this is a drop in the ocean compared to what the bankers/social elite do to us, but they wear nice suits and aren't outwardly violent, so that's OK then I guess. I don't agree with this behaviour, but it should make us focus on the real villains, the ones out of the public eye....they manipulate us and make us fight amongst ourselves, it's easier for them to hide that way. And as Charles Manson once said 'society creates the monster it deserves'.
The footage of the bus burning. On this post it's around 2:02-2:06. There are numerous posts showing this incident. It's odd. The burning bus is a Hazard to both human life and property. Yet, there is a mob of people millinng around the bus. I would think that s**t is hot. And .. there is no attmept to extinguish the fire. And why are the shield cops covered from tippy toe to top of the hair on his head outfits? Full on Combat boots & Survival Gloves? I would think agility is needed during riots
tbh people rush to blame one type of person e.g teachers parents etc.... my generation are a so called "degenerate generation" because of some cunts that there are in my generation... we are all products of our enviroment, some say it is the government some say it is our parents some say it is schooling.. its a mixture of all that and much much more, people rush to find somebody to blame when in reality none of the extraneous variables have been considered. its even worse amound teens nowadays.
@RJSNew we are all stupid and blind to the fact that every action has a consequence to the same proportions of the original action, i think i speak for everyone in my generation (unless you are white and middle class) when i say fuck the system. get a grip on your mind and your soul and your morale judgement and maybe times will be better, stop focussing on the negative aspects of your day and more on the positive aspects of your day.
i heard that there was a 12 year old kid who was carrying a hammer around london and when the police took him to his mum she said it was for self defence... i tell you what you silly cow, how would you like to see the fotage of you little pumpkin robbing a corner shop!
@bl0xta really i think this is worthy of consideration and independent investigation.They played the population exactly with the same strategy during the Thatcher years with riots all over the UK which brought in new laws in preparation for all the protests against the pit closures.
@TyroneSandalphon Unbeleivable!.....yes I suppose you can say these riots were going to happen at some point due to cuts, recession etc etc but for a government conspiracy??....can you honestly imagine Cameron and co sitting in their bunker underneath Whitehall conducting this whole thing up?, don't get me wrong I am no fan of any politician but for them to plan somehting on such a massive scale is just obsurd...and lets face it they cannot even run the country when things are going right lol
Do you honestly think Cameron runs the show? He is just there to put a face on it...like Obama in the US...all for show but they follow orders from the same people that Bush and Blair did. This is far bigger than any one of these people.
Who murdered the 3 asian men in Birmingham? Why wont they release the CCTV footage of the the car?
Research it and try and find a believable answer. Mainstream media is not your friend.
@TyroneSandalphon In regards to the main stream media I agree, but I just cannot get my head around why the government would go to all the trouble of killing the three innocent men, and please by all means send me some links to the conspiracies as I am all into looking and that kind of stuff, albeit find most of it hard to beleive. The riots cost the government millions, why would they want to bring that cost on themselves and also attract bad press from the international community?
@bl0xta "why the government would go to all the trouble of killing the three innocent men" a great question indeed!
Just before the murder, at the height of the rampaging with full mainstream media (MM) coverage, some smaller stories started to surface from both independent and MM live reporters stating that people were organising to defend their neighbourhoods from looters and rioters.
@TyroneSandalphon Now my stance is that the riots were encouraged to happen by agencies operating within the UK government so when the news got out that people were uniting and making a stance against it BAM! The 3 men were murdered in the hope of further incitement for violent retaliation and to scare people from making any further stands against the rioters. It was done for psychological effect. The powers that be know people are waking up to the War on terror being a fraud
@TyroneSandalphon The powers that be know people are waking up to the War on terror being a fraud and the international Banking scam and are using this to scare and divide society as well as bring in new powers of control. The "Occupy" protests are just the start and they are getting ready to snuff it out as soon as it tries to build up momentum.
@TyroneSandalphon It is to the credit to the decent people of this country and just law enforcement how this murder was handled by the victims families and communities but so much more needs to be looked at to find out what is really going on.
I would start by looking into london 7/7 and 911 truth movement as all the pieces of the jigsaw are there.
DEPORT THESE LOW LIFE JAMAICAN SOMALIAN AND AFRICAN SHIT CUNTS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY NOW. PEOPLE LIKE THIS HAVE NO PLACE HERE. ENGLAND WELCOMES PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE . THEY ARE SHITTY SHIT CUNTS
Outragious! Hundreds have given their lives over the years fighting to safeguard our country & now its occupants are ballsing it up all by themselves! Is this the result of our "fear of discipline" age? Eggshelling around discipline in schools is what's to blame where teachers arent equipped to teach right from wrong and cant even stand a child in the corner! These are the "kids" resulting from this! No respect. Well done Government for pussy-footing around for the last 10 years!
@ShakespearesChin Thanks for your comment. It may well be, time to start teaching kids right from wrong and responsibility again....and their parents !!!
@ShakespearesChin did you ever think that half the population that were causing the riots were foreign immigrants?? they not the people that defended the country, they're just filthy foreigners that come into our country. Send all the pakis home, and the polish and any other fucker.. Also, the lowlife gang members get abused by police and want revenge ect hence why they formed groups and caused riots.. Also notice how around 95% of the rioters were black... shows what black people are like..
@ShakespearesChin Maybe it's more to do with all the pillars of the community shagging little kids while saying "I'm in charge here, don't believe a word they say, or maybe it is all those cosy insider deals that suggest there is one standard of honesty for the rich, another for the poor, that have replaced all respect and belief in "Authority" with anger. Obedience may be ensured by violence, but respect can only be earned; and frankly, authority has screwed that bit up.
Yup...as well as the result of our benefit culture, lack of teaching national pride, and also a result opening our borders to everyone. It's all a knock on and interlinked. W
@ShakespearesChin do you hear the words you say, you my friend are ignorant to the fucked up corrupt world around you wake up and smell the gun powder.
If a looter ever comes into my house, I will break his/her legs, arms, ribs and fracture his/her skull. Because people are now allowed to KILL or SEVERELY INJURE looters or burglars! :-D
If the riots ever spread to the Crown Temple of London, the government will react as is necessary. I wanna see all the international banks, secret societies, and lawyer's guilds burn to the ground.
@Truthman23 rabble rabble 2nd amendment. that shit goes both ways brah.
Also, lazy kids? what do you call students who have 2 or 3 jobs trying to support their education while tuition is being hiked back to back? Also, what about the difficulty of finding jobs? you probably say "get a job" when there are none to get!
@hershe Newsflash "Brah", that's life. Things cost money. The whole world has spent more than they can maintain. Here in the U.S., the FED has become a spending machine. Education, Entitlements, even the true role of the Fed Gov in Military has to be cut. And if it works both ways, then The People will know who was justified in defending their property from stupid punk kids. The thing about pushing people "brah", is that eventually the good people push back. And you better pray it ends quickly.
@Truthman23 Things dont cost money, they cost labor-time. Money is just a mediator in the exchange of commodities. it is itself a commodity.
anyways.
All they money is being sucked up by the wealthy. They hardly lift a finger and in comes a few hundred thousand a year. Capitalists are sitting on loads of money while working and unemployed people in the US are going hungry. The whole crisis is a result of the capitalist system itself. it builds its own contradictions.
@hersheyguy The crisis is the result of Government meddling and not doing it's job. And people like you fall into the same socialist/communist mantra of class warfare. You keep knocking on people's door, your gonna get a answer and not like it. Try to take hard working people's money, you'll get what you deserve.
@Truthman23 Trak taking hard working peoples money? incase you didint realize this, but communists are the ones fighting to get hard working people better working conditions and wages. nit wit. or by hard working do you mean bankers and people who fondle dollar bills and nothing else?
Hard working people are being robbed when an owner can make a profit off of their labor.
@hersheyguy From what I've been seeing, the students are the ones getting robbed, beaten, and forced to strip naked. I hope the police come down hard on these punks. Make an example of a few of them.
@InternetDisciple What gives a person the right to take the money generated by someone elses labor for their own benefit? "oh but they signed a contract"
contracts dont make things just. workers can get along just fine without an owner. workers collectively took over factories in Argentina and operated them quite successfully.
I prefer socialism. fuck capitalism. It is a rotting system. It over produces useless things and only meant to serve the interests of property owners
@InternetDisciple Yes, from each according to ability, to each according to need. Give what you can, get what you need.
Workers built the factories, made the commodities, and moved the commodities that the capitalists own control and reap profit from. Its only logical that workers have the right to control it.
@InternetDisciple Two pairs of footwear. a pair of dress shoes for work (retail) and a pair of boots for all other occasions. both under $25. had them both for about 6 months now.
"is it their money or your money"
nice semantics. let me put it another way. My work has gone into moving a commodity. I am directly involved in the exchange of one commodity for another. money. I (and thousands of others in the same company) do the work that they make money off of. Its only theirs because law says so
@H It's been tried over and over and over again. These systems do not work. And there are people in Africa and Asia that need a pair of footwear. Let alone 2.You obviously have access to a computer, already ahead of most people in this world. Maybe you should sell it and give the money to people that need more, you seem to have more than enough to survive. You have a mental disorder. You want to start taking from other people, but don't want to give up your own excesses.It's always that way LOL.
@T Yet Cuba is still going strong. Even in the shadows of a US blockade/embargo and global recession they still strain doctors from all over the world for free (in exchange for medical service for a period of time around the world) and still provide free education and are still able to manage food for all people in Cuba.
My excesses? ive had this computer for 4 years and i run my shoes until they have holes in them. i have a pair of work clothes and some non-work clothes. excess? im broke.
@h Cuba?? HAHA. Wow. Thanks for the hearty laugh. Castro has admitted it failed. "“The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore,” the aging dictator told Jeffrey Goldberg, a national correspondent for The Atlantic magazine, when Goldberg asked if Cuba’s economic system was still worth exporting to other countries."- Boston Herald. I mean, since all those Americans are trying to swim across the Atlantic to Cuba because they have such a medical service .Oh wait, it's the other way around. LMAO
@h If you don't know by now Cuba sucks and people risk their lives everyday to leave that country, there is no hope for you.And yes,your excesses.Billions of people don't own a computer in this world.Many people are starving to death.Why don't you practice what you preach and sell your computer, cell phone,car if you have one, and anything else of value that you don't need to survive.If you don't think if Communism was applied on a Global Scale your wealth would not be redistributed, think again
@T goddamn you are an idiot. People leave the US too. shocking! i know people who have been to Cuba several times and spoke about the pride and energy they put into their work in cuba to make the place livable in the face of the US.
As for starving. the action of one will not change anything. only the destruction of capitalism and imperialism will truly help the people of africa. Charity is a farce, socialism is not. And wealth redistribution means collective control over the means of production
@h it's always interesting to see the U.S. citizens criticize their own country and not have the balls to leave it for the great nations of Cuba and North Korea. People like you are dangerous, and is why we have a 2nd amendment. If Capitalism was so bad, why would China and India inject Capitalism into their society?(and now benefit from it). I've talked to people about the horrors of Cuba. And if you want to continue down the road of forced redistribution, be prepared for your worst nightmare.
@Truthman23 Because the heart of world imperialism and capitalist must have a stake driven through it. im not leaving unless im exiled. As for china, The right wing of the CCP won out and instituted a fucked up verion of the NEP and was bullied into allying with the US against the USSR.
@her Stake driven through it? Sounds like you've been watching way too many vampire flicks. Capitalism equals freedom. More people are free in China due to it. I know it sucks for you that Socialism and Communism always leads to destruction both economically and in civil liberties. Capitalism doesn't need to pick up a "stake" it order to destroy your utopia of evil, it collapses under itself. HAHA, the 2nd Amendment is a last resort. But one side cherishes and practices it, another side doesn't.
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karezza6 2 days ago
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ILAN2187 5 days ago
this is a drop in the ocean compared to what the bankers/social elite do to us, but they wear nice suits and aren't outwardly violent, so that's OK then I guess. I don't agree with this behaviour, but it should make us focus on the real villains, the ones out of the public eye....they manipulate us and make us fight amongst ourselves, it's easier for them to hide that way. And as Charles Manson once said 'society creates the monster it deserves'.
petepassion 5 days ago
The footage of the bus burning. On this post it's around 2:02-2:06. There are numerous posts showing this incident. It's odd. The burning bus is a Hazard to both human life and property. Yet, there is a mob of people millinng around the bus. I would think that s**t is hot. And .. there is no attmept to extinguish the fire. And why are the shield cops covered from tippy toe to top of the hair on his head outfits? Full on Combat boots & Survival Gloves? I would think agility is needed during riots
ELRosas13 1 week ago
tbh people rush to blame one type of person e.g teachers parents etc.... my generation are a so called "degenerate generation" because of some cunts that there are in my generation... we are all products of our enviroment, some say it is the government some say it is our parents some say it is schooling.. its a mixture of all that and much much more, people rush to find somebody to blame when in reality none of the extraneous variables have been considered. its even worse amound teens nowadays.
RJSNew 3 weeks ago
@RJSNew we are all stupid and blind to the fact that every action has a consequence to the same proportions of the original action, i think i speak for everyone in my generation (unless you are white and middle class) when i say fuck the system. get a grip on your mind and your soul and your morale judgement and maybe times will be better, stop focussing on the negative aspects of your day and more on the positive aspects of your day.
RJSNew 3 weeks ago
Fuck the City of Londonistan
erickooy 3 weeks ago
i heard that there was a 12 year old kid who was carrying a hammer around london and when the police took him to his mum she said it was for self defence... i tell you what you silly cow, how would you like to see the fotage of you little pumpkin robbing a corner shop!
HoodedSentinel 1 month ago
peacefull protests are the way to go. not looting and robbery this is only gonna make the government tighten dwn more on us.
frankikills 1 month ago
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We need the police on our side!
By causing violence, we are only building hatred against us.
The police are our family, our protectors, we must help them realise this.
They are being used as systematic tools against us, yet they are us.
We must show them that we love them.
parkourDrew4745619 2 months ago
Untill discipline is brought to the youth of this country and kids are taught right from wrong.
Oddball9691 3 months ago
this will happen again and again...
Lirafoli 3 months ago
can anyone tell me who did this? its confusing
lbagra 3 months ago
@lbagra YOUR MOTHER!!!!.
TLJAWSIMIB 1 month ago
@TLJAWSIMIB How old are you, 4?
MandiFoxall 1 month ago
@MandiFoxall NO!. HOW OLD ARE YOU!?. HUH!?. PUNKASS!!!.
TLJAWSIMIB 1 month ago
@TLJAWSIMIB Old enough to know that you're just a faggot
MandiFoxall 1 month ago
@MandiFoxall WHATEVER!!!!.
TLJAWSIMIB 1 month ago
Eye for a Eye!!!!!!!
edzozx 3 months ago
Does no one find the orchestration of these riots at little too well planned. Were they "encouraged to happen" by political forces?
The riots were "encouraged" to happen as well as the burning of buildings without fire services being allowed to attend immediately to fires.
There is now suspicion of " special forces" agents murdering 3 people in Birmingham in a "false flag / agent provocateur attack.
All done in anticipation to curb "Occupy " sit in demonstrations around the country
TyroneSandalphon 4 months ago
@TyroneSandalphon lol, you can always count on the good old conspiracy theories eh??....oh have diana and elvis tied the knot yet? lol
bl0xta 4 months ago
@bl0xta really i think this is worthy of consideration and independent investigation.They played the population exactly with the same strategy during the Thatcher years with riots all over the UK which brought in new laws in preparation for all the protests against the pit closures.
TyroneSandalphon 4 months ago
@TyroneSandalphon Unbeleivable!.....yes I suppose you can say these riots were going to happen at some point due to cuts, recession etc etc but for a government conspiracy??....can you honestly imagine Cameron and co sitting in their bunker underneath Whitehall conducting this whole thing up?, don't get me wrong I am no fan of any politician but for them to plan somehting on such a massive scale is just obsurd...and lets face it they cannot even run the country when things are going right lol
bl0xta 4 months ago
@bl0xta
Do you honestly think Cameron runs the show? He is just there to put a face on it...like Obama in the US...all for show but they follow orders from the same people that Bush and Blair did. This is far bigger than any one of these people.
Who murdered the 3 asian men in Birmingham? Why wont they release the CCTV footage of the the car?
Research it and try and find a believable answer. Mainstream media is not your friend.
TyroneSandalphon 4 months ago
@TyroneSandalphon In regards to the main stream media I agree, but I just cannot get my head around why the government would go to all the trouble of killing the three innocent men, and please by all means send me some links to the conspiracies as I am all into looking and that kind of stuff, albeit find most of it hard to beleive. The riots cost the government millions, why would they want to bring that cost on themselves and also attract bad press from the international community?
bl0xta 4 months ago
@bl0xta "why the government would go to all the trouble of killing the three innocent men" a great question indeed!
Just before the murder, at the height of the rampaging with full mainstream media (MM) coverage, some smaller stories started to surface from both independent and MM live reporters stating that people were organising to defend their neighbourhoods from looters and rioters.
TyroneSandalphon 4 months ago
@TyroneSandalphon Now my stance is that the riots were encouraged to happen by agencies operating within the UK government so when the news got out that people were uniting and making a stance against it BAM! The 3 men were murdered in the hope of further incitement for violent retaliation and to scare people from making any further stands against the rioters. It was done for psychological effect. The powers that be know people are waking up to the War on terror being a fraud
TyroneSandalphon 4 months ago
@TyroneSandalphon The powers that be know people are waking up to the War on terror being a fraud and the international Banking scam and are using this to scare and divide society as well as bring in new powers of control. The "Occupy" protests are just the start and they are getting ready to snuff it out as soon as it tries to build up momentum.
TyroneSandalphon 4 months ago
@TyroneSandalphon It is to the credit to the decent people of this country and just law enforcement how this murder was handled by the victims families and communities but so much more needs to be looked at to find out what is really going on.
I would start by looking into london 7/7 and 911 truth movement as all the pieces of the jigsaw are there.
good luck
TyroneSandalphon 4 months ago
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In my opinion..All blacks are terrorists...
XMasterDragon 4 months ago
DEPORT THESE LOW LIFE JAMAICAN SOMALIAN AND AFRICAN SHIT CUNTS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY NOW. PEOPLE LIKE THIS HAVE NO PLACE HERE. ENGLAND WELCOMES PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE . THEY ARE SHITTY SHIT CUNTS
stuart200sx1980 6 months ago
it will be afganistan sooon
mubashirgulabkhan 6 months ago
Very nice pictures !
marabbeh 6 months ago
where is the Matafookin Britih SAS?!!
semfeesher 6 months ago
Where is the British Army when needed? Send all the yobs out to the Simpson desert Give them a tent and a box of matches!
afaith1940 6 months ago
What a filthy pieces of Sh*t those rioters are! Disgusting! I can only hope Karma kicks their butts but good!
kymmadden 6 months ago
Outragious! Hundreds have given their lives over the years fighting to safeguard our country & now its occupants are ballsing it up all by themselves! Is this the result of our "fear of discipline" age? Eggshelling around discipline in schools is what's to blame where teachers arent equipped to teach right from wrong and cant even stand a child in the corner! These are the "kids" resulting from this! No respect. Well done Government for pussy-footing around for the last 10 years!
ShakespearesChin 6 months ago 16
@ShakespearesChin Thanks for your comment. It may well be, time to start teaching kids right from wrong and responsibility again....and their parents !!!
GrooverErn 6 months ago 3
@ShakespearesChin did you ever think that half the population that were causing the riots were foreign immigrants?? they not the people that defended the country, they're just filthy foreigners that come into our country. Send all the pakis home, and the polish and any other fucker.. Also, the lowlife gang members get abused by police and want revenge ect hence why they formed groups and caused riots.. Also notice how around 95% of the rioters were black... shows what black people are like..
jad2026 4 months ago
@ShakespearesChin Maybe it's more to do with all the pillars of the community shagging little kids while saying "I'm in charge here, don't believe a word they say, or maybe it is all those cosy insider deals that suggest there is one standard of honesty for the rich, another for the poor, that have replaced all respect and belief in "Authority" with anger. Obedience may be ensured by violence, but respect can only be earned; and frankly, authority has screwed that bit up.
HollyLimbo 1 month ago
@ShakespearesChin "Is this the result of our "fear of discipline" "
Yup...as well as the result of our benefit culture, lack of teaching national pride, and also a result opening our borders to everyone. It's all a knock on and interlinked. W
v8cool1 2 weeks ago
@ShakespearesChin . It's all about this sodding government trying to be PC all the time, and trying to look like the international nice guy.
v8cool1 2 weeks ago
@ShakespearesChin do you hear the words you say, you my friend are ignorant to the fucked up corrupt world around you wake up and smell the gun powder.
X4chanx 1 week ago
If a looter ever comes into my house, I will break his/her legs, arms, ribs and fracture his/her skull. Because people are now allowed to KILL or SEVERELY INJURE looters or burglars! :-D
EvilApeProductions 6 months ago
good
nnasser007 6 months ago
If the riots ever spread to the Crown Temple of London, the government will react as is necessary. I wanna see all the international banks, secret societies, and lawyer's guilds burn to the ground.
DJKeebler808 6 months ago
Sorry...but music doesn't go with this film
2groomer 6 months ago
Are business owners not allowed to defend there place with a firearm?
Rgonzalez1341 6 months ago
@Rgonzalez1341 no gun ownership is illegal over there. Most of the the police except for swat don't even carry guns.
whil52394 6 months ago
Why are rioters covering their faces?
Is it because they are ashamed of what they are doing?
InternetDisciple 6 months ago
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hersheyguy 6 months ago
@hersheyguy
"no, its a good way to filter out smoke and not get caught you twit."
Why are you calling me names for asking questions?
Also, "get caught"? Are you saying that they know that they are doing something wrong and don't want to answer for it?
InternetDisciple 6 months ago
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hersheyguy 6 months ago
@InternetDisciple Of course its an offense to the state and they are goign to face the state. its fucking obvious isnt it?
Upper class wanker - "oh woe is me, my tesco got torched last night!"
Cameron - "no worry madam! were here to protect bourgeois property rights! to hell with their education and future, we need convenience!"
Beckites have this false sense of morality being the driving force of all things and that the status quo is what is eternally rightl.
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@hersheyguy Oh I wish they tried doing this in Texas. Lazy kids that want everything free.......... meet the 2nd Amendment. LOL.
Truthman23 6 months ago
@Truthman23 rabble rabble 2nd amendment. that shit goes both ways brah.
Also, lazy kids? what do you call students who have 2 or 3 jobs trying to support their education while tuition is being hiked back to back? Also, what about the difficulty of finding jobs? you probably say "get a job" when there are none to get!
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@hershe Newsflash "Brah", that's life. Things cost money. The whole world has spent more than they can maintain. Here in the U.S., the FED has become a spending machine. Education, Entitlements, even the true role of the Fed Gov in Military has to be cut. And if it works both ways, then The People will know who was justified in defending their property from stupid punk kids. The thing about pushing people "brah", is that eventually the good people push back. And you better pray it ends quickly.
Truthman23 6 months ago
@Truthman23 Things dont cost money, they cost labor-time. Money is just a mediator in the exchange of commodities. it is itself a commodity.
anyways.
All they money is being sucked up by the wealthy. They hardly lift a finger and in comes a few hundred thousand a year. Capitalists are sitting on loads of money while working and unemployed people in the US are going hungry. The whole crisis is a result of the capitalist system itself. it builds its own contradictions.
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@hersheyguy
"All the money is being sucked up by the wealthy."
Are you saying that you believe that your money is being stolen?
"Capitalists are sitting on loads of money..."
What business is it of yours what people do with their money?
"The whole crisis is a result of capitalist system itself."
I don't agree with your premise, but what system do you prefer?
InternetDisciple 6 months ago
@hersheyguy The crisis is the result of Government meddling and not doing it's job. And people like you fall into the same socialist/communist mantra of class warfare. You keep knocking on people's door, your gonna get a answer and not like it. Try to take hard working people's money, you'll get what you deserve.
Truthman23 6 months ago
@Truthman23 Trak taking hard working peoples money? incase you didint realize this, but communists are the ones fighting to get hard working people better working conditions and wages. nit wit. or by hard working do you mean bankers and people who fondle dollar bills and nothing else?
Hard working people are being robbed when an owner can make a profit off of their labor.
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@hersheyguy From what I've been seeing, the students are the ones getting robbed, beaten, and forced to strip naked. I hope the police come down hard on these punks. Make an example of a few of them.
jepst41 6 months ago
@hersheyguy
"Beckites have this false sense of morality being the driving force of all things..."
What is a beckite? Is that someone that feels that they can torch an innocent person's property and not have to answer for it?
InternetDisciple 6 months ago
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hersheyguy 6 months ago
@hersheyguy
I noticed that you failed to answer the other questions from that same post that I asked. I'll repost them for you, my friend.
"Capitalists are sitting on loads of money..."
What business is it of yours what people do with their money?
"The whole crisis is a result of capitalist system itself."
I don't agree with your premise, but what system do you prefer?
InternetDisciple 6 months ago
@InternetDisciple What gives a person the right to take the money generated by someone elses labor for their own benefit? "oh but they signed a contract"
contracts dont make things just. workers can get along just fine without an owner. workers collectively took over factories in Argentina and operated them quite successfully.
I prefer socialism. fuck capitalism. It is a rotting system. It over produces useless things and only meant to serve the interests of property owners
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@hersheyguy
"I prefer socialism."
Tell me, my friend, do you agree with the slogan: 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need'?
"What gives a person the right to take the money generated by..."
"Take"? You mean stealing? Nobody has the right to steal another person's money or property. (Or should have the right, anyway.)
Also, you failed again to answer my question: What business is it of yours what people do with their money?
InternetDisciple 6 months ago
@InternetDisciple Yes, from each according to ability, to each according to need. Give what you can, get what you need.
Workers built the factories, made the commodities, and moved the commodities that the capitalists own control and reap profit from. Its only logical that workers have the right to control it.
Its my business if its the money i made for them.
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@hersheyguy
"Yes, from each according to ability, to each according to need."
Tell me, my friend, how many pairs of shoes do you own?
"Its my business if its the money i made for them."
Wait. Is it their money or your money?
If you made money for them, then the money is where you want the money to be. Otherwise you would not do business with them, right?
"Workers built the factories,"
They were not paid an agreed upon amount?
InternetDisciple 6 months ago
@InternetDisciple Two pairs of footwear. a pair of dress shoes for work (retail) and a pair of boots for all other occasions. both under $25. had them both for about 6 months now.
"is it their money or your money"
nice semantics. let me put it another way. My work has gone into moving a commodity. I am directly involved in the exchange of one commodity for another. money. I (and thousands of others in the same company) do the work that they make money off of. Its only theirs because law says so
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@H It's been tried over and over and over again. These systems do not work. And there are people in Africa and Asia that need a pair of footwear. Let alone 2.You obviously have access to a computer, already ahead of most people in this world. Maybe you should sell it and give the money to people that need more, you seem to have more than enough to survive. You have a mental disorder. You want to start taking from other people, but don't want to give up your own excesses.It's always that way LOL.
Truthman23 6 months ago
@T Yet Cuba is still going strong. Even in the shadows of a US blockade/embargo and global recession they still strain doctors from all over the world for free (in exchange for medical service for a period of time around the world) and still provide free education and are still able to manage food for all people in Cuba.
My excesses? ive had this computer for 4 years and i run my shoes until they have holes in them. i have a pair of work clothes and some non-work clothes. excess? im broke.
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@h Cuba?? HAHA. Wow. Thanks for the hearty laugh. Castro has admitted it failed. "“The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore,” the aging dictator told Jeffrey Goldberg, a national correspondent for The Atlantic magazine, when Goldberg asked if Cuba’s economic system was still worth exporting to other countries."- Boston Herald. I mean, since all those Americans are trying to swim across the Atlantic to Cuba because they have such a medical service .Oh wait, it's the other way around. LMAO
Truthman23 6 months ago
@h If you don't know by now Cuba sucks and people risk their lives everyday to leave that country, there is no hope for you.And yes,your excesses.Billions of people don't own a computer in this world.Many people are starving to death.Why don't you practice what you preach and sell your computer, cell phone,car if you have one, and anything else of value that you don't need to survive.If you don't think if Communism was applied on a Global Scale your wealth would not be redistributed, think again
Truthman23 6 months ago
@T goddamn you are an idiot. People leave the US too. shocking! i know people who have been to Cuba several times and spoke about the pride and energy they put into their work in cuba to make the place livable in the face of the US.
As for starving. the action of one will not change anything. only the destruction of capitalism and imperialism will truly help the people of africa. Charity is a farce, socialism is not. And wealth redistribution means collective control over the means of production
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@h it's always interesting to see the U.S. citizens criticize their own country and not have the balls to leave it for the great nations of Cuba and North Korea. People like you are dangerous, and is why we have a 2nd amendment. If Capitalism was so bad, why would China and India inject Capitalism into their society?(and now benefit from it). I've talked to people about the horrors of Cuba. And if you want to continue down the road of forced redistribution, be prepared for your worst nightmare.
Truthman23 6 months ago
@Truthman23 Because the heart of world imperialism and capitalist must have a stake driven through it. im not leaving unless im exiled. As for china, The right wing of the CCP won out and instituted a fucked up verion of the NEP and was bullied into allying with the US against the USSR.
2nd Amendment goes both ways.
hersheyguy 6 months ago
@her Stake driven through it? Sounds like you've been watching way too many vampire flicks. Capitalism equals freedom. More people are free in China due to it. I know it sucks for you that Socialism and Communism always leads to destruction both economically and in civil liberties. Capitalism doesn't need to pick up a "stake" it order to destroy your utopia of evil, it collapses under itself. HAHA, the 2nd Amendment is a last resort. But one side cherishes and practices it, another side doesn't.
Truthman23 6 months ago
@InternetDisciple
GOOD response, man.
chewbaca1989 6 months ago
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@InternetDisciple a beckite is someone who listens to Glenn Beck's drivel and believes it
hersheyguy 6 months ago
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@InternetDisciple No, its not because they are 'ashamed.' Face covering helps to filter smoke and avoid being caught by the pigs
hersheyguy 6 months ago