Mudbox V's 3dMax V's CAT

[Serukkun]

he walks abnormally o_O

[nguyenhailong86]

I think CAT is perfect too :) but I never try bonepro . How about it ? I heard that it suit for low-res skinning like game . But how about high_res skin for movies ? Do you think it's better than skin moddifier ?

[ELHATMIYH2]

ahahahahha

[vencugar]

Nice!!



[d1v4dPwnz]

Would you recommened Mudbox?

[d1v4dPwnz]

Can you model in mudbox and bring the model into maya for animation? Can you render your character in poses in Mudbox? Im very new to this, thank you :)

[noggity]

@d1v4dPwnz yes

[momopirou]

@d1v4dPwnz you can pose your model in mudbox (tutorial aviable on autodesk site). if u wanna import it in maya, its a diferent story. you'll have to go through the normal/disp...maps generation to apply it to a lower res model. obviously a million polys model cannot be animated in any way.

[onom1234]

you forgot to model the penuz

[noggity]

@onom1234 I didn't forget....I have 2 young kids and didn't want to answer those sorts of questions from them.

[A801506]

@noggity Rofl I cant blame you for not wanting to have "the talk" haha

[redsky822]

so can u animate on mudbox

[Gron2003]

sorry - but weighting is really horrible :>

[noggity]

@Gron2003 its default weighting only to test how good / bad it would turn out. No extra weghing at all so people got an idea of what the starting weights are like. (Which I assumed I'd made clear in the info with the video).

[punjabiskillz89]

the hands are streching :S

[renzokukenleonhart]

did u take a class or did u learn on ur own? Cause I got the trail and want to be good at it. But just for fun. I want to get the program but don't want to have to go to fine art school to learn this.

[noggity]

@renzokukenleonhart entirely self taught  my site may enlighten a bit more dashdotslash . net

[volintine]

which song is that

[mauromb19]

@volintine I dont know... anybody knows??? maybe angra, raphsody!!!

[JosephD79]

@mauromb19

Band: HELLOWEEN Song: Dr. Stein

i thought was angra too. :)

[xXNellyBopperXx]

which mudbox did you use and how long did it take u

[Rhizzak]

Lol @ ur rubber dino man. Try rigging and Animating the real way

[YOVTVBEjunkee]

dude have you got a link so I could find some tutorials please ?

google won't load for me atm :( I want to become a Game Designer and am eager to learn this stuff !!

P.S i'm only 16

[TheGuardianofAzarath]

That's actually quite a nice model :)

I too HATE rigging/animating in 3ds max. Unfortunately, I don't have the CAT plugin (and can't aford to upgrade to max 2011, i'm using max 8), I'm also not very good with texturing. :p pretty much the only things I CAN do are modeling and materials, and to a lesser extent, lighting. Particles, cloth, haif/fur, rigging/animating...nadda. :p

[antiusninja]

LOooooool

[Conundrummy]

@dudeurugly23

now now to both of you amazing work can be made in both programs its the Artists capabilities that makes the difference not the tool

[dudeurugly23]

um try zbrush 4

[ChimeraProd]

@dudeurugly23

zbrush is for students

mudbox is professionals

Now go play with shadow box and make a chair or something, since thats all its good for

[XavierDETCHEVERRY]

I love it !!!

[HiroKun10]

I dont understand it at all i created the CAT Rig and it fitted inside the character i used Bones Pro and it didnt work at all :s shame theres like crap all on CAT and BonesPro tutorials. nice stuff anywho.

[syntaxed2]

if that only took 10min to setup it gets my vote, i hate rigging too and just want a fast way for last minute pose changes

[rodneybrett]

Not bad for default skinning. Certainly better than Maya's default skinning. The CAT rigs are nice and Bones Pro is much faster at skin sliding objects than Maya Muscle. I was recently using the new Envelopes in Maya 2011 for my work, but later ditched them in favor of brush skinning manually. I've done so many professional skin jobs at this point that I'm faster doing it that way anyways.

[okokira]

Cat vs biped please explain a little of these feature?

[rodneybrett]

@okokira Biped is similar, but older. It's from the Character Studio days. Cat's got a lot more modularity in creating the specific rigs you want, also, you can transfer animation easier between rigs.

[okokira]

@rodneybrett

is it hard to learning cat instead Biped ?

[rodneyabrett]

@okokira They are both easy because they don't require any manual rigging, they are pre-set rigs all ready for animation, you just adjust proportions, etc. You'll still have to skin them and I recommend learning brush weight-painting over just regular envelope weighting, as envelopes will only get y ou so far with the deformations.

[okokira]

@rodneyabrett

thank you very much for your advise, :) i'm going learning brush weight-painting :)

anyway Cool char...

[StaleFlesh1]

CAT is awsome I've been using it since it came out, got me through some scary times at work. The presets it comes with are easy to tweak, but the best is how great it handles motion capture. You can reverse and blend animations way better than biped. I hate rigging too so I fell in love with CAT when it came out for max 2009. I gotta start posting my stuff lol. I'm loving the new mudbox to! Posing is great!

[BeserkRodent]

Looks great man!

[Theicemonkeyjr]

ive been using cat for a while on 2010, glad to hear its implemented into 2011, its a brilliant peice of kit and is much easier to use than the horrible bipeds of max. so you had no setup whatsoever here? wow, did u use physique or skin?

[Theicemonkeyjr]

ive been using cat for a while on 2010, glad to hear its implemented into 2011, its a brilliant peice of kit and is much easier to use than the horrible bipeds of max

[MaMastoast]

I too hate rigging and skinning, so uhm... whats this CAT thing?

[noggity]

@MaMastoast 'Characetr Animation Tolkit' that was previously a subscriber only plugin and before that Softimage plugin etc etc etc...enables you to set up a rig fast. Bones Pro is a pay plugin for skinning that does a far better job that maxs built in one.

[liquidbear]

very good for quick rig but be carefull of the stretchy thumb and fingers they are getting weights from the thigh bone simple fix :) cat is a amazing little tool

[noggity]

@liquidbear well I as I mentioned in the info I wanted to see what the absolute default no tweaked version would produce (usualy using max skin it requires one helluva clean up). Although cleaning up the weights in bones pro would probably only take about 20 mins or so max.

[liquidbear]

@noggity i know it was a quick set up and no tweeks i was just trying to say CAT is really easy to use and its a amazing tool :D

[noggity]

@liquidbear hey if it gets a model even roughly 1 mile from done in 15 mins it gets my vote put it that way.

[KAPORALDANGER]

Moving models! I vote for that ! :)

[joaqim123]

Awesome man :D