No ISI AND CIA Created Taliban To counter The Russians Invading Afghanistan not to counter USA And India but now they got out of hand and get money from foreign nations You Stupid Fuck.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FUCKING EVIDENCE AGAINST INDIA,ISRAEL,USA
Here is the Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari revealing that the Taliban was created by both America AND Pakistan.
"I think it is a part of your past and our past, and the ISI and the CIA created it together," Zardari told the American news channel NBC on May 7, 2009 in an interview.
Never trust a "Pakistani President". And dont ever think that "you" are playing "them". Its the other way around. "They" are playing "you" (e.g. over and over again attempting to sell a bridge to nowhere).
I trust a Pakistani President and his comments on history a lot more than some uneducated twat like yourself on YouTube who is desperate to deny any reality that may make his CNN/Fox News worldview untenable.
Please remember to take your medication in the future. It's in everyone's best interests. If you continue to insist writing rubbish on YouTube whilst in a psychosis then I will have to call your mum and get her to up the dosage.
Btw, just yesterday the governor of Punjab was assassinated by his own personal bodyguard. Guess what; that bodyguard wasnt a Mossad, CIA, Raw or Blackwater agent at all. He was a Muslim with allegedly (at least according to news) radical conviction.
In a sense I sympathize with your proposal, yet obviously in a globally intertwined world its almost impossible to implement such measures.
Where I disagree with you, thats your claim that there is "wisdom which works for some" (and perhaps not for others). You know, you cant defy gravity... ;-)
@julianraw Yea... We can see "pretty well" how they take care of themselves: hdr.undp(.)org/en/statistics scimagojr(.)com/countryrank(.)php arwu(.)org/ARWU2009_2(.)jsp consang(.)net/index(.)php/Global_prevalence en.rsf(.)org/press-freedom-index-2009,1001(.)html transparency(.)org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2009/cpi_2009_table ww w1(.)internationalliving(.)com/qofl2010 tinyurl(.)com/32ekgt8 tinyurl(.)com/3ygj2pq watch?v=3Pk2-vr4sSw watch?v=QwlW9Qq_zEc
WHo is in charge? Talibans? hahaha. Farmers? lol..I let you guess...NATO kills civilians everyday.It makes people trust more talibans.They control the SOuth of Afgh.They are mixed in the population so, everytime something suspect moves, NATO shoots and kills also civilians.AFgh. people are in the middle of : - war lords who make money on drug and pillage and - imperialist who bomb everything...That's why people support talibans.Not cause they are progressists, they just want peace like in 1992.
@Wrath0fKhan That's all you have to answer idiot ? LOL Weaaaaak, supa weak. Shame on you for such a lack of knowledge on the situation.You don't honor the zionist intellengencia u think u belong to dude :P
NATO bombing farms, mosques, mariage celebrations, funerals celebrations...didnt help either the afgh. people to trust the "freedom regim"...It reinforces on the contrary the support of talibans.Consequences of this war : a raise of +3000% in the production of opium since the end of the taliban regim.To produce opium, believe me, u need more than a poor afghan farm What, every farmer in Afgh, is a chemist now? Lol No.For that, u need laboratories and a logistic to get in in Europe.
Despite all the bombing provided for by the NATO, the statistics speak for themselves. Vast majority of the people murdered in this war were murdered by the Taliban (whether Afghan or Pakistani) and or Afghan warlords.
Again, you say "A", yet you dont say "B". Opium production flourishes in the regions controlled by the Taliban. You can download a map from the UN servers (serving as evidence).
What kind of labs and logistics did they have in ancient times?
"Despite all the bombing provided for by the NATO, the statistics speak for themselves."
Bullshits. How can you just accuse taliban of this whole mess without judging all the events since the 19 th century which lead to this situation, you idiot.
@Wrath0fKhan I write it again cause you censored it.
You write "What kind of labs and logistics did they have in ancient times? " about the opium (--> heroin) business in AFgh.
I answered you : "Diacetylmorphine was first synthesized in 1874 by C. R. Alder Wright," So don't talk about ancient times...
Everybody knows that u need laboratories and then logistic to make heroin and then tranport it to Europe...YOu really don't know what u talk about and that's why u censor me.
Tired, the AFgh. people wanted peace, so, talibans were welcomed. But hey, for the foreigners, it didnt work so well after all. They forgot one detail. Afgh. is made of different ethnic groups. Talibans are pachtun. This ethny is almost 50% of the population.USA and Pakistan wanted to use them as mercenaries. But pachtouns are very independant and dont recognize the frontier between Pakistan and Afghanistan ( 19th century problem).They dont even recognize Pakistan.
Yea... Peace by piece, so to say! Indeed! Chopping of heads hands and feet. No music allowed. Women beaten in the streets. No schools for female children. A soaring population growth rate (at 3.85%). Training camps for international terrorist organizations. What a heavenly blessing!
Brzezinski, president Carter counsellor, wanted to turn Afgh into the soviets's Vietnam to annihilate the influence of socialism in the region.To fight the Soviet Union and the revolutionnary governement of Afgh,USA and Saudi Arabia supported every mudjahidin through Pakistan.When Red army left Afgh. in 1989, USA knew that soviets were going through a serious crisis.They had reached their goal. SO they left the region which was in total chaos.WHo suffered from that?Afghans and pakistanees.
From "Mujahideen" to Taliban is quite a jump, aint it? Afghan people should be proud of themselves. They played a pivotal role in neutralizing the Soviet empire. Instead theyve chosen to walk a vacuous path. What a pity...
@Wrath0fKhan "Afghan people should be proud of themselves. They played a pivotal role in neutralizing the Soviet empire. " Man, u didn't understand at all what happened in this region. Just shut up if it's for bringing such irrelevant rhetoric. Read what i wrote, learn.
In 2001, for Bush and its administration, the economic situation for the US was disastrous.The way to regain strenght and power was to control as many ressources as possible. Especially gaz and oil.Under the influence of Brzezinski, Clinton wanted first to dominate Europe by extending NATO and then reach central asia. The conservatists didn't choose this solution, it would have taken too much time.
So, why this war in Afghanistan, you ask? To free the poor afghans from the taliban regim? I answer : so why the US don't go in Saudi Arabia to free the poor people from one of the hardes islamicregim on earth??? The ethic reason for this war doesnt stand the comparison one second. SO WHY? Let me recall an event that everybody has forgotten. In 1997,there has been a serious economic crisis with the burst of the asia finances bubble.the NASDAQ just collapsed.
WHat is the reaction of Talibans when Washington claims Ben Laden ?: « If u want Ben Laden to be judged, give us proofs and let him be judged by an islamic court in any muslim country you like".
Talibans, in the first place, had NOTHING TO DO with Ben Laden.In 1996, Ben Laden, is expelled from Saudi Arabia and goes to Sudan. Saudi Arabia put pressure on Sudan so that they expell from their country Ben Laden. It is only at this moment that Ben Laden goes to Afghanistan. The 9/11 attack has nothing to do with Afghanistan!!! However, THIS is the REASON invoked by USA to invade Afghanistan..
"The US didnt impose their ideology on the Afghan people. On the contrary, they gave them freedoms" The bullshits you can read sometimes on Youtube...Let me recall some facts. 1)In 2001, the US start the operation called « Enduring Freedom », because, according to them, the talibans refuse to let go Ben Laden.9 years later, nobody talks about the public ennemy number 1. Why the f..k the US are still in Afghanistan?
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i blame Musharaff the son of btich , who let the CIA agents carry out suspicious activities, during his time in Power, Now Pakistan is paying it price, American secret war in Pakistan.
the idiot on 1:55, is another example of hypocrite who spread lies, misinformation , their only goal is to protect USA interest.
May Allah Punish the enemies of Islam & Pakistan, Inshallah
I "blame" the deluded Muslims and or Pakistanis. Its your home, its your people and you are unable to "get it under control". That is - creating a prosperous, modern, civil society.
We already know who is being "punished". Those who are suffering from social, economic and scientific inferiority (doesnt apply to hunter gatherer societies), because they refuse to embrace a superior social concept. Indeed, this is measurable...
yes, We dont need western style democracy in our country, if we are Muslim state, then Sharia law should be imposed.
Yes, we are getting punished for not following Islam , Allah chooses your enemy to punish you, Nation goes through turmoil, learn quick how to establish a state, in according to Islam.
every Pakistanis know Terrorism is coming from across the Afghanistan border, we have Black-water presence in our cities, carry out suspicious activities, still our politicians?
On the contrary, you are getting punished for embracing "Muhammadan revivalism". Not only is there a very strong correlation, there is plenty of evidence and observable explanatory mechanisms.
"Allah chooses"
Self-imposed. All you need to do is abandon Allah and the spook is gone!
Did you know that "those across the border" are saying that terror is coming from accoross the border? Fascinating, aint it?
"Xe"? They are hedonists, they dont blow themselves up.
You idiot Pakistan is made for Islam , it unfinished revolution, Pakistan prevails,
Every citizen of Pakistan is soldier of Prophet Mohammad ,we will fight for Islam & Pakistan.
Everyone know America is loosing the war in Afghanistan, spreading terrorism through Pakistan by creating TTP, making difference between groups. THEIR NO SURRENDER
You lying piece of islamofascist terrorist scum! Everyone knows that your deluded cronies are desperate and on the run! The drones are hitting them hard. On the contrary, your pseudo drones are being put into prisons over here. You even cant assess reality, thats how pathtetic you are. A bunch of loosers!
Go and 4uck yourself, if it was not for our traitor leaders who are on the payroll of CIA, these drone attacks could have not been carried out, which are killing many inncoent people.
USA are the real terrorist, who sponsor state terrorism , and yes dickface, We dont run, we will fight. unfortunate USA cowards dont declare war, instead play with dirty diplomacy games.
We all know what their purpose in Afghanistan, destabilising it neighbors,
There are no innocent people in the Islamofascist areas. They are all legit targets. Their wives (breading ovens), their kids (future fighters, suicidals), their logistic supporters, etc. Supporting terror against terror is one of the working options and theres absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Its been people like you, whove been destabilizing the world in the last couple of decades.
There is no room for such structures to keep existing in the world that is coming...
your statement just have approved who the real terrorist are, You war is with islam, theiris no doubt about,
We all know America is controlled by fascist organisation, NWO & Jewish lobbies , who are spilling many innocent American blood in wars, just to protect Jewish ideology
Their do control the Muslim world too, Al-qaida as it tool.
These present wars are declared because of future prophecies , for Greater Israel design.
We are not stupid ,neither we live in fool paradise.
Followers of "Muhammadan revivalism". Those are the real terrorists.
NWO is cool. NWO will destroy all the decrepit and useless OWOs (old world orders).
Suffering from social, economic and scientific inferiority and making bold calls - what a tool of stupidity you are...
Just look at Israel and the Jews! They have defeated your armies repeatedly. They have produced more useful knowledge than the whole Ummah in the last 100 years!
it was predicted that Jews will come back to the holy land,it was also predicted Pakistan would be created , their will be conquest of india too, it prophecy.
the last hour will not come until Israel is removed the illegitimate zionist state, We are all waiting for the messiah return, Jesus will come back and kill the anti-Christ false messiah of the Jews, so you can build your Solomon temple, the victory is with the Muslims.
Most of the Muslims are pulling the short one. Most of the Muslims are loosers. So are you. All you terrorists will be finnished sooner or later. You have no idea what is "cooking". No wonder, you are a deluded "Muhammadan revivalist" yourself...
Allah is the protector of the Muslims, we have firm believe in him, Islam is the last revelation, you cannot defeat Allah chosen people with false allegation, tagging the innocent people as Terrorist, we all know who the real terrorist are, Your so-called 9/11 , to change the world with policies, favoring Jewish ideology.
anway, Islam is growing fast in your own backyard. carry on with your fake propaganda
GreaterFool, I dont care whether you have belief or not. I care about the "results". And those are shattering! You and your cronies were exposed. Social, economic, scientific inferiority is measured whereve your so called perfect system strikes.
As far as I know, "Jewish ideology" is far superior to yours. Results are measurable.
Islam is growing because your womens role is the one of a "breeding oven". Yet I dont have to worry. Already know parts of the Ummah are suffering famine.
You illegitimate son of whore, born in the west, Dont push it here dick-face, before i bash your head, in reality you will be on the floor, Jewish nazis scums.
Coming here spreading lies, you are complete idiot.
Listen Jew boy, i'm Pakistani, not Iraqi, Lebanese or German, Ask for it you will get hard.
@GreaterPakistan Your magazine is empty, you piece of a shyster. You and all your incestoid "cronies in Islam" suffering from social, economic and scientific inferiority were exposed. Certified. consang(.)net/index(.)php/Global_prevalence hdr(.)undp(.)org/en/statistics scimagojr(.)com/countrysearch(.)php?w=world rsf(.)org/en-classement794-2008(.)html w w w1.internationalliving(.)com/qofl2010 watch?v=3Pk2-vr4sSw watch?v=QwlW9Qq_zEc etc... Game over! LOL
Your words speak for your character and thinking. Whatever your beloved TV personalities say......question it and do research before accepting them as facts.
brother..stop wasting your time on this porki "Greater porkistan"..i had fucked him on several occassions but like other porkis he is shameless scum and a dirty Pisslamic follower....they soon gonna be fucked by the entire world n they realy dont know wats cookin....porkistan will disintegrate or will be wipeed off the face of this planet...they are born slaves and meant to be slaves( Pisslam's beggining shows that the were slaves)
First of all you might be thinking that I am the supporter of the Taliban which is not correct. But equal evil are those who call themselves to be civilized. More peoples are brutally killed by the operations in Iraq, Palestine and Afghnistan.They American butchered 150 people along in one wedding cermoney in Afghanistan,more than 500 prisoners killed by B55 in Qilla Jangi, thousand are killed in Iraq where there is no proof of WMD, what happening in Guatanamo bay, 700 innocent civilain and only
We (the "West) have no killing commandos in Iraq. Sure there were some fools and misguided ones shooting around and unfortunatelly killing some people, yet the vast majority was obiously killed by the "insurgents". The "West" cant do much there. The more you shoot, the more you kill. Same applies to Afghanistan. Sure, the wedding was a big tragedy, but what do you want to do? Do their relatives therefore have to start blowing up schoolgirls? No.
After 9/11 Al-Qaeda was held respobsible & Afghnistan wer attacked supported by almost all the world.Iraq was charged wid allegation of WMD while Israel have(No other allegation)which was not there.Iraq was comparatively peaceful before US invasion.Then thousands killed(am sure will be no insurgency if no invasion) without the consent of the UN.Anyone call the US & its allies barbarian?Who wil held them accountable?And da most important who is going to define terrorism?
Yet what do "you" want to do now, khalidgeologist? Continue the insurgency? What sense does it make? According to latest informations we have, Saddam was drying up all the marshes in the south. Some locals even claim that this project of his what the ultimate WMD he had. Now there is some revitalization going on. Look up the report on CBS. This would as well challenge your "no insurgency" claim. Some claim its difficult to define terrorism, yet if someone blows a mosque full of worshippers...
The inforamtion must be from the same agency who informed that Saddam has WMD? Its again mere a speculation.The Iraqis are yet to built the Atomic bomb while the American use it on the innocent peoples of Japan.
Well, if he has then what about the countries who are declared nuclear weapon including my country Pakistan. When America has its own interest during the Afghan war give Pakistan certificate of country who not possess nuclear weapon, falsely.
Its not a speculation. Its seems like a fact (provided the report is true). Find and watch that report. It even seems you didnt understand well, what I was talking about (or I didnt express myself well, or both).
Innocent or not, paradoxically more Japanese people were saved by those two atomic bombs when compared to the score that would have died in a full scale attack. The Militaristic elite considred to declare a fight to the death.
I dont know what "certificate" you are talking about.
So you recommend that in order to aviod full scale war one should used Nuclear weapon. Its only a hope that lot of people are saved by using nuclear weapon.
I as muslim and a Pakistani are open to criticism and we have own shortcomings. I often says in Public who blame India, Israel and America in the recent spate of violance (And when I writing these words there are more blasts in Pakistan) that its our own short comings that encourage to others to use our own soil.
There already was a full scale war. Raging for several years. Millions of people were already dead. And even more would have died. It was a war stopper. Even more, it saved the Japanese from a possible Soviet occupation. We know how other occupied countries ended up. Im not talking about hope, im talking about comparable campaigns, which evidently cost many more lives. Nowadays any nuclear attack on a "nuclear nation" would yield mutual destruction or many more casualties...
Why blaming "others"? Look into those who financially support Taliban and Qeada. Look at those "Salafis" who are spreading radicalization and even hatred against anything "foreign" and "impure" and who practically help to create and sustain this atmosphere of hatred. Look at "your" own mistakes.
Pakistan is really not doing well:
hdr.undp(.)org/en/statistics
Believe it or not, but through invoking the "Rashidun" nothing is gonna change for the better.
30 terrorist r kiled by drone attacks n Paki acording 2 US own estimates,more than 1500 kiled n Gujrat violance n India,thousand kiled n Gaza by Israel,more than 40000 kashmiris killed n last 20 years & list goes on.If u agree or not some of the so called wel civilized r as evil or even more than Taliban,their brutalities quite new while these countries kiled millions of innocent lives in World wars for thier vested interest for the last so many centuries.
Indeed, in all those incidents you are mentioning here, khalid, the Muslims are always involved as a party to the dispute. Why is that so?
Because the "West" made some heavy mistakes in the past, therefore you must point at those? In this case that sounds like a distraction. Perhaps its better to learn from those mistakes...
Obviously, Taliban, Qaeda, their associates and backers are one of the key challenges of the first half of the 21th century.
So if you refering to the past mistake made by WEST then you are acknowleging the fact that this is the root cause which sow seed of hatred and if this policies continued then its only a wish to remain in peace in this world.
The root cause, which through diverse processes results into hatred, is ignorance. It was ignorance of the "West" not to recognize the complexities of the broader "Middle East". It was ignorance of the broader "Middle East" not to recognize the need to update and reform itself.
Yet im "reminding" you again. The past is the past. There is no need to blow people up. Especially not if they are "your" neigbours. No matter how much "shaytan" (used as a metaphor here) is tempting...
Yes the past is past, but the lingering issue of the Palestinians z still there & da American r again & again supporting the Israel having nuclear weapon provided by USA. Just bring the statistics & candidly think who blowing more.
It is not past, it is the present when the President of America declare it as clash of civilization & used word crusade.If v accept that 9/11 was not an inside job, then agains this was the policy of the USA that triggered such kind of catastrophe
I have no clue why you keep mentioning Israel, khalid. Pakistan has its own nukes too. Rather watch them closely or something terrible might happen.
The "clash" was declared by some self-proclaimed "True Muslims" a few decades ago.
Crusade is a word commonly used in the "West" just as Jihad is used in the "Middle East". Crusade became to mean something like "bearing Christs cross". Jihad means struggle in the name of Allah/God. You see crusade as something bad, we see jihad that way.
I m not the only 1 that mentining Israel but whole has termed it as problem whch created hatred among us.Regarding Pakistani nukes,I mentioned it before that American congress issued certificate of countries who not posses or try to have nuclear weapon in the ninties whch includes Pak.Because at that Pak was n front line to wage war against the Russians & whn war finished multiple restrictions was imposed.Thats concern area that where there is interest then they support even the nuclear weapons
The growing popularity of a fellow like Zaid Hamid in Pakistan is indicative of the delusions that has infected the thinking of young Pakistanis not to mention the affluent older folks who are all educated.
Yeah... The policy of the USA. Thats what you claim, kahlid. I cant agree there. I see that as the policy of the Ummah. Something we dont understand well at all.
Even if the Ummah isnt united, just as the West isnt either, there are certain subgroups and certain general tendencies that play a critical role in this show down.
I can tell you what the inside job is. Its the billions of Dollars that have flown into Arab/Muslim hands and those now keep financing "Jihad"...
Oh, the Palestinians... The Palestinians are just used as means. The Palestinian elites have misused the locals and so did other Arab nations misuse the Palestinian elites. After losing several wars one is not in a position to make demands. Do you think we dont know about the Nazis that were hiding in Egypt and Syria and that were continuing their nazi, now even islamo-nazi, crusade-jihad against the Jews? Its much more complicate than you might think...
Get this delusion out of your head. Pakistan is not Palestine and vice versa. Speaking about Palestine as if it is some kind of core issue for Pakistan is ridiculous and retarded to put it mildly.
Even if the US acted as the most beneficent superpower in the history of mankind, Pakistan would still be going through all these troubles until there is a change in mindset. And an embrace of reality. Not the peddling of fantasies, delusions, past glories, supposed future glories and so on.
If you have no idea about all these how you concluded that these are lunatics? Taliban are the same people brought from all over the world by the US and allies and call them holy wariors by the world at that time, to fight against the Russians. Most of them are not Pakistanis and no Pakistani was involved on 9/11. Now if they point gun towards them then now they called terrorist. Infact we are victim of this international terrorism and still them also portrayed as terrorists..
Oh yes, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was in Morocco at the time of his arrest. Not.
Plus, the US never backed the Taliban. They were backing the Afghan Mujahideen during the 80s.
You folks are victims of terror agreed but it is folks your government, your military, and your intelligence services trained and supported and now they are destroying your country. That is known as Blowback.
Blaming Israel, USA, India, RAW, Mossad without ever proving a shred of evidence is indicative of denial.
@duhduh666 When one fight with the Russians they are the holy warriors and when they faught against the US they are called Terrorist. I want to repeat question which I put it before on the same page. Define Terrorism or terrorist?
The Russians, perhaps back then it were rather the Soviets (Commies), tried to impose their rather useless ideology on many nations around the world. It was wise to resist them one way or another.
The US didnt impose their ideology on the Afghan people. On the contrary, they gave them freedoms to live their lives according to their cultural preferences. That however doesnt mean the US will tolerate sponsorship of terrorism against themselves and against freedom loving people.
@Wrath0fKhan What kind of freedom? They brought lot of miseries for both Afghanistan and Pakistan and infact for the rest of the world just the soviets did. If American are that much good then why all the Muslims hate America?. Are they all mad? Anywhere the head of the state America visit the protests erupts, still they call some of the countries all Muslims except Korea axis of evil.
Actually, you are yet once again wrong, khalidgeologist.
Because some freedom turned into misery that doesnt mean they hadnt bought them freedom. Freedom turned into misery because of those so called "revivalist tendencies" supported by your own people. Yet until you understand that nothings gonna change for good.
If you ask me such a childish question, comrade, i will use a childish answer. Muslims hate America because they are literally stupid.
They were known as the Afghan Mujahideen when aided by the americans. Holy Warrior was a term deployed by the press. And they were fighting what was perceived to be foreign invader in their country.
Terrorism loosely the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious. When these holy warriors are attacking the US, they are indulging in terrorism. I hope you can see the distinction.
V r not in the state of denial, & the proof was given time and again to concerned at SharmalSheikh,however if u r not accepting my version then its also u r n the state of denial.However,if we were in the state of denial then there wil b no operation against the taliban al over.But the fact is that some powers has very nefarious design against us.Now there z anything brutal hapening by our enemies,they know that v hve to blame Taliban.Regarding the education u hve mentioned z very much correct
The people are 100% right. Its democracy and the people have a say. I know and every Pakistani know that the Taliban are rude but they will not involve anything that kill the innocent people. And am not the supporter of the Taliban. It is very interesting and no one in the media has ever pointed what Obama said yesterday. He state that the people of pakistan initially didnt think that its our war, but now they think that it is our war. I would like to know from anyone what it means?
I've heard negative things about Pakistan during my youth but I never once saw it as a nation of corrupt savages, since the government is the one that advocates and conducts militant rule instead of democratic and peaceful rule. People in India will be incline to view the Pakistanis as war-hungry individuals when all they get is brutality. It's a shame some Pakistanis will blame the Indian government for their explosions and such when it can be placed on Al Qaeda, which is mostly in Pakistan!
India is a possible suspect? That would be like saying the KKK is working in Pakistan! When it comes to terrorism the one thing I know is India has never once launched a full-scale terrorist attack on foreign nations. It even prefers to avoid nuclear war. By being sandwiched between two nuclear powered enemies (Pakistan and China) the Pakistanis should realize that the Indian government has no time to play "conquer and rape foreign nations". It's busy progressing and making money.
well if america was not inhabiting a enighbour country it might be a bit fekin clearer ... the americans are best at deception ...believe your heart and not what you are told !!
PAKISTAN HAS GONE MILES IN DENIAL......EVEN WHEN THEY CATCH THEIR WIVES CHEATING ON THEM>>>>>>THEY SAY ITS A MOSAAD-RAW NEXUS CONSPIRACY........
GAURAV1140 5 months ago 3
Muslims will rape his own sister and shout Christians did it for their core agendas.
GrandmasterTigerfist 8 months ago 4
No ISI AND CIA Created Taliban To counter The Russians Invading Afghanistan not to counter USA And India but now they got out of hand and get money from foreign nations You Stupid Fuck.
Makaveli175 9 months ago
Jab wahi kaam tumne India mein pichhle 20 saal se kiya hai... Toh kya yahan phool bheja jaayega tumhaare mulk mein??
Jo beej babool kaa boye, to Aam kahan se khaaye?? Kaante hi milenge na...!!
biswadeeprath 9 months ago
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want to fuck those girls from from 1:33 to 1:45
silverthunderable 11 months ago
@silverthunderable YOU TAKE RIGHT ONE AND I WILL TAKE LEFT SIDE FAT ONE.
qwertyui66771 6 months ago
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FUCKING EVIDENCE AGAINST INDIA,ISRAEL,USA
silverthunderable 11 months ago
Funny Israel = Modern Civilized and growing country with rapidly growing economy
Palestine = rapidly degrading economy , Radical Islam turning the country back to stone age , terrorism
India = Modern Civilized and growing country with rapidly growing economy
Pakistan = degrading economy , Radical Islam turning the country back to stone age , terrorism
Both Palestine and Pakistan blame their successful neighbor ..... hmmm is there a pattern here ?
Ramikz29 11 months ago 2
Well we just have to wait and see what the raymond asshole davis fiasco is all about. Maybe that will shed sone light on reality.
mojorose 1 year ago
Pakistan population is increasing rapidly because of Indian RAW, Israel Mossad and American CIA
nayiabhishek 1 year ago 6
wat the hell !! pakistan has created taliban to tackle USA & INDIA now they had get out of control and wanted to rule PAKISTAN .
coolvaibhavrana 1 year ago 17
@coolvaibhavrana
To the point.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 4
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@coolvaibhavrana
Here is the Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari revealing that the Taliban was created by both America AND Pakistan.
"I think it is a part of your past and our past, and the ISI and the CIA created it together," Zardari told the American news channel NBC on May 7, 2009 in an interview.
OrthodoxDarwinist 8 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist
Never trust a "Pakistani President". And dont ever think that "you" are playing "them". Its the other way around. "They" are playing "you" (e.g. over and over again attempting to sell a bridge to nowhere).
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago 5
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@Wrath0fKhan
I trust a Pakistani President and his comments on history a lot more than some uneducated twat like yourself on YouTube who is desperate to deny any reality that may make his CNN/Fox News worldview untenable.
OrthodoxDarwinist 8 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist
"I trust ... a lot more"
Buying a bridge to nowhere, right?
"uneducated twat like yourself"
Attempting to sell a bridge to nowhere? Im not buying.
"deny any reality"
Slowly but surely people will unmask and embrace reality, indeed.
watch?v=nBKOOZOR7K4
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
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@Wrath0fKhan
Please remember to take your medication in the future. It's in everyone's best interests. If you continue to insist writing rubbish on YouTube whilst in a psychosis then I will have to call your mum and get her to up the dosage.
OrthodoxDarwinist 8 months ago
@OrthodoxToolOfIgnorance
"psychosis"
I see... Hence comes your reality denial.
"your mum .. up the dosage"
Selling another bridge to nowhere? Guess what - Im not buying.
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
all done by cia, mussad and RAW
MrGoodman45 1 year ago
@MrGoodman45
Riiiiight... Only evidence is missing...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 11
@MrGoodman45
Btw, just yesterday the governor of Punjab was assassinated by his own personal bodyguard. Guess what; that bodyguard wasnt a Mossad, CIA, Raw or Blackwater agent at all. He was a Muslim with allegedly (at least according to news) radical conviction.
edition.cnn(.)com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/01/04/pakistan.governor.killed/index(.)html
tinyurl(.)com/3ad4qz
Busted...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 13
@MrGoodman45 whats raw a pmc
SANDWORMGUMMIES 1 year ago
@MrGoodman45
Funny because
Israel = Modern Civilized and growing country with rapidly growing economy
Palestine = rapidly degrading economy , Radical Islam turning the country back to stone age , terrorism
India = Modern Civilized and growing country with rapidly growing economy
Pakistan = degrading economy , Radical Islam turning the country back to stone age , terrorism
Both Palestine and Pakistan blame their successful neighbor ..... hmmm is there a pattern here ?
Ramikz29 11 months ago 8
@MrGoodman45 Lol typical porky.
DeepakPawndU 2 months ago
I want my Infidel Dick in the babe in 1:45
BattleAngel1978 1 year ago
@BattleAngel1978 you after me mate !!!!
AsylumAkum 1 year ago
@BattleAngel1978 i'm first
AsylumAkum 1 year ago
@AsylumAkum after me,u 2 guys... :-)
silverthunderable 11 months ago
Dude there is no point arguing with them they won't listen no matter what . I guess sometimes its easier living in fantasy than reality .
HellsPerfectSpawn 1 year ago
@julianraw
In a sense I sympathize with your proposal, yet obviously in a globally intertwined world its almost impossible to implement such measures.
Where I disagree with you, thats your claim that there is "wisdom which works for some" (and perhaps not for others). You know, you cant defy gravity... ;-)
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 6
@Wrath0fKhan join our anti Islam zionist forum at JTF.org
hevron22 1 year ago
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 6
WHo is in charge? Talibans? hahaha. Farmers? lol..I let you guess...NATO kills civilians everyday.It makes people trust more talibans.They control the SOuth of Afgh.They are mixed in the population so, everytime something suspect moves, NATO shoots and kills also civilians.AFgh. people are in the middle of : - war lords who make money on drug and pillage and - imperialist who bomb everything...That's why people support talibans.Not cause they are progressists, they just want peace like in 1992.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
@MademoiselleMiam
Why dont you move to Afghanistan? Too much war for you? Maybe you will choose Saudi Arabia. Islam strong, peace strong! LOL
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 2
@Wrath0fKhan That's all you have to answer idiot ? LOL Weaaaaak, supa weak. Shame on you for such a lack of knowledge on the situation.You don't honor the zionist intellengencia u think u belong to dude :P
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
@MademoiselleMiam
You are the one who is lacking.
Oh, its the Jews (e.g. Zionists) again! You must be terribly jealous of those! LOL
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 3
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NATO bombing farms, mosques, mariage celebrations, funerals celebrations...didnt help either the afgh. people to trust the "freedom regim"...It reinforces on the contrary the support of talibans.Consequences of this war : a raise of +3000% in the production of opium since the end of the taliban regim.To produce opium, believe me, u need more than a poor afghan farm What, every farmer in Afgh, is a chemist now? Lol No.For that, u need laboratories and a logistic to get in in Europe.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
@MademoiselleMiam
Despite all the bombing provided for by the NATO, the statistics speak for themselves. Vast majority of the people murdered in this war were murdered by the Taliban (whether Afghan or Pakistani) and or Afghan warlords.
Again, you say "A", yet you dont say "B". Opium production flourishes in the regions controlled by the Taliban. You can download a map from the UN servers (serving as evidence).
What kind of labs and logistics did they have in ancient times?
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 3
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@MademoiselleMiam
"Despite all the bombing provided for by the NATO, the statistics speak for themselves."
Bullshits. How can you just accuse taliban of this whole mess without judging all the events since the 19 th century which lead to this situation, you idiot.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
@MademoiselleMiam
NO BULLSHIT. IT FOLLOWS FROM THE REPORTS, IN FROM THE LEAKED ONES.
WE DONT LIVE IN THE 19TH CENTURY ANYMORE. BUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THAT - OBVIOUSLY.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 5
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@Wrath0fKhan I write it again cause you censored it.
You write "What kind of labs and logistics did they have in ancient times? " about the opium (--> heroin) business in AFgh.
I answered you : "Diacetylmorphine was first synthesized in 1874 by C. R. Alder Wright," So don't talk about ancient times...
Everybody knows that u need laboratories and then logistic to make heroin and then tranport it to Europe...YOu really don't know what u talk about and that's why u censor me.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
Tired, the AFgh. people wanted peace, so, talibans were welcomed. But hey, for the foreigners, it didnt work so well after all. They forgot one detail. Afgh. is made of different ethnic groups. Talibans are pachtun. This ethny is almost 50% of the population.USA and Pakistan wanted to use them as mercenaries. But pachtouns are very independant and dont recognize the frontier between Pakistan and Afghanistan ( 19th century problem).They dont even recognize Pakistan.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
@MademoiselleMiam
Yea... Peace by piece, so to say! Indeed! Chopping of heads hands and feet. No music allowed. Women beaten in the streets. No schools for female children. A soaring population growth rate (at 3.85%). Training camps for international terrorist organizations. What a heavenly blessing!
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 3
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@Wrath0fKhan "What a heavenly blessing!"
WHO ARE U TO SAY THAT? Afghan people should decide for themselves. ANd you have nothing to say about it. Nothing.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
@MademoiselleMiam
WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT? Are you really that "thick"? Its you who shouldnt be saying a THING about it. You keep spouting intellectual GARBAGE.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 4
Brzezinski, president Carter counsellor, wanted to turn Afgh into the soviets's Vietnam to annihilate the influence of socialism in the region.To fight the Soviet Union and the revolutionnary governement of Afgh,USA and Saudi Arabia supported every mudjahidin through Pakistan.When Red army left Afgh. in 1989, USA knew that soviets were going through a serious crisis.They had reached their goal. SO they left the region which was in total chaos.WHo suffered from that?Afghans and pakistanees.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
@MademoiselleMiam
From "Mujahideen" to Taliban is quite a jump, aint it? Afghan people should be proud of themselves. They played a pivotal role in neutralizing the Soviet empire. Instead theyve chosen to walk a vacuous path. What a pity...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 3
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@Wrath0fKhan "Afghan people should be proud of themselves. They played a pivotal role in neutralizing the Soviet empire. " Man, u didn't understand at all what happened in this region. Just shut up if it's for bringing such irrelevant rhetoric. Read what i wrote, learn.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
In 2001, for Bush and its administration, the economic situation for the US was disastrous.The way to regain strenght and power was to control as many ressources as possible. Especially gaz and oil.Under the influence of Brzezinski, Clinton wanted first to dominate Europe by extending NATO and then reach central asia. The conservatists didn't choose this solution, it would have taken too much time.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
@MademoiselleMiam
Where is this strength? Where is this power? Where are is all that crude oil? Where are the licenses? Where is all the war booty?
Maybe they would have to subscribe to a different system of thought. Perhaps just like this one?
watch?v=yerDKgMiluA
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 4
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So, why this war in Afghanistan, you ask? To free the poor afghans from the taliban regim? I answer : so why the US don't go in Saudi Arabia to free the poor people from one of the hardes islamicregim on earth??? The ethic reason for this war doesnt stand the comparison one second. SO WHY? Let me recall an event that everybody has forgotten. In 1997,there has been a serious economic crisis with the burst of the asia finances bubble.the NASDAQ just collapsed.
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
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WHat is the reaction of Talibans when Washington claims Ben Laden ?: « If u want Ben Laden to be judged, give us proofs and let him be judged by an islamic court in any muslim country you like".
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
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Talibans, in the first place, had NOTHING TO DO with Ben Laden.In 1996, Ben Laden, is expelled from Saudi Arabia and goes to Sudan. Saudi Arabia put pressure on Sudan so that they expell from their country Ben Laden. It is only at this moment that Ben Laden goes to Afghanistan. The 9/11 attack has nothing to do with Afghanistan!!! However, THIS is the REASON invoked by USA to invade Afghanistan..
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
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"The US didnt impose their ideology on the Afghan people. On the contrary, they gave them freedoms" The bullshits you can read sometimes on Youtube...Let me recall some facts. 1)In 2001, the US start the operation called « Enduring Freedom », because, according to them, the talibans refuse to let go Ben Laden.9 years later, nobody talks about the public ennemy number 1. Why the f..k the US are still in Afghanistan?
MademoiselleMiam 1 year ago
denial denial denial..see what it leads to
maverickkris84 1 year ago
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i blame Musharaff the son of btich , who let the CIA agents carry out suspicious activities, during his time in Power, Now Pakistan is paying it price, American secret war in Pakistan.
the idiot on 1:55, is another example of hypocrite who spread lies, misinformation , their only goal is to protect USA interest.
May Allah Punish the enemies of Islam & Pakistan, Inshallah
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
@GreaterPakistan
I "blame" the deluded Muslims and or Pakistanis. Its your home, its your people and you are unable to "get it under control". That is - creating a prosperous, modern, civil society.
We already know who is being "punished". Those who are suffering from social, economic and scientific inferiority (doesnt apply to hunter gatherer societies), because they refuse to embrace a superior social concept. Indeed, this is measurable...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
@Wrath0fKhan
yes, We dont need western style democracy in our country, if we are Muslim state, then Sharia law should be imposed.
Yes, we are getting punished for not following Islam , Allah chooses your enemy to punish you, Nation goes through turmoil, learn quick how to establish a state, in according to Islam.
every Pakistanis know Terrorism is coming from across the Afghanistan border, we have Black-water presence in our cities, carry out suspicious activities, still our politicians?
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
@GreaterPakistan
On the contrary, you are getting punished for embracing "Muhammadan revivalism". Not only is there a very strong correlation, there is plenty of evidence and observable explanatory mechanisms.
"Allah chooses"
Self-imposed. All you need to do is abandon Allah and the spook is gone!
Did you know that "those across the border" are saying that terror is coming from accoross the border? Fascinating, aint it?
"Xe"? They are hedonists, they dont blow themselves up.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
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@Wrath0fKhan
You idiot Pakistan is made for Islam , it unfinished revolution, Pakistan prevails,
Every citizen of Pakistan is soldier of Prophet Mohammad ,we will fight for Islam & Pakistan.
Everyone know America is loosing the war in Afghanistan, spreading terrorism through Pakistan by creating TTP, making difference between groups. THEIR NO SURRENDER
All enemies can tag up , 4UCK USA, INDIA & ISRAEL
everyone will suffer, Pakistan is divine power
WE WILL MAKE HORRIBLE EXAMPLE OF OUR ENEMIES
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
You lying piece of islamofascist terrorist scum! Everyone knows that your deluded cronies are desperate and on the run! The drones are hitting them hard. On the contrary, your pseudo drones are being put into prisons over here. You even cant assess reality, thats how pathtetic you are. A bunch of loosers!
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
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@Wrath0fKhan
Go and 4uck yourself, if it was not for our traitor leaders who are on the payroll of CIA, these drone attacks could have not been carried out, which are killing many inncoent people.
USA are the real terrorist, who sponsor state terrorism , and yes dickface, We dont run, we will fight. unfortunate USA cowards dont declare war, instead play with dirty diplomacy games.
We all know what their purpose in Afghanistan, destabilising it neighbors,
But no one will save you for sure
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
@GreaterPakistan
There are no innocent people in the Islamofascist areas. They are all legit targets. Their wives (breading ovens), their kids (future fighters, suicidals), their logistic supporters, etc. Supporting terror against terror is one of the working options and theres absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Its been people like you, whove been destabilizing the world in the last couple of decades.
There is no room for such structures to keep existing in the world that is coming...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
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@Wrath0fKhan
your statement just have approved who the real terrorist are, You war is with islam, theiris no doubt about,
We all know America is controlled by fascist organisation, NWO & Jewish lobbies , who are spilling many innocent American blood in wars, just to protect Jewish ideology
Their do control the Muslim world too, Al-qaida as it tool.
These present wars are declared because of future prophecies , for Greater Israel design.
We are not stupid ,neither we live in fool paradise.
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
@GreaterPakistan
"who the real terrorist are"
Followers of "Muhammadan revivalism". Those are the real terrorists.
NWO is cool. NWO will destroy all the decrepit and useless OWOs (old world orders).
Suffering from social, economic and scientific inferiority and making bold calls - what a tool of stupidity you are...
Just look at Israel and the Jews! They have defeated your armies repeatedly. They have produced more useful knowledge than the whole Ummah in the last 100 years!
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
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@Wrath0fKhan
anway keeping mouthing off you terrorist bastrd,
it was predicted that Jews will come back to the holy land,it was also predicted Pakistan would be created , their will be conquest of india too, it prophecy.
the last hour will not come until Israel is removed the illegitimate zionist state, We are all waiting for the messiah return, Jesus will come back and kill the anti-Christ false messiah of the Jews, so you can build your Solomon temple, the victory is with the Muslims.
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
@GreaterPakistan
Most of the Muslims are pulling the short one. Most of the Muslims are loosers. So are you. All you terrorists will be finnished sooner or later. You have no idea what is "cooking". No wonder, you are a deluded "Muhammadan revivalist" yourself...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
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@Wrath0fKhan
Allah is the protector of the Muslims, we have firm believe in him, Islam is the last revelation, you cannot defeat Allah chosen people with false allegation, tagging the innocent people as Terrorist, we all know who the real terrorist are, Your so-called 9/11 , to change the world with policies, favoring Jewish ideology.
anway, Islam is growing fast in your own backyard. carry on with your fake propaganda
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
GreaterFool, I dont care whether you have belief or not. I care about the "results". And those are shattering! You and your cronies were exposed. Social, economic, scientific inferiority is measured whereve your so called perfect system strikes.
As far as I know, "Jewish ideology" is far superior to yours. Results are measurable.
Islam is growing because your womens role is the one of a "breeding oven". Yet I dont have to worry. Already know parts of the Ummah are suffering famine.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
or killing each other and then blaming it on outsiders.
duhduh666 2 years ago 17
You are the phony here, GreaterFool...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
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@Wrath0fKhan
You illegitimate son of whore, born in the west, Dont push it here dick-face, before i bash your head, in reality you will be on the floor, Jewish nazis scums.
Coming here spreading lies, you are complete idiot.
Listen Jew boy, i'm Pakistani, not Iraqi, Lebanese or German, Ask for it you will get hard.
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
@GreaterPakistan
You primitive son of a rapist and an illiterate mother. You have been discredited over and over again. Dont forget to martyr yourself!
consang(.)net/index(.)php/Global_prevalence
hdr(.)undp(.)org/en/statistics
scimagojr(.)com/countrysearch(.)php?w=world
rsf(.)org/en-classement794-2008(.)html
w w w1.internationalliving(.)com/qofl2010
watch?v=3Pk2-vr4sSw
watch?v=QwlW9Qq_zEc
etc...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
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GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
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@Wrath0fKhan
Just let you know dicfkace, anyone who will ask for it hard, the real contest will be on battle field, From Pakhtun Pakistani
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
DEATH TO OUR ENEMIES
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
@GreaterPakistan
WTF?! Youve been already exposed, you incestoid fucktard son of a rapist and an illiterate woman!
Do you want a drone dropping a couple of hellfires on your house or what? Just ask for it you moron!
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Your words speak for your character and thinking. Whatever your beloved TV personalities say......question it and do research before accepting them as facts.
Pritash24 2 years ago
@Pritash24
Lets not blame it on some TV personalities, lets stay with facts...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
brother..stop wasting your time on this porki "Greater porkistan"..i had fucked him on several occassions but like other porkis he is shameless scum and a dirty Pisslamic follower....they soon gonna be fucked by the entire world n they realy dont know wats cookin....porkistan will disintegrate or will be wipeed off the face of this planet...they are born slaves and meant to be slaves( Pisslam's beggining shows that the were slaves)
leoberetta92r 2 years ago
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we all pakistanies easily defeat raw moosad and black water because these are so so cruel agencies but our isi is great
zainali101 2 years ago
No shyte...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
well....its nice to see that our neighbors in pakistan havent lost their minds livin in that shithole. pakis...theyre funny
dethica 2 years ago 4
"Terrorism is the best political weapon
for nothing drives people harder
than a fear of sudden death."
Adolf Hitler
baboonsquadron 2 years ago
0:56 " our terrorist" what does it mean by our terrorist,,if it is your terrorist than how can somebody suport them
realvoice09 2 years ago
First of all you might be thinking that I am the supporter of the Taliban which is not correct. But equal evil are those who call themselves to be civilized. More peoples are brutally killed by the operations in Iraq, Palestine and Afghnistan.They American butchered 150 people along in one wedding cermoney in Afghanistan,more than 500 prisoners killed by B55 in Qilla Jangi, thousand are killed in Iraq where there is no proof of WMD, what happening in Guatanamo bay, 700 innocent civilain and only
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
I didnt say that (you were a Talib supporter).
We (the "West) have no killing commandos in Iraq. Sure there were some fools and misguided ones shooting around and unfortunatelly killing some people, yet the vast majority was obiously killed by the "insurgents". The "West" cant do much there. The more you shoot, the more you kill. Same applies to Afghanistan. Sure, the wedding was a big tragedy, but what do you want to do? Do their relatives therefore have to start blowing up schoolgirls? No.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Simple Question for you.
After 9/11 Al-Qaeda was held respobsible & Afghnistan wer attacked supported by almost all the world.Iraq was charged wid allegation of WMD while Israel have(No other allegation)which was not there.Iraq was comparatively peaceful before US invasion.Then thousands killed(am sure will be no insurgency if no invasion) without the consent of the UN.Anyone call the US & its allies barbarian?Who wil held them accountable?And da most important who is going to define terrorism?
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
Yet what do "you" want to do now, khalidgeologist? Continue the insurgency? What sense does it make? According to latest informations we have, Saddam was drying up all the marshes in the south. Some locals even claim that this project of his what the ultimate WMD he had. Now there is some revitalization going on. Look up the report on CBS. This would as well challenge your "no insurgency" claim. Some claim its difficult to define terrorism, yet if someone blows a mosque full of worshippers...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
The inforamtion must be from the same agency who informed that Saddam has WMD? Its again mere a speculation.The Iraqis are yet to built the Atomic bomb while the American use it on the innocent peoples of Japan.
Well, if he has then what about the countries who are declared nuclear weapon including my country Pakistan. When America has its own interest during the Afghan war give Pakistan certificate of country who not possess nuclear weapon, falsely.
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
Its not a speculation. Its seems like a fact (provided the report is true). Find and watch that report. It even seems you didnt understand well, what I was talking about (or I didnt express myself well, or both).
Innocent or not, paradoxically more Japanese people were saved by those two atomic bombs when compared to the score that would have died in a full scale attack. The Militaristic elite considred to declare a fight to the death.
I dont know what "certificate" you are talking about.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
So you recommend that in order to aviod full scale war one should used Nuclear weapon. Its only a hope that lot of people are saved by using nuclear weapon.
I as muslim and a Pakistani are open to criticism and we have own shortcomings. I often says in Public who blame India, Israel and America in the recent spate of violance (And when I writing these words there are more blasts in Pakistan) that its our own short comings that encourage to others to use our own soil.
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
There already was a full scale war. Raging for several years. Millions of people were already dead. And even more would have died. It was a war stopper. Even more, it saved the Japanese from a possible Soviet occupation. We know how other occupied countries ended up. Im not talking about hope, im talking about comparable campaigns, which evidently cost many more lives. Nowadays any nuclear attack on a "nuclear nation" would yield mutual destruction or many more casualties...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Why blaming "others"? Look into those who financially support Taliban and Qeada. Look at those "Salafis" who are spreading radicalization and even hatred against anything "foreign" and "impure" and who practically help to create and sustain this atmosphere of hatred. Look at "your" own mistakes.
Pakistan is really not doing well:
hdr.undp(.)org/en/statistics
Believe it or not, but through invoking the "Rashidun" nothing is gonna change for the better.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Remove the brackets and eventually any free spaces...
cbsnews(.)com/stories/2009/11/12/60minutes/main5635191(.)shtml
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
30 terrorist r kiled by drone attacks n Paki acording 2 US own estimates,more than 1500 kiled n Gujrat violance n India,thousand kiled n Gaza by Israel,more than 40000 kashmiris killed n last 20 years & list goes on.If u agree or not some of the so called wel civilized r as evil or even more than Taliban,their brutalities quite new while these countries kiled millions of innocent lives in World wars for thier vested interest for the last so many centuries.
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
Indeed, in all those incidents you are mentioning here, khalid, the Muslims are always involved as a party to the dispute. Why is that so?
Because the "West" made some heavy mistakes in the past, therefore you must point at those? In this case that sounds like a distraction. Perhaps its better to learn from those mistakes...
Obviously, Taliban, Qaeda, their associates and backers are one of the key challenges of the first half of the 21th century.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
So if you refering to the past mistake made by WEST then you are acknowleging the fact that this is the root cause which sow seed of hatred and if this policies continued then its only a wish to remain in peace in this world.
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
The root cause, which through diverse processes results into hatred, is ignorance. It was ignorance of the "West" not to recognize the complexities of the broader "Middle East". It was ignorance of the broader "Middle East" not to recognize the need to update and reform itself.
Yet im "reminding" you again. The past is the past. There is no need to blow people up. Especially not if they are "your" neigbours. No matter how much "shaytan" (used as a metaphor here) is tempting...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Yes the past is past, but the lingering issue of the Palestinians z still there & da American r again & again supporting the Israel having nuclear weapon provided by USA. Just bring the statistics & candidly think who blowing more.
It is not past, it is the present when the President of America declare it as clash of civilization & used word crusade.If v accept that 9/11 was not an inside job, then agains this was the policy of the USA that triggered such kind of catastrophe
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
I have no clue why you keep mentioning Israel, khalid. Pakistan has its own nukes too. Rather watch them closely or something terrible might happen.
The "clash" was declared by some self-proclaimed "True Muslims" a few decades ago.
Crusade is a word commonly used in the "West" just as Jihad is used in the "Middle East". Crusade became to mean something like "bearing Christs cross". Jihad means struggle in the name of Allah/God. You see crusade as something bad, we see jihad that way.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
I m not the only 1 that mentining Israel but whole has termed it as problem whch created hatred among us.Regarding Pakistani nukes,I mentioned it before that American congress issued certificate of countries who not posses or try to have nuclear weapon in the ninties whch includes Pak.Because at that Pak was n front line to wage war against the Russians & whn war finished multiple restrictions was imposed.Thats concern area that where there is interest then they support even the nuclear weapons
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
Sorry, I dont udnerstand well what you mean, khalidgeologist. Maybe you can rephrase your statement.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
The growing popularity of a fellow like Zaid Hamid in Pakistan is indicative of the delusions that has infected the thinking of young Pakistanis not to mention the affluent older folks who are all educated.
duhduh666 2 years ago 4
Yeah... The policy of the USA. Thats what you claim, kahlid. I cant agree there. I see that as the policy of the Ummah. Something we dont understand well at all.
Even if the Ummah isnt united, just as the West isnt either, there are certain subgroups and certain general tendencies that play a critical role in this show down.
I can tell you what the inside job is. Its the billions of Dollars that have flown into Arab/Muslim hands and those now keep financing "Jihad"...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Oh, the Palestinians... The Palestinians are just used as means. The Palestinian elites have misused the locals and so did other Arab nations misuse the Palestinian elites. After losing several wars one is not in a position to make demands. Do you think we dont know about the Nazis that were hiding in Egypt and Syria and that were continuing their nazi, now even islamo-nazi, crusade-jihad against the Jews? Its much more complicate than you might think...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Get this delusion out of your head. Pakistan is not Palestine and vice versa. Speaking about Palestine as if it is some kind of core issue for Pakistan is ridiculous and retarded to put it mildly.
Even if the US acted as the most beneficent superpower in the history of mankind, Pakistan would still be going through all these troubles until there is a change in mindset. And an embrace of reality. Not the peddling of fantasies, delusions, past glories, supposed future glories and so on.
duhduh666 2 years ago 3
If you have no idea about all these how you concluded that these are lunatics? Taliban are the same people brought from all over the world by the US and allies and call them holy wariors by the world at that time, to fight against the Russians. Most of them are not Pakistanis and no Pakistani was involved on 9/11. Now if they point gun towards them then now they called terrorist. Infact we are victim of this international terrorism and still them also portrayed as terrorists..
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
If it was as simple as that, khalidgeologist...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Amen Brother. If life were only as simple as Khalid or Greater Pakistan would want it to be.
duhduh666 2 years ago 3
Oh yes, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was in Morocco at the time of his arrest. Not.
Plus, the US never backed the Taliban. They were backing the Afghan Mujahideen during the 80s.
You folks are victims of terror agreed but it is folks your government, your military, and your intelligence services trained and supported and now they are destroying your country. That is known as Blowback.
Blaming Israel, USA, India, RAW, Mossad without ever proving a shred of evidence is indicative of denial.
duhduh666 2 years ago 4
@duhduh666 When one fight with the Russians they are the holy warriors and when they faught against the US they are called Terrorist. I want to repeat question which I put it before on the same page. Define Terrorism or terrorist?
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
The Russians, perhaps back then it were rather the Soviets (Commies), tried to impose their rather useless ideology on many nations around the world. It was wise to resist them one way or another.
The US didnt impose their ideology on the Afghan people. On the contrary, they gave them freedoms to live their lives according to their cultural preferences. That however doesnt mean the US will tolerate sponsorship of terrorism against themselves and against freedom loving people.
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
@Wrath0fKhan What kind of freedom? They brought lot of miseries for both Afghanistan and Pakistan and infact for the rest of the world just the soviets did. If American are that much good then why all the Muslims hate America?. Are they all mad? Anywhere the head of the state America visit the protests erupts, still they call some of the countries all Muslims except Korea axis of evil.
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
Actually, you are yet once again wrong, khalidgeologist.
Because some freedom turned into misery that doesnt mean they hadnt bought them freedom. Freedom turned into misery because of those so called "revivalist tendencies" supported by your own people. Yet until you understand that nothings gonna change for good.
If you ask me such a childish question, comrade, i will use a childish answer. Muslims hate America because they are literally stupid.
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Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
dictionary.reference(.)com/browse/terrorism
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
khalidgeologist,
They were known as the Afghan Mujahideen when aided by the americans. Holy Warrior was a term deployed by the press. And they were fighting what was perceived to be foreign invader in their country.
Terrorism loosely the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious. When these holy warriors are attacking the US, they are indulging in terrorism. I hope you can see the distinction.
duhduh666 2 years ago 3
V r not in the state of denial, & the proof was given time and again to concerned at SharmalSheikh,however if u r not accepting my version then its also u r n the state of denial.However,if we were in the state of denial then there wil b no operation against the taliban al over.But the fact is that some powers has very nefarious design against us.Now there z anything brutal hapening by our enemies,they know that v hve to blame Taliban.Regarding the education u hve mentioned z very much correct
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
what about the red mosque where there were bunch of their own Pakistani people waged war against them where women and children were killed.
sunilf007 2 years ago
Indeed... Yet its a bit problematic to change anything, since if you induce some change, "they" keep crawling out of the woodwork...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
The people are 100% right. Its democracy and the people have a say. I know and every Pakistani know that the Taliban are rude but they will not involve anything that kill the innocent people. And am not the supporter of the Taliban. It is very interesting and no one in the media has ever pointed what Obama said yesterday. He state that the people of pakistan initially didnt think that its our war, but now they think that it is our war. I would like to know from anyone what it means?
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
I've heard negative things about Pakistan during my youth but I never once saw it as a nation of corrupt savages, since the government is the one that advocates and conducts militant rule instead of democratic and peaceful rule. People in India will be incline to view the Pakistanis as war-hungry individuals when all they get is brutality. It's a shame some Pakistanis will blame the Indian government for their explosions and such when it can be placed on Al Qaeda, which is mostly in Pakistan!
hippocampus23 2 years ago 2
@hippocampus23
Most likely...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
India is a possible suspect? That would be like saying the KKK is working in Pakistan! When it comes to terrorism the one thing I know is India has never once launched a full-scale terrorist attack on foreign nations. It even prefers to avoid nuclear war. By being sandwiched between two nuclear powered enemies (Pakistan and China) the Pakistanis should realize that the Indian government has no time to play "conquer and rape foreign nations". It's busy progressing and making money.
hippocampus23 2 years ago 2
@hippocampus23
Agreed...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Taliban have no reason to attack civilians in Pakistan.
There are a number of reasons for foreign governments to sow chaos in Pakistan though.
danmanjones 2 years ago
Yeah... And we all are living just a dream...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
There we go with the denial.
duhduh666 2 years ago 6
well if america was not inhabiting a enighbour country it might be a bit fekin clearer ... the americans are best at deception ...believe your heart and not what you are told !!
s6jjy123 2 years ago
%&*#@$#&
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
realy pakis have great sence of humour
jadhavnitin992000 2 years ago 2
You call it "great", i would call it "strange"... :-\
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago