when Chasers made the evil bunny one I thought they were kidding. Wow that's bad. I mean wow. I am speechless with complete utter shame at that video.
@Gazmanaust that wasn't a strike. It wasn't the unions. That was the management of QANTAS. The employees got kicked out of their hotels too - stranded overseas just like all their passengers!! QANTAS is screwed up all right but it's not the unions' fault! I concede that the management were pissed off at the unions, but what kind of an IDIOT shuts down a national ICONIC airline on CHOGM AND THE MELBOURNE CUP????? those guys have a bad business sense, to say the least.
I won't vote for liberals while they have that crazy bastard tony abbott in control. If labor is so bad for business why is australia in the best economic shape we have ever been in?
walkabout09 works for the Liberal party and is making up lies about Victorian Labor so Liberal win the election, don't believe him! Labor have done much much better in Victoria than Liberal! walkabout09 is a Liberal cock head! trust me.
And yet, Victoria has been rated as the safest state in Australia with a crime reduction rate of 68% since 2001, over the past 2 years, the crime reduction rate was 30%. When Liberal was in power, crime was going up, that's because Liberal cut so many Police Jobs and close so many Police Stations, because Liberal don't care, they say they will do something an yet Liberal never do it, at the 1996 election, Liberal said they'll employ an extra 2.000 Police but instead they fired 800.
Myki never cost 1.5 billion dickhead, we all know the facts because it states that in budget documents, and the desal plant never cost that much, walkabout09 works for the Liberal party, he's trying to make Labor look bad when there not, and Victoria has the lowest rate of stamp duty in Australia, i checked and is 14% lower than the next lowest in Australia.
The last time the Liberal party were in power in Victoria, they closed more than 300 schools, 100 schools,, 5 train lines, cut 800 Police jobs instead of employing 2.000 as they first said, and Liberal cut 2.900 Medical Jobs, and, Liberal got rid of tram conductors! they even closed Police stations, i would never vote for Liberal in Victoria again!! this election i'm voting Labor, they have done so much better!!!!!!!
2nd of all money going to labor costs goes back into the economy while money going to profits tends to disappear.
to claim pro-union is anti-business is a little ridiculous. Unions are only a problem for business that are run unscrupulously, therefor this add implies that for business to be successful morals must be thrown to the wayside.
Anyway doesn't the Title LABOR GOVERNMENT imply that they are looking out for the interests of LABOR?
LOL the Liberal Party stinks. If they win the next election this country is doomed, Abbott is a parasite, what a fkn embarrassment if he becomes PM. If they had been in charge of getting us through the economic downturn we'd all be in shit up to our ears. Their budget response this year was the worst in at least a decade. No idea.
@snowangel1100 Hi. Yes, this was an actual Liberal campaign ad that was shown on tv during the 2007 election campaign, except that the authorization at the end has been deleted. Good luck with your assignment! rgds, Kevvys
Any responcible person interested in thir standard of living and civil participation generally should think about joining a trade union. Unions are made up ordinary people and have more often then not been a force for good in peoples lives and society. Australia, Uk and others owe their high standards of living to trade unionism and even many civil liberties. Its the difference between us and say, India. The Liberal Party just wants Aus. to be a playground for their rich mates and u2b a serf.
unions? anti business?.... unions support the average worker! imagine if work choices stayed in the country? with no support- negotiating YOUR pay rate to managment, on YOUR OWN, with NO support?
I apologise, my previous comment exceeded the character limit. So, furthermore, what does your last statement mean? So i quote; 'though i do have to say rudd, you fucking idiot ' Please explain what that means.
Also, do you think that handing out $900 dollars to the unemployed and single mothers is a good method of stimulation of the economy? It is evident; Rudd is Panicking.
Please explain the first inquiry of your most recent comment. How did the Liberals support the Global recession? Australia is, to put it bluntly, a speck in the maelstrom. Furthermore, the Liberals did come up with an idea. An idea that was much more senseble than Rudds reckless, ineffective spending spree; A stimulis bill based on infrastructure and tax cuts. That would create jobs, and take some of the burden off working families. A much smaller deficit too.
lets see, kevin been a complete fuck wit in parlament and fucking up just about everything he could legaly do and still get away without pissin dum shits off
good on you for admitting it! but a lot of ppl fell for Kevin's spin and hype. lets hope that enough voters now realize that he is all talk, and what he does do he stuffs up anyway, and the Libs can get back in this year, and stop the skyrocketing debt we will have to repay, and the waste of taxpayers money by this govt.
so its ok for the libs to sit on revenue and refuse to pay a single sent on infrastructure?
if you ran a business- you'd spend money to advance, move forward, upgrade, renew.... the government now is making these upgrades that have been needed for YEARS.
I wouldn't vote for either of the christian fundementalist whack jobs on offer. Australia needs to do something to protect its secularism and democracy.
Ideological tripe! where would the justice be for James Hardy's asbestos victims without the unions?? We need to keep checks and balances in the workplace ALWAYS!
Yes unions are good for workers, but we don't want them running the country! How many times does it need to be said the that Liberal Party is not anti-union, just anti-union control.
A vote for Rudd is a vote for the unknown. And the real losers will be Aussie workers. Watch the jobs disappear overnight with the re-introduction of the unfair dismissal laws, and the abolition of IR reforms. No one in small business will be employing if Rudd wins.
Well of course, Labour stands for workers rights. Howard has screwed the country and says tha economy is great, well what about the citizens of the country? Never been worse off FACT!
kevvys1a1woos, get real, you know that is all crap, just can't think of anything original to say. Trade unions do a good job, collective bargaining is a good thing - it provides workers with eqality of power - work choices creates inequality between worker and management.
I know nothing of the sort. Are you suggesting there's no difference between Liberal and Labor ideology? And how do you explain for example union instigated strikes that drive companies to the wall and out of business effectively causing the employees to cut their own throats by losing their jobs?
There is a superficial differing in ideology...at least rhetorical ideology
whoever is in power (out of our huge realistic choice of two 8-| ) has access to the same body of public servants who make up the same policies regardless of party
Both parties have sold our public assets - things that had already belonged to the Australian people...what did I get from it??? they sold something I was a part owner in!!!!
work choices puts workers in their place... below the people that employed them... before liberal, before work choices the workers ruled the employers, now the employers rule the workers and thats how it should be
You are a friggin idiot - with a discerning and incisive mind like that you should have a long and prosperous career as a register operator. JUST a thought mate - WHERE would K Mart be without workers? Who really has the power?? Work choices removes market conditions from the labour market - the libs have freed up every other market in the nation!! something stinks!!
Where would KMart be without workers?? where would KMart workers be without KMart! Businesses provide workers with jobs. The jobs would not exist otherwise. Or are you too stupid to understand this simple fact?
After 11 years of manipulating the Australian people with immoral lies and scare campaigns, nothing the Libs claim anymore seems credible, including all this union nonsense. And before some nutcase Howard supporter jumps up to throw out misleading statistics about the unions, I have only one thing to say: Howard is a compulsive liar (want me to catalogue the lies?), so what makes the supporter of a compulsive liar any more believable?
Just to set the record straight, no I'm not. I'm just a private citizen and voter! This all started because my comments on Krudds websites and videos weren't being posted, as I say on my page if you bother to read it. I complained on a political ng, and someone suggested I start my own page if I wanted to have a say, so I did!
And you're not as clever as you think you are, because if my aim was simply to have a pro-liberal site, i would be deleting anti-liberal comments, just like your hero Krudd deletes anti-Labor ones! Have a nice day.. and I suggest that you leave the detective work to someone else in future.
My god...Australian life was SO MUCH BETTER when we had more union influence in the 1980's - The liberal party has it all wrong; for the first time in my life...I will vote for Labor
So that life can still have a little of the stuff that makes it worth living!!!
mate, no one is denying that a small amount of union representation is good for australia's wellbeing and the economy, but is this the amount of union representation you want?
you still don't counter the claim that life was better in the 1980's
Today I found myself longing for the good days of Bob Hawke; People with a job like mine could afford a house and a boat and several cars...back in the day!!!
P.S. Fight inflation first...WOW...they've done a great job of that :-D))))))) (refering to both labor and liberals)
mate i was born in 1989, i know very little about the life in 1980's. However, from my studies and personal research, I do know that the Liberal government over the past decade has been exceptional. The economy has grown substantially, our national security has never been better, and the government has funded social services supurbly without affecting our economy.
Sure, the interest rates have risen slightly over the past year especially, but they havent even come close to what they reached under any labor government. Why try and fix something that isn't broken? And i can assure that no society can prosper under that much union representation. They have helped labor buy the election, and will definitely have a negative impact on our county - and buying a house will be made even harder, let me assure you.
(that comment was dripping in sarcasm but i thought i better point it out for you because ur little labor-voting brain probably couldnt have worked that out)
mate, all due respect, u are an idiot- anyone that votes labor under the age of 25 is misled because they havent witnessed the wrath of a previous labor government, but anyone over the age of 25 is an idiot. full stop.
'tmathe01' you should take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror...because you're in danger of developing into an ugly human being
Good governance means governing for all...instead we have a government intent on making average citizens work for Chinese sweatshop wages - if you think this is good governmetn...you have a diseased mind
fair enough mate... i'm not going to argue any more because my sentiments about the way australia should be governed are never going to change lol. thanks for taking the time to talk to me.
Tolerant soul aren't we!! Says it all about the standards Howard has engendered in Aussie society.
Shallow ideology based solely on piss poor economic principals - screw the worker and screw the planet. MEN AND WOMEN OF AUSTRALIA HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER OFF - BULLSHIT - get some experience about you BOY - then regurgitate this crap, IF YOU STILL BELIEVE IT!!
fuck off mate, the liberal party have addressed every major issue that this world has to offer in a sensible manner, without compromising our economy.
we have the lowest unemployment rate ever, and we have one of the best social and national security policies in the world.
there is a key difference between you and me; i am a realist who has the best interests of everyone at heart, and you are a 'bleeding-heart' idiot who has no what it takes to run a succesful, prosperous country.
Well said, lol! It seems that we need to speak to labor voters in a manner that they can comprehend! Not much has been said in this campaign about national security, but I'm very fearful that if Labor wins it will be severely compromised, and they'll be a real risk of a terrorist attack on Australian soil.
Lots of young pups sure voted yesterday, and they got it right!!
How is your world today, sky fallen in,unions come by in the night and scare you. Who is really the woos. You can't shaft most of the people most of the time and expect a favour on election day. Beaten in his own electorate - worlds best PM. HA HA Bullshit!!
No they got it wrong because they were ignorant. It will take a while for the effects of Labor's rule to kick in- prob not until 2009- since Labor will be riding for a while on the strong economic position and prosperity that Howard created.
Even the libs are sitting down and having a look at where they went wrong - get your head out of your arse, and your text books and have a good hard look!!
Australia is already a better, fairer, prouder place. Long live Rudd, Long may he reign.
Good choice of word there - reign. With his ego he thinks he'll be running the country all by himself. He's yet to learn such is not the case, and he'll be doing the bidding of his union masters, and the powers that be within the ALP. But probably his 'reign' will be short lived. Voters will most likely have seen the true face of Labor come the next election. Have a nice day.. and goodbye!
Have a nice day and goodbye yourself dick head. The fuckin weazel Howard had more grace than you. Surrounded himself with the likes of you though, that's why he lost his seat - Fuckwits like you make decent people sick. Now You can fuck off.
Hey buddy.. i don't owe you any grace or anything else. you've come on my vids hurling insults and abuse and bad language around, and yet expect me to be nice to you?!? well I'm Peter, not St.Peter. goodbye and good riddance. (you're blocked) but thanks for reminding us of the sort of ppl who form Labor's support base.
and a lot of young pups saw their job security being flushed away
Bad liberal policy forced people to abandon this party...whose idea was it anyway???
P.S. my bet...Malcolm Turnbull will be the next liberal leader (it wouldn't surprise me if the entire idiocy of work choices was the idea of his personal supporters; who realised that through this chain of events he could seize power)
"a lot of young pups saw their job security being flushed away". Absolutely. Altho it will take a while for them to realize it. Yes, Turnbull will lead the party now, and take the fight to Labor. But I suggest that your remark that he orchestrated Howard's downfall is rather fanciful.
look at how he orchestrated himself into the seat of Wentworth...there was a reason why the Labor party rejected him (when he tried to join there first) Or John Howard's shifting electoratal boundaries :-)
How else can you explain the lunacy of work choices...it wasn't for the 'Aussie Battler' whom Howard relied upon; in any case...it makes an interesting story in this over active imagination I have ;-)
the interesting thing is that the polls showed that wen pp were asked if they would vote liberal in preference to labor if howard stayed on pp said yes. i honestly think that costello undermining howard was the only reason the liberals lost the election
With respect.. why is it still a dream? With a job like that you should have a good income. and in outer suburban areas 3 bdrm modern brick veneer homes on good sized blocks can be had for less than $200,000.
One topic that isn't receiving much attention in the current debate is national security. Howard has keep Australia terrorism-free, and I suggest that that's a reason people don't think so much about it. But could we really trust Labor to be so vigilant and diligent? I say certainly not!
Where have you been since 1999???? Even a small block of land without a house is almost $300,000
I cannot even afford a home at Maitland; let alone a fibro shack 8-| :'(
That's just the point...I don't get a good income...because I get screwed over by my boss'; who enters into pay negotiations with a team of negotiators...without the aide of collective representation; I am on - sadly, very little
I work over 16 hours a day to do my job (getting paid the full time hours of 7)
Sydney's dearer than Melb for sure, but still plenty of housing here in the $150k - $250k price bracket. And in rural Australia of course, you can buy houses for $10k - $20k, or even just a few thousand dollars in some places. (not suggesting that you would want to live in a rural area tho of course)
LOL ah these straw men scare tactics make me laugh. My old mans a member of the teachers federation. He also votes Liberal. So is he anti-business just because he's part of a union?? I respect the vote of every person, but "kevvys1a1woos", if you actually believe these Liberal commercials, than your stupider than the average 60 year old die hard conservative, and that's saying a lot.
What would be really stupid is a bunch of Union hacks trying to run a trillion dollar economy. Better brush up your résumé, and see if you can refinance your mortgage if Labor gets in- if you can understand what I'm saying.
I don't think the liberals can really lay claim to that
John Howard was one of the worst treasuers we had...Malcolm Fraser was terrified of being usurped- as he had gotten his top job the same way...so he surrounded himself with the most incompetant people his party had to offer. John Howard included
Now, John Howard also surrounds himself with lacklustre idiots
Well we could argue all day, but I'm firmly of the view that if Rudd is elected to power, we will live to regret it. And as an aside.. Did you catch his policy speech? "I will do this, i will do that.." Unlike Howard no mention or acknowledgement of his team. No deference to Gillard- the 2nd most powerful person in the Labor camp. The guys on a ego trip.
I think Greg Combet will make a fantastic PM one day. Maybe he'll take over from Rudd in 2014--if we are lucky. Guess we should just crush those lowlife Libs first.
So, essentially what they are saying here is that these people all have leadership experience in democratic organisations, representing hard working people in their plight for a fair go. Is that what they are saying? Sounds like damn good experience to me--I guess I'll vote Labor then.
No, not really. Yes they are saying they are experienced union officials, but also that that is not sufficient or suitable experience or qualification for a ministerial appointment. No doubt most sensible thinking voters would agree. And the other consideration is whether ministers with such vested interest would govern in the best interests of ALL Australians.
What exactly do you think is "sufficient or suitable experience or qualification for a ministerial appointment?" Do you believe that people who have been involved with unions should be precluded? Do you believe unionist are bad or evil?
And now you speak for most sensible thinking voters, do you? Do you really believe that the Howard Govt. would/does govern in the best interests of ALL Australians and without vested interests, do you? You're one indoctrinated puppy.
At least we know that many of the ALP people have experience standing-up to greedy big corporate business--you know, the ones who are constantly creating new markets for consumables which we don't want or need. The ones killing our planet and the future of all known living things.
If you really give a crap about your grandkids then DONT VOTE LIBERAL--cause that ultra-conservative mindset really will be the death of us all [via climate change and/or war]. These people think they're right about everything. They never compromise, discuss or concede. It's just not in their nature. Just look at Iraq! "You're either with us or against us," says the neo-con grand master George W, or is Cheney the grand master? I dunno.
Look at Cheney's voting record on wikipedia and tell me he's not pure evil. These are people whom John Howard strongly identifies with. It really is all about the ruling class/corporate elites.
How do you get the right experience if you've never had the job...John Howard had no experience as a Prime Minsiter before he was elected :-/
by that logic of experience we should all still be voting for Edmund Barton's decendants...after all, they are the ones imbued with the experience...everyone else elected after was without as much
He had plenty of experience- as a career politician and leader of the liberal party. And of course everyone has vested interests, but we need to look at what those interests are, and the ramifications of that.
at a time of high inflation this equals interest rate hikes, the RBA thinks this will spike at 7.25% next year.
the wheels are coming off this campaign in spectacular fashion. Howard must drop his campaign slogan as economic conservatism is not going for growth at this point.
haha, very funny. But why won't Labor voters face the fact that they'll be voting for a bunch of ex-union bosses with no real experience or qualifications, and therefore no ability, to manage our economy and the nations affairs? -just as the ads say. Oh, I guess it's because they have no answer. Vote Labor and watch Australia go down the drain folks! Maybe Peter Garrett can entertain us with some of his err.. music. You know, somewhat akin to Nero fiddling while Rome burned.
If you actually believe your own dribble I feel really sorry for you. You can look forward to better mental health services under a Labor government though.
Well we'll see where we are three years from now if Labor is elected won't we. If history is anything to go by, it'll be just a matter of time before the electorate has to vote the Libs in again to clean up Labor's mess. And I see you can't answer the question about Labor's lack of talent either. nuff said!
Government departments run the country, the ministers are strategic guidance. I suppose those talentless Labor pollies must be a bit better than you, why aren't you there?
Why aren't I what? Ministers make decisions based on advice from the department. Some like Kev Andrews will make it up on the fly and throw doctors out of the country for no reason.
Kevin's PR team has been doing a great job. A man with no substance has been portrayed as a fresh man for our country's future!!! But, I haven't seen the Liberal PR team has such great achievement. I've just watched a similar anti-union TV ad and it ended with the words "Australians, you'll pay for it". The ad is simply ineffective!!! I guess it may even back-fire!!! If the words had been changed to "Do Australians want such a future?" the message can really be heard then.
I'm in a union, what is wrong with that. I cannnot see anything wrong with being a trade unionist, I expect that most of the country is or was. Not everyone is in business Mr Howard! Some of us work for wages and like to think that we're protected. Stop the scare tactics, they're not working.
No ones saying that there's anything wrong with being a member of a Union, and certainly not the PM. This is not about Union membership, but Union control of the government, and therefore control of our nations future and the lives of all Australians.
Howard says 70% of the labor party are unionists, thus unionists will run the government, what is wrong with people who are affiliated with workers supporting their constituants? The government campaign is designed to paint a picture of mistrust in unionists. As a unionist, I take offence!
Most of Labors team are not just unionists, but Union officials or ex-union officials or bosses. Firstly we need to ask if such persons posses the necessary skills to adequately perform as government ministers, let alone admirably perform, and secondly whether they would govern in the best interests of ALL Australians.
If its an opinion make sure you make it known to those around you, some may take it as fact.
I didn't express an opinion, the track records are a solid fact of the fantastic economic policies that unionists put together.
The 'fact' raised in the commercial that unionists can't run a country is not a fact, its nothing but a scare campaign, preying on those who do not understand.
You are expressing an opinion, whether you admit it or not- the opinion that it's irrelevant that the majority of Labor's team are union or ex-union officials, or even that it could be a good thing, and that the performance of two past Labor unionists is indicative of the ability of unionists presently in the Labor team.
70% trade unionists? What about almost all of the liberal govt.being lawyers or bankers with a huge affiliation with business.Not to mention JH predecessor Mr Costello who is the co-founder of the HR Nicholls Society,which as a group was designed to destroy the unions and the pay,conditions and basic democratic rights of every working Australian.The funny thing is the govt.thinks we should be scared of unions when their agenda will be so much more devastating towards Aust. and its people.
Are you really this dumb or are you just pretending?
Hawke and Keating put us INTO the recession.
The only reason Labor governments are voted in after Liberal governments is because the economy has been restored and they think "Oh well let's throw all the money away!"
Did you know when we had that recession all those yrs ago it was a world wide recession?It was key policies from Keating and a resourses boom that has seen our economy grow.
And sooner or later Liberal govts are always voted back in again to clean up Labor's mess. The only time Australia ever lost it's AAA credit rating was under a Labor govt. And the only govt in Australia's history so incompetent and corrupt that it had to be dismissed by the Governor General was of course the Whitlam Labor govt.
I think you need to brush up on your history and stop living in the past. Howard has had long enough to do what he is now promising so maybe it's time we put Labor in so they can actually make some changes that people will see. For 75% of my life, pretty much all of my life that I can remember, I haven't seen many practical changes to our society.
Many of those years however were spent cleaning up Labor's mess!- eliminating the $96 billion debt and it's $6 billion pa interest bill, restoring Australia's AAA credit rating, eliminating union control of the labor force and creating new jobs and lowering unemployment, interest rates, and inflation, and more.
But now that a stable and sound economic position and environment has been established, and the govt is able to give back to the community, the electorate seems ready to vote Labor back in and screw it all up again! Could we any more ungrateful and unkind?
5 major economic reforms brought to you by ALP and the Unions 1.floating the dollar 2.deregulating the banks 3.enterprise bargaining 4.superannuation 5.eliminating tarrifs. Howard and Costello's contribution? A GST. No Workchoices is not a reform - its a retrograde step to the Master and Servants Act. The real cost of a mortgages and owning a home is 2x now under JWH than it ever was under Hawke/Keating.
I've just seen interest rates go up, my parents suffer because of that, I've seen the GST come into practice, I've seen private schools receive more funding and a new performing arts centre whilst my school gets another portable.
In regards to the history part, Kerr was a dishonest bastard. He was just afraid of Whitlam making him lose his job. Such an Un-Australian thing to do by backstabbing Whitlam. Scab.
Interest rates have always been lower on average under the Liberals than under Labor. Do you think that if Rudd is elected, suddenly interest rates will go down? they won't, and it's pounds to peanuts that they'll go up!
Who the hell has been *managing* our 1.1 trillion-gazillion-billion dollar (move over Dr Evil) economy for the last 11 years??! Costello has been sitting in a hammock (gotta love Keating!) for the last 11 years!!!
Lol! Why don't you tell us about those L.A.W tax cuts, the 'banana republic', or Standard and Poors ratings downgrades during the reign of the 'world's greatest treasurer' ?
It has been a long road back, and it has taken a lot of work. But Standard and Poor's has now recognised that Australia's financial position is strong again and we are AAA. (from the website of the Treasurer. YT won't let us put links here)
Today (17th. Feb 2003) the international rating agency Standard and Poor's upgraded Australia's foreign currency credit rating to AAA. It is a rating which Australia lost during the Labor period, the `Banana Republic' period of 1986, when Australia had its first downgrade and its second in 1989.
C'mon, be honest how. Do you really believe that Wayne Swan would be a better treasurer than Peter Costello? or that Union controlled Labor will do a better job of running the country?
Oh and we should listen to the lying Liberals should we?, at least Labor never claimed to control interest rates as Howard and Costello had claimed to do.
Maybe your idea of good way to run the economy is to 'double' tax the hard working Australian public and drive the gap between the rich and the poor to the extreme, which mind you according to a AC Nielsen report the gap is at its largest in Australian history.
Previous "UNION" Labor governments such as the Hawke and Keating governments pulled this country out of one of the worst 'global' recessions of all time. Even after the failure of Treasurer John Howard not bale to keep the Australian Economy afloat, surging our interest rates to 22% (90 Day Bank Bill - April 1982) and then capping the Reserve Bank from pushing it higher.
With problems in the US, with a recession of the horizon there, things could get messy. Who do you want in charge, a Liberal Government that has a record of paving the way to recessions, and preventing regulatory bodies rectifying the problem with rate caps. or a "UNION" Labor Government that rolls up their sleeves and does what "has to be done" to see this nation through the times "GOOD" and "BAD".
I will be happy to rid this country of the Liberal Government, and get some fresh ideas into 'really' making this economy strong. (not just because of resource booms.)
When you see the Liberals bashing unions you know they've given up on the election. One has to question their intelligence for the fact that they're even bothering to run this line, because it's sure as hell not making any dint in the opinion polls. But then, the electoral smarts of the Liberal Party are already pretty questionable given they can't seem to win an election anywhere in the country.
When you see Labor voters ignoring the warnings of these messages, you know they've given up on rational thought. One has to question their intelligence, period!
Julia Gillard was a member of a dangerous far-left radical communist leaning organisation called the Socialist Forum as recent as 2002. If a Rudd Labor government is elected, Australians will have a dangerous government. Don't risk Australia's trillion dollar economy on unionists and a former communist .
OMG...
*hangs head ashamed*
when Chasers made the evil bunny one I thought they were kidding. Wow that's bad. I mean wow. I am speechless with complete utter shame at that video.
(ps to the Libs: PEOPLE LIKE UNIONS!)
TheSonicBuzz2011 3 months ago
@TheSonicBuzz2011 they're sure doing their best to fuck over qantas at the moment
Gazmanaust 3 months ago
@Gazmanaust that wasn't a strike. It wasn't the unions. That was the management of QANTAS. The employees got kicked out of their hotels too - stranded overseas just like all their passengers!! QANTAS is screwed up all right but it's not the unions' fault! I concede that the management were pissed off at the unions, but what kind of an IDIOT shuts down a national ICONIC airline on CHOGM AND THE MELBOURNE CUP????? those guys have a bad business sense, to say the least.
TheSonicBuzz2011 2 months ago
"anti-business union officials".... HAHAHAHAHA....
imlay1992 4 months ago
I won't vote for liberals while they have that crazy bastard tony abbott in control. If labor is so bad for business why is australia in the best economic shape we have ever been in?
hecktick133 4 months ago
Great to Mr Abbott, annoying the green Gillard/Brown government!
MRMILO57 8 months ago
70% of the government will be run by UNIONS?
You mean, the democratic organizations whose goal is to increase the pay of working people? Holy shit.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago 3
what a load of crap
Ihatedawannabes 1 year ago
walkabout09 works for the Liberal party and is making up lies about Victorian Labor so Liberal win the election, don't believe him! Labor have done much much better in Victoria than Liberal! walkabout09 is a Liberal cock head! trust me.
myvistahosting 1 year ago 15
And yet, Victoria has been rated as the safest state in Australia with a crime reduction rate of 68% since 2001, over the past 2 years, the crime reduction rate was 30%. When Liberal was in power, crime was going up, that's because Liberal cut so many Police Jobs and close so many Police Stations, because Liberal don't care, they say they will do something an yet Liberal never do it, at the 1996 election, Liberal said they'll employ an extra 2.000 Police but instead they fired 800.
myvistahosting 1 year ago 4
Myki never cost 1.5 billion dickhead, we all know the facts because it states that in budget documents, and the desal plant never cost that much, walkabout09 works for the Liberal party, he's trying to make Labor look bad when there not, and Victoria has the lowest rate of stamp duty in Australia, i checked and is 14% lower than the next lowest in Australia.
myvistahosting 1 year ago 4
The last time the Liberal party were in power in Victoria, they closed more than 300 schools, 100 schools,, 5 train lines, cut 800 Police jobs instead of employing 2.000 as they first said, and Liberal cut 2.900 Medical Jobs, and, Liberal got rid of tram conductors! they even closed Police stations, i would never vote for Liberal in Victoria again!! this election i'm voting Labor, they have done so much better!!!!!!!
myvistahosting 1 year ago 28
@myvistahosting just look at the NSW industrial relations law changes= mini-covert workchoices
MrSystematica 6 months ago
1st of all who was that random guy?
2nd of all money going to labor costs goes back into the economy while money going to profits tends to disappear.
to claim pro-union is anti-business is a little ridiculous. Unions are only a problem for business that are run unscrupulously, therefor this add implies that for business to be successful morals must be thrown to the wayside.
Anyway doesn't the Title LABOR GOVERNMENT imply that they are looking out for the interests of LABOR?
poleske 1 year ago
Hey, the guy from Midnight Oil isn't a unionist!
plusplusplusplusp 1 year ago
LOL the Liberal Party stinks. If they win the next election this country is doomed, Abbott is a parasite, what a fkn embarrassment if he becomes PM. If they had been in charge of getting us through the economic downturn we'd all be in shit up to our ears. Their budget response this year was the worst in at least a decade. No idea.
cherton 1 year ago 3
how true.
whessly 1 year ago
sorry but is this an actual ad authorised by the gov or a made up one. i'm using it for a project if its legit. thanks!!
snowangel1100 1 year ago
@snowangel1100 Hi. Yes, this was an actual Liberal campaign ad that was shown on tv during the 2007 election campaign, except that the authorization at the end has been deleted. Good luck with your assignment! rgds, Kevvys
kevvys1a1woos 1 year ago
woooo go unions!
TheA340guy 1 year ago
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Tuathalful 1 year ago
Any responcible person interested in thir standard of living and civil participation generally should think about joining a trade union. Unions are made up ordinary people and have more often then not been a force for good in peoples lives and society. Australia, Uk and others owe their high standards of living to trade unionism and even many civil liberties. Its the difference between us and say, India. The Liberal Party just wants Aus. to be a playground for their rich mates and u2b a serf.
Tuathalful 1 year ago
unions? anti business?.... unions support the average worker! imagine if work choices stayed in the country? with no support- negotiating YOUR pay rate to managment, on YOUR OWN, with NO support?
wnxsystem 1 year ago
dammit! backtobelmore.. I accidentally removed your comment by clicking the wrong link! I intended to reply. Sorry about that.
kevvys1a1woos 1 year ago
Labour does not work.
balancedaustralia 1 year ago
Perhaps.... but I doubt we're going to change from the Westminster system anytime soon.
symons3569 2 years ago
I apologise, my previous comment exceeded the character limit. So, furthermore, what does your last statement mean? So i quote; 'though i do have to say rudd, you fucking idiot ' Please explain what that means.
Also, do you think that handing out $900 dollars to the unemployed and single mothers is a good method of stimulation of the economy? It is evident; Rudd is Panicking.
symons3569 2 years ago
Please explain the first inquiry of your most recent comment. How did the Liberals support the Global recession? Australia is, to put it bluntly, a speck in the maelstrom. Furthermore, the Liberals did come up with an idea. An idea that was much more senseble than Rudds reckless, ineffective spending spree; A stimulis bill based on infrastructure and tax cuts. That would create jobs, and take some of the burden off working families. A much smaller deficit too.
symons3569 2 years ago
Being further in debt that we should be. Vote Liberal.
symons3569 2 years ago
@symons3569 liberal party are dogs mate
Ihatedawannabes 1 year ago
RESEARCH THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!
hogsonquads 2 years ago
lets see, kevin been a complete fuck wit in parlament and fucking up just about everything he could legaly do and still get away without pissin dum shits off
frankis94 2 years ago
yea, well look what shit labours turned the country into...
jonny was right, it was shit for our country, we NEED the liberals back....and i was oine of the fools who voted kivin in!
frankis94 2 years ago
good on you for admitting it! but a lot of ppl fell for Kevin's spin and hype. lets hope that enough voters now realize that he is all talk, and what he does do he stuffs up anyway, and the Libs can get back in this year, and stop the skyrocketing debt we will have to repay, and the waste of taxpayers money by this govt.
kevvys1a1woos 1 year ago
@kevvys1a1woos
so its ok for the libs to sit on revenue and refuse to pay a single sent on infrastructure?
if you ran a business- you'd spend money to advance, move forward, upgrade, renew.... the government now is making these upgrades that have been needed for YEARS.
wnxsystem 1 year ago
@frankis94 How could you have been so fucking stupid?
Rotpig 1 year ago
JOHN GONE 07
mutguts 4 years ago
I wouldn't vote for either of the christian fundementalist whack jobs on offer. Australia needs to do something to protect its secularism and democracy.
2LegHumanist 4 years ago
Ideological tripe! where would the justice be for James Hardy's asbestos victims without the unions?? We need to keep checks and balances in the workplace ALWAYS!
brennus78 4 years ago
Yes unions are good for workers, but we don't want them running the country! How many times does it need to be said the that Liberal Party is not anti-union, just anti-union control.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
a ote for howard is a vote for crusty the clown costello waaaaaa loosers
mynewkev07 4 years ago
A vote for Rudd is a vote for the unknown. And the real losers will be Aussie workers. Watch the jobs disappear overnight with the re-introduction of the unfair dismissal laws, and the abolition of IR reforms. No one in small business will be employing if Rudd wins.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
holiday pay goneeeeeeee overtime rates goneeeeeeeee howard goneeeeeeeeeeeeee
mynewkev07 4 years ago
Which unions did Wayne Swan and Craig Emerson work for?
redmonkey808 4 years ago
AWU but neither held a formal position, altho they undoubtedly did work for it in some capacity.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Well of course, Labour stands for workers rights. Howard has screwed the country and says tha economy is great, well what about the citizens of the country? Never been worse off FACT!
PissedBogan 4 years ago 2
you got that one right too howard screwed us all good and said what a good job he was doing but he didnt fool me thats for sure
mynewkev07 4 years ago
Labor would govern according to it's agenda of social change, and would sacrifice jobs to do it.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
kevvys1a1woos, get real, you know that is all crap, just can't think of anything original to say. Trade unions do a good job, collective bargaining is a good thing - it provides workers with eqality of power - work choices creates inequality between worker and management.
ejc49 4 years ago
I know nothing of the sort. Are you suggesting there's no difference between Liberal and Labor ideology? And how do you explain for example union instigated strikes that drive companies to the wall and out of business effectively causing the employees to cut their own throats by losing their jobs?
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
There is a superficial differing in ideology...at least rhetorical ideology
whoever is in power (out of our huge realistic choice of two 8-| ) has access to the same body of public servants who make up the same policies regardless of party
Both parties have sold our public assets - things that had already belonged to the Australian people...what did I get from it??? they sold something I was a part owner in!!!!
agricolae101 4 years ago
work choices puts workers in their place... below the people that employed them... before liberal, before work choices the workers ruled the employers, now the employers rule the workers and thats how it should be
p.s i work for k-mart as a register operator
823265 4 years ago
You are a friggin idiot - with a discerning and incisive mind like that you should have a long and prosperous career as a register operator. JUST a thought mate - WHERE would K Mart be without workers? Who really has the power?? Work choices removes market conditions from the labour market - the libs have freed up every other market in the nation!! something stinks!!
ejc49 4 years ago
Where would KMart be without workers?? where would KMart workers be without KMart! Businesses provide workers with jobs. The jobs would not exist otherwise. Or are you too stupid to understand this simple fact?
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
workchoices exploit workers and you know it i bet your a boss or employer correct?
mynewkev07 4 years ago
@PissedBogan LMAO!!! Pissed Bogan the labor voter!! Well done bogan boy.
GENERALLEEJ 1 year ago
After 11 years of manipulating the Australian people with immoral lies and scare campaigns, nothing the Libs claim anymore seems credible, including all this union nonsense. And before some nutcase Howard supporter jumps up to throw out misleading statistics about the unions, I have only one thing to say: Howard is a compulsive liar (want me to catalogue the lies?), so what makes the supporter of a compulsive liar any more believable?
RasputinEyes 4 years ago
who in the howard team actually did anything?
mynewkev07 4 years ago
clutching at spanners .....Chowsie Wowsie Howie...
keaandperu 4 years ago
Maybe this would have slightly more credit if he could say "secretary". hahaha.
fyrg 4 years ago
Besides our government seems to think we should all be earning Chinese salaries of 2 and 6
Or maybe worse...the big half of the penny
agricolae101 4 years ago
Nice try kevvys1a1woos
Your attempt to create a positive blog for the Liberals
Didn't work though
Read all the negatives
I noticed that you joined 1 month ago.
Just about the time the election was called. Who are you trying to kid?
You are a Liberal Party staffer, not a concerned citizen!
annipetama 4 years ago
Just to set the record straight, no I'm not. I'm just a private citizen and voter! This all started because my comments on Krudds websites and videos weren't being posted, as I say on my page if you bother to read it. I complained on a political ng, and someone suggested I start my own page if I wanted to have a say, so I did!
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
And you're not as clever as you think you are, because if my aim was simply to have a pro-liberal site, i would be deleting anti-liberal comments, just like your hero Krudd deletes anti-Labor ones! Have a nice day.. and I suggest that you leave the detective work to someone else in future.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I am tired of the anti-union adds...very very!!!
My god...Australian life was SO MUCH BETTER when we had more union influence in the 1980's - The liberal party has it all wrong; for the first time in my life...I will vote for Labor
So that life can still have a little of the stuff that makes it worth living!!!
Not that they will be much different
agricolae101 4 years ago
mate, no one is denying that a small amount of union representation is good for australia's wellbeing and the economy, but is this the amount of union representation you want?
tmathe01 4 years ago
At the end of the day I don't really care who wields the influence in this country
Only so long as I can feel safe and secure in my job and afford to put food on the table
and maybe one day...turn that fevered dream of mine into reality and be able to afford a little house
(And yes, I already work full time, as the administrative manager in a research facility at a university - home ownership; STILL a daydream)
agricolae101 4 years ago
you still don't counter the claim that life was better in the 1980's
Today I found myself longing for the good days of Bob Hawke; People with a job like mine could afford a house and a boat and several cars...back in the day!!!
P.S. Fight inflation first...WOW...they've done a great job of that :-D))))))) (refering to both labor and liberals)
agricolae101 4 years ago
mate i was born in 1989, i know very little about the life in 1980's. However, from my studies and personal research, I do know that the Liberal government over the past decade has been exceptional. The economy has grown substantially, our national security has never been better, and the government has funded social services supurbly without affecting our economy.
tmathe01 4 years ago
Sure, the interest rates have risen slightly over the past year especially, but they havent even come close to what they reached under any labor government. Why try and fix something that isn't broken? And i can assure that no society can prosper under that much union representation. They have helped labor buy the election, and will definitely have a negative impact on our county - and buying a house will be made even harder, let me assure you.
tmathe01 4 years ago
you're only a young pup...when you grow up...then you can comment
agricolae101 4 years ago
yeh i know mate, that is what's even sadder.
i know more about our political system than u, and you're probably 20 years older than me.. what a poor, misled life you've lived...
vote liberal
tmathe01 4 years ago
little idiot...you know nothing...or else you wouldn't put any weight on this election
why bother??!??...what a shame we live in a "shamocracy"
agricolae101 4 years ago
"shamocracy"...good one.
(that comment was dripping in sarcasm but i thought i better point it out for you because ur little labor-voting brain probably couldnt have worked that out)
tmathe01 4 years ago
mate, all due respect, u are an idiot- anyone that votes labor under the age of 25 is misled because they havent witnessed the wrath of a previous labor government, but anyone over the age of 25 is an idiot. full stop.
tmathe01 4 years ago
And you haven't witnessed how much better Australian life was before the current liberal regime
at least not being old enough to remember
You are right though...I was an idiot in the last election - I VOTED LIBERAL
agricolae101 4 years ago
'tmathe01' you should take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror...because you're in danger of developing into an ugly human being
Good governance means governing for all...instead we have a government intent on making average citizens work for Chinese sweatshop wages - if you think this is good governmetn...you have a diseased mind
and I pity you
agricolae101 4 years ago
P.S. I am aware of the spelling mistake :-))
agricolae101 4 years ago
fair enough mate... i'm not going to argue any more because my sentiments about the way australia should be governed are never going to change lol. thanks for taking the time to talk to me.
-tmathe01
tmathe01 4 years ago
You're welcome...I just hope you learn to see arguments from both sides; ascertain the weight and then judge --- and then you'll really be clever :-)
and in case you can't tell...there is NO sarcasm in that comment!!!
agricolae101 4 years ago
Tolerant soul aren't we!! Says it all about the standards Howard has engendered in Aussie society.
Shallow ideology based solely on piss poor economic principals - screw the worker and screw the planet. MEN AND WOMEN OF AUSTRALIA HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER OFF - BULLSHIT - get some experience about you BOY - then regurgitate this crap, IF YOU STILL BELIEVE IT!!
ejc49 4 years ago
fuck off mate, the liberal party have addressed every major issue that this world has to offer in a sensible manner, without compromising our economy.
we have the lowest unemployment rate ever, and we have one of the best social and national security policies in the world.
there is a key difference between you and me; i am a realist who has the best interests of everyone at heart, and you are a 'bleeding-heart' idiot who has no what it takes to run a succesful, prosperous country.
tmathe01 4 years ago
Well said, lol! It seems that we need to speak to labor voters in a manner that they can comprehend! Not much has been said in this campaign about national security, but I'm very fearful that if Labor wins it will be severely compromised, and they'll be a real risk of a terrorist attack on Australian soil.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
it helps when you change the definition of "unemployed"
A volunteer working 1 hour in an unpaid capacity is now considered to be 'employed' :-\
laughable...if the liberals want to know where they went wrong...it was simply 'work choices' - worst policy ever!
agricolae101 4 years ago
a lot of 'young pups' will be voting today, in case you haven't noticed.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Lots of young pups sure voted yesterday, and they got it right!!
How is your world today, sky fallen in,unions come by in the night and scare you. Who is really the woos. You can't shaft most of the people most of the time and expect a favour on election day. Beaten in his own electorate - worlds best PM. HA HA Bullshit!!
ejc49 4 years ago
No they got it wrong because they were ignorant. It will take a while for the effects of Labor's rule to kick in- prob not until 2009- since Labor will be riding for a while on the strong economic position and prosperity that Howard created.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Even the libs are sitting down and having a look at where they went wrong - get your head out of your arse, and your text books and have a good hard look!!
Australia is already a better, fairer, prouder place. Long live Rudd, Long may he reign.
The libs will self destruct this week!!
ejc49 4 years ago
Good choice of word there - reign. With his ego he thinks he'll be running the country all by himself. He's yet to learn such is not the case, and he'll be doing the bidding of his union masters, and the powers that be within the ALP. But probably his 'reign' will be short lived. Voters will most likely have seen the true face of Labor come the next election. Have a nice day.. and goodbye!
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Have a nice day and goodbye yourself dick head. The fuckin weazel Howard had more grace than you. Surrounded himself with the likes of you though, that's why he lost his seat - Fuckwits like you make decent people sick. Now You can fuck off.
ejc49 4 years ago
Hey buddy.. i don't owe you any grace or anything else. you've come on my vids hurling insults and abuse and bad language around, and yet expect me to be nice to you?!? well I'm Peter, not St.Peter. goodbye and good riddance. (you're blocked) but thanks for reminding us of the sort of ppl who form Labor's support base.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Well said.
free8orange 3 years ago
its starting. my dad says that it is just how remembers it starting under the last labor government that that ended up with 18% inflation
liber8me 3 years ago
and a lot of young pups saw their job security being flushed away
Bad liberal policy forced people to abandon this party...whose idea was it anyway???
P.S. my bet...Malcolm Turnbull will be the next liberal leader (it wouldn't surprise me if the entire idiocy of work choices was the idea of his personal supporters; who realised that through this chain of events he could seize power)
agricolae101 4 years ago
"a lot of young pups saw their job security being flushed away". Absolutely. Altho it will take a while for them to realize it. Yes, Turnbull will lead the party now, and take the fight to Labor. But I suggest that your remark that he orchestrated Howard's downfall is rather fanciful.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I think it likely has a hint of truth :-)
look at how he orchestrated himself into the seat of Wentworth...there was a reason why the Labor party rejected him (when he tried to join there first) Or John Howard's shifting electoratal boundaries :-)
How else can you explain the lunacy of work choices...it wasn't for the 'Aussie Battler' whom Howard relied upon; in any case...it makes an interesting story in this over active imagination I have ;-)
agricolae101 4 years ago
the interesting thing is that the polls showed that wen pp were asked if they would vote liberal in preference to labor if howard stayed on pp said yes. i honestly think that costello undermining howard was the only reason the liberals lost the election
liber8me 3 years ago
With respect.. why is it still a dream? With a job like that you should have a good income. and in outer suburban areas 3 bdrm modern brick veneer homes on good sized blocks can be had for less than $200,000.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
a block of land...and then what do you put on it...a tent ;-/
agricolae101 4 years ago
One topic that isn't receiving much attention in the current debate is national security. Howard has keep Australia terrorism-free, and I suggest that that's a reason people don't think so much about it. But could we really trust Labor to be so vigilant and diligent? I say certainly not!
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Where have you been since 1999???? Even a small block of land without a house is almost $300,000
I cannot even afford a home at Maitland; let alone a fibro shack 8-| :'(
That's just the point...I don't get a good income...because I get screwed over by my boss'; who enters into pay negotiations with a team of negotiators...without the aide of collective representation; I am on - sadly, very little
I work over 16 hours a day to do my job (getting paid the full time hours of 7)
agricolae101 4 years ago
Sydney's dearer than Melb for sure, but still plenty of housing here in the $150k - $250k price bracket. And in rural Australia of course, you can buy houses for $10k - $20k, or even just a few thousand dollars in some places. (not suggesting that you would want to live in a rural area tho of course)
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I have posted a slightly different version as a response for all those who hate this ad. Enjoy.
gallusgallusminimus 4 years ago
LOL ah these straw men scare tactics make me laugh. My old mans a member of the teachers federation. He also votes Liberal. So is he anti-business just because he's part of a union?? I respect the vote of every person, but "kevvys1a1woos", if you actually believe these Liberal commercials, than your stupider than the average 60 year old die hard conservative, and that's saying a lot.
kmank2 4 years ago
What would be really stupid is a bunch of Union hacks trying to run a trillion dollar economy. Better brush up your résumé, and see if you can refinance your mortgage if Labor gets in- if you can understand what I'm saying.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
at the moment we have a bunch of liberal hacks
you've got hacks...they've got hacks - does it really matter in the end which hacks we have??!!??
agricolae101 4 years ago
Yes it does matter, since it's a matter of ability and competence.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I don't think the liberals can really lay claim to that
John Howard was one of the worst treasuers we had...Malcolm Fraser was terrified of being usurped- as he had gotten his top job the same way...so he surrounded himself with the most incompetant people his party had to offer. John Howard included
Now, John Howard also surrounds himself with lacklustre idiots
agricolae101 4 years ago
Well we could argue all day, but I'm firmly of the view that if Rudd is elected to power, we will live to regret it. And as an aside.. Did you catch his policy speech? "I will do this, i will do that.." Unlike Howard no mention or acknowledgement of his team. No deference to Gillard- the 2nd most powerful person in the Labor camp. The guys on a ego trip.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I think Greg Combet will make a fantastic PM one day. Maybe he'll take over from Rudd in 2014--if we are lucky. Guess we should just crush those lowlife Libs first.
CirrusCopernicus 4 years ago
Maybe the Easter Bunny would. yathink?
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I'd happily vote for the Easter Bunny before any one of those Liberal front benchers. I think santa would make a better candidate though.
CirrusCopernicus 4 years ago
So, essentially what they are saying here is that these people all have leadership experience in democratic organisations, representing hard working people in their plight for a fair go. Is that what they are saying? Sounds like damn good experience to me--I guess I'll vote Labor then.
Really, what a stupid scare campaign this is.
CirrusCopernicus 4 years ago
No, not really. Yes they are saying they are experienced union officials, but also that that is not sufficient or suitable experience or qualification for a ministerial appointment. No doubt most sensible thinking voters would agree. And the other consideration is whether ministers with such vested interest would govern in the best interests of ALL Australians.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
What exactly do you think is "sufficient or suitable experience or qualification for a ministerial appointment?" Do you believe that people who have been involved with unions should be precluded? Do you believe unionist are bad or evil?
And now you speak for most sensible thinking voters, do you? Do you really believe that the Howard Govt. would/does govern in the best interests of ALL Australians and without vested interests, do you? You're one indoctrinated puppy.
CirrusCopernicus 4 years ago
At least we know that many of the ALP people have experience standing-up to greedy big corporate business--you know, the ones who are constantly creating new markets for consumables which we don't want or need. The ones killing our planet and the future of all known living things.
CirrusCopernicus 4 years ago
If you really give a crap about your grandkids then DONT VOTE LIBERAL--cause that ultra-conservative mindset really will be the death of us all [via climate change and/or war]. These people think they're right about everything. They never compromise, discuss or concede. It's just not in their nature. Just look at Iraq! "You're either with us or against us," says the neo-con grand master George W, or is Cheney the grand master? I dunno.
CirrusCopernicus 4 years ago
Look at Cheney's voting record on wikipedia and tell me he's not pure evil. These are people whom John Howard strongly identifies with. It really is all about the ruling class/corporate elites.
CirrusCopernicus 4 years ago
Speaking of indoctrination.. seems you've been indoctrinated by our leftist education system- taught to hate America, Howard, Conservatives, etc.,
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I'm conservative too...and I hate our inadequate 1960's diseased education system...BUT I'm still going to vote for labor over the coalition
The coalition has gone too far with workchoices
agricolae101 4 years ago
Everyone always has vested interests
How do you get the right experience if you've never had the job...John Howard had no experience as a Prime Minsiter before he was elected :-/
by that logic of experience we should all still be voting for Edmund Barton's decendants...after all, they are the ones imbued with the experience...everyone else elected after was without as much
agricolae101 4 years ago
He had plenty of experience- as a career politician and leader of the liberal party. And of course everyone has vested interests, but we need to look at what those interests are, and the ramifications of that.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
go for growth?
at a time of high inflation this equals interest rate hikes, the RBA thinks this will spike at 7.25% next year.
the wheels are coming off this campaign in spectacular fashion. Howard must drop his campaign slogan as economic conservatism is not going for growth at this point.
fantasticini 4 years ago
What high inflation? see the treasurers speech i've just posted.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
haven't you been to the supermarket lately????
inflation figures are inaccurate...it's why politician salaries are not linked to the inflationary index
agricolae101 4 years ago
i heard costello went to da kmart store tofind a good backbone they on special
mynewkev07 4 years ago
You heard wrong. That was Kevin Rudd. He hasn't found one yet tho.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
The bloke at the end was asked "what does Costello's smirk look like"?
shwell 4 years ago
haha, very funny. But why won't Labor voters face the fact that they'll be voting for a bunch of ex-union bosses with no real experience or qualifications, and therefore no ability, to manage our economy and the nations affairs? -just as the ads say. Oh, I guess it's because they have no answer. Vote Labor and watch Australia go down the drain folks! Maybe Peter Garrett can entertain us with some of his err.. music. You know, somewhat akin to Nero fiddling while Rome burned.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
If you actually believe your own dribble I feel really sorry for you. You can look forward to better mental health services under a Labor government though.
shwell 4 years ago
Well we'll see where we are three years from now if Labor is elected won't we. If history is anything to go by, it'll be just a matter of time before the electorate has to vote the Libs in again to clean up Labor's mess. And I see you can't answer the question about Labor's lack of talent either. nuff said!
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Government departments run the country, the ministers are strategic guidance. I suppose those talentless Labor pollies must be a bit better than you, why aren't you there?
shwell 4 years ago
Why aren't you? :) You can't dodge the fact that the ministers make the decisions.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Why aren't I what? Ministers make decisions based on advice from the department. Some like Kev Andrews will make it up on the fly and throw doctors out of the country for no reason.
shwell 4 years ago
For all we know that guy at the end was probably asked 'what did you think of the latest SAW movie?'
victor1982 4 years ago
Kevin's PR team has been doing a great job. A man with no substance has been portrayed as a fresh man for our country's future!!! But, I haven't seen the Liberal PR team has such great achievement. I've just watched a similar anti-union TV ad and it ended with the words "Australians, you'll pay for it". The ad is simply ineffective!!! I guess it may even back-fire!!! If the words had been changed to "Do Australians want such a future?" the message can really be heard then.
fionak2007 4 years ago
Yes I want a future, that's why I'm NOT voting Liberal
deadlyyams 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
i wonder if all the apologies yesterday by tony abbott will lead to sorry from mr howard?
fantasticini 4 years ago
BULLSHIT!
As spoken by Tony Abbott of the Liberal Party
baconboy666 4 years ago
it looks like the libs have come up with a new scare campaign. under menzies it was all labor candidates are communists now there all trade unionists
AUSTALY 4 years ago
Does protecting workers from exploitation = anti business? WTF? Workers are the business.
ccybt 4 years ago
No, the workers are the workers of the business. They need to have the business prosper in order to keep their jobs.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I'm in a union, what is wrong with that. I cannnot see anything wrong with being a trade unionist, I expect that most of the country is or was. Not everyone is in business Mr Howard! Some of us work for wages and like to think that we're protected. Stop the scare tactics, they're not working.
Beema41 4 years ago
No ones saying that there's anything wrong with being a member of a Union, and certainly not the PM. This is not about Union membership, but Union control of the government, and therefore control of our nations future and the lives of all Australians.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Howard says 70% of the labor party are unionists, thus unionists will run the government, what is wrong with people who are affiliated with workers supporting their constituants? The government campaign is designed to paint a picture of mistrust in unionists. As a unionist, I take offence!
Beema41 4 years ago
Most of Labors team are not just unionists, but Union officials or ex-union officials or bosses. Firstly we need to ask if such persons posses the necessary skills to adequately perform as government ministers, let alone admirably perform, and secondly whether they would govern in the best interests of ALL Australians.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
And who are you to make that judgment that unionists do not know how to perform as ministers and effectively run a country Kevvys1a1woos?
Bob Hawke and Paul Keating were large Union contributors, and I believe their record of puling this nation out of recession stands for itself.
Stale economic policy is killing this country and the Liberals seem to not care at all. Maybe its time to so called "Unionists" have a go.
stidball82 4 years ago
Everyone has an opinion and a right to express it- just as you've done.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
If its an opinion make sure you make it known to those around you, some may take it as fact.
I didn't express an opinion, the track records are a solid fact of the fantastic economic policies that unionists put together.
The 'fact' raised in the commercial that unionists can't run a country is not a fact, its nothing but a scare campaign, preying on those who do not understand.
stidball82 4 years ago
You are expressing an opinion, whether you admit it or not- the opinion that it's irrelevant that the majority of Labor's team are union or ex-union officials, or even that it could be a good thing, and that the performance of two past Labor unionists is indicative of the ability of unionists presently in the Labor team.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
70% trade unionists? What about almost all of the liberal govt.being lawyers or bankers with a huge affiliation with business.Not to mention JH predecessor Mr Costello who is the co-founder of the HR Nicholls Society,which as a group was designed to destroy the unions and the pay,conditions and basic democratic rights of every working Australian.The funny thing is the govt.thinks we should be scared of unions when their agenda will be so much more devastating towards Aust. and its people.
scottydav72 4 years ago
Ahem....
Are you really this dumb or are you just pretending?
Hawke and Keating put us INTO the recession.
The only reason Labor governments are voted in after Liberal governments is because the economy has been restored and they think "Oh well let's throw all the money away!"
downtowntaylorslakes 4 years ago 3
Did you know when we had that recession all those yrs ago it was a world wide recession?It was key policies from Keating and a resourses boom that has seen our economy grow.
scottydav72 4 years ago
And sooner or later Liberal govts are always voted back in again to clean up Labor's mess. The only time Australia ever lost it's AAA credit rating was under a Labor govt. And the only govt in Australia's history so incompetent and corrupt that it had to be dismissed by the Governor General was of course the Whitlam Labor govt.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
I think you need to brush up on your history and stop living in the past. Howard has had long enough to do what he is now promising so maybe it's time we put Labor in so they can actually make some changes that people will see. For 75% of my life, pretty much all of my life that I can remember, I haven't seen many practical changes to our society.
ccybt 4 years ago
(For 75 percent of my life Howard has been PM)
ccybt 4 years ago
Many of those years however were spent cleaning up Labor's mess!- eliminating the $96 billion debt and it's $6 billion pa interest bill, restoring Australia's AAA credit rating, eliminating union control of the labor force and creating new jobs and lowering unemployment, interest rates, and inflation, and more.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
But now that a stable and sound economic position and environment has been established, and the govt is able to give back to the community, the electorate seems ready to vote Labor back in and screw it all up again! Could we any more ungrateful and unkind?
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
5 major economic reforms brought to you by ALP and the Unions 1.floating the dollar 2.deregulating the banks 3.enterprise bargaining 4.superannuation 5.eliminating tarrifs. Howard and Costello's contribution? A GST. No Workchoices is not a reform - its a retrograde step to the Master and Servants Act. The real cost of a mortgages and owning a home is 2x now under JWH than it ever was under Hawke/Keating.
fantasticini 4 years ago
I've just seen interest rates go up, my parents suffer because of that, I've seen the GST come into practice, I've seen private schools receive more funding and a new performing arts centre whilst my school gets another portable.
In regards to the history part, Kerr was a dishonest bastard. He was just afraid of Whitlam making him lose his job. Such an Un-Australian thing to do by backstabbing Whitlam. Scab.
ccybt 4 years ago
Interest rates have always been lower on average under the Liberals than under Labor. Do you think that if Rudd is elected, suddenly interest rates will go down? they won't, and it's pounds to peanuts that they'll go up!
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Anyone could be better than Costello - especially Wayne Swan!
thruglow 4 years ago
Who the hell has been *managing* our 1.1 trillion-gazillion-billion dollar (move over Dr Evil) economy for the last 11 years??! Costello has been sitting in a hammock (gotta love Keating!) for the last 11 years!!!
thruglow 4 years ago
Lol! Why don't you tell us about those L.A.W tax cuts, the 'banana republic', or Standard and Poors ratings downgrades during the reign of the 'world's greatest treasurer' ?
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
It has been a long road back, and it has taken a lot of work. But Standard and Poor's has now recognised that Australia's financial position is strong again and we are AAA. (from the website of the Treasurer. YT won't let us put links here)
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Today (17th. Feb 2003) the international rating agency Standard and Poor's upgraded Australia's foreign currency credit rating to AAA. It is a rating which Australia lost during the Labor period, the `Banana Republic' period of 1986, when Australia had its first downgrade and its second in 1989.
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
C'mon, be honest how. Do you really believe that Wayne Swan would be a better treasurer than Peter Costello? or that Union controlled Labor will do a better job of running the country?
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Oh and we should listen to the lying Liberals should we?, at least Labor never claimed to control interest rates as Howard and Costello had claimed to do.
stidball82 4 years ago
Maybe your idea of good way to run the economy is to 'double' tax the hard working Australian public and drive the gap between the rich and the poor to the extreme, which mind you according to a AC Nielsen report the gap is at its largest in Australian history.
stidball82 4 years ago
Previous "UNION" Labor governments such as the Hawke and Keating governments pulled this country out of one of the worst 'global' recessions of all time. Even after the failure of Treasurer John Howard not bale to keep the Australian Economy afloat, surging our interest rates to 22% (90 Day Bank Bill - April 1982) and then capping the Reserve Bank from pushing it higher.
stidball82 4 years ago
With problems in the US, with a recession of the horizon there, things could get messy. Who do you want in charge, a Liberal Government that has a record of paving the way to recessions, and preventing regulatory bodies rectifying the problem with rate caps. or a "UNION" Labor Government that rolls up their sleeves and does what "has to be done" to see this nation through the times "GOOD" and "BAD".
stidball82 4 years ago
I will be happy to rid this country of the Liberal Government, and get some fresh ideas into 'really' making this economy strong. (not just because of resource booms.)
stidball82 4 years ago
When you see the Liberals bashing unions you know they've given up on the election. One has to question their intelligence for the fact that they're even bothering to run this line, because it's sure as hell not making any dint in the opinion polls. But then, the electoral smarts of the Liberal Party are already pretty questionable given they can't seem to win an election anywhere in the country.
AngoraFish 4 years ago
When you see Labor voters ignoring the warnings of these messages, you know they've given up on rational thought. One has to question their intelligence, period!
kevvys1a1woos 4 years ago
Julia Gillard was a member of a dangerous far-left radical communist leaning organisation called the Socialist Forum as recent as 2002. If a Rudd Labor government is elected, Australians will have a dangerous government. Don't risk Australia's trillion dollar economy on unionists and a former communist .
FairDinkumPride 4 years ago