Just finished watching this movie, and your review is the first that came up. The movie itself was Great. The whole beginning of the movie brings in the normal feel of the high school student life. It's all there in order to get smashed apart by the shooting. Just showing how real this is, and how fast your world can turn upside down. I agree about the acting in parts. (especially the teacher in the classroom)
The long walking shots are there to help you sink in the scene. It gives the audience time to think and understand the characters by observing them and making our own conclusions, instead of essentially having everything told to us by having the characters overly portray themselves.
Also, the fact that nobody notices Alex & Eric when they're carrying the artillery, is EXACTLY that--NOBODY notices them.
Watch it again. But this time with an open mind that is less focused on the artistic vision.
@omnomtaylorrr Realism, in movies and games, is non-existant. Although it may seem classy to have random characters who barely know what they're doing, proper actors should make it seem that they are a random individual. Besides, with the big camera glaring at their faces, they would have been well aware it was a moving, which is why, in the teacher scene, the teacher lacks almost all emotions. If I seen my student get shot, I'd call the cop, tell the students to get the hell under their tables.
.Nothing in life is plot driven, I just live my life according to who i am.Every movie now days is over dramatized to appeal to a wide audience .The acting is a little sub par but oh well The movie symbolizes the fact that for a story like "school shooting" it needs to be heart gripping and dramatic ,If people hadn't told you how big of a deal Columbine was would you give a fuck? that's what this movie is saying "people look bored like expecting more"
the movie is somewhat boring to some and the fact that the normal everyday person thinks it is boring is a statement about society, going into this movie i knew what was going to happen, i heard it was a movie loosely based upon the Columbine shootings so nothing really surprised me as far as plot . This is a statement about how desensitized we are to things like this, we have to have a dramatic plot driven story to keep us interested in the movie
Haha, this review cracks me up. I thought that this movie was painfully boring because it was intended to be realistic, but I gradually realized that it was entirely unrealistic. The only defenders of the movie I've been able to remotely understand are those who say that the film is meant to be symbolic. Supposedly the unrealistic reactions to the shooting are supposed to represent how people ignore violence. But then why didn't they just show this in a realistic way? Argh.
I pretty much agree with you, dude. That part with the Black kid just creeping up on the kid with the gun was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. I also disapproved of the random kiss between Alex and Eric in the shower. It was like Van Sant was trying his best to be edgy.
One of the things I didn't get was that, the morning of the shooting, before they go to the school, we find out that Eric and Alex are in a relationship with each other. Then they go, they do the shooting, they're pretty much wrapping up. Then they meet in the cafeteria and Eric shoots Alex. . . . . . What? Really? . . . . Why? Just . . . . . . why?
I think the reason he choice unknown actors is so the celebrity status of a famous actor doesn't get in the way of the story. Lazy? Have you seen the movie Elephant (1989)? It was based off of that style...
I don't understand how showing those long shots are lazy on the filmmakers part. If anything the viewer is lazy to dismiss it as filler and not understand why it's being shown to them.
the actors were ment to be seen as everyday people and not like the actors in big roles. the walking around was not meant to be lazy by any means. its just like real life, you go to school making your way to class or a specific destination and most of the times your by yourself. think about the times you walk by yourself and how much you walk. i fucking hate this review.
I agree with just about everything you said. The excessive walking scenes were especially annoying. The only person in this film who had any acting talent whatsoever was Alex Frost who played Alex. I found his character pretty compelling, but the rest of the acting was lousy and unbelievable.
What are you talking about? I couldn't disagree more with you more. The random normal kids is great. You think he is lazy bc he has new "no name" actors? Is your mom lazy for having 1980's curtains and pillows? Give me a break kid.
@ErickWithNoK good review man I agree with you on the droning shots. While it is interesting I think it's an art that needs to be reformed. A VERY similar film (in terms of style) is a 2005 French film called Cache. I think that it uses this "fixed shot" type of filming much better. It won several awards at the Cannes Film Festival.
You have a lot of good points and this is a good review of the movie... I read somewhere that the reason the girl was just standing there was because she suffers some sort of panic disorder...still, i don't think they ever tell you that in the movie....
those long visual shots of them walking down the hall way is supposed give a sense of realism like your going through the day in the life of the victim
@evank0437 Well they don't. They give a sense of a writer that doesn't understand the concept of forging a bond between the audience and the characters in his movie. Instead we get 100 tracking shots and no plot development followed by a massacre that we don't have any connection to. Bullshit.
@evank0437 i know but he didn't necessarily hate on the fact that there was long walks.. its just that it was unrealistic, despite its purposes to be realistic.
I totally don't get the black kid walking around. He see's fires, and bodies yet he still goes up behind the shooter? I am not sure if he was supposed to be a hero trying to stop the shooting or what?
I have heard he's supposed to be deaf so he didn't know what was going on. I think that's a weak argument when he actually can SEE the bodies, fires and mayhem even if he couldn't HEAR it.
I appreciate some of the moive, for the most part I just don't think he Gus pulled it off.
I do understand the point of this movie, and while I totally admire the intent there were to many parts that I just didn't understand. One point is that there are to many non reactions to the shootings. Like the kids in a circle i just don't believe that there wouldn't be more panic.
The girl who didn't move was in shock I assumed so I do think that part was fine.
I think this movie made the same mistake as Zero Day when trying reenact Columbine. Both movies tried to portray the kids as being completely normal. If you read those kids' journal entries, you would know that they were not normal at all - they were psychotic. They did not just shoot up their school because they played too many video games or just randomly felt like doing it. There were several reasons that made the real killers do what they did. It was a prolonged deterioration of the mind.
I agree with everything but Benny. The whole idea behind Benny was to show that trying to be a hero doesn't work, nothing really works out like the movies.
I liked it when Eric was talking to Alex and you hear this bird chirping loudly and Alex shoots Eric because it was unexpected.
But other than that the movie was terrible. If we cld hear what the people that were walking were saying, fair enough I'd call it realistic but it's not, it's just dem walkin
Ugh thank you! God I thought I was the only one who thought this. It seems like he was just trying to drag what should have been a short into a full-length... bring in the 20 minute walking scenes.
c'mon man.. the reason why it seems boring is because it is a REALISTIC depiction of a school shooting. we normally see things like this dramatized all the time in movies, where there's a storyline and romance and sympathy and whatnot- no, van sant wanted to tell it how it is. the shooters don't need a backstory because it is UNREALISTIC. the actors were actual high school students, not hollywood stars. and like in real life, there is no resolution in this film; it's cold and empty like it began
I feel like you didn't really grasp the point of the movie :/, which is too bad. You shouldn't watch this with the intention of wanting to fit it into a mainstream-fitting. so the absence of action and tracking shots etcetera etcetera, are actually a good thing. ANYWAY, i think you oughta read into filmography and techniques. I don't particularly like GUs van Sante perse, but I adored this.
i agree the movie is basically kids walking then two guys fucking in the shower it makes no sense what so ever the only good part is when they nut the fuck up and shoot the place up
But if you are not afraid of being slapped in the face with real life, if you are not afraid to be put in the mind of a visionary director (Gus Van Sant is a visionary I don't care what the ignorant critic in the above video says) then you will appreciate this movie for what it really is. It is, in all senses of the word, a piece of art
And all the while, Beethoven's Fur Elise plays, soaring above the movie like some haunting lullaby. The audience is nearly put asleep, lost in some hazy stupor, and it is just at this point that Gus Van Sant hits his audience with one of the most truly horrifying and gripping scenes ever put onto film. No, this is not a good movie for you if all you want to see is a good shoot out scene. No this is not a good movie for you if you have the attention span of an eight year old
the beauty and the genius of this movie is it's superb portrayal of real life. Gus van Sant chose nobody actors so that the audience wouldn't recognize any of the faces and thus give the movie a more realistic feel. He told them to improve so that the dialogue would be staccato and occasionally awkward - just like it is in real life. The long tracking shots are meant to lull the audience into a trance - just like a person gets lulled into a trance by repeating the same, high school day over
haha nice thoughts man. i have an opinion on one of your questions. the part where you were talking about how the kid didn't call the police. my opinion is that gus van sant wanted to portray that character as someone who secretly deep down wanted the shooting to occur. i mean i think he was those two guys with the guns, i think he was their hidden character. why else would he be present in the movie so often? he had the same thoughts as the other two guys but he was too pussy to walk the walk.
I just saw the movie, some hours ago, and I didnt like it.. 1 hour and 15 minutes you just see walking, talking, nothing intresting and hte last 15 means you see one person dieing with blood, the rest is vague...
He cast them because its raw. Its real. You become so enwrapped.
Act means to do not to pretend by the way. Thats the problem with people who see acting sometimes. These kids were playing themselves. I'd rather see this than see Daniel Radcliffe put his cock in a vice and scream "Wingardiam Leviosa" ...
Yeah I agree with a bunch of the others that you have to keep in mind that it is based on Columbine, and me being a bit of an expert on the subject, have to say it was QUITE similar to the real thing.
I liked it with the improv and random people. It was more spontaneous and unplanned that way. I Think the reason people reacted in ways you saw unusual is that truly, this shooting was the first of its kind and no one knew what to do when it happened.
Assuming this story takes place in a reality where Columbine didn't happen, I'd say the reactions of the students/teachers was pretty natural. Sure, the acting wasn't top notch, but it wasn't horrible. I heard plenty of screaming and saw plenty of running going on. Not everyone is going to have the same reaction to something like that. Plenty of kids wear camo on a regular basis, so should we assume that anyone in camo is on a murdering rampage? (count.)
Oh wow so I"m confused now - I just watched the movie: is it just 'based' off columbine, rather than directly a 'true story' based off of it? You know what I mean? Like it's just a random movie about a shooting?
I give it a 7/10, I agree with the long walking shots lmao.
I believe the reason why people in the movie acted rather odd about the school shooting (as if it was no big deal) has to do with the title, Elephant. You know, like the phrase, "a problem being as easy to ignore as an elephant in a bedroom." School shootings happen because people ignore the problems that kids are having that would result in them turning to homicidal behavior. If people saw the signs, then the problem wouldn't build up to the size of an elephant. I dunno, that's my thought on it
Yeah, but nothing happens in these shots. I love long shots, just look at Children of Men - brilliant. I'm sure maybe one long walking shot would've been great, to get a feel of the school atmosphere, but Gus Van Sant just does it like 5 or 6 times, completely pointless and boring.
Depends on your intent. And the finished product. Painting is an artform, but not every painting is worth something. I don't really get your point though. You could hire a tank and make a war film if you really wanted. Doesn't mean it will be any good.
My point is that the long tracking shots are not that hard to execute and i fail to see how it is an artform, let alone how it is even decent film making.
But when Gus Van Sant films the back of a high school kids head for three minutes straight walking down a school hall, its art right?
Do you often judge the artistic merit of entire films based on the merit of a single shot? Films are artistic works as a whole. Three minutes of walking through a school doesn't mean anything on its own, but as a part of the film it does. Besides, doing a shot/reverse shot isn't hard either.
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ErickWithNoK watched bout half your review and then gave up. Just couldnt get thru what u thought was prolly important. I mean if i missed a real important like tid bit, catch me up. Otherwise, fuck off, like just go fuck off. You say Gus Van Sant annoys you by casting NoBodies, well, Reviiews fucking PISS ME OFF by casting nobodies! why the fuck do I need to see ur face as u complain bout a Sant movie, UR weak at best, fuck off and fuck off and die while ur at
Some of your comments are pretty lame about the movie.
The blonde guy did what he thought was best for him at the moment. To save the people he can before it was too late. In the heat of the moment, no one knows what to do in a panicky state. As for being in the camo 20 feet from the school, no one believes these things can happen. That's why no one reported seeing guys with camo. the initial thought of people, "oh it's nothing."
is silent, man! he will not say he liked the movie because it has a gay kiss and the two boys are super sexy and the film has a high level provocative and sensual ... so simple ~ ~
I think elephant is really great. I think it's different from other movies and I like that things aren't always happening for example i can understand you don't like those long walks but, it makes the movie so much more intense. it gives it a deeper feeling.
I can't believe you had the audacity to make this video.
it's a perfect example of narrative cinema refashioning itself in response to the challenge of video games, it's pretty obvious!
DO NOT REVIEW ARTHOUSE FILMS,
if you can't appreciate good film.
The walking scene by the way, was following a narrative structure that relates to video game on a huge level, following the character as if you WERE him!
It takes a familiar story that all people know and adds suspence and tension
@SucksAtGuitarHero really? i thought 2:37 was great. 100x better than Elephant. why do you think 2:37 was horrible? (i know you're comment is a year old but i still want to reply back to you aha)
don't like sean penn, but i like this movie. spoiler! the best is when the two guys shoot everybody ^_^ but i didn't like the very ending because you kept you guessing and i wanted to know who the guy shot first
Saying that Gus Van Sant doesn't cast well is a fucking lie. He has worked with Robin Williams, Matt Damon, Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, Victor Garber, James Franco, Emile Hirsch, Matt Dillon, River Phoenix, Keany Reeves, Ben Affleck, Sean Connery, Rob Brown, F. Murray Abraham, Anna Paquin, Uma Thurman, Nicole Kidman, Joaquin Phoenix, Julianne Moore, Viggo Mortensen, William H. Macy.
IMO, I think the use of unknown people in Elephant is more artistic than lazy, because it was his intension to use underage teenagers to give it a more realistic feeling to it. Though, the actors aren't the main thing about this movie. It's about the beautiful order of scenes and the story-telling on a diffrent way (e.g. repeated scenes from diffrent angles). Also, the special focus and close-up on the characters, filming from above, subtle actions, ... So I thought this movie was wonderful.
OH AND ALSO U HAVE NO IDEA WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT obviously he knows what he's doing because otherwise the movie wouldn't have been made u dumbass so shut up (soz bout the comment to the rest of you but i do not like this boy)
There is a differnce between normal kids and making things seem natural as day to day from kids who TRY to act, making it seem corny or cliche in some cases.
Idk, if I want to see this movie yet...we'll see....
and actually it makes since if you know about guns with every pack of ammo there is one blank the kid tht went to the door got shot with the blank tht is y there was no intry wound blanks still hurt but they only leave large bruises and are known to make someone go unconsiuos he possibly died from tht becuse i think he got shot in the heart area it probably made him have a heart att from tht while he was blacked out. tht is the only reason the teacher said wake-up but your rite the movie=strange
the director choose random kids because they dont know how to act so they just act normal so it does make a good actor becuse they are so naturaul..he did the long walk shots becuse it keeps you wondering what will happen in the next scene hope tht brings new ideas too you :)
i thought this movie was awesome because it seemed even beyond realistic, and it was really disturbing & i thought the way it was shot as if someone was taking a regular camera and shooting everything on the fly was a genius move but mostly i liked the ending way better then the entire movie which really says something but it was like nothing was being held back and i liked that, i'd give it a 4/5 for creativity.
I love this movie. I understand what you mean about the actors though. This movie made me cry. And its the only movie that has ever made me cry. I do love the improv, though. Nice review though.
You, my friend are one of the worst movie reviewers. . . .ever. And Your the lazy one, do some research bud. You thought the movie was annoying try listening to 8 minutes of you reviewing :)
its about the columbine shooting. dumbass. not some random movie. shit head. he didnt improve, and those kids were trying to portray the real kids, so shut the fuck up, douche bag. your lazy. (:
this was only loosely based on the columbine high school. i believe that the reason why we arent given any insight in the characters personal life, is to promote the idea of this being probable in everybody's environment.
I don't really know what to say. I, myself, am into Film and video editing and this movie was recommended to me by a friend. I downloaded the movie and watched it and I have to agree with you on how the timeline isn't linear. I liked that, like in the movie vantage point. However, I wouldn't be so quick to criticize some of the acting. I'm assuming even the amateur acting was well thought. I'm not sure what I would do when faced with that situation. And the blonde kid didn't have anyway to call.
they're not called "walking shots" ...they're called "tracking shots" and um i think he put them in there because in the video game that the killers play
they only see the backs of the figures they shoot. Gus was trying to make you view the school as the killers see it.
and obviously it worked...because you don't have any emotion towards any of the students. i didn';t find the movie amazing. but its not bad. don't over think the acting. i don't think the acting is the most important part.
In my opinion i thought the film was great and i thought the actors did great too and if they were have put actors with big names i think the movie wouldn't have unique because i think this movie is unique and i think that the whole point of putting scenes where the actors don't say anything but just walk was probaly just to add suspense
O.k. i want to say that i thought the acting was great in Elephant, i think improv was a good technique to use to capture real high school conversations. And also, the thing about how no one did anything about the shooters, the title refers to "the elephant in the room" where there's this huge oblivious secret but no one acts or is too afraid to act on it. In my opinion I thought Elephant was good but you did point out this that I didn't notice before like the Benny thing.
I don't know a lot about Van Sant., but I liked the film for what it was. I thought the kids did a good job acting and I applaud them for that. I'm a father w/ a son in middle school and this film as well as Columbine left a long lasting impression on me as what could and has been happening in schools across the country and I know it's not if but when it will happen again. The blonde kid was right, there are more of them out there just like him.
but i dont think the acting was too bad. I thought it made it seem more real.
and yeah, that scene where the gay-straight allance kid gets shot, and no one does anything, was confusing, same with Benny getting shot.
and with the blond kid telling ppl not to go in, i thought he just didnt call the cops cause he wasnt sure what was happening, so he just told ppl not to go in just in case, you know?
its actually a pretty film the way Van Sant shot it and having unknown actors is good in this film as the film is realistic and gritty.what do you want?miley cyrus in this film?or maybe the jonas brothers?your some joke of a man,havent a clue do you?typical dumb american who likes all these shit hollywood nonsense and cant accept a good independant fim...
oh and.. Long scenes and limited camera angles in movies used to piss me off, but then I realised thats because they contradict what you're used to. If a movie is taking me to a place outside my comfort zone of what I expect (genre) and leave me frustrated etc. I don't say "that's a movie I don't like". I ask what about it is taking me out of my comfort zone? and rethink my values and expectations
My film studies professor briefly mentioned this movie in a lecture about genre.
Van sant difers from a lot of contemporary directors in his deviance from current editing trends. Scenes in movies have gradually become shorter and shorter. Traditionally scenes were between 10-14 seconds on average. Now they're usually between 7-8 seconds long.
I apologize but I don't respect your opinion at all :/
PS. If you think that Van Sant is the best artist in the world, don't bother ever watching one of my videos ever again. I don't want someone like you watching them.
Get your eyebrows waxed & watch it with an open mind. Just because there is no one having sex or steaing someones girlfriend like in other high school movies, does not mean the actors cannot act. It is supposed to be slow, its a piece of art, so you need to wait for the big finish! Gus is basically painting a picture, yeah pretty boring, but at the end of it.. There is a piece of art!
Yeah well people who thought Elephant was good think they're smart. They don't realize that they're just trying to be cool by saying Elephant was a good movie. Nope nope nope! :D
why do u call everyone a loser... it just shows u must be one too. your not a gangsta cos u can say bad stuff about someone elsews succes so get a life
im suprized that this guy didnt comment of how alex shot eric
AlbertWesker201 5 months ago
This movie is supposed to be based on the Columbine Shooting if you've been living under a rock.
Jegudiel29ZX 8 months ago
Jeff Weise who started the Red Lake Massacre loved this movie. According to reports he always skipped to watch the violent parts of the movie.
Jegudiel29ZX 8 months ago
Just finished watching this movie, and your review is the first that came up. The movie itself was Great. The whole beginning of the movie brings in the normal feel of the high school student life. It's all there in order to get smashed apart by the shooting. Just showing how real this is, and how fast your world can turn upside down. I agree about the acting in parts. (especially the teacher in the classroom)
mkhpsyco 10 months ago
The long walking shots are there to help you sink in the scene. It gives the audience time to think and understand the characters by observing them and making our own conclusions, instead of essentially having everything told to us by having the characters overly portray themselves.
Also, the fact that nobody notices Alex & Eric when they're carrying the artillery, is EXACTLY that--NOBODY notices them.
Watch it again. But this time with an open mind that is less focused on the artistic vision.
brandnewhate01 10 months ago 2
@brandnewhate01 Very True
sacruz1984 10 months ago
yea u understand what u mean about some of the improv like the part with the teacher
ThaMuzeekEnthuziest 11 months ago
And maybe he wanted to use unknown actors? To make it seem more realistic? It doesn't have to be "artsy" or whatever. He wanted to make it REAL.
omnomtaylorrr 11 months ago
@omnomtaylorrr Realism, in movies and games, is non-existant. Although it may seem classy to have random characters who barely know what they're doing, proper actors should make it seem that they are a random individual. Besides, with the big camera glaring at their faces, they would have been well aware it was a moving, which is why, in the teacher scene, the teacher lacks almost all emotions. If I seen my student get shot, I'd call the cop, tell the students to get the hell under their tables.
connosd 8 months ago
.Nothing in life is plot driven, I just live my life according to who i am.Every movie now days is over dramatized to appeal to a wide audience .The acting is a little sub par but oh well The movie symbolizes the fact that for a story like "school shooting" it needs to be heart gripping and dramatic ,If people hadn't told you how big of a deal Columbine was would you give a fuck? that's what this movie is saying "people look bored like expecting more"
SincerelyEmilie 1 year ago
the movie is somewhat boring to some and the fact that the normal everyday person thinks it is boring is a statement about society, going into this movie i knew what was going to happen, i heard it was a movie loosely based upon the Columbine shootings so nothing really surprised me as far as plot . This is a statement about how desensitized we are to things like this, we have to have a dramatic plot driven story to keep us interested in the movie
SincerelyEmilie 1 year ago
Haha, this review cracks me up. I thought that this movie was painfully boring because it was intended to be realistic, but I gradually realized that it was entirely unrealistic. The only defenders of the movie I've been able to remotely understand are those who say that the film is meant to be symbolic. Supposedly the unrealistic reactions to the shooting are supposed to represent how people ignore violence. But then why didn't they just show this in a realistic way? Argh.
elleoneiram 1 year ago
duDE MAKE A FUCKING MOVIE ALREADY,
Nextdirector123 1 year ago
I pretty much agree with you, dude. That part with the Black kid just creeping up on the kid with the gun was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. I also disapproved of the random kiss between Alex and Eric in the shower. It was like Van Sant was trying his best to be edgy.
ariharveykinkle 1 year ago
your just jealous. It was good. the only question i have is why did eric shoot alex at the end...i may never know.
erutanl89 1 year ago
@erutanl89 He is disturbed.
brandnewhate01 10 months ago
Strange movie!
stonerguy19666 1 year ago
One of the things I didn't get was that, the morning of the shooting, before they go to the school, we find out that Eric and Alex are in a relationship with each other. Then they go, they do the shooting, they're pretty much wrapping up. Then they meet in the cafeteria and Eric shoots Alex. . . . . . What? Really? . . . . Why? Just . . . . . . why?
gibbsisawesome 1 year ago
I think the reason he choice unknown actors is so the celebrity status of a famous actor doesn't get in the way of the story. Lazy? Have you seen the movie Elephant (1989)? It was based off of that style...
andy92811 1 year ago
I don't understand how showing those long shots are lazy on the filmmakers part. If anything the viewer is lazy to dismiss it as filler and not understand why it's being shown to them.
Giveemhellkid2424 1 year ago
i made a review of this now
HellBits971 1 year ago
the actors were ment to be seen as everyday people and not like the actors in big roles. the walking around was not meant to be lazy by any means. its just like real life, you go to school making your way to class or a specific destination and most of the times your by yourself. think about the times you walk by yourself and how much you walk. i fucking hate this review.
BloodLikeLemonade 1 year ago
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HellBits971 1 year ago
6:58. read on wikipedia
HellBits971 1 year ago
I agree with just about everything you said. The excessive walking scenes were especially annoying. The only person in this film who had any acting talent whatsoever was Alex Frost who played Alex. I found his character pretty compelling, but the rest of the acting was lousy and unbelievable.
CHsophie 1 year ago
@broinboston hahaha I agree
KingTekins 1 year ago
What are you talking about? I couldn't disagree more with you more. The random normal kids is great. You think he is lazy bc he has new "no name" actors? Is your mom lazy for having 1980's curtains and pillows? Give me a break kid.
cchandler2423 1 year ago
i thought this movie was RETARED !! i 100% agree with you that everything was horrible !
kikib67 1 year ago
i like john robinson, was he really that bad in the movie? lol
iLOVEYOURPANTS 1 year ago
@iLOVEYOURPANTS Yeah.He acted pretty badly in Elephant,but I still like him and didn't mind that he did't act so well.It's a good movie though.
kaylawayla23 1 year ago
@iLOVEYOURPANTS it wasn't the acting to me. it was the character
MrMoviebuff5000 10 months ago
I totally agree with the critic. The film wasn't worth the money.
Paranoid Park was much better than Elephant.
carlrichter99 1 year ago
you obviously dont understand the meaning of the walking scenes.
kings57 1 year ago
1/4 stars*
samfisher170 1 year ago
I agree with you. It would be a good movie if the actors made a little more sense and stuff.. xD
And the ending is really annoying, they should have shown what happened to the kid that was shooting everyone..
JessicaFaaaith 1 year ago
umm improv is realistic not artistic
brothersport92 1 year ago
@broinboston And yet, look at what you did.
Also I'm not a critic, I'm just a kid. But thanks I guess.
ErickWithNoK 1 year ago 22
@ErickWithNoK Saying "Annoying" so often IS critic! Sorry, but it's a great movie!
SpanishPresent 1 year ago
@ErickWithNoK good review man I agree with you on the droning shots. While it is interesting I think it's an art that needs to be reformed. A VERY similar film (in terms of style) is a 2005 French film called Cache. I think that it uses this "fixed shot" type of filming much better. It won several awards at the Cannes Film Festival.
ChristopherMcCandles 1 year ago
Elephant is Awesome
WisconsinRebals2010 1 year ago
i absolutely love his short film in paris je t'aime. i think elephant has a romantic style. not very traditional....which is why i enjoyed it.
sweetorangegb 1 year ago
can u play a better role than anyone in any movie? didnt think so queer bait. so fucking shut up and never post any more videos faggot!
3mpyre 1 year ago
Elephant and Zeroday were good movies.
WisconsinRebals2010 2 years ago
You have a lot of good points and this is a good review of the movie... I read somewhere that the reason the girl was just standing there was because she suffers some sort of panic disorder...still, i don't think they ever tell you that in the movie....
6carma6 2 years ago
this was a very well written review
nice job man
kevinsajokster 2 years ago
those long visual shots of them walking down the hall way is supposed give a sense of realism like your going through the day in the life of the victim
evank0437 2 years ago 16
Maybe, but they overdid the walking shots. I don't want to feel like I'm in a movie if it's boring up until the end.
Robizdamanwitdaplan 1 year ago
then this movie isnt for you, you are supposed to feel like you are in the school the day the shooting goes down. thats what makes this film so good.
evank0437 1 year ago
@evank0437 Well they don't. They give a sense of a writer that doesn't understand the concept of forging a bond between the audience and the characters in his movie. Instead we get 100 tracking shots and no plot development followed by a massacre that we don't have any connection to. Bullshit.
alifeinthelens 11 months ago
@evank0437 i know but he didn't necessarily hate on the fact that there was long walks.. its just that it was unrealistic, despite its purposes to be realistic.
JpassTheTime 9 months ago
I didn't understand at all why the kid with the gun let the principal go and then shot him anyway.
1NotEvenFunny1 2 years ago
to be a bitch? lol
6carma6 2 years ago
I totally don't get the black kid walking around. He see's fires, and bodies yet he still goes up behind the shooter? I am not sure if he was supposed to be a hero trying to stop the shooting or what?
I have heard he's supposed to be deaf so he didn't know what was going on. I think that's a weak argument when he actually can SEE the bodies, fires and mayhem even if he couldn't HEAR it.
I appreciate some of the moive, for the most part I just don't think he Gus pulled it off.
BatmanFanGirl 2 years ago
I do understand the point of this movie, and while I totally admire the intent there were to many parts that I just didn't understand. One point is that there are to many non reactions to the shootings. Like the kids in a circle i just don't believe that there wouldn't be more panic.
The girl who didn't move was in shock I assumed so I do think that part was fine.
BatmanFanGirl 2 years ago
I think this movie made the same mistake as Zero Day when trying reenact Columbine. Both movies tried to portray the kids as being completely normal. If you read those kids' journal entries, you would know that they were not normal at all - they were psychotic. They did not just shoot up their school because they played too many video games or just randomly felt like doing it. There were several reasons that made the real killers do what they did. It was a prolonged deterioration of the mind.
7AntichristSuperstar 2 years ago
SPOILERS BELOW
I agree with everything but Benny. The whole idea behind Benny was to show that trying to be a hero doesn't work, nothing really works out like the movies.
I liked it when Eric was talking to Alex and you hear this bird chirping loudly and Alex shoots Eric because it was unexpected.
But other than that the movie was terrible. If we cld hear what the people that were walking were saying, fair enough I'd call it realistic but it's not, it's just dem walkin
shifre 2 years ago
Ugh thank you! God I thought I was the only one who thought this. It seems like he was just trying to drag what should have been a short into a full-length... bring in the 20 minute walking scenes.
mcrbored 2 years ago
c'mon man.. the reason why it seems boring is because it is a REALISTIC depiction of a school shooting. we normally see things like this dramatized all the time in movies, where there's a storyline and romance and sympathy and whatnot- no, van sant wanted to tell it how it is. the shooters don't need a backstory because it is UNREALISTIC. the actors were actual high school students, not hollywood stars. and like in real life, there is no resolution in this film; it's cold and empty like it began
checkkyou 2 years ago
I feel like you didn't really grasp the point of the movie :/, which is too bad. You shouldn't watch this with the intention of wanting to fit it into a mainstream-fitting. so the absence of action and tracking shots etcetera etcetera, are actually a good thing. ANYWAY, i think you oughta read into filmography and techniques. I don't particularly like GUs van Sante perse, but I adored this.
Niekiej 2 years ago
this movie it's art...is not a movie...is not 2 guy that kill...it is not to see....it'complicate
Astharot90 2 years ago 4
i agree the movie is basically kids walking then two guys fucking in the shower it makes no sense what so ever the only good part is when they nut the fuck up and shoot the place up
greengrundu5vids 2 years ago
But if you are not afraid of being slapped in the face with real life, if you are not afraid to be put in the mind of a visionary director (Gus Van Sant is a visionary I don't care what the ignorant critic in the above video says) then you will appreciate this movie for what it really is. It is, in all senses of the word, a piece of art
Uip4py111 2 years ago
And all the while, Beethoven's Fur Elise plays, soaring above the movie like some haunting lullaby. The audience is nearly put asleep, lost in some hazy stupor, and it is just at this point that Gus Van Sant hits his audience with one of the most truly horrifying and gripping scenes ever put onto film. No, this is not a good movie for you if all you want to see is a good shoot out scene. No this is not a good movie for you if you have the attention span of an eight year old
Uip4py111 2 years ago
the beauty and the genius of this movie is it's superb portrayal of real life. Gus van Sant chose nobody actors so that the audience wouldn't recognize any of the faces and thus give the movie a more realistic feel. He told them to improve so that the dialogue would be staccato and occasionally awkward - just like it is in real life. The long tracking shots are meant to lull the audience into a trance - just like a person gets lulled into a trance by repeating the same, high school day over
Uip4py111 2 years ago 2
Elephant is the shit, Gus Van Sant made a great movie, The film made more money than zeroday. It also got 2 awards.
neuweiwit 2 years ago
ur right!! i expected more from this movie
FallenAngelH3 2 years ago
u lost the point, Eric
reviews are not ment to criticize that way
vladeplustor 2 years ago
haha nice thoughts man. i have an opinion on one of your questions. the part where you were talking about how the kid didn't call the police. my opinion is that gus van sant wanted to portray that character as someone who secretly deep down wanted the shooting to occur. i mean i think he was those two guys with the guns, i think he was their hidden character. why else would he be present in the movie so often? he had the same thoughts as the other two guys but he was too pussy to walk the walk.
morningslugger 2 years ago
I just saw the movie, some hours ago, and I didnt like it.. 1 hour and 15 minutes you just see walking, talking, nothing intresting and hte last 15 means you see one person dieing with blood, the rest is vague...
werwar666 2 years ago
elephant rules
neuweiwit 2 years ago 2
He cast them because its raw. Its real. You become so enwrapped.
Act means to do not to pretend by the way. Thats the problem with people who see acting sometimes. These kids were playing themselves. I'd rather see this than see Daniel Radcliffe put his cock in a vice and scream "Wingardiam Leviosa" ...
movieposterboy 2 years ago 2
Yeah I agree with a bunch of the others that you have to keep in mind that it is based on Columbine, and me being a bit of an expert on the subject, have to say it was QUITE similar to the real thing.
I liked it with the improv and random people. It was more spontaneous and unplanned that way. I Think the reason people reacted in ways you saw unusual is that truly, this shooting was the first of its kind and no one knew what to do when it happened.
Only thing I really didn't like was ending
dramallama56 2 years ago
you know whats boring, your reviews............
boozler15 2 years ago
This was based on Columbine. I liked it.
FlyMore100 2 years ago
I think u were really harsh on this movie
He picks unknown actors to make them big
This movie was based on columbine in 1999
there was no cellphones capable of calling let alone a kid having a cell phone
when the black kid was walking around the school it was giving the perspective of actually experiencing it
I really dont know if u knew this was about Columbine
nFiZzL3 2 years ago
gus van sant doesn't give a fuck about good acting.
manicamadeus 2 years ago
Believe me you know PLENTY more shit about directing then Gus Van Sant does. I think he was trying to go for something new but it was just boring.
Theakker3 2 years ago
Gus Van Sant sucks at directing.
Theakker3 2 years ago
True, the actors/actresses did suck.
lol, you called him lazy..
And OMG, the walking scenes killed me.
MollyMassacree 2 years ago
My verdidct:
Assuming this story takes place in a reality where Columbine didn't happen, I'd say the reactions of the students/teachers was pretty natural. Sure, the acting wasn't top notch, but it wasn't horrible. I heard plenty of screaming and saw plenty of running going on. Not everyone is going to have the same reaction to something like that. Plenty of kids wear camo on a regular basis, so should we assume that anyone in camo is on a murdering rampage? (count.)
Persistanceofdali2 2 years ago
Oh wow so I"m confused now - I just watched the movie: is it just 'based' off columbine, rather than directly a 'true story' based off of it? You know what I mean? Like it's just a random movie about a shooting?
I give it a 7/10, I agree with the long walking shots lmao.
RMDigitalVisions 2 years ago
It won the Palm D'or 2003.
dredloxman 2 years ago
I believe the reason why people in the movie acted rather odd about the school shooting (as if it was no big deal) has to do with the title, Elephant. You know, like the phrase, "a problem being as easy to ignore as an elephant in a bedroom." School shootings happen because people ignore the problems that kids are having that would result in them turning to homicidal behavior. If people saw the signs, then the problem wouldn't build up to the size of an elephant. I dunno, that's my thought on it
DarkEveryHeart 2 years ago
Long walking shots are not lazy. I don't see how that's lazy filmmaking. Cinema has had many masters of the long take and it is an art in itself.
sestsa 2 years ago
Uhhh what? how?
pivotguy007 2 years ago
Yeah, but nothing happens in these shots. I love long shots, just look at Children of Men - brilliant. I'm sure maybe one long walking shot would've been great, to get a feel of the school atmosphere, but Gus Van Sant just does it like 5 or 6 times, completely pointless and boring.
RMDigitalVisions 2 years ago
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sestsa 2 years ago
@sestsa
yes it is art when something is happening in the long shots..
this was just walking and walking and walking.. i could do that and a hand held.. would it be art then??
flyer451 2 years ago
Depends on your intent. And the finished product. Painting is an artform, but not every painting is worth something. I don't really get your point though. You could hire a tank and make a war film if you really wanted. Doesn't mean it will be any good.
sestsa 2 years ago
My point is that the long tracking shots are not that hard to execute and i fail to see how it is an artform, let alone how it is even decent film making.
But when Gus Van Sant films the back of a high school kids head for three minutes straight walking down a school hall, its art right?
flyer451 2 years ago
Do you often judge the artistic merit of entire films based on the merit of a single shot? Films are artistic works as a whole. Three minutes of walking through a school doesn't mean anything on its own, but as a part of the film it does. Besides, doing a shot/reverse shot isn't hard either.
sestsa 2 years ago
plz pardon me, I have no idea who you are or what you mean by finishing. I spam accounts with dummy accounts like this one and I'm trying to determine if I should spam you, here let me show you
TheBaconlaser 2 years ago
ErickWithNoK watched bout half your review and then gave up. Just couldnt get thru what u thought was prolly important. I mean if i missed a real important like tid bit, catch me up. Otherwise, fuck off, like just go fuck off. You say Gus Van Sant annoys you by casting NoBodies, well, Reviiews fucking PISS ME OFF by casting nobodies! why the fuck do I need to see ur face as u complain bout a Sant movie, UR weak at best, fuck off and fuck off and die while ur at
laceyschism 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure he'll never read that. You're basicly getting pissed off at nobody
pivotguy007 2 years ago
I don't get it. If you hate the guy, then why are you commenting?
Why do you guys care so much about one person's opinion?
Kikayuki 2 years ago
He used random, normal kids because he wanted to portrait REAL, NORMAL kids.
kiwanna31 2 years ago
I really hate you. You are annoying as FUCK.
OmGzXX 2 years ago
ah dang. I had a pretty long comment to add but my internet failed and I don't feel like rewriting it.
Anyway, art is subjective. Some people get it, some don't. Its cool.
Johnokinawa 2 years ago
Some of your comments are pretty lame about the movie.
The blonde guy did what he thought was best for him at the moment. To save the people he can before it was too late. In the heat of the moment, no one knows what to do in a panicky state. As for being in the camo 20 feet from the school, no one believes these things can happen. That's why no one reported seeing guys with camo. the initial thought of people, "oh it's nothing."
Johnokinawa 2 years ago
i cant stand erick
he liked HSM 3 and Hannah Montana Movie O_o
jgil1967 2 years ago
is silent, man! he will not say he liked the movie because it has a gay kiss and the two boys are super sexy and the film has a high level provocative and sensual ... so simple ~ ~
xuk85 2 years ago
I think elephant is really great. I think it's different from other movies and I like that things aren't always happening for example i can understand you don't like those long walks but, it makes the movie so much more intense. it gives it a deeper feeling.
westerneyelids 2 years ago
the acting was fuckin terrible.
guitarist0201 2 years ago
I can't believe you had the audacity to make this video.
it's a perfect example of narrative cinema refashioning itself in response to the challenge of video games, it's pretty obvious!
DO NOT REVIEW ARTHOUSE FILMS,
if you can't appreciate good film.
The walking scene by the way, was following a narrative structure that relates to video game on a huge level, following the character as if you WERE him!
It takes a familiar story that all people know and adds suspence and tension
britpopboy8910 2 years ago 2
felt the same way
Gumislove 2 years ago
ummmmm,look dude.i sent u a message read it...next time u review a movie try to know what u r talking about
twilightlvrforeva 2 years ago
2:37 was horrible maybe worse than Elephant.
SucksAtGuitarHero 2 years ago
@SucksAtGuitarHero really? i thought 2:37 was great. 100x better than Elephant. why do you think 2:37 was horrible? (i know you're comment is a year old but i still want to reply back to you aha)
blinkoffyourpants 1 year ago
don't like sean penn, but i like this movie. spoiler! the best is when the two guys shoot everybody ^_^ but i didn't like the very ending because you kept you guessing and i wanted to know who the guy shot first
LisaBreeBranch 2 years ago
You guys should see 2:37... It took all the good things from elephant and made a FANTASTIC movie.
NotUnintelligent 2 years ago
ugh, I hated this damn movie. wayyyyy the fuck overrated.
mobman47 2 years ago 2
those fuckin queers in the movie were stupid and it had no point
guitarist0201 2 years ago
not having a point in the movie was the point. Nobody understands why shootings happen thats why Gus Van Sant didn't make a point.
ART is Subjective. You think he's lazy...I think it was brilliant.
Johnokinawa 2 years ago
Elephant is great so fuck you what the hell is your problem
Phykon 2 years ago
the walking was fucked up lol like 5 mins of that wow
xSLAMx18 2 years ago 2
there was a reason van sant used wide angle tracking shots.
he wasn't lazy. in order to set the ambience of the environment he used the sounds alongside the humble music and the different angles of the camera.
Underthegun369 2 years ago
Saying that Gus Van Sant doesn't cast well is a fucking lie. He has worked with Robin Williams, Matt Damon, Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, Victor Garber, James Franco, Emile Hirsch, Matt Dillon, River Phoenix, Keany Reeves, Ben Affleck, Sean Connery, Rob Brown, F. Murray Abraham, Anna Paquin, Uma Thurman, Nicole Kidman, Joaquin Phoenix, Julianne Moore, Viggo Mortensen, William H. Macy.
To say he doesn't cast well is a fucking lie.
Elephant won Best Picture & Director at Cannes.
KOKPictures 2 years ago
yeah this is true =) what film was sean penn in by him do you know?
ReppinLondonLondon 2 years ago
Sean Penn won Best Actor at the Oscars for it at the last Academy Awards - Milk. It's one of the best films of 2008, by far.
KOKPictures 2 years ago
thanks i'll have to see if i can watch it lol =)
ReppinLondonLondon 2 years ago
No problem, you should see it for sure. It's an amazing film. Sean Penn is one of they best actors around today.
KOKPictures 2 years ago
yeah i'll see if i can find it somewhere. the only thing i saw him in was an episode of friends he was funny in that
ReppinLondonLondon 2 years ago
Sean Penn has won two Oscars both for Best Lead Actor. You should see
Milk
Mystic River
Into the Wild (writer/director)
I Am Sam
Carlito's Way
Dead Man Walking
There are many more as well.
KOKPictures 2 years ago
ok well i've seen mystic river I have it on dvd =) i thought it was pretty good lol
ReppinLondonLondon 2 years ago
IMO, I think the use of unknown people in Elephant is more artistic than lazy, because it was his intension to use underage teenagers to give it a more realistic feeling to it. Though, the actors aren't the main thing about this movie. It's about the beautiful order of scenes and the story-telling on a diffrent way (e.g. repeated scenes from diffrent angles). Also, the special focus and close-up on the characters, filming from above, subtle actions, ... So I thought this movie was wonderful.
Phantrax 2 years ago 2
OH AND ALSO U HAVE NO IDEA WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT obviously he knows what he's doing because otherwise the movie wouldn't have been made u dumbass so shut up (soz bout the comment to the rest of you but i do not like this boy)
ReppinLondonLondon 2 years ago
its a good movie but DAMN YOUR ANNOYING!!!
ReppinLondonLondon 2 years ago
There is a differnce between normal kids and making things seem natural as day to day from kids who TRY to act, making it seem corny or cliche in some cases.
Idk, if I want to see this movie yet...we'll see....
XXsavieXX 2 years ago
and actually it makes since if you know about guns with every pack of ammo there is one blank the kid tht went to the door got shot with the blank tht is y there was no intry wound blanks still hurt but they only leave large bruises and are known to make someone go unconsiuos he possibly died from tht becuse i think he got shot in the heart area it probably made him have a heart att from tht while he was blacked out. tht is the only reason the teacher said wake-up but your rite the movie=strange
m4j0rpk3r4lif3 2 years ago
the director choose random kids because they dont know how to act so they just act normal so it does make a good actor becuse they are so naturaul..he did the long walk shots becuse it keeps you wondering what will happen in the next scene hope tht brings new ideas too you :)
m4j0rpk3r4lif3 2 years ago 2
hahah lmao eric is a chode ur fuckin annoying haha
losdodgers760 2 years ago
i thought this movie was awesome because it seemed even beyond realistic, and it was really disturbing & i thought the way it was shot as if someone was taking a regular camera and shooting everything on the fly was a genius move but mostly i liked the ending way better then the entire movie which really says something but it was like nothing was being held back and i liked that, i'd give it a 4/5 for creativity.
tiesarefun 2 years ago
fucking jesus christ you have the most annoying voice.
ilovestdsandcereal 2 years ago 2
I love this movie. I understand what you mean about the actors though. This movie made me cry. And its the only movie that has ever made me cry. I do love the improv, though. Nice review though.
10tlewis 2 years ago
Eric,what kind of camera do you use?
Adiorocks949 2 years ago
Thee and I'm not exagarating thee shittist
Movie I've ever seen I can't stad it and fail to see 1 good point about it!
gillygilligan 2 years ago
You, my friend are one of the worst movie reviewers. . . .ever. And Your the lazy one, do some research bud. You thought the movie was annoying try listening to 8 minutes of you reviewing :)
Craigo89o 2 years ago
This movie was about the Columbine High School incident in 1999 it's not JUST a movie he just wanted to make..
ematj 2 years ago 4
its about the columbine shooting. dumbass. not some random movie. shit head. he didnt improve, and those kids were trying to portray the real kids, so shut the fuck up, douche bag. your lazy. (:
piratematt69 2 years ago 6
this was only loosely based on the columbine high school. i believe that the reason why we arent given any insight in the characters personal life, is to promote the idea of this being probable in everybody's environment.
mehdinadif 2 years ago
Even though it wasn't anything like the Columbine shooting. The kids were nothing like the real killers during Columbine.
Theakker3 2 years ago
They act better than you, Erick mate. Jealousy really ain't the way to go.
hellosomedude2 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Just watched the movie. HAhahahaha it really isn't worth it.
I think the reason why the blonde guy didn't call the police is because he's friends with the perpetrators (according to wikipedia).
hellosomedude2 2 years ago
this guy would like 2001 lol jk
HDRandomShow 2 years ago
I don't really know what to say. I, myself, am into Film and video editing and this movie was recommended to me by a friend. I downloaded the movie and watched it and I have to agree with you on how the timeline isn't linear. I liked that, like in the movie vantage point. However, I wouldn't be so quick to criticize some of the acting. I'm assuming even the amateur acting was well thought. I'm not sure what I would do when faced with that situation. And the blonde kid didn't have anyway to call.
FHSTVAshes 2 years ago 4
they're not called "walking shots" ...they're called "tracking shots" and um i think he put them in there because in the video game that the killers play
they only see the backs of the figures they shoot. Gus was trying to make you view the school as the killers see it.
and obviously it worked...because you don't have any emotion towards any of the students. i didn';t find the movie amazing. but its not bad. don't over think the acting. i don't think the acting is the most important part.
moldymoldy 2 years ago
He used to not use good actors....until MILK. I mean, Sean Penn, James Franco, Josh Brolin...
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MattRothisTheFuture 2 years ago
In my opinion i thought the film was great and i thought the actors did great too and if they were have put actors with big names i think the movie wouldn't have unique because i think this movie is unique and i think that the whole point of putting scenes where the actors don't say anything but just walk was probaly just to add suspense
silverbubbles57 2 years ago
O.k. i want to say that i thought the acting was great in Elephant, i think improv was a good technique to use to capture real high school conversations. And also, the thing about how no one did anything about the shooters, the title refers to "the elephant in the room" where there's this huge oblivious secret but no one acts or is too afraid to act on it. In my opinion I thought Elephant was good but you did point out this that I didn't notice before like the Benny thing.
P.S. MY NAME'S ERIC!
ericdale123 2 years ago
P.S.S. I also liked the long walking scenes, to me it built up the suspense... but it did kind of drag out in some places.
ericdale123 2 years ago
I don't know a lot about Van Sant., but I liked the film for what it was. I thought the kids did a good job acting and I applaud them for that. I'm a father w/ a son in middle school and this film as well as Columbine left a long lasting impression on me as what could and has been happening in schools across the country and I know it's not if but when it will happen again. The blonde kid was right, there are more of them out there just like him.
warmachine167 2 years ago
I agree the long walking scenes got annoying
but i dont think the acting was too bad. I thought it made it seem more real.
and yeah, that scene where the gay-straight allance kid gets shot, and no one does anything, was confusing, same with Benny getting shot.
and with the blond kid telling ppl not to go in, i thought he just didnt call the cops cause he wasnt sure what was happening, so he just told ppl not to go in just in case, you know?
themaskedolive 2 years ago
I enjoyed elephant, yet i also enjoyed your review. you didn't just bash it mercilessly, and you looked at the opposing side. good stuff, sir :)
greatrayray 2 years ago
its actually a pretty film the way Van Sant shot it and having unknown actors is good in this film as the film is realistic and gritty.what do you want?miley cyrus in this film?or maybe the jonas brothers?your some joke of a man,havent a clue do you?typical dumb american who likes all these shit hollywood nonsense and cant accept a good independant fim...
RudiWeinhold 2 years ago
Typical dumb American huh?
At least I can form a paragraph; they're called 'spaces', try using them, bud!
Oh and this movie blew.
ErickWithNoK 2 years ago
oh and.. Long scenes and limited camera angles in movies used to piss me off, but then I realised thats because they contradict what you're used to. If a movie is taking me to a place outside my comfort zone of what I expect (genre) and leave me frustrated etc. I don't say "that's a movie I don't like". I ask what about it is taking me out of my comfort zone? and rethink my values and expectations
Natendowazhere 2 years ago
On your comments on the long shots...
My film studies professor briefly mentioned this movie in a lecture about genre.
Van sant difers from a lot of contemporary directors in his deviance from current editing trends. Scenes in movies have gradually become shorter and shorter. Traditionally scenes were between 10-14 seconds on average. Now they're usually between 7-8 seconds long.
Natendowazhere 2 years ago
Err you obv. found it important enough to tap me backk :L Silly little boy.
& Actually your eyebrows have ALLOT to do with this video, cos tbh i cant see your bloody face they are so bushy :L And me a loser?
Atleast i dont go round tapping shit on youtube about one of the best artists in the world. I know a beautician, she can do your eyebrows for free (Y)
Lalalalornaa 2 years ago
I apologize but I don't respect your opinion at all :/
PS. If you think that Van Sant is the best artist in the world, don't bother ever watching one of my videos ever again. I don't want someone like you watching them.
ErickWithNoK 2 years ago
Get your eyebrows waxed & watch it with an open mind. Just because there is no one having sex or steaing someones girlfriend like in other high school movies, does not mean the actors cannot act. It is supposed to be slow, its a piece of art, so you need to wait for the big finish! Gus is basically painting a picture, yeah pretty boring, but at the end of it.. There is a piece of art!
Lalalalornaa 2 years ago
What do my eyebrows have to do with anything?
I didn't read any more after the first sentence because of that, way to gain respect loser.
ErickWithNoK 2 years ago
lol, "watch it with an open mind" when in the same sentence they attempt to insult you thinking that in some way adds their argument.
PhaseFavor 2 years ago
Yeah well people who thought Elephant was good think they're smart. They don't realize that they're just trying to be cool by saying Elephant was a good movie. Nope nope nope! :D
ErickWithNoK 2 years ago
why do u call everyone a loser... it just shows u must be one too. your not a gangsta cos u can say bad stuff about someone elsews succes so get a life
ReppinLondonLondon 2 years ago
i totally agree with everything you said!
i watched it and i felt like clawing my eyes out afterward!! it wasn't set out very well at all!
Xocrazee 2 years ago
If you want to see a good movie based on school shootings, I suggest that you watch Zero Day. I loved it personally.
MsSaturday2322 2 years ago
Could you tell me why the movie is called elephant?? I didn´t get it, and is this movie related to the massacre at columbine???
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