide, but if can't make your emergency field, good chance you could cartwheel if you have to put it down on unprepared terrain.

  • 70 mph? you can land a 172 at 35MPH.

  • You Can Land a helicopter at zero MPH

  • @dday216 not true at all... try and do an auto into anything but a good sized field and i'll pay you a visit at your funeral. take out the forward airspeed and you fall like you are trying to kill yourself

  • @mjm9536

    It doesnt have to be very large. As long as you have good rotor rpm you will make it. We practice full autos on to the spot with the Bell 206B all the time.

  • My flight instructor kept saying that he'd rather be in a helicopter than in a plane if the engine fails. He said speed kills you and you can not land a plane without speed but you can land a helicopter with 0 speed. I agree.

  • Well, the only difference is that most planes turn into gliders, giving you the option of landing anywhere. It also gives you time, something you don't have when your engine quits in a helicopter.

    Helicopters engine quits: You drop out of the sky.

    Airplanes engine quits: You glide to where ever you want.

  • It is not true that a helicopter drops out of the sky if the engine quits. Depending on your height over ground you can have lots of time. It also "glides". The good thing about it is: you can land it on a roof top if necesary. Planes need space and a suitable landing surface, therefore most planes crash in a emergency landing. Aircraft is not made for crashes, You should really take a flight lesson in a heli to find out/learn more. Flight schools offer this kind of "lessons" at special rates

  • Well, I am CFII rated in a fixed wing aircraft and have my private in a helicopter. I perform emergency landings in airplanes on a daily basis. While yes, an inexperienced pilot can crash in both a helicopter and a airplane, in most situations a plane can be landed safely.

  • Helicopters in autorotation are gliding.

  • haha not if the helicopter gives out few1000 feet in the air you just fall straight down kiss ur ass goodbye but with a plane you just glide look for a suitable landing area and enjoy the flyte :)

  • all of you guys are wrong, thats the whole point of an autorotation! if the engine dies, you enter an auto and the wind going up through the rotor system allows you to control your rate of decent and airspeed.

  • You're almost retarded, aren't you?

  • Wrong...

  • Care to elaborate?

  • Impressive.

  • very nice!

  • Very nice! looked smooth and flawless.

  • Impressive!

  • It's only practice. You want the power available in case you f up and want to do a go-around...

  • That's true because he did still have power as indicated by the rotor blades still spinning after he came to a stop. However, it was a simulated power loss auto rotation and he did a fantastic job. Especially that flair to bleed off speed was great.

  • looks like the airport Ambri in Swiss

  • Is this in Hawaii?

  • Nice auto.

    NZ

    -King Of The Skies-

  • Впечатляет!

  • Nice auto. In a real emergency you let the rotor RPM go up another 10% and then you don't need to run on.

  • MUITO BOM MUITO BOM MUITO BOM

  • Very Nice! I can do this on my Rc Heli lol. This is very cool

  • were is this place

  • Sion / Switzerland

  • Truly beautifully done!

  • nice autorotation! Whats the name of the music?

  • i always thought when a heli's engine kicked out it fell to the ground like a rock

  • BEAUTIFUL auto..Thats how it's done.

  • good auto landing...bottom of the tail looked like it almost dragged

  • Was this in Interlaken, Switzerland?

  • No it was in Sion. I can tell you this because I'm the guy who took the pictures :-)

  • Gorgeous bird... the EC-120 is one of my favorite helos. Sweet autorotation... nice job on the flare. The belly camera view is cool too.

  • Beutiful auto, congrats.

  • hey! great flying there!

    whats the song called?

    great vid. 5 Star

  • ...voilà qui méritait bien YouTube!

  • that is so easy!!!

  • easy as growing u up jorge, btw nice job birddog, i do my licence next month and that maneuvor is what makes my adrenalin pump i guess, do you have more footage?

  • Ideally would have levelled off more for the touchdown, but otherwise real nice, and the only reason I can think of for not levelling more at the end is the CoG situation in a 120 due to the Fenestron.

  • I was the pilot of this aircraft and the reason for not levelling the ship is that the rotor mast is slightly tilted forward. If you level the ship for touchdown, it will increase ground speed thus requiring a longer ground run. The day the movie was shot, the wind was less than 5 kts and the aircraft slided less than 10 ft.

  • Cheers for the reply, I've not gotten to fly a 120 yet, so was speculating on CoG, but seeing them operate where I am, you often see the tail relatively low. Given the wind, that's a real short and smooth run on; you putting any others up, they're an excellent visual aid.

  • Same as the B407.. you land on the heals in an auto.

  • Nice auto what company do you fly for?

    I fly th MH-60S when we auto we fall like a brick. We don't do full autos in them.

  • WOW! I've never actually seen a helicopter landing without power. Amazing landing! He pulled up at the last second and touched down pretty smooth! You'd really have to know what you're doing. The only helicopter I've ever flown is in MS Flight Simulator, and I still can't land right!

  • that was a nice autorotation landing, and judging by the fact that there were two pilots this might indiacte that one was a student etc. if the student did that, thats amazing either way great autorotate anding

  • its all cus of acceleration... when u at a constant speed u dont feel anything.. think of a car.. each time u step on the pedal, u gonna feel a jerk.. stay at a constant speed and no matter how fast (airplane) u aint gonna feel a thing

  • Yes, just one more question. When flying a plane I don't really feel any speed sensation (except during take off), it feels as if the plane isn't moving at all. Is this feeling the same in a chopper, or do you get more feelings of speed as if in a rollar coaster?

  • If its just straight and level flight at any speed, you dont really feel it. Most perceptions of speed are based on "G" forces and the passing rate of objects around you. Because aircraft travel so high the perception of other objects is messed with. Although turns can really be felt depending on the speed and bank angle. You guys cant really turn at the rate we can. Like any aircraft though, It can be made to behave erratically. This can be a good thing or a bad thing.

  • Read more about Newton´s law and you will find out why you feel the forces on your body as you change the state of motion on your aircraft.

    Best regards to all

  • Wow that looks fun. Of topic question: how is helicopter flying compared to airplane flying?

  • I have found that a Helo takes a lot more concentration than a fixed wing aircraft. Hope that makes sense to you.

  • Hey Birddog; For some reason my favorite Ameno video is no longer accessable. Can I some how get a copy? From one pilot to another!!!

    Thx Steve A

  • as a helicopter pilot i say kudos.

  • Hey birddog36 what type of mac do you own?

  • 2x2 GHz PowerPC G5

  • I just noticed a plane taking off as you were landing!!!

  • That was an excellent landing. I'm a fixed wing pilot, but I know a good landing when I see one!!! Great video work too!!!

  • Wow, what a great landing!!!

    Perfect job, mate! ;)

  • Very neat autorotation. Excellent

  • Wow good work!

  • That's really classy flying. Now I understand how heli pilots arrest the rate of descent.

  • Wow thats one pretty landling there.

    im impressed. you seem very good with the stick.

  • how do u do get the video in video?

  • I did the editing in Final Cut express. It's just a cool feature of the software.

  • very cool

  • Wow that is scary!

  • Very Nice! Are you at the commands?

  • Thank you, Yes I was flying

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