if Pat Robertson would agree with any part of your worldview, you're doing something wrong.
the fetus is a life? to quote doug stanhope, "a genital wart is also a living thing...if it's gonna irritate you for the rest of your life, burn it off."
@peyoteugly That is one of the most dangerous ways to think. You can't judge right or wrong by what others consider right or wrong. At that point you're just as mindless as the blithering right. Abortion is a very grey area, while I believe that abortion has its place, it is something that should be considered an evil that we should work do to away with. Sex education, availability of birth control are a couple ways, but also addressing our economic issues in this country. Get your own mind kid
brings back memories... saw them in indianapolis a bit before this, maybe in 95? If anyone knows how to get in touch with Paul, the guitarist, please let me know.
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i remember this fest well. i'm the dude with the ewing jersey poppin up for the last song......."the fetus is a life! the fetus is a life! the fetus is a life!!!" good times
all you dipshits defending hardline are either young and stupid or else in denial. Anybody who has dealt with those self righteous scumbags over time has seen them reverse themselves over and over again. Fuck off. Come get hardline with me- I've got something in my top drawer for you pricks and it's not a tofu burger.
Hardline kids = future sell outs. If you are dumb enough to buy into that hyper masculine, Abrahamic bullshit, it won't be too long until you are dumb enough to buy into mainstream intoxication culture (as abnegation proved quite well). If there is one area that hardcore has improved since the 90's, it is that only Europeans are naive enough to call themselves hardline anymore. also, vegan reich's music and ideas were ridiculous.
That sounds pretty general. Sounds like you gave up on things yourself and now decide to claim everyone does. I had the exact same political beliefs over 16 years ago as I do now. Labels have nothing to do with future decisions, sincerity does.
HA, sorry pseudo-Freud, but you are way off. Nice try though. By the way, if you have "the exact same political beliefs" that you did 16 years ago it sounds like your beliefs and pretty static.
Still vegan, still the same feeling about the way most governments treat people, still know that this country is run by the rich and large companies. Pretty much the same feelings as I've always had. I'm sorry if knowing your path and sticking too it is too "static" for you. I guess I should switch things up a bit, maybe chow down and a hamburger or something.
Presuming that I have sold out anything that I have believed in simply because I have the good sense and continuity of logic to see through hardline's bullshit is very precious in its child-like simplicity. Since you insist on this assumption with every post it would do you well to know that I have been vegan and straightedge as long as you claim to have been vegan. So "chow down and a hamburger or something" if you want, most hardline/hardline sympathizing kids sure have.
As I "claim" to have been? I have nothing to prove here. I'm way to old to get into an internet argument with children. You made statement that generalizes a large group of people. I've seen some of the most militant and some of the most passive vegans sellout. Selling out has nothing to do with hardline, it has to do with commitment.
You've taken for granted the gift of life. You have abused the miracle of birth as the child is sucked from inside. conception, the beginnings of life. Your reasoning is irrelevant to the situation. Your choice ends when life begins. Their cries will not go unheard.
THE FETUS IS A LIFE...
Hope of Harmony, Jihad and birthright of the best songs abnegation...
Lol, I totally forgot about this band. I thought they always wanted to be Green Rage. I never new them personally, but I always stayed outside when they played. They plated at the Canton YMCA alot if I recall correctly. XabnegationX... I don't remember any good bands from Erie...
all those pro life, conservative edge-mosh bands sucked! its like listning to a metal influenced toby kieth or something. The line up of this show was bad ass though. OLC! Integrity! wow!!! Good shit came out of Clevo... and i like the fact that they hate Earth Crisis just as much as i do
this is awesome. i miss these days. i played guitar in day of suffering. if the guy who recorded this has our set i would love them forever. this show was soooo crazy. girls getting punched in the face. cops stopping the show. one life crew being one life crew. it was insane for sure.
Wow. I recorded this! Cleveland Fest 1996. Abnegation, Integrity, Damnation, Catharsis, Day of Suffering (one of the first shows after changing their name). That was an AMAZING fest. Glad to see this up!
i taped this...how the hell it wound up on youtube 15 yrs later is nutty! Cleveland Hardcore Fest '96 -- we recorded Abnegation, Day of Suffering, and the infamous Integrity set where Dwid ended up punchin some girl in the mouth which led to an all out brawl...good times!
if Pat Robertson would agree with any part of your worldview, you're doing something wrong.
the fetus is a life? to quote doug stanhope, "a genital wart is also a living thing...if it's gonna irritate you for the rest of your life, burn it off."
peyoteugly 5 months ago
@peyoteugly That is one of the most dangerous ways to think. You can't judge right or wrong by what others consider right or wrong. At that point you're just as mindless as the blithering right. Abortion is a very grey area, while I believe that abortion has its place, it is something that should be considered an evil that we should work do to away with. Sex education, availability of birth control are a couple ways, but also addressing our economic issues in this country. Get your own mind kid
heatohio 5 months ago
@heatohio i agree with your points. this band is still clownshoes.
peyoteugly 5 months ago
Ah Columbus fest...the end-all-be-all of 90's P.C police bullshit
TheDeadDoug 7 months ago
R.I.P. Donald Dunar
purplemushroomcloud 9 months ago
theres something kind of fucked up about a bunch of dudes piling up to yell "the fetus is a life" at a hardcore show.
jkakob 9 months ago 2
@jkakob Yeah? And what might that be?
xStaycleanx 9 months ago
@xStaycleanx you mean besides the irony of a punk band advocating abortion in a hardline way?
jkakob 6 months ago
@jkakob I find it more ironic that you think punk is about conforming to one belief.
xStaycleanx 6 months ago
you cant act hard with a lame bowl cut abd a tommy h shirt.....
neglect 1 year ago
@neglect , Iggy was one of the most bad ass hardcore kids in the scene. Try not to slouch it out.
oldgnosticpunk 1 year ago
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greenheatherc 1 year ago
haha okey wtf
skatesftw 1 year ago
what a great band!!!!!!!
stravis32 1 year ago
someone can tell me the names of this 3 songs played by Abnegation in this video please?
elioxunder 1 year ago
@elioxunder first - hopes of harmony, second - jihad, third - shiver (I think so)
fylypekk 1 year ago
@fylypekk
the third song is "birthright"
lauchafelipe 1 year ago
also jihad was probably the best band to play this fest
agricola 1 year ago
day of suffering = best hardline band ever.
agricola 1 year ago
the singer is rockin a gnarly bowl cut, and that chubby guitarist with the black hat doent look like a vegan to me
KimuraSOB666 1 year ago
I was at this show.
WCScum 2 years ago
holy shit this is a blast from the past. thanks for sharing.
cryptomnesiac 2 years ago
No shit, dude. This takes me way back.
14 years later and I'm still going to shows and singing along :)
WCScum 2 years ago
theirs second song... jihad... is so fuckin awsome... why did they break up and sell out :(
fylypekk 2 years ago
hey fuck you before
inthemidnight 2 years ago
Hell of a show. Only time I saw these boys. The Hardcore stuff was great and the Deathmetal too.
WayneNewtonCentaur 3 years ago
brings back memories... saw them in indianapolis a bit before this, maybe in 95? If anyone knows how to get in touch with Paul, the guitarist, please let me know.
JPVeganPower 3 years ago
they have a myspace page
kingkongpingpongdong 2 years ago
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RaegOrap 3 years ago
i remember this fest well. i'm the dude with the ewing jersey poppin up for the last song......."the fetus is a life! the fetus is a life! the fetus is a life!!!" good times
WordUpPeace4138 3 years ago 3
@WordUpPeace4138 you're a fucking moron.
kingnat2 3 months ago
i was at this show... amazing.. great video...
DannibalTheCannibal 3 years ago
all you dipshits defending hardline are either young and stupid or else in denial. Anybody who has dealt with those self righteous scumbags over time has seen them reverse themselves over and over again. Fuck off. Come get hardline with me- I've got something in my top drawer for you pricks and it's not a tofu burger.
bobtherighteous 3 years ago
abnegation kicks ass.!!
jamesarizona1983 4 years ago
Hardline kids = future sell outs. If you are dumb enough to buy into that hyper masculine, Abrahamic bullshit, it won't be too long until you are dumb enough to buy into mainstream intoxication culture (as abnegation proved quite well). If there is one area that hardcore has improved since the 90's, it is that only Europeans are naive enough to call themselves hardline anymore. also, vegan reich's music and ideas were ridiculous.
nowruinis 4 years ago
That sounds pretty general. Sounds like you gave up on things yourself and now decide to claim everyone does. I had the exact same political beliefs over 16 years ago as I do now. Labels have nothing to do with future decisions, sincerity does.
heatohio 4 years ago
HA, sorry pseudo-Freud, but you are way off. Nice try though. By the way, if you have "the exact same political beliefs" that you did 16 years ago it sounds like your beliefs and pretty static.
nowruinis 4 years ago
Still vegan, still the same feeling about the way most governments treat people, still know that this country is run by the rich and large companies. Pretty much the same feelings as I've always had. I'm sorry if knowing your path and sticking too it is too "static" for you. I guess I should switch things up a bit, maybe chow down and a hamburger or something.
heatohio 4 years ago 4
Presuming that I have sold out anything that I have believed in simply because I have the good sense and continuity of logic to see through hardline's bullshit is very precious in its child-like simplicity. Since you insist on this assumption with every post it would do you well to know that I have been vegan and straightedge as long as you claim to have been vegan. So "chow down and a hamburger or something" if you want, most hardline/hardline sympathizing kids sure have.
nowruinis 4 years ago
As I "claim" to have been? I have nothing to prove here. I'm way to old to get into an internet argument with children. You made statement that generalizes a large group of people. I've seen some of the most militant and some of the most passive vegans sellout. Selling out has nothing to do with hardline, it has to do with commitment.
heatohio 4 years ago
You've taken for granted the gift of life. You have abused the miracle of birth as the child is sucked from inside. conception, the beginnings of life. Your reasoning is irrelevant to the situation. Your choice ends when life begins. Their cries will not go unheard.
THE FETUS IS A LIFE...
Hope of Harmony, Jihad and birthright of the best songs abnegation...
xmoskarx 4 years ago
The fetus is a life! The fetus is a life! THE FETUS IS A LIFE!
Bring back the days of good hardline hardcore!
Drewshouldntsk8 4 years ago
say we wanted to be earth crisis but green rage...have you ever listened to green rage?because we didn't sound a thing like em.
igpoppa 4 years ago
Is that you Iggy? This is Jesse. This show was fun times.
heatohio 4 years ago
Lol, I totally forgot about this band. I thought they always wanted to be Green Rage. I never new them personally, but I always stayed outside when they played. They plated at the Canton YMCA alot if I recall correctly. XabnegationX... I don't remember any good bands from Erie...
mysneakersarered 4 years ago
Nothing like green rage, Erie bands fuckin rocked. I'll stop talking now
purplemushroomcloud 4 years ago
Oh man they're sooo bad, who they fuck are they?:)
Flowbro81 4 years ago
all those pro life, conservative edge-mosh bands sucked! its like listning to a metal influenced toby kieth or something. The line up of this show was bad ass though. OLC! Integrity! wow!!! Good shit came out of Clevo... and i like the fact that they hate Earth Crisis just as much as i do
LCKmurder 4 years ago
fucking amazing
2006munyon 4 years ago
this is awesome. i miss these days. i played guitar in day of suffering. if the guy who recorded this has our set i would love them forever. this show was soooo crazy. girls getting punched in the face. cops stopping the show. one life crew being one life crew. it was insane for sure.
anarchobikepunk 4 years ago
Wow. I recorded this! Cleveland Fest 1996. Abnegation, Integrity, Damnation, Catharsis, Day of Suffering (one of the first shows after changing their name). That was an AMAZING fest. Glad to see this up!
mykectown 5 years ago
GOOOOOOOD..
VAGOSDEHOY 5 years ago
Day of Suffering played?! what a killer show!
poiuytrew2 5 years ago
Fucking epic. Thanks for the VID!!!
poiuytrew2 5 years ago
i dont think the fat guy playing bass is VEGAN
Hooklineansinker 5 years ago
lol nope, he was the replacement for the bass player that had an aneurysm
purplemushroomcloud 4 years ago
I missed these guys every time they played in my area and they were always a favorite of mine. Thanks for posting this!
XKachoOjiX 5 years ago
i was told that day of suffering played that show too...
murderinhiseyes 5 years ago
@murderinhiseyes Don't think so, Day of Suffering didn't exist then (this is from the Cleveland fest, right?)
gooseass 1 year ago
@gooseass day of suffering did play, i should know, i played guitar in day of suffering. this was the first show we played as day of suffering.
veganpunxforlife 1 year ago
@murderinhiseyes
i taped this...how the hell it wound up on youtube 15 yrs later is nutty! Cleveland Hardcore Fest '96 -- we recorded Abnegation, Day of Suffering, and the infamous Integrity set where Dwid ended up punchin some girl in the mouth which led to an all out brawl...good times!
greenheatherc 1 year ago
@greenheatherc bro upload the day of suffering footage please if you still have it. i would love to see that
kickouttheyuppies 1 year ago
Abnegation needs to stay in the burbs where they belong!
felixzero 5 years ago
best band ever
supermandre 5 years ago
abnegation fucking rules
xVEGANJUSTICEx 5 years ago
dude wow, that is amazing. that was 8 years ago, i was 5 years old, i cant amagine that happinging that long ago. CRAZY, tell me about this band!
vandilism33 5 years ago