I would not think this is a SS gun. While it is a BNZ. Not all BNZ rifles were exclusive to the SS. Missing numbers/acceptance stamps on bolt pieces, stock are common. Wartime reworks are missing many stamps, the later in the war, the less amount of time stamping. The best rule of thumb concerning Waffen SS items in general is to assume it's fake until proven otherwise. I could very well be wrong, but there is much room for doubt.
@RB6717 True, not all BNZ rifles are SS rifles. I can assure you however that this is an SS contract rifle. There are specific guidelines when classifying SS contract rifles, and this fits them to a T. In addition, I know of another verified SS contract 43 BNZ that is only a few serial numbers off my rifle.
Concerning the lack of serial numbers on parts of K98s late in the war is again true, but that also follows a specific pattern.
@RB6717 No rifles in 1943 EXCEPT SS contracts had un-numbered bands. It wasnt until late 1944 that some makers started to produce rifles with un-numbered bands. Some makers continued numbering bands until the end of the war.
Missing numbers and stamps are NOT common on rifles prior to late 1944. Even parts that were replaced by armorers were numbered to the rifle.
@RB6717 As I state in the video, qualifications for an SS contract rifle in 1943 are no heer acceptance on the stock, no letter suffix, un-numbered cocking piece, un-numbered gas shroud, un-numbered floorplate, and un-numbered bands. The receiver, triggerguard, rear sight base and leaf, bolt body, safety, and stock (internal) are the only pieces that should be numbered.
All non SS Contract 43 BNZs have all pieces numbered, letter suffixes, and acceptance stamps.
@lospettro1 The rifle was part of a contract for a specified number of rifles destined for the Waffen SS. Most K98s were made for the Heer (Army), Luftwaffe (Airforce), or Kriegsmarine (Navy).
personally, I would not want a rifle that possibly was used in atrocities, but I am sure there are many people who would prefer to own such a gun.
cythera431 1 week ago
Your rifle was made in a concentration camp by the labor workers in mathausen concentration camp. It does have alot of value.
starwarsraul13 3 months ago
I would not think this is a SS gun. While it is a BNZ. Not all BNZ rifles were exclusive to the SS. Missing numbers/acceptance stamps on bolt pieces, stock are common. Wartime reworks are missing many stamps, the later in the war, the less amount of time stamping. The best rule of thumb concerning Waffen SS items in general is to assume it's fake until proven otherwise. I could very well be wrong, but there is much room for doubt.
RB6717 4 months ago
@RB6717 True, not all BNZ rifles are SS rifles. I can assure you however that this is an SS contract rifle. There are specific guidelines when classifying SS contract rifles, and this fits them to a T. In addition, I know of another verified SS contract 43 BNZ that is only a few serial numbers off my rifle.
Concerning the lack of serial numbers on parts of K98s late in the war is again true, but that also follows a specific pattern.
MrBeswick 4 months ago
@RB6717 No rifles in 1943 EXCEPT SS contracts had un-numbered bands. It wasnt until late 1944 that some makers started to produce rifles with un-numbered bands. Some makers continued numbering bands until the end of the war.
Missing numbers and stamps are NOT common on rifles prior to late 1944. Even parts that were replaced by armorers were numbered to the rifle.
MrBeswick 4 months ago
@RB6717 As I state in the video, qualifications for an SS contract rifle in 1943 are no heer acceptance on the stock, no letter suffix, un-numbered cocking piece, un-numbered gas shroud, un-numbered floorplate, and un-numbered bands. The receiver, triggerguard, rear sight base and leaf, bolt body, safety, and stock (internal) are the only pieces that should be numbered.
All non SS Contract 43 BNZs have all pieces numbered, letter suffixes, and acceptance stamps.
MrBeswick 4 months ago
nice rifle.
VeeR666T 7 months ago
ss contract what does it mean ?
lospettro1 10 months ago
@lospettro1 The rifle was part of a contract for a specified number of rifles destined for the Waffen SS. Most K98s were made for the Heer (Army), Luftwaffe (Airforce), or Kriegsmarine (Navy).
MrBeswick 9 months ago
are the non contract standard issue kar98's blued because i have one and either the bluing wore off or it diddnt have any
codybrady100 10 months ago
@codybrady100 All K98 rifles have either a blued or phosphate finish. The phosphate finish did not start showing up until late 1944.
MrBeswick 10 months ago
@MrBeswick ok thanks for the info
codybrady100 10 months ago
SWEET rifle. Always wanted a steyr
locknloadvideo 1 year ago