This topic is a double whammy. Abortions are bad when you got pregnant, pay for the consequence. But if someone is rapped then it is accepted. Either way both sides are wrong. It's like being in a pool full of piss and someone comes over to dump shit on you. Do you stay up and take the shit or do you go under the piss? But then, why the hell are you in a pool full of piss anyways?
i am basically pro-life but this commercial gives me the creeps--I think that thate are instances when abortion should be practiced--rape, incest, risk to mother's life. I thik it should NEVER be used as a form of birth control
I could have saved that skank a couple of bucks by throwing her down a flight of stairs and then rooting around in her box with a rusty coathanger. Top it all off with a shot or two of Drano, and it's bye bye little demon crotch spawn. If more people had abortions, the world would be a much, much better place. Hell, 70% of the people reading this comment probably should have been aborted.
Here's a really good way to keep from putting yourself in a situation where you think you will "need" an abortion. It's really simple, I promise, and it requires no money and very little effort. Here it is: Abstinence. Can't get pregnant if you don't have sex!
@rickyfan3956 Abstinence prevents pregnancy? Really? Ever looked at the data? When you tell people to abstain from sex to avoid pregnancy they end up engaging in risky behavior that ends up giving them STD's. Or they end up getting pregnant anyway.
@MrTruthAddict Um...I AM for real! If you don't have sex, you won't get pregnant! How hard is that to understand? Abstinence is NOT impossible to achieve NOR is it unenjoyable. Abstinence does NOT cause people to engage in risky behavior. People CHOOSE to engage in risky behavior and then, when the consequences for their actions come knocking on their door, they want to blame someone or something else for their actions.
@MrTruthAddict That kind of stuff, ie the Blame Game, is as old as time itself. It's even in the Bible, in the story of Adam and Eve. The truth is, though, as Sir Isaac Newton said, "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." For every action, there is a consequence. And if you're going to engage in risky behavior, you'd better be prepared to pay the consequences and not foist the responsibility or the punishment off on something or someONE else, ie an unborn child.
@rickyfan3956 The statistics for abstinence programs are horrible. What happens is people end up engaging in oral and anal sex to avoid pregnancy and the spread of STD's goes way up. Not to mention that people end up having sex anyway and they get pregnant at a MUCH higher rate then those who were taught the realities of sexual education. It's time to drop your Bronze age mentality and get real. People have sex, deal with it.
cant post the link so just google "abstinence programs fail"
@MrTruthAddict So, again, if you don't have sex--or engage in risky behaviors--, you won't get pregnant or an STD. Conversely, if you DO have sex and/ or engage in risky behaviors, you will get pregnant or an STD or both. So, cite to me your "sources" for your "data".
@rickyfan3956 Oh geez, no wonder you're in fantasy land. You got your nose stuck in that Bible. Look, I m a preachers kid so theres nothing you can tell me about the Bible that I dont already know. I know you believe in fairy tales and you use a false morality, created by Bronze age simpletons who were very superstitious and uneducated. Newsflash! People have sex! and the more you tell kids not to, they more they do it. The wise approach is to handle it with some common sense
@MrTruthAddict Just because you're a preacher's kid doesn't mean you know EVERYTHING about the Bible. So if you were a doctor's kid, would that automatically qualify you to practice medicine? I mean, hey, you were a doctor's kid, so that means you must know everything there is to know about medicine, right? In the same way, just because you're a preacher's kid, it doesn't mean you know EVERYTHING about the Bible. From the way you're talking, obviously you don't.
@MrTruthAddict No, the wise approach would be to control yourself and not even put yourself in that position in the first place. Then, you wouldn't even have to worry about being pregnant or getting an STD in the second place. That even makes common sense. It's called Personal Responsibility. And if you're going to put yourself in that position, you ought to be prepared to handle the responsibilities that come with it and not just kill the kid or foist the responsibility off on other people!
I'd choose to have the baby sent for adoption by a loving family. I'm a Filipino and my country is a conservative Catholic country, that's why abortion is still illegal here in RP. I used to support abortion on grounds of rape or relationships gone bad, but now I symphatise for the baby that would have been deprived of life through abortion. SEND THE POOR BABY TO AN ADOPTION HOUSE INSTEAD OF ABORTING HIM OR HER! LISTEN TO GOD!
Abortion sends babies to heaven faster (If you're christen) and they're technically not babies yet. They can't feel pain or think "What a bitch! my life!" and if a woman who made the decision to have an abortion because she can't support the baby or has a bad.. bad setting..It would be in the best decision to abort it. I definitely wouldn't want a baby without enough financial support for even -me-. And some moms are not even ready. .I don't see any antis to abortion, please fill me in.
TEHOMGZSTFUNOOB, Wrong, at 12 weeks it is a full formed identifiable human being. It has had brain waves for 6 weeks, its heart has been functioning for 8 weeks. All the rest of its human functions are indistinguishable from ours. If the mother's life or the babies life is not in jeopardy then abortion is the worse decision you can make. If the pregnancy is unwanted don't punish the innocent child by killing it, carry the baby to term and put it up for adoption to a loving family.
DanteLacey, when Pro-Lifers decide to start their families, do they just up and have their own babies, or do they practice as they preach and adopt five or six kids that weren't aborted?
Its far better to have an abortion, than to have an unwanted child that everytime you look at it you're gonna absolutely hate it, and wish it had never been born anyway!!!
If a woman really doesn't want do deal with a pregnancy then she should use protection during sex to prevent getting pregnant in the first place. Every baby has a right to life, whether its wanted or not. Also, no woman could ever hate her baby.
I agree with you that prevention is better than cure, but what if the contraception fails, what if the pregnancy is the result of something totally horrific like a rape?
What is the mother supposed to tell her child? Oh you're daddy is a rapist.
Yes; Every baby has a right to life, but what if the Mother has no money, or she really does hate the baby, and she abuses it.
I just think it's far better to have an abortion than to bring a baby into a really shitty,environment with no love or care
Abortion is not the solution. How about carrying the baby to term and then putting it up for adoption to a loving couple. Let me tell you something, I saw this video of an actual abortion. They abortionist used some sort of suction machine. You could see via ultrasound that the terrified little baby was trying frantically to get away from the suction. Now tell me you still agree with abortion
Er so how can a developing featus/unborn baby have the brain capacity to be terrified?
I once had the mentality that abortion was 'killing babies', until a person very close in my life decided for her an abortion was the only was forward.
But then I came to thinking; This is her decision, and it's an extremely tough decision to make.
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion regarding abortion.
We could debate about it forever, but I'm not prepared to do that.
DanteLacey, I have seen the movie you are speaking of, "the Silent Scream". A study of anatomy would tell you that the response of the fetus to the suction was simply a reflex, like when a doctor hits you on the knee. A fetus at that stage doesn't have the mental capacity to be "terrified", or to consciously think about getting away from the suction. The brain is not involved with reflex, only the spinal cord. Therefore, using that footage as an argument against abortion doesn't work.
NDNgirl4ever, Sorry but your wrong. The fetus in that movie was 12 weeks. At 12 weeks it is a fully formed identifiable human being. Its had brain waves for 6 weeks and was more than capable of feeling fear, as was evidenced in its elevated heartbeat. The movements of that fetus when the suction instrument was introduced were not reflexes.
@ILoveMadonnaForever thats why theres a thing called adoption. i came from a mom whos bf ran away once he heard she was pregnant. she scheduled an appointment for an abortion but changed her mind. i got adopted and im thankful she gave me away. otherwise i would be dead.
Well you are one of the lucky ones. A friend of mine was adopted and his family are a good family, but unfortunately he has suffered from depression and he thinks it's from him being adopted and he has attempted suicide on numerous occasions. He was always wondering what his birth Mum was like. So he tracked her down, and she turned out to be a complete and total bitch, and he wished that she had had an abortion insted of giving him up for adoption.
The abortion debate could go round forever without people agreeing.....but I do feel the need to say: I'm a social worker. Believe me, women DO hate their babies. Frequently. And the consequence has been murder on any number of occasions.
This topic is a double whammy. Abortions are bad when you got pregnant, pay for the consequence. But if someone is rapped then it is accepted. Either way both sides are wrong. It's like being in a pool full of piss and someone comes over to dump shit on you. Do you stay up and take the shit or do you go under the piss? But then, why the hell are you in a pool full of piss anyways?
zzzhuh 11 months ago
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An unwanted child is 4 times more likely to become a criminal
IwillKillYourCereal 1 year ago
Hell yea, abortion is murder.
MrsXtina101 1 year ago
Arbortion is Murder.
SubTerraMetalFencer 1 year ago
no one should have an abortion!
annaeharrispink 1 year ago
Why can't people use I.U.D.'s?
It's cheaper than an abortion and you only have to get it once.
MondoBeno 1 year ago
@MondoBeno I.U.D's fail sometimes.
inglebritt 1 year ago
i am basically pro-life but this commercial gives me the creeps--I think that thate are instances when abortion should be practiced--rape, incest, risk to mother's life. I thik it should NEVER be used as a form of birth control
delidude1999 1 year ago
Someone must've been plastered to have sex with that woman.
Long Live Rove v Wade!
kinoptika 1 year ago
And why aren't ads like this on TV today...???
Mikey77B 1 year ago
i'm glad my parents wanted me and don't hate me
Ghostmonsters 1 year ago
I could have saved that skank a couple of bucks by throwing her down a flight of stairs and then rooting around in her box with a rusty coathanger. Top it all off with a shot or two of Drano, and it's bye bye little demon crotch spawn. If more people had abortions, the world would be a much, much better place. Hell, 70% of the people reading this comment probably should have been aborted.
sniper1515 1 year ago
One less retarded kid. :D
WalnutPeanut 1 year ago 2
Here's a really good way to keep from putting yourself in a situation where you think you will "need" an abortion. It's really simple, I promise, and it requires no money and very little effort. Here it is: Abstinence. Can't get pregnant if you don't have sex!
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956
It's called "rape."
PerHV 1 year ago
@PerHV No crap. But I'm willing to bet perfectly good money that the vast majority of those going to abortion clinics are NOT rape victims.
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956 Wow, you're a genius! Did you think of that all yourself?
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict To which comment of mine are you referring?
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956 Abstinence prevents pregnancy? Really? Ever looked at the data? When you tell people to abstain from sex to avoid pregnancy they end up engaging in risky behavior that ends up giving them STD's. Or they end up getting pregnant anyway.
So get real.
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict Um...I AM for real! If you don't have sex, you won't get pregnant! How hard is that to understand? Abstinence is NOT impossible to achieve NOR is it unenjoyable. Abstinence does NOT cause people to engage in risky behavior. People CHOOSE to engage in risky behavior and then, when the consequences for their actions come knocking on their door, they want to blame someone or something else for their actions.
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict That kind of stuff, ie the Blame Game, is as old as time itself. It's even in the Bible, in the story of Adam and Eve. The truth is, though, as Sir Isaac Newton said, "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." For every action, there is a consequence. And if you're going to engage in risky behavior, you'd better be prepared to pay the consequences and not foist the responsibility or the punishment off on something or someONE else, ie an unborn child.
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956 The statistics for abstinence programs are horrible. What happens is people end up engaging in oral and anal sex to avoid pregnancy and the spread of STD's goes way up. Not to mention that people end up having sex anyway and they get pregnant at a MUCH higher rate then those who were taught the realities of sexual education. It's time to drop your Bronze age mentality and get real. People have sex, deal with it.
cant post the link so just google "abstinence programs fail"
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict So, again, if you don't have sex--or engage in risky behaviors--, you won't get pregnant or an STD. Conversely, if you DO have sex and/ or engage in risky behaviors, you will get pregnant or an STD or both. So, cite to me your "sources" for your "data".
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956 Oh geez, no wonder you're in fantasy land. You got your nose stuck in that Bible. Look, I m a preachers kid so theres nothing you can tell me about the Bible that I dont already know. I know you believe in fairy tales and you use a false morality, created by Bronze age simpletons who were very superstitious and uneducated. Newsflash! People have sex! and the more you tell kids not to, they more they do it. The wise approach is to handle it with some common sense
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict Just because you're a preacher's kid doesn't mean you know EVERYTHING about the Bible. So if you were a doctor's kid, would that automatically qualify you to practice medicine? I mean, hey, you were a doctor's kid, so that means you must know everything there is to know about medicine, right? In the same way, just because you're a preacher's kid, it doesn't mean you know EVERYTHING about the Bible. From the way you're talking, obviously you don't.
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict No, the wise approach would be to control yourself and not even put yourself in that position in the first place. Then, you wouldn't even have to worry about being pregnant or getting an STD in the second place. That even makes common sense. It's called Personal Responsibility. And if you're going to put yourself in that position, you ought to be prepared to handle the responsibilities that come with it and not just kill the kid or foist the responsibility off on other people!
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
yuck, so happy those times of oppression are over.
sylvanha 1 year ago 2
Oh, the use of zoom is pure art.
nnNOOOo Doctor!
MorroccoSurrogate 2 years ago
I'd choose to have the baby sent for adoption by a loving family. I'm a Filipino and my country is a conservative Catholic country, that's why abortion is still illegal here in RP. I used to support abortion on grounds of rape or relationships gone bad, but now I symphatise for the baby that would have been deprived of life through abortion. SEND THE POOR BABY TO AN ADOPTION HOUSE INSTEAD OF ABORTING HIM OR HER! LISTEN TO GOD!
owentorres 2 years ago
Abortion sends babies to heaven faster (If you're christen) and they're technically not babies yet. They can't feel pain or think "What a bitch! my life!" and if a woman who made the decision to have an abortion because she can't support the baby or has a bad.. bad setting..It would be in the best decision to abort it. I definitely wouldn't want a baby without enough financial support for even -me-. And some moms are not even ready. .I don't see any antis to abortion, please fill me in.
TEHOMGZSTFUNOOB 2 years ago 2
TEHOMGZSTFUNOOB, Wrong, at 12 weeks it is a full formed identifiable human being. It has had brain waves for 6 weeks, its heart has been functioning for 8 weeks. All the rest of its human functions are indistinguishable from ours. If the mother's life or the babies life is not in jeopardy then abortion is the worse decision you can make. If the pregnancy is unwanted don't punish the innocent child by killing it, carry the baby to term and put it up for adoption to a loving family.
DanteLacey21 2 years ago
Cry more?
TEHOMGZSTFUNOOB 2 years ago
@TEHOMGZSTFUNOOB Win.
donttalktome929 2 years ago
Fuck yeah. *pelvic thrust*.
TEHOMGZSTFUNOOB 2 years ago
DanteLacey, when Pro-Lifers decide to start their families, do they just up and have their own babies, or do they practice as they preach and adopt five or six kids that weren't aborted?
MissKitae 2 years ago 3
I don't know...Nadia Suleman sort of begs to make abortionca mandatory percaution. Actually, keep the kids, and abord Nadia.
Kenner81 2 years ago
whore, she probalby just wants to pork more
Duvmasta 2 years ago
Abortion is wrong. But there would be less of them if women were supported more, emotionally and financially. :)
Herald8 4 years ago 17
@Herald8 Telling people their choices about their own bodies is wrong.
inglebritt 1 year ago
I wish there were more ads like these. It's not up to us to decide whose life is worth living.
Herald8 4 years ago
Its far better to have an abortion, than to have an unwanted child that everytime you look at it you're gonna absolutely hate it, and wish it had never been born anyway!!!
ILoveMadonnaForever 4 years ago 3
ilovemadonnaforever,
If a woman really doesn't want do deal with a pregnancy then she should use protection during sex to prevent getting pregnant in the first place. Every baby has a right to life, whether its wanted or not. Also, no woman could ever hate her baby.
DanteLacey21 2 years ago
I agree with you that prevention is better than cure, but what if the contraception fails, what if the pregnancy is the result of something totally horrific like a rape?
What is the mother supposed to tell her child? Oh you're daddy is a rapist.
Yes; Every baby has a right to life, but what if the Mother has no money, or she really does hate the baby, and she abuses it.
I just think it's far better to have an abortion than to bring a baby into a really shitty,environment with no love or care
ILoveMadonnaForever 2 years ago 19
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DanteLacey21 2 years ago
Ilovemadonnaforever,
Abortion is not the solution. How about carrying the baby to term and then putting it up for adoption to a loving couple. Let me tell you something, I saw this video of an actual abortion. They abortionist used some sort of suction machine. You could see via ultrasound that the terrified little baby was trying frantically to get away from the suction. Now tell me you still agree with abortion
DanteLacey21 2 years ago
Er so how can a developing featus/unborn baby have the brain capacity to be terrified?
I once had the mentality that abortion was 'killing babies', until a person very close in my life decided for her an abortion was the only was forward.
But then I came to thinking; This is her decision, and it's an extremely tough decision to make.
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion regarding abortion.
We could debate about it forever, but I'm not prepared to do that.
My kindest regards to you!
ILoveMadonnaForever 2 years ago 4
DanteLacey, I have seen the movie you are speaking of, "the Silent Scream". A study of anatomy would tell you that the response of the fetus to the suction was simply a reflex, like when a doctor hits you on the knee. A fetus at that stage doesn't have the mental capacity to be "terrified", or to consciously think about getting away from the suction. The brain is not involved with reflex, only the spinal cord. Therefore, using that footage as an argument against abortion doesn't work.
NDNgirl4ever 2 years ago
NDNgirl4ever, Sorry but your wrong. The fetus in that movie was 12 weeks. At 12 weeks it is a fully formed identifiable human being. Its had brain waves for 6 weeks and was more than capable of feeling fear, as was evidenced in its elevated heartbeat. The movements of that fetus when the suction instrument was introduced were not reflexes.
DanteLacey21 2 years ago
@ILoveMadonnaForever, VERY true.
SARDU1976 1 year ago
@ILoveMadonnaForever thats why theres a thing called adoption. i came from a mom whos bf ran away once he heard she was pregnant. she scheduled an appointment for an abortion but changed her mind. i got adopted and im thankful she gave me away. otherwise i would be dead.
BlondeAndBrunette241 11 months ago
@BlondeAndBrunette241
Well you are one of the lucky ones. A friend of mine was adopted and his family are a good family, but unfortunately he has suffered from depression and he thinks it's from him being adopted and he has attempted suicide on numerous occasions. He was always wondering what his birth Mum was like. So he tracked her down, and she turned out to be a complete and total bitch, and he wished that she had had an abortion insted of giving him up for adoption.
ILoveMadonnaForever 11 months ago
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mossytreehead 2 years ago
The abortion debate could go round forever without people agreeing.....but I do feel the need to say: I'm a social worker. Believe me, women DO hate their babies. Frequently. And the consequence has been murder on any number of occasions.
emmascribbles 2 years ago 5
Thats sad,they fight so hard for the right to kill a baby,but also fight so hard to save the life of a convicted killer. Thats fucked up. . .
Manongjojo 4 years ago
Fucking stupid.
DrewPickles666 4 years ago 2
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That sucked.
Abortion is fine IMO, women need to have the right, but Men need to be consulted first too.
Abortion should be illegal if the man says no.
thepeganator 4 years ago
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Abortion is a selfish act of murder, period.
depravedone 4 years ago
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omg that bitch killed her baby
ChicagoDunn 4 years ago