It's nice seeing that Yukina could develop a good relationship with her new onee-san. It's sad that the relationship with her own blood onee-san has deteriorated. But what does she expect? She quit college while her younger sister is in Kyoto under vigorous training and all she's doing is buying more mascara. Yukina will become a geisha, an artist. What will she do?
A,a statement that goes on in the mind of everyone.Mostly Asian,I hate stereotypes but it's true.We;re constantly trying to top everyone,so we don't have to hear about that someone non-stop.To be honest,I love that it's true,though it can drive you mad.It's better than sitting on your bum and being told university is an option,I was shocked when I heard uni was just a choice.To me,it's a decision,whether I choose to go into that line of work or not.
@xjetsetxlifex for respect. Kneeling, bowing, something called kowtowing, all of those things are done because of respect. It shows teh client is far above her, and she's just serving him or her.
@xShadowxPhoenix They can, but the more likely case is that they make sure not to drink, because it's a pain to go to the bathroom when you're wearing the full geisha ensemble.
While they do have sips, they also just "wet their lips" / pretend to drink it. Me I can't drink even a sip with the meds I'm on. I feel like I do when I don't take them- ran over by a bus.
@yfset8 They are not only very hot at times depending on the weave, but stiff and heavy. A Maiko kimono with proper obi layers weighs about 8kg and some formal kimono as much as 15kg.
heck taking my heels off after a night out is hard enough can't imagine dealing with a whole kimono. Personally I lack the patience to do what these girls do. It seems like really hard work and requires a lot of dedication. Kudos to them!
So do most maiko/geiko not get married in the long run? Or do they only have relationships on the side? Sorry if this sounds rude or ignorant but I just thought of this after watching this section over again... If anyone knows please let me know.
@greeneyedmonster6 It's a mix. Those that retire from active Geisha work sometimes teach and others start a family. There is a higher percentage that don't ever get married than in the non-Geisha public.
Decades ago that single for life with or without sponsor percentage was higher than modern times.
@Ascended27 its called the split-peach hairstyle. traditional maiko hairstyle is like that because they want too look young and innocent. geisha, on the other hand, have this provocative hairstyle which is bunched up in the back like the lips of..you know.. and they tie the hair with a red swath of silk so that the inside really does look like ladyparts. im not kidding.
why do they hav to kneel down everytime they open or close those sliding doors? Formality? i don't see any practical reasons, unless it helps them make a habit of doing so when in actual formal circumstances.
@kiss9hug They bow and knel down all the time because in Japan its politie, remember that before the western was involved in Japan. The japanese always with few exeptions sat ont he floor while eating etc..
@attackofdameepits Not exacly recently! Kiuyus erikae was held on December 22 2009. many more maikos and geikos had theyre msiedashia nd erikae this year 2011 :)
It is A Bira Bira Kanzashi (Japanese hair ornament). They wear 2 on their mishidashi or debut and one afterwords. They are for sale on rakiten and sometimes on eBay, you could also try Yahoo Japan Auctions and bid using Jauce.com
Am I the only one that can relate to Misato? Or do others feel a bit like her too? You see in 'Dawn Porters Geisha girl' that Yukina really has adapted well as a Maiko, you only see a quick glimpse of her, but she looks like she's doing well ^^
The contrast between the garish, Walmart culture of her elder sister and Yukina's profoundly elegant way of life is jarring. Yukina is preserving the flower of Japanese culture and its art forms while the sister is rummaging through the cosmetics counter at the mall.
@MalonEisaiMalakas what would annoy me the most is those pillows they have to sleep on would really hurt my neck. (I can barely stand the sink when I get my hair done). and I am not sure I could rember all the dance moves (I can be very forgetful.
Yukina is such a mature and helpful girl! She sounds very courageous as well, since I wouldn't be able to stay away from my parents for that length of time - and to deal with the loneliness takes a lot. I really do admire her :)
I really admire Yukina's inner strength and courage! Not being able to contact home for that long must have been so tough, especially at 15! Working hard all of the time while also being very lonely a lot. I really look up to her! :)
I'd LOVE to leave for Japan and become a maiko (later geiko), and I'd left for Japan right NOW, If it wasn't for the fact that I'm a blonde, short haired, norvegian girl, though I have rather asian looking eyes... At least compared to other norvegians...
Her "older sister" is really pretty!Hmmm...I wonder if the girl is actually looking forward to getting her giesha medal!Who wants to have a bald spot!?
@rokpain, they are no different then doctors or lawyers in that sense. They work, study hard to be what they want to be. Also, geisha do not have sex. It is unusual to find a non-virgin geisha. They are not even allowed to kiss when they go out to tea houses. So I don't get your point really...everyone has to go through training to become what they want to be, so does that make everyone a prostitute? Even if they are virgins. Um yea...you make no sense.
@WillyyyV My impression was that technically, while the geisha do live in the geisha house, they do eventually earn a portion of their own income and they are allowed to date (and in extension, have sex, as a personal matter-not as part of their work). The issue of dating seems to revolve around lack of time, as they are always training and working.
misato (kukino's sis) is SO much more beautiful, and her eyes are blue, which adds to that, because its uncommon for blue eyes in japan. she would be a good geisha maybe....
@LOGOMag lol are you stupid, it's called contact lenses. they might even be circle lenses, which are supposed to make your eyes appear larger. they are usually coloured and very popular in east asian countries.
@MsPrittstick No, she wasn't aloud to bring anything in the process of becoming a Geisha. Not even her phone or stuff she just comes and then she starts wearing the Kimono which is first worn when she is done training.
I can't believe they spelled it "saki" instead of "sake"!!! It's sah-keh, not sah-kee! Oh well. It's nice to watch the geiko Kikuyu-san's transformation! Kikutsuru is the geiko I know best from the Hanafusa Okiya.
really? how could they not like it XD but im in the same boat. not alot of black people seem to share the enthusiasm i have for everything japanese lol but yes u are not alone!
I love how she kneels to close the door, then stands again. I've tried kneeling and standing the way she does, but it's way harder than it looks! Then again, I'm not as thin as her, so I've got a lot of person to move! XD
Gah this is so beautiful! I wish Western culture had something where girls could dress in traditional gowns. The loss of culture is devastating, especially when foreign cultures try to adapt to Western culture. I like the differences in culture!
@literaturechick12 Hey you can still see alot of culture in the west! Look at all the beautiful artists, fashion, buildings, music (i don't mean most music today lol) I am from britain and i'm so proud of europe, Italy, france, all amazing places with so much history. It's sad that most people don't take interest in their own culture though, in japan people are obsessed with europe and america hopefully their traditions wont die out. People often just love the opposite that's the problem :))
@literaturechick12 i think we do....it's called the Amish lolz....but i know what you mean...i wish it was a normal sight in the US to see women dressed in traditional victorian gowns and men with top hats and ruffled shirts xD
@literaturechick12 Young people in the west can partake of the Koryu that develops Echiketto and Iki at age 13 if they are willing to commit to the structure of serious training, but Maiko / Geiko are specific to Kyoto and the Geisha traditions of other areas in Japan.
However, I find very few western young people willing to accept the disciplines of training. Very few indeed.
@literaturechick12 It is possible for western young people to take training in the Koryu that helps develop Echiketto and Iki, but few are willing to accept the serious commitment and long-term required to excel.
I am approached at times by some willing to learn for short periods usually 5 years or less.
@saphiredewdrop True koryu arts are not westernized and one must travel to the source of training in Japan for most Koryu. The decision is not the students.
The student must be accepted by the sensei or house mother depending on the koryu structure.
Why do Asian girls dye their hair? It is sleeky and shiney black in a way none of us in the Western World could ever have....I think it takes away from their beauty when they dye it.
@no1zgrl4eva -lol..do u have something against asian girls? u keep posting the same question "why do asian girls dye their hair? everytime. weird..i wonder why.
Oh no, the opposite, I think Asian women have absolutely stunning shiney black hair and it is a shame to dye it. Re read my comments before you accuse me of racism, I am COMPLIMENTING them.
i didn't accuse you of racism..i ASKED you if u had anything...ASK not ACCUSED> there's a difference. .i understand that u're asking a question but seriously this isn't the first time...in the video before, you asked the same question and a handful of people commented back but still you keep asking the exact same question..that just seemed weird. that's all.
@no1zgrl4eva as they say, "the grass is always greener on the other side". Some Americas envy Japanese hair, so why is it hard to imagine that Japanese want hair different from everyone else in their country? People always want what they don't have. If you're light skinned- you tan. If you have wavy hair, you straighten it- etc.
$10 000 for a single kimono, and a Maiko needs 40 in her wardrobe. That's..I can't even process that amount of money. Surely the cloth and labour that goes into them doesn't amount to $10 000.
The fabric, the craftsmanship, the design, if its made by hand or original, then the labor... yes, a kimono can top a high price.
Many Hollywood movie stars have clothing not nearly as complicated for five times that amount, but do you blink? Jennifer Aniston has spent that much on a haircut.
Don't knock the profession and tradition just because you don't get why they do it.
Well, $10,000 is the cost of super formal hikizuri, like for misedashi. The average hikizuri is more like $5,000, and the obi are about $5,000 each too. Everything is hand painted, it's literally a couture garment, very special and one-of-a-kind.
The obi SHOULD cost more since they are individually woven like tapestries, but designs are often used over and over, so they aren't as unique.
I think they may even be a little more expensive than that these days! I have a furisode magazine from when I was in Japan and the most expensive one it is was $13,000! I would think a maiko hikizuri would be even more than that, and just on average! But maybe not. And yeah, obi have so many special threads they are ridiculous in pricing almost!
....if i were japanese..and lived in japan and not 18, 15, instead, and had long hair.....i would definately do this...ever since i was twelve i saw my first geiko at 12 . i wanted to do this... i think i was born into the wrong body...lol or im just a loser
But it's mostly shikomi that are (sometimes, probably depending on the okiya) forbidden to use cellphones, not maiko I think, and certainly not geiko.
A cellphone would be handy to communicate with the okiya or ochaya in case of changes or trouble, and in any case I remember seeing other pictures of geiko and maiko using cellphones (and a documentary where a shikomi said she wasn't allowed to).
That's good manners in Japan. Especially as a maiko in training, she would be scolded if she didn't.
From a practical point of view, the door is less likely to slide off this way, as the direction of the force you apply to it doesn't tend to lift it off.
@mistressnat zomg thats what I was thinking @_@ I know 20 year olds who are immature and always complain about what they dont have in life... But Yukina's really mature for her age and knows that she has to be strong to achieve her dream :)
It's nice seeing that Yukina could develop a good relationship with her new onee-san. It's sad that the relationship with her own blood onee-san has deteriorated. But what does she expect? She quit college while her younger sister is in Kyoto under vigorous training and all she's doing is buying more mascara. Yukina will become a geisha, an artist. What will she do?
PrincipessaDellOpera 1 week ago
why does she have to be on her knees to open and close the door?
true2me713 1 week ago
@true2me713 tradition
babyathina 5 days ago
how come they allways seem to knee to open the door do they do that to enter the house aswell?
misslizzy1993 1 week ago in playlist OCCULT
eyeroll @ them spelling it "saki"
dauphine719 2 weeks ago
When Kikuno gets her hair done. What is that instrument that the hairdresser keeps clamping into her hair? And what is it's purpose?
bangleboi 2 weeks ago
holey shit
she's 15 and she's so independent
i'm also 15
and i wouldn't be able to function without my mom dad or brother
oliball123 1 month ago
"I can't loose to her"
A,a statement that goes on in the mind of everyone.Mostly Asian,I hate stereotypes but it's true.We;re constantly trying to top everyone,so we don't have to hear about that someone non-stop.To be honest,I love that it's true,though it can drive you mad.It's better than sitting on your bum and being told university is an option,I was shocked when I heard uni was just a choice.To me,it's a decision,whether I choose to go into that line of work or not.
blingblingshineshine 3 months ago
@blingblingshineshine me too! I was quite shocked when I found out in highschool that university was an option.
aemnaemz 2 months ago
Donald Duck pajamas? How can she expect to become a geisha with DONALD DUCK PAJAMAS? :-D
vwgolfman2000 5 months ago 5
How many dance classes do maiko take a month? Do they go to them everyday?
eburel506 6 months ago in playlist Becoming a Geisha
She has a very mature way of thinking for someone so young; she seems to fit in well with the Geisha way of life.
CherithAngel 7 months ago
I can't really tell but it looks like Kikuno does a pink gradient effect on her forehead, it looks cool
xShadowxPhoenix 7 months ago
Why do they have to kneel before opening and closing the door?
xjetsetxlifex 7 months ago
@xjetsetxlifex
It's tradition, it's been done like this for centuries.
attackofdameepits 6 months ago
@xjetsetxlifex for respect. Kneeling, bowing, something called kowtowing, all of those things are done because of respect. It shows teh client is far above her, and she's just serving him or her.
akissy 6 months ago
Yukina's sister seems westernized!
CuTePuRPlePRiiNCeSS 7 months ago
Do geisha even get bathroom breaks?
xShadowxPhoenix 7 months ago
@xShadowxPhoenix They can, but the more likely case is that they make sure not to drink, because it's a pain to go to the bathroom when you're wearing the full geisha ensemble.
CherithAngel 7 months ago
@xShadowxPhoenix
No, when dressed in full attire they drink as little as possible to avoid the whole fact of having to go.
attackofdameepits 6 months ago
@attackofdameepits But they are made to drink on the job, man I couldn't handle that
xShadowxPhoenix 6 months ago
@xShadowxPhoenix
While they do have sips, they also just "wet their lips" / pretend to drink it. Me I can't drink even a sip with the meds I'm on. I feel like I do when I don't take them- ran over by a bus.
attackofdameepits 6 months ago
im wondering how hot exactly are those kimonos?
the poor girl would need the air conditioning on the whole night
yfset8 7 months ago
@yfset8 They are not only very hot at times depending on the weave, but stiff and heavy. A Maiko kimono with proper obi layers weighs about 8kg and some formal kimono as much as 15kg.
thesecretpathoflife 7 months ago
Donald duck on her pyjamas. Touching that she works so hard and is forced to grow up quickly but she is still a little girl inside.
1Thir13teen3 7 months ago 2
this culture is crazy beautiful <3
SignUpForFreeToday 8 months ago
heck taking my heels off after a night out is hard enough can't imagine dealing with a whole kimono. Personally I lack the patience to do what these girls do. It seems like really hard work and requires a lot of dedication. Kudos to them!
kj7129 8 months ago
Misato does seem like a lazy ditz
xShadowxPhoenix 8 months ago
" I don't want to lose against Yukina." Nothing like the good ol' sibling rivalry.
mysticblue436 8 months ago
So do most maiko/geiko not get married in the long run? Or do they only have relationships on the side? Sorry if this sounds rude or ignorant but I just thought of this after watching this section over again... If anyone knows please let me know.
greeneyedmonster6 9 months ago
@greeneyedmonster6 It's a mix. Those that retire from active Geisha work sometimes teach and others start a family. There is a higher percentage that don't ever get married than in the non-Geisha public.
Decades ago that single for life with or without sponsor percentage was higher than modern times.
thesecretpathoflife 9 months ago 3
Does anyone know the name or how to do Yukina's hairstyle in 1:18?
Ascended27 9 months ago
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SauryGirl1 9 months ago
@Ascended27 its called the split-peach hairstyle. traditional maiko hairstyle is like that because they want too look young and innocent. geisha, on the other hand, have this provocative hairstyle which is bunched up in the back like the lips of..you know.. and they tie the hair with a red swath of silk so that the inside really does look like ladyparts. im not kidding.
tactownguru 7 months ago
Lol, random skull on desk.
WulfPMG 9 months ago
Kikuyu is Geiko of the Miyagawa-cho along the east side of the river.
To see the Gion district one must travel some blocks further east near the temple clusters to Gion corner.
thesecretpathoflife 9 months ago
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That is true. Kikuyu is of Miyagawa-Cho along the east side of the river. Gion corner is further east several blocks near the temples.
thesecretpathoflife 9 months ago
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That is true, Kikuyu is of Miyagawa-Cho along the east side of the river. Gion corner is further east several blocks along toward the temples.
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Oriseon 9 months ago
Ment misedashi* ;)
SauryGirl1 10 months ago
asian people with coloured contacts is the ugliest thing ever.
nodoubtmaster 10 months ago
I want to try a kimono !
Pixeldoll 11 months ago
why do they hav to kneel down everytime they open or close those sliding doors? Formality? i don't see any practical reasons, unless it helps them make a habit of doing so when in actual formal circumstances.
kiss9hug 11 months ago
@kiss9hug They bow and knel down all the time because in Japan its politie, remember that before the western was involved in Japan. The japanese always with few exeptions sat ont he floor while eating etc..
SauryGirl1 10 months ago
Both Yukina and her older sister seem very nice. I hope they both do well in their careers.
Kathilisi 11 months ago
@Kathilisi
Kikuyu (Yukina) Has had her Erikae (Turning of the collar, maiko to geiko) recently and is doing very well. =)
attackofdameepits 11 months ago
@attackofdameepits Not exacly recently! Kiuyus erikae was held on December 22 2009. many more maikos and geikos had theyre msiedashia nd erikae this year 2011 :)
SauryGirl1 10 months ago
@SauryGirl1
You are right. See what happens when I don't get enough sleep? xD
attackofdameepits 9 months ago
@attackofdameepits lol yeh :)
haha Kikuyu is one off my nr 1 fav geiko :)
SauryGirl1 9 months ago
@SauryGirl1
Mine too!
attackofdameepits 9 months ago
@attackofdameepits Lol nice :)
Iff I ever go too Gion I wanna meet here :)
SauryGirl1 9 months ago
@SauryGirl1
She is not in Gion Kobu or Gion Higashi. She is in Miyagawa-Cho
attackofdameepits 9 months ago
@attackofdameepits Yes I know I ment Kyoto, Im always a bit troubling when it comes to wether Gion is in Kyoto or Kyoto is in Gion lol...
I know her hanamachi
SauryGirl1 9 months ago
Questioned..(Raises hand) what is the hair peice that maikos wear with the dangley metal bits?
eburel506 1 year ago
@eburel506
It is A Bira Bira Kanzashi (Japanese hair ornament). They wear 2 on their mishidashi or debut and one afterwords. They are for sale on rakiten and sometimes on eBay, you could also try Yahoo Japan Auctions and bid using Jauce.com
attackofdameepits 11 months ago
@eburel506
*Rakuten I mean =)
attackofdameepits 11 months ago
@attackofdameepits thanks so much i found some on ebay but I dont think they are that authentic. so thanks a bunch.
eburel506 11 months ago
@eburel506
Your welcome! Your best bet is to go onto flickr and look at pictures and then go on an internet hunt.
attackofdameepits 11 months ago
Am I the only one that can relate to Misato? Or do others feel a bit like her too? You see in 'Dawn Porters Geisha girl' that Yukina really has adapted well as a Maiko, you only see a quick glimpse of her, but she looks like she's doing well ^^
CrazyCookieMonster6 1 year ago 2
The contrast between the garish, Walmart culture of her elder sister and Yukina's profoundly elegant way of life is jarring. Yukina is preserving the flower of Japanese culture and its art forms while the sister is rummaging through the cosmetics counter at the mall.
mixedgrain 1 year ago 11
How can she bare bowing down to open the sliding door every-time she goes through? I would be like, screw this I'm just walking through.
MalonEisaiMalakas 1 year ago
@MalonEisaiMalakas what would annoy me the most is those pillows they have to sleep on would really hurt my neck. (I can barely stand the sink when I get my hair done). and I am not sure I could rember all the dance moves (I can be very forgetful.
eburel506 1 year ago
@MalonEisaiMalakas Japanese bow quite a lot, so I think they're pretty used to it. XD
okaminess 1 year ago
Yukina is such a mature and helpful girl! She sounds very courageous as well, since I wouldn't be able to stay away from my parents for that length of time - and to deal with the loneliness takes a lot. I really do admire her :)
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sanikadisanyaka 1 year ago
That's so sad! I hope Yukina and Misato are okay now. And that they are both happy.
abbiesaurusrex 1 year ago 3
I thought that your older sister had to be a geisha not a maiko
katastrofa630 1 year ago
@katastrofa630
As long as they have one days seniority they can be either. :-)
attackofdameepits 1 year ago
I really admire Yukina's inner strength and courage! Not being able to contact home for that long must have been so tough, especially at 15! Working hard all of the time while also being very lonely a lot. I really look up to her! :)
chi81216 1 year ago
this is the cutest geisha documentary ive ever seen
JaliscoGringa 1 year ago
I was doing the math, and Yukina debuted in 2005, she will have her Eri-kae somtime this year in 2010! Congrats Yukina!
Sotkai11 1 year ago 3
it looks more like fun and not work. wish l could get paid to dance and sing!
suichi98 1 year ago
To Close/Open the Door they to kneel then again kneel to Open/Close the door.
Interesting!
WINxTEC 1 year ago
I'd LOVE to leave for Japan and become a maiko (later geiko), and I'd left for Japan right NOW, If it wasn't for the fact that I'm a blonde, short haired, norvegian girl, though I have rather asian looking eyes... At least compared to other norvegians...
MsBabbi 1 year ago
I'd hate to open doors like that..
EmmaCherina 1 year ago
geisha are way better than runway models.... such beauty worth the money too!
babyharryable 1 year ago
OMG Misato And I Have The Same CD~!
IzAhKaYaH 1 year ago 15
Amazing
franco121760 1 year ago
wow, she is only a couple years older than me. i've always wanted to do this but now...i dont know....
jobrozrock 1 year ago
I rather envy Yukina as well. My dream would be to have been born in Kyoto and to become Geisha. She's so lucky to have that opportunity.
spongemonkey121 1 year ago 2
Donald duck Pj's? this girl is too awsome lol<3
jiszellediva 1 year ago 4
Her "older sister" is really pretty!Hmmm...I wonder if the girl is actually looking forward to getting her giesha medal!Who wants to have a bald spot!?
MsCelticwonder 1 year ago
wow a kimono is $7,256 in the US wtf ...times 40 !!! omg
Peppamomma 1 year ago 3
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rokpain 1 year ago
@rokpain, they are no different then doctors or lawyers in that sense. They work, study hard to be what they want to be. Also, geisha do not have sex. It is unusual to find a non-virgin geisha. They are not even allowed to kiss when they go out to tea houses. So I don't get your point really...everyone has to go through training to become what they want to be, so does that make everyone a prostitute? Even if they are virgins. Um yea...you make no sense.
WillyyyV 1 year ago 6
@WillyyyV My impression was that technically, while the geisha do live in the geisha house, they do eventually earn a portion of their own income and they are allowed to date (and in extension, have sex, as a personal matter-not as part of their work). The issue of dating seems to revolve around lack of time, as they are always training and working.
SarahLee1 2 months ago
Just watching them have to sit seiza every time they open or close a door makes me crazy! I can't imagine actually having to do it. D:
starkodama 1 year ago
the parties and environment change dramtically for a geisha house .. dont you think ?
studtimmie 1 year ago
wow. beautiful landscape @ 9:10
diphenhydramineHC 1 year ago
geisha are really strong and independent women! I admire them
neonaction 1 year ago
what a strict and rigorous trade. yukina is very strong! i would have cracked due to the stress
chouhone 1 year ago
msprittstick how do you know she dosen't have alot of the same shirt???don't judge
angelcarmie2 1 year ago
misato (kukino's sis) is SO much more beautiful, and her eyes are blue, which adds to that, because its uncommon for blue eyes in japan. she would be a good geisha maybe....
LOGOMag 1 year ago
@LOGOMag That could also be contact lens ...
Glasmoon90 1 year ago
@LOGOMag lol are you stupid, it's called contact lenses. they might even be circle lenses, which are supposed to make your eyes appear larger. they are usually coloured and very popular in east asian countries.
nazgs 1 year ago
@LOGOMag
Actually blue eyes are common for native japanese (Ainu). they are the first people of JAPAN. look it up. (Ainu)
princeofwinter 1 year ago
i'm curious to know: how do they remove their makeup?
RebelliousOne12 1 year ago 3
does yukina only own one top or something?
MsPrittstick 1 year ago
@MsPrittstick No, she wasn't aloud to bring anything in the process of becoming a Geisha. Not even her phone or stuff she just comes and then she starts wearing the Kimono which is first worn when she is done training.
EMOssY112233 1 year ago
Kikuno is sooooooooooooo beautiful!
mariakai 1 year ago 2
why did she have to sit down to close the door ?
i realy like how japanese are so well behaved and are very polite
at least thats what they seem like in movies and documentaries
stikitape214 1 year ago
i reckon her sister should be a make up artist
she seems to really like it hahaha
at least thats what they made it out to look like
stikitape214 1 year ago 23
甲部？先斗町？
asarityannrabu 1 year ago
I can't believe they spelled it "saki" instead of "sake"!!! It's sah-keh, not sah-kee! Oh well. It's nice to watch the geiko Kikuyu-san's transformation! Kikutsuru is the geiko I know best from the Hanafusa Okiya.
AyilanaEien 2 years ago
I wish I was a Japanese girl ^_^ *day dreams*
I find their way of living so beautiful.
I agree with Literaturechick12. It's a shame we don't have a um..."culture", I guess you can call it :(
I mean, we do....I just wish it were more like the culture of Japan ^_^
Pengu
BeautifulPengu 2 years ago 15
haha i love japanese culture too! ^_^
AquarianValkari 1 year ago 6
Sweet! ^_^
Happy to hear other people like it too lol.
Not a lot of people do near me :(
BeautifulPengu 1 year ago 3
really? how could they not like it XD but im in the same boat. not alot of black people seem to share the enthusiasm i have for everything japanese lol but yes u are not alone!
AquarianValkari 1 year ago
I love how she kneels to close the door, then stands again. I've tried kneeling and standing the way she does, but it's way harder than it looks! Then again, I'm not as thin as her, so I've got a lot of person to move! XD
CrystalChord2010 2 years ago 3
Some geisha look like children when they wear their makeup,but some of these girls end up looking like adults.
yaoilittleprincess 2 years ago 3
Gah this is so beautiful! I wish Western culture had something where girls could dress in traditional gowns. The loss of culture is devastating, especially when foreign cultures try to adapt to Western culture. I like the differences in culture!
literaturechick12 2 years ago 47
@literaturechick12 Hey you can still see alot of culture in the west! Look at all the beautiful artists, fashion, buildings, music (i don't mean most music today lol) I am from britain and i'm so proud of europe, Italy, france, all amazing places with so much history. It's sad that most people don't take interest in their own culture though, in japan people are obsessed with europe and america hopefully their traditions wont die out. People often just love the opposite that's the problem :))
runaroundnakeeallday 2 years ago 2
@literaturechick12 I agree its sad the lose culture sometimes. (however there are some things I am glad that are gone like the mituzuage).
eburel506 1 year ago
@literaturechick12 i think we do....it's called the Amish lolz....but i know what you mean...i wish it was a normal sight in the US to see women dressed in traditional victorian gowns and men with top hats and ruffled shirts xD
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@literaturechick12 Young people in the west can partake of the Koryu that develops Echiketto and Iki at age 13 if they are willing to commit to the structure of serious training, but Maiko / Geiko are specific to Kyoto and the Geisha traditions of other areas in Japan.
However, I find very few western young people willing to accept the disciplines of training. Very few indeed.
thesecretpathoflife 9 months ago 2
@literaturechick12 It is possible for western young people to take training in the Koryu that helps develop Echiketto and Iki, but few are willing to accept the serious commitment and long-term required to excel.
I am approached at times by some willing to learn for short periods usually 5 years or less.
thesecretpathoflife 9 months ago 28
@thesecretpathoflife where do i go to learn koryu?
saphiredewdrop 6 months ago
@saphiredewdrop True koryu arts are not westernized and one must travel to the source of training in Japan for most Koryu. The decision is not the students.
The student must be accepted by the sensei or house mother depending on the koryu structure.
thesecretpathoflife 6 months ago 2
@thesecretpathoflife so how will the sensei find me unless i go to them first? i want to try it.
saphiredewdrop 6 months ago
Why do Asian girls dye their hair? It is sleeky and shiney black in a way none of us in the Western World could ever have....I think it takes away from their beauty when they dye it.
no1zgrl4eva 2 years ago 22
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Yuri92001 2 years ago
@no1zgrl4eva -lol..do u have something against asian girls? u keep posting the same question "why do asian girls dye their hair? everytime. weird..i wonder why.
heomak 2 years ago
Oh no, the opposite, I think Asian women have absolutely stunning shiney black hair and it is a shame to dye it. Re read my comments before you accuse me of racism, I am COMPLIMENTING them.
no1zgrl4eva 2 years ago 2
i didn't accuse you of racism..i ASKED you if u had anything...ASK not ACCUSED> there's a difference. .i understand that u're asking a question but seriously this isn't the first time...in the video before, you asked the same question and a handful of people commented back but still you keep asking the exact same question..that just seemed weird. that's all.
heomak 2 years ago
@no1zgrl4eva as they say, "the grass is always greener on the other side". Some Americas envy Japanese hair, so why is it hard to imagine that Japanese want hair different from everyone else in their country? People always want what they don't have. If you're light skinned- you tan. If you have wavy hair, you straighten it- etc.
Rankuu18 10 months ago
the phone at 6:00 is cool!
Sugarandspite95 2 years ago 3
Does anyone know what that little metal tool was that they used on her hair? I know that i sound dumb, but I'm not sure what it is. thanks...
FiestyCat86 2 years ago
looked like a hair straightener to me, but i can't really be sure.
starsonmywindow 2 years ago 3
@starsonmywindow it's a type of hair crimper to add volume to the hair.
Biscuitpyon 1 year ago
They don't get to eat, or drink and have no time for dating on top of everything else? Who would torture themselves like this?
ericamt 2 years ago
$10 000 for a single kimono, and a Maiko needs 40 in her wardrobe. That's..I can't even process that amount of money. Surely the cloth and labour that goes into them doesn't amount to $10 000.
ericamt 2 years ago
The fabric, the craftsmanship, the design, if its made by hand or original, then the labor... yes, a kimono can top a high price.
Many Hollywood movie stars have clothing not nearly as complicated for five times that amount, but do you blink? Jennifer Aniston has spent that much on a haircut.
Don't knock the profession and tradition just because you don't get why they do it.
DeadlyChinchilla 2 years ago 9
To get good extensions and/or weave for my hair can go upwards to 5k....yeah it is possible.
Yuri92001 2 years ago
Well, $10,000 is the cost of super formal hikizuri, like for misedashi. The average hikizuri is more like $5,000, and the obi are about $5,000 each too. Everything is hand painted, it's literally a couture garment, very special and one-of-a-kind.
The obi SHOULD cost more since they are individually woven like tapestries, but designs are often used over and over, so they aren't as unique.
ewoodham 2 years ago 5
@ewoodham
I think they may even be a little more expensive than that these days! I have a furisode magazine from when I was in Japan and the most expensive one it is was $13,000! I would think a maiko hikizuri would be even more than that, and just on average! But maybe not. And yeah, obi have so many special threads they are ridiculous in pricing almost!
AyilanaEien 2 years ago
@ericamt 40,000
JaliscoGringa 1 year ago
What video is this? Does anyone know where I may purchase a DVD copy of it?
dagger09 2 years ago
I couldn't do that
MoliLouise 2 years ago
OMG I wanna become a geisha!!! to bad I'm totally incapable of walking let alone walking in THOSE shoes. besides i'm not japanese either...;"((
GraeyRibbon13CKS 2 years ago 7
Incredible story. I cannot imagine such a self-sacrificing and demanding way of life.
jungyew 2 years ago 5
....if i were japanese..and lived in japan and not 18, 15, instead, and had long hair.....i would definately do this...ever since i was twelve i saw my first geiko at 12 . i wanted to do this... i think i was born into the wrong body...lol or im just a loser
Oshidorinohina 2 years ago 7
Yeah, I couldn't handle the whole "bald spot" thing. Yukina seems like she really wants this and she's driven.
SarahLee1 2 years ago 5
Geisha can have cell phones???
PINKluvr01 2 years ago 3
Why couldn't they?
alestane 2 years ago 5
i thought that they werent allowed
PINKluvr01 2 years ago
Oh, I see what you mean.
But it's mostly shikomi that are (sometimes, probably depending on the okiya) forbidden to use cellphones, not maiko I think, and certainly not geiko.
A cellphone would be handy to communicate with the okiya or ochaya in case of changes or trouble, and in any case I remember seeing other pictures of geiko and maiko using cellphones (and a documentary where a shikomi said she wasn't allowed to).
alestane 2 years ago 3
why do they always kneel when opening and closing doors? its really intriguing me!!!!
abfabfan1 2 years ago 5
They do everything with care and precision, everything is ritual so that would extend to opening and closing doors too. I'm not sure if I'm right.
dyndan19 2 years ago 9
That's good manners in Japan. Especially as a maiko in training, she would be scolded if she didn't.
From a practical point of view, the door is less likely to slide off this way, as the direction of the force you apply to it doesn't tend to lift it off.
alestane 2 years ago 2
That kimono is breath-taking...
TwilightF 2 years ago 3
£5,000 for a genuine kimono that's about almost $10,000 i think LOL
paris06 2 years ago 4
Yeah, it's around there... that's incredibly expensive
CelebrianoLorien 2 years ago 2
I know this is an old post but as of today it's
7,956.75, but then again this documentary is 4 years old so they probably cost even more by now!
shane6003PQ 2 years ago
Be nice to have Becoming a Geisha (2005) as a Paylist on your channe;homepage
hpeterswald 2 years ago
Yukina's sister should become make up artist
ChaylaKaylaWTR 3 years ago 13
Exactly what I was thinking! She seems to love the stuff from that short clip we saw of her.
DevilShroom 3 years ago 4
she should do my makeup!
ChaylaKaylaWTR 3 years ago 4
I'm stunned at Yukina's level of maturity. For a fifteen year old, she is showing remarkable determination and wisdom.
mistressnat 3 years ago 115
@mistressnat zomg thats what I was thinking @_@ I know 20 year olds who are immature and always complain about what they dont have in life... But Yukina's really mature for her age and knows that she has to be strong to achieve her dream :)
theantikikyo 1 year ago
the money figure is the new way to acknowledge the true value of a material. Why not about the process of labour to make it?
danielpaco2000 3 years ago
you wish geisha could dance?? do you know anything about geisha?! Nowadays I think most of them like it very much
Discordia5 3 years ago 2
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It just seems like they are so sad...i wish they could dance and smile....
rodi505 3 years ago
that girl is such a nice big sister, not like Hatsumomo haha
QueenOfHeartsx 3 years ago 112
@QueenOfHeartsx LOl YEAH I know! AQ much better big sister X)
diphenhydramineHC 1 year ago
@QueenOfHeartsx hahaha..damn right..
threeedots 1 year ago
@QueenOfHeartsx haha...love that movie, Hatsumomo was beautiful though even if she was a bitch
JaliscoGringa 1 year ago 3
@QueenOfHeartsx
This is how a Maiko or Geiko Onee-san should act.
attackofdameepits 1 year ago
@QueenOfHeartsx HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sneakermestupid3 1 year ago
I wonder if they have terrible knees when they get older. They kneel all the time- even just to open and shut doors.
sillyyfaceee 3 years ago
Mostly you break by body by -not- using it. You could as well ask whether all western people lose their hips for all that chair usage.
angrymallard 3 years ago 4
I WANT TO GO TO JAPAN! ^^
mariakai 3 years ago 4
reply soooooooooon:
how much is 5,000 pounds in american money?
Hinoiteam10 3 years ago
Err.. $10,000? about.
Shihoba 3 years ago
OMG!
Hinoiteam10 3 years ago