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  • I THINK THE KEY OF THE MATCH WAS THEO PAPALOUKAS!!!

    12 ASSISTS

  • at 3:08 it was a clear block!

  • to 0:53 htan tapa

  • aut t paixnidi t eixe ola...

    tapes...klepsimata...3ponta...­.

    OLA...

    apla GAMHSE!!!!!!!

  • I salute you Spaniards! Thanks for the video

  • in the olympics greece had the worst team last 15 years and USA the second best of all time

  • GREEK PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!

  • Respect for using "SUPER-FIRE" ! ! ! The song takes me back... Great vid, great game, great team! HELLAS !

  • I see thi game in greece with friends, and all the people has stop to work, just all Greece was looking at this match, AND WE SHOW to THE dREAM tEAM , WHAT is GReek BAsketball,

    before the match the coach of usa say "i dont even know were is Greece" NOW YOU KNOW STUPID YANKEE::: Ohhhh YESSssssss

  • @JumpingRobot the only people who thumbs u up r greeks

  • The block at 0:53 is just beautiful.

  • sadly it was called foul by the refs... :-/

  • FPWL4Life, I have a feeling that the 2006 defeat hurt the US a lot more than the 2008 defeat hurt Greece. So give it a rest.

  • that's true!!!

  • It was definitely a wake-up call for the US.

  • USA 92 - Greece 69

    This is what happens when you get over confident after ONE win. All that shit you guys talked and your team gets blown out of the building. It wasn't even close! Call us monkeys, call us whatever you want but once again, the USA is dominating.

    I know it hurts. Especially after all the crap you guys have said here. What now? Are you still going to hold on to that measly win? HA HA HA. I love it. What makes this better is how you guys seriously thought the USA was done. HAHA!

  • Dude, this wasn't a semifinal. Get over 2006. You lost fair and square back then. Why do you Americans believe your bb team should always win even by its presence, I never quite understood. Everything is played on court and every game is different. Nice you learned to show some respect even the hard way. Congratulations for all you are achieving now. The Olympic tournament is not over yet, though. You're definately the favourite but that's what you also were in 2006. Only hope to see nice games!

  • dude noone said we got better players than usa! all i say is that it hurt a lot!!!hahaha losing to a team u thaought you'd win easily.

    you americans are some kind of idiots , couse u think you can win only by wearing the "usa shirt"

    back then greece played better basketball than u did, and won. i am proud cause i haven't dreamt we could win the "dream" team...

    plus , it was a semifinal hahahaha and we scored more than 100 points to the dream team. i enjoyed your sad faces!!

  • usa---------------------------­---->DOPE

    just consider that before you talk like this again. greece was clean you were on drugs and we fucked your motherfucker asses.... so shut the fuck up asshole... greetings from Greece...

  • ainte kai simera me tsabouka!!!!!!!!

  • get out from olympic games--->bastarrds americans war pigs.

  • go away from olympic games---bastard americans war pigs.You have destroy our lifes...

  • FUCK U S A ! ! !

    GREECE IS THE BEST!

  • this one of my favorite videos on you tube thanxxxxx man

  • thank u for this video! excellent!

    keep dunking!!!

  • nba represent national bullshit association or what ?

    bravo re magkes!! keep it rollin' !!

  • na rwtisw kati akiro oi kinezoiapwnes einai erwteymenoi me tous amerikanous k to anapodo?giati se ola ta video lene gia ameriki k kina enantiwn olwn twn xwrwn ths eyrwphs!k sto mundobasket ston agwna itan me tous amerikanous

  • USA will lose again and China dont even exists. Greece raped China and won with more than 40 points difference.

  • HA HA HA. Yeah talk all the shit now becomes with its Olympic time, the USA will own everyone like how the original Dream Team did. Sure Greece beat USA, but what happened in the Finals? They lost to a Pau-less Spain team! HAHAHAHA. Team USA will only practice together for 3 weeks and will still run everyone out the gym. Oh yeah, Team China is going to embarrass you coincided, over-confident Euro teams.

  • and why the fuck r u so happy bout us losing in the final.. that makes u look even worse cause u have been beaten from the second...not even the champion dickhead.

    lol

  • and you think it will be that easy again just to practice 3 weeks with 5 monkeys and this will make it? here we see another example of american ignorance, lets face it bush brainwashed you for sure.

  • Yeah, keep talking shit. I'll just wait for those 5 monkeys to dominate and get the gold. So how embarrassing will it be to lose to 5 monkeys? Yes, bush has brainwashed me in to thinking that the best players in the NBA can get gold. You do realize that all those euro players dream of playing in the NBA with those monkeys right? NOBODY dreams of playing international ball.

    Vagina Spanolis is having a great year right? How do you average more turnovers than assist? HAHAHA no wonder he quit NBA.

  • its all money man, money has nothing to do with quality, european basketball is maybe not that spectacular like nba but we have seen that europe can dominate the western hemispehere with its basketball ;)

  • People like you are the reason USA has such a bad name in the world.

  • USA have a bad name in the world, for what they do to the world.

  • @JumpingRobot explain what we do to the world that other countrie dont do. and most countries do worse

  • dream was years ago get over it

  • monkeys loose cuz monkeys play with no brains, its all mind games which results in clever plays. There is no I in team, even if u put 5 Is on the floor it wont work.

    You can dunk and make a big show, but if you loose you loose, thats it...

  • Etsi re Elladara!!!!!!

  • nice video, nicely cut with slo mos just fitting everything, and the music is well picked, regards. But most important is the main actors :D Opa elladara :D

  • N.B.A!!!! THEY'RE JOKING RIGHT??!!! SEND THOSE GUYS TO LEARN HOW TO SHOOT AND GIVE A FUCKING PASS AGAIN!!!!! G R E E C E PLEAZE TEACH THOSE PUNKS HOW TO PLAY BASKETBALL!!! THEY WERE PLAYING N.B.A.!!!lol

  • All I have to say is that every basketball team knows how to play defense! Though all the teams in the USA including the national team are just playing the game for showing off with dunks and 3pts! A game is always won by the D! Nice video man... Greece Rulezzz...!!!

  • God I remember the game, up by 10 and doing good. Then, it just fucking tore open on defense. They stopped moving their feet, stopped playing D. So many fucking open shots it hurts. I guarantee you if that team had taken the game as a seventh game of the finals, melo makes that dunk, lebron gets that block and wade doesn't get run over by a screen. 90% of sport is half mental.

  • LEBRON GETS OWNEDDD

  • You are right! It is a fantastic 3pointer.

  • 1:21-1:33 best 3 pointer ever IN UR FACE!!!

  • lol, hadly an overtime game winning NBA Finals Larry Byrd shot mate

    <3 exaggeration

  • very good video!

    very good mix!

  • greeks really know how to destroy a teams spirit with three points and their clever play

  • yea, but they are weak 3pts ... europeans shoot well, why don't they back up the trey eh?

  • they r not week in three pointers

  • How's this song called btw?

  • great vid man really awesome thx but i have to say that in eurobasket,greece seems to do everything wrong(and im greek...)

  • I wouldn't like to place any bets against the USA this year... bad chesmistry last year.

  • Damn! Melo gets owned at :53 secs! I haven't seen him blocked that way in nba.

  • yea ... he didn't expect it. pretty weak if you ask me

    I truly expect the US to come out hard in beijing. I mean, other than Wade; LeBron, Kobe, Anthony and Howard are having spectacular stats in 07-08

  • its over, all you USA haters can it one!!

    you guys made kobe bryant and jason kidd come out!!

    i wanna see them celebrate when kobe drops 81on them!!!

  • stupid usa lose again

  • ti pou to vlepw re gamw to mouni tis oikogenias sou gia paidi!!!!!!!!Gavos re poustraki tou aiolou?????den vlepeis?????

  • Greece is a team of excellent players, with better technique than most of the NBAers. They lacked in athleticism but made up with team effort and some luck. NBA for me has lost the plot when it comes to the balance between showmanship/sport that's why USA keeps losing out in these competitions.

  • special thanks to Nick Galis , who made Greeks think .... ORANGE :P

    ARIS RE!

  • Playing Duncan as our starting center is better than playing a 6'8 Brand as our starting center.

  • Duncan can easily play center. He would play center on most NBA teams.

  • mellow got hammered at 0.53 mark damn

    never seen him blocked in the nba that way

    he got owned

  • exelent game, and awesome edit!!

  • you know, it's a team geam, with 5 players not only two... there are so many things that the us team gotta learn, but if they play much more together in a team i think in some years they will be unbeatable... but greece is know the best team in the world although they lost against spain, hey they had a bad day xD

  • well team usa had a bad day too when they lost to greece. Its not that they cant play as a team,heck they were unbeatable and lost only once in the tourney and BY 6 points only, so why the hell do people say they cant play as a team. Damn...

  • actually they did play good. And hell yes it was a good team. How can someone say a team with Wade,Lebron and Anthony in its roster isn't good? It's just that Greece played so f^cking good. First time i see these guys perform like that.

  • in sydney 2000 we first show the weak part of US national team.That team had nothing to show us and it wasnt unbeatable!!!Loosers France could easily have won them.And i think thats because of Kidd and Garnett who played for themselves!!!

  • how can you say kidd and garnet only played for themselves?

  • awesome video man,great work!

  • man.. out of all the players why Kidd and garnett? do u have any idea of wut ur talkin about?? kidd and garnett..kidd nad garnett.. man u cud have said iverson..but no..u said Kidd and Garnett....damn man...

  • Garnett actually as a consistent shot combined with excellent defense. He would be perfect on the USA team. In the 2000 Olympics, the USA team was undefeated with Garnett and Kidd on the team. Allen is another player that would be good to have.

  • yeah, i think that greece just played better and could do it... if the us national "team" would really become a team, it will be the best... and this is what mike shishevski (don't know who you write him) wants, a team and that's why he doesn't change the roster....

    with kidd and jefferson for example you have two strong players who play in 1 team

  • That block from diamantidis at 53sec is soooo amazing

  • Garnet has the same style as Lebron but i think he is not better.Anyway he is not the type of player thet would make the difference in USA national team. Only Kidd or Kobby could do that.

  • Deutschergrieche and I are the only people here that have unbiased opinions. Garnett is a much better player than Lebron.

  • no, i think that garnett is really one of the best players of the world....... really..

    you're right, we outplayed you xD

  • Lol Garnett is often criticized for shooting too many jumpers.

  • sorry joeyyowee,you talked about Garnett ah?Well let me tell you something you fuckin' cockroach:Garnett is just a silly monkey.All he knows is just dunking.That's it end of story.he just duks with animal force.but sorry dickhead this IS NOT BASKETBALL...karkiniarika americanakia...

  • You guys make it seem like our team sucked. We beat a team (Argentina) that almost beat a team that blew you guys out (Spain). You guys are saying that with Kobe, Duncan, Kidd, and Garnett added to the mix we wouldn't have won? I'm not making excuses at all. I think you guys won fair and square and you outplayed us. As I said before, I was rooting for you guys to win. My opinion is unbiased.

  • duncan was in athens and what did they do, nothing

  • I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong. I'm stating facts. The three best American players (Duncan, Kobe, and Garnett) were not on the US National team. I'm saying that we would have won if those three players and Kidd were on the team.

  • With "if" and "maybe" you cannot make history. Since you are stating the facts then the truth is that that those guys want to have some rest and enjoy their millions than fight for their national team...thats why we are better..

  • garnett is PF and duncan is PF good luck with that dude

    youre giving them more ammo

  • History is written by the athletes that they do compete, not the ones that could have played but they haven't... With "if" and "maybe" no point has a valid basis...

  • I didn't say that every American player is better than the best Europeans. I said that the best players in the Euroleague are about equal to average NBA players. They are better than the worst NBA players.

  • dannytroy was me on my dad's account. sorry about that.

  • yes man, you say it xD

    oh and now try to come out of this shit you built

    gia tin ellada re gamoto xD

  • i meant u tried to tell us the US team could be better NOT is better.SORRY!and americans continue having th........NOT american.

    Typical mistakes sorry!!

  • Kisses from GREECE

  • i dont even bother answering ur other bullshits!!!!if the amrican continue having thoughts like yours,u ll never bild again the baksetball play u had...

  • can u hear ur self u son of ....!!u r an idiot sometimes

  • in the first comment of yours joeyyowee-in wich i answered-u were saying that every american player is better than the best of europian ones.and now you trying to prove us ur wrong by saying that the US national team is the best it could be!!!!

  • the L.A. clippers have the rights on schortsianitis =)

  • I don't think Schortsianitis will play in the NBA this year. I didn't say that Lebron is the biggest player. But he is the biggest star. The star system of the NBA wanted him to be.

  • Lebron isn't the biggest star in the NBA. He's the most overrated star in the NBA. I think Kobe, Kidd, and Garnett would make the difference.

  • Is Shortsianadis playing in the NBA this year?

  • And we lost easily since we had to change our offensive style completely within 2 days.

  • It was very hard even to get the ball inside the three point line.

  • In the final Spain played a very different defence style.

  • Also the US defence is a reason. They could not understand what "move without the ball" means. They think that first the opponent should take the ball and then mark him not to go to the basket (like they play in the NBA).

  • yes, in this match against the greeks, you didn't see any double team by greece.... it was just man to man and a zone which drove the US guys crazy....xD

  • Gianisptr is right. I agree with him. In the Athens Olympics the USA team has 2 of the greatest stars on last times (Duncan and Iverson) and they lost.

    If all the people think like you, joeyyowee, you will never beat us because you are not understanding the point: "the we is much more important than the me".

  • In the Olympics 2004 players like Duncan,Iverson,Boozer,Studamir­e lost again.

    Nearly all the NBA stars have lost by European teams.

    And if you don't understand the reason you will continue losing

  • What you have not understand is that players that in the NBA have 30-35 points in each game, here in Europe would have at most 15-20.

  • What you are saying are absolutely rubish.

    Last Summer USA had in their roster Lebron(the biggest star in the NBA right now), Brand and Carmello of the players you mentioned.

    You thing that Kobe or Kidd would make the difference???

  • You're right deutschergrieche. I just think that Kidd, Kobe, Melo/T-Mac, Brand, and Garnett is just too much talent for you guys to handle. The national teams in the 90s were able to dominate despite not playing together for a long time. I think Kidd, Kobe, Melo/T-Mac, Brand, and Garnett would just be too much for European teams to handle.

  • but the difference is that we play easy elementary basketball with special runs and no show game that'S why you don't see so much showtime in europe...

    but that's the thing, if you would make the lineup of the detroit pistons, i think they're all americans would fuck us europeans xD

    we would lose by 50 cause these guys are a team, and guys like garnett, melo, t-mac need time to play together and become a TEAM...

  • Now you can get this video "I can play... I can dunk" on High Definition on Azureus Vuze.

  • Joeyyowee said "We would have easily won with a lineup of Kidd, Kobe, Melo/T-Mac, Brand, and Garnett"...

    I don't think so, and if you win you will not easily.

  • That's exactly what I'm saying deutschergrieche. That's why we lost.

  • joeyyowee wut the fuck r u talking about u fucken american if u put all of the best players in the NBA in a team they would still suck the real basketball is european

  • you know that the 5 best players don't make the best team, ha?!

    european play much better TEAM defense than (most of)the nba players.... yes your talent is better, but we work harder xD

    the greeks won it because they had the heart and the will and they were a TEAM, which you guys of the nba don't have.. the americans played like "ha, the greeks, 11million inhabitants, these guys are nothing....

  • I understand that your style of basketball is much better than ours. That's why international teams keep beating us. You guys don't understand that our talent is much higher than yours. Some of you guys think that all American players are exactly the same and play the same way. There are a lot of Americans that care about winning and nothing else.

  • I'll list reasons why we lost.

    1. No chemistry

    2. We didn't have the best players in the USA on the US National team.

    3. Some players on the team didn't deserve to be there.

    4. Not used to FIBA rules or the European style of play.

    5. Our go to guy was Melo.

    6. Too many young overrated players and not enough experienced veterans.

    We would have easily won with a lineup of Kidd, Kobe, Melo/T-Mac, Brand, and Garnett.

  • It seems that they are thinking on dunks, parties, girls, jewels, cars and MONEY...... not in basketball.

    The NBA nowadays SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

  • The only clear thing in this... and watching the NBA for the last years is that all the "great" young stars on NBA cannot play the real basketball. They only can play 1on1 and nothing else.

  • joeyyowee from the european players you mentioned only Papaloukas is greek, but we beat you last summer. We beat you with Spanoulis (that is not good enough for the NBA as yout expert coach Van Gandi believed), with Diamantidis that does not want to go to the NBA, with Fotsis who left NBA since he didn't play a lot, with Schortsianitis. Why do you believe you lost?

  • basketball is stealing,posting,judging,playi­ng zonal defence,looking for the free shot with more than 10passes

  • basketball is technik, is dancing,is dribbling. it's not dunking, jumping, running or fucking.

  • u cannot understand joeyyowee.our basketball is defrent.our perspectives are different.u invented basketball,we developed it!!

  • kidd,bryant,mcGrady,garnett and o'neal would never beat papaloukas,diamantidis,bodirog­a,scola,vujcic!!!!Even if they played a million fo times.

  • Young players like Howard and Lebron still haven't learned how to shoot the ball. Lebron and Howard give USA basketball the reputation of being about athleticism and nothing else.

  • Kidd, Kobe, Melo, Brand, and Garnett (I didn't put Duncan because he's from the USVI) could beat Papaloukas, Navarro, Dirk, Gasol, and Vujcic. The 3 best American players didn't play for the USA national team. That's another reason why we lost. Four out of the five American players that I mentioned could shoot the ball very well for their position.

  • "joeyyowee", these players are beaten 5 years now by the players you mentioned...European have proved that they can beat even the greater stars of the NBA...

  • ey man, dirk is european... xD

  • i think the european players spend of their time in practicing defense and basics, like shooting... european centers can also shoot... american players are much more athletic (faster, jump higher...)

    when you look at a team like e.g. the san antonio spurs, they play like a european team with their systems.. and that's why i think that this european team with guys like diamantidis or garbajosa and navarro could play against many nba teams....

  • Do you think a team of Diamantidis, Navarro, Langdon, Scola, and Vujcic could beat Nash, Kobe, Dirk, Amare, and Duncan?

  • It is much more difficult for a great scorer to score many points in Europe, because the defence systems are more sophisticated.

  • Only man to man is allowed with no reason. That is the reason players focus on their quick legs more than on their shot,pass etc.

  • What i dont understand about the NBA is that the players are not free to play their game.

  • There are NBA players that didn't play well in Europe and European players that didn't play well in the NBA. My point is that in general european players are better basketball players and American players are better athletes.

  • It's obvious that the best European is going to have a big impact in the NBA. It's also obvious that mediocre NBA players aren't going to dominate the Euroleague. You can't compare a guy like Dirk to a guy like Haislip.

  • Can someone also explain why the Raptors didn't get far in the playoffs with the Euroleague MVP on their team? Euroleague players that come to the NBA are usually good players or players with potential. NBA players that go to the Euroleague are usually bench players that don't get much playing time.

  • raptors had players like calderon, barniani and others that every good european team, can have them in no time. the only good player was garbajosa. i am greek. but the last year i live in toronto and i watched the team closely. if they had the elite of europe they would win the nba title. even now, i believe they are better than cavalier.

  • Carlos Arroyo is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Can someone explain why Puerto Rico beat the USA team? Did they beat the USA because they have more talent? Why is it that Arroyo can't play well in the NBA?

  • 3.batistie came here as a small forward and became an excelllent center by obradovic who was the only one seeing his tallents.

    4.please joeyyowee describe an offence play in nba which includes more than 3 passes!in europe 8 passes can be not enough.

    5.every player coming from the college the only which cares about is to build his body and not to improve his basketball skills-if there arte some of these on him...!-because this is what the nba factory commands.

  • 1.the man who says carmelo is a good player must see the video "bodiroga schools carmelo".

    2.joeyyowee tell me please why tony delk who performed very well in nba for more than 10 years couldn't play more than 80 min in euroleague???and his not the only one.

  • European players play more important role in the NBA than american players in the Euroleague.

    This season in the NBA MVP of the regular season and the playoffs are European.The same happened in euroleague also...Also look at the best team of the euroleague as voted...How many american players are there???The only american players that play really well are Langdon and Batiste, but even them are not the stars of their teams and there teams are not based on them

  • Let's see on Beijing 2008 if you have learn the lesson!!!

  • this video proves that there are alot of great athletes in the NBA not great players.There are some tweeners like kobe but not alot only real good players are nash manu and some others i cant think of right now

  • Haislip is 10th in scoring. You are right that I don't watch the Euroleague. I look at the stats, the scores, and the highlights. I'll tell you right now that Batiste, Haislip, and Langdon aren't as good as Wade.

  • I forgot about Batiste. Why did Batiste decide to go to Europe anyway? He was a pretty good player on Memphis.

  • The real dominating players have been: Papaloukas, Navarro, Rudy Fernandez, Vujicic, Diamantidis, Becirovic, Scola, Papadopoulos, Smodis, ... the only american very good season have been Mike Batiste.

    I think you don't know nothing about Euroleague.

  • I think you have no watch a lot of Euroleague games this year because any of those players you have say have been a dominant player on Euroleague. In many cases any one of them have played well on their teams: Scales!! Haislip!! Sharp!! (just bench players), only Trajan Langdon on CSKA.

  • So why is it that former NBA players go to the Euroleague and play well? Guys like Haislip, Langdon, Santiago, Scales, Cummings, and Sharp are doing pretty well in the Euroleague. These were players that could barely get off the bench in the NBA. I doubt these players are better than Wade.

  • Only one player on NBA can play and think as an European player: Steve Nash.

    There is no more Michael Jordans, John Stocktons, Magic Johnsons, Larry Birds,... nowadays, any NBA player can read the game.

  • joeyyowee, when you the americans tell "good players", you mean a player that can jump,dunk,run very fast. But this is not a good basketball player (may this is a good NBA player or circus player as Jerridis said). A good basketball can dribble,can pass, can shoot, can think quickly. And the only of your players that can do all of them was Carmelo.

  • Well, the NBA is for zogglers... All the acrobatics in the NBA can also be seen at circuses... The Greek national team, had no lose in the Mundobasket except for the final. Diamantidis' shots are like the best that can be found in an also great defender and play-maker. This doesn't exist in NBA. Papaloukas must be the best in passing game around the world, plus he dunks like hell.. Probably the best players that participate in high class tournaments nowadays.

  • I'm not criticizing the Greek team at all. I give them a lot of respect for having great team work. I was actually rooting for them against team USA because I wanted everyone to see that team chemistry is more important than talent.

  • Lets say that Papaloukas is as good as the Euroleague MVP of last year (Anthony Parker). Everyone on the USA team is better than Anthony Parker except Battier.  I'll be fair and say that Papaloukas is worse than everyone on the USA team except Battier. I feel this way because guys like Spanoulis and Jasikevicius have done nothing in the NBA.

  • parta mwrh joeyyowee

  • Sxortsianitis own Dwight Howard!!!!!

  • joeyyowee, I think you are wrong, for me only Steve Nash (and he is not american) is better than Papaloukas.

    Are you saying that Joe Johnson (for exemple) is better than Theodoros?? I don't think so.

  • you joeyyowee you re still a motherfucker,a little hairy ashol!!!!i can see from here the oain in your ash!!!Greek tem was better so they won.All the other things are little details!!!understand u son of a bitch???!!!

    and tell me pls more than 10 american players that are better than papaloukas or diamantidis?????sucker!!

  • lindo "clip"

  • Some of you Greek fans have to be realistic. Greece's best player isn't as good as the USA's worst player. Greece won because they had good chemistry and they play well as a team. Even though the USA has good individual players, they can't seem to come through as a team. I still think that Argentina has the best national team. If they didn't lose to Spain, they would have won the FIBA championship.

  • I beg to differ. Papaloukas is easily the most intelligent PG in the world today (second maybe to Nash who's also not American), USA has to make PGs of such quality since the days of Magic. Your basketball is deteriorating, the PG is the most important unit of any team, a good PG does for a team what an exceptional SG-SF-PF-C would strive to do......

  • papaloukas? wtf? u kidding ryt? so hes better than kidd,chauncey,deron, chris paul, damn even jason williams or steve blake?

  • I never said better, I only said more intelligent. Your niggas are downright srupid.

  • you are an american right?man i am from greece and i know one thing....that greeks are not as good as the americans at1 on 1 but basketball is 5 on 5 and we have the team spirit that usa don't got!!!!

  • Fantastic!Πορώνομαι....

  • awesome!!!!!!video and the game!thanks clasicosenaccion

  • best team in the world GREECE we didn't had luck thats why we didn't won the cup

  • Exceptional ...

  • excellent video!!

  • NB is shit against this!!!!!!!!

  • there ist one exception in USA, michael jordan he loves playing,too.