@bEeEb2008 Let me tell you what's "stupid", Stupid. Calling a non-Jew a "stupid Jewish pig". What's even dumber than stupid, Stupid... is when you don't recognize the biblical reference to Islam, which is a nation unto itself meaning Dar Al Islam, or as I like to call Muslims(note the quotation marks) "wild asses of men". It's a shame you're such an ignorant person. I blame your parents. Were they ignorant too...or did they just raise you poorly?
@wideawake123 listen to me, from ur comments i figured out that u are an arrogant brain washed bas...rd,,,, just like to inform u that ur prayer for bashar al-assad to stay in power is rejected, coz when bashar runs away from syria he's gonna go to israel and we're gonna chase him to there.........
@DanceWeMe No, the Arabs Are the "occupiers". Like jonahfox says below "It isn't occupied territory it is disputed territory. By definition, for a land to be considered occupied it must have been stolen from a recognized nation." When Jordon gave up it's claim, it became Israel's province...and considering the treatment of nominal "Palestinians" by their Arab-Muslim "brothers", it was the best possible outcome. The Jews historically treat Arabs Muslims more ethically than Arab Muslims do.
@daderone your same old lie , you take me to the prehestoric age to tell me that jews lived in palestine , ok i will come with you , when islam came , they converted to islam , and thus arab people are the descendents of past jews , you have no place in palestine , you've got to understand that. all the world hates you, i wonder why?
@DanceWeMe you asked a question and I gave you the facts. Israel has been in the same place for 3,000 years. Now tell me where your country was. Whether you like it, understand it or agree Israel is, has been and remains the homeland of the Jewish people. Yes many invaders sought conquest, occupation, 2 drive out & murder the Jewish people in their land. It never changed the fact that Israel is the birthplace & home of the Jewish people, thats why many never left. To this day Israel remains.
@daderone I am not against jews , i am against zionism , there are a lot of jews who are against zionism. Palestine is a homeland for muslims and christians and jews. It has been like that for thousands of years , you aren't going to change that in a couple of years . we shall see the day palestine get their freedom back and kick the criminals out of palestine , the message of islam was a message of peace , you are the murderers, we remenber : Deir Yassin and Qana , we shall never forget :)
@DanceWeMe You are against the majority of Jewish people but I guess that doesn't matter to you. Its not about changing anything. Israel is here to stay, like it or not. Your rhetoric and bs small minded perspective and bias against Israel isn't going to help the Palestinians or anybody in the region. There will be peace when the Palestinians are willing to prioritize peace and recognize the reality that any permanent solution will be the result of direct negotiations with the Israelis.
@daderone so what , the majority is wrong , omg i have a small minded perspective lol !, look , tell me why israel is building settlements in palestinian lands ? even the USA condemned it , but they dont care , they dont give a shit about the UN or about peace or about international laws. be serious and open your mind to realise that your time is over , it's time for freedom to rise again , it has started since the victory back in lebanon in 2000 and later in 2006 and it shall continue :)
@DanceWeMe saying you only agree with 1% of Jews and hate the rest and claiming that you're not an anti-Semite is the equivalent of saying you're not a racist and don't hate 'good black people' but only the rotten 99% of them. Its mindless bigoted idiocy and I'm sorry you don't care but I do. The the West Bank is disputed territory. Instead of being so content with demonizing people who've built their own communities why not be real and advance negotiating a solution? There is no legit excuse.
@daderone you want to build a country from the nile to euphrate , that's written in your books, it's not a problem of disputed land , it's about the control of the whole region , you start with the west bank than expand to other countries exactly like cancer.. and don't tell me the crap about anti-semite , arabs are semits too , advise go read books , read history and stop saying crap
@DanceWeMe Who was the "Palestinian" President in 1947? Who was Prime Minister of "Palestine" in 1947? I can't seem to fing a "palestinian" national figurehead...OR Charter OR National Constitution that predates Israel's Declaration of Statehood, or the UN's decision to grant it. Seems that prior to 1948, that land belonged to everyone BUT "Palestinians". In fact...Those people called themselves ARABS until around 1964. "Palestinian" is a made-up word like "Saharan", not a nationality at all.
@DanceWeMe actually the people who launch mortars at civilians and blow themselves up on buses to kill women and children are terrorists. But I'm sure you knew that and are fine with people who do things like that as long as it ultimately gives you an excuse to demonize their victims. Why? To justify your small minded perspective and generalized bs.
@daderone in your definition when somebody tries to defend himself and his family that's a terrorist .. yeah got it , why you always forget that you do the same thing to children and women , you know why , because you don't have the guts to fight like men
@DanceWeMe actually thats according to your definition. From my definition a terrorist is someone who purposefully targets civilians with the goal of killing as many innocent civilians as possible. And regardless of your intent to remain ignorant nobody I support does that. Unlike the many you're 'defending'.
It would have been nice if the Fogel family had had one of these dogs this past March when Arab Assassins crept into their house and stabbed 5 of them to death while they slept. Maybe Udi, Ruth and their children 10-year-old Yoav; 4-year-old Elad; and 3-month-old Hadas would still be alive. If there is a fund to help supply guard dogs for the Jews in Sammaria, I would be willing to donate.
@Vwatcher12 It isn't occupied territory it is disputed territory. By definition, for a land to be considered occupied it must have been stolen from a recognized nation. However, there was never a nation called Palestine. Prior to Israeli control it was under Jordanian control, before that British and then Ottoman. You can't even say it is occupied from Jordan because Jordan gave up its claim to the West Bank in the late 80's. Britain no, and Ottoman certainly not.
@jonahfox Excellent observation and it puts the issue into perspective. Technically, the Arabs "Occupy" that land...and only at the pleasure of the Jewish State. After the '67 and '73 Arab wars on Israel, that land belonged to Israel. Before that, it was part of Jordan.
@Vwatcher12 Yes...the sooner the world is rid of the Arabs occupying Gaza and the West Bank, the sooner there will be peace in the region. I think the new policy in Sammaria should be "A Guard Dog in Every Jewish Home"(preferably black). If the Fogel family had had one, Arab Assassins would not have been able to sneak into their house while they slept and slaughter them.
@DanceWeMe What the Fuck are you talking about Hadji? The Slaughter of the Fogel family by Arab Muslim Asssassins happened just this March. That bullshit about "slaughtered palestinian families" makes me laugh...Thank God, that it's Israel these assassins are attacking and not other Arabs, ya? Considering how Arabs like to slaughter other Arabs, it might get all "Black September" or "Hama" for them. More Arab Occupiers were killed by Jordan in 1 month than by Jews in the entire 64 years.
@wideawake123 bullshit ! go and see yourself hundreds of youtube videos from reuters and associated press showing you barbarian massacres ! they shoul kill all of you :)
@DanceWeMe I'm not Jewish, or Israeli. If the Jewish State were so bad, why don't the 20% of it's citizens who are Arab Muslims complain about it? Why aren't Their voices represented here on Reuters? I'll tell you why...because They Have no such complaints. They enjoy freedoms in Israel that No Arabs living outside of Israel enjoy Anywhere in the Arab world. Israel had to build security fences to keep you rabble Out. It must suck knowing that Israel treats it's Arabs better than other Arabs do.
@DanceWeMe One look at LadyChickpea would dispell any such notions. That girl...could make a gay man straight. As far as "gay" goes... What could be "gayer" than a man with the nic "dancewithMe".
@wideawake123 well perhapse because it's destinated to women ^^ and i think all of you are like women , you cry like women , to shout like women , fucken israelis ;-)
@DanceWeMe I'm not Israeli Dude, not even Jewish. You missed the point. You don't have to be to appreciate the difficulties they face daily. All you need to know is how Arab-Muslims act towards other when in the majority. I think a guard dog would have saved the Fogels from Arab Assassins killing them while they slept, don't you? "destinated to women"? Looking at your channel page, it's impossible to discern anything about you so to "destinate" your nic, I'd suggest you flesh out your profile.
@daderone Israel signed the agreement that the West Bank was to be for Palestinians yet they constantly encroach upon what remains of Palestinian lands, often taking people's farms if not their also their homes as well as their livelihoods. Even J Street, a Jewish group which wants peace with Palestine & a two state solution, has soundly condemned the take-overs.
@mmedefarge What agreement was that? Oslo 2 gave Israel full control over Israeli settlements, Security zones, most roadways connecting the settlements, and some other stuff. It gave Israel full control over over 70% of the west bank and 25percent was joint Israel-Palestine control. Palestine I like got 3% completely under their control.
@mmedefarge Israel is still waiting on the Palestinians to return to the negotiating table and direct talks in order to negotiate permanent solution to the disputed territories. So far they've waited for a while. As such I was a founding member of Jstreet and it no longer represents myself as a pro-Israel pro-peace Jewish American. I'm still waiting on the Palestinians to return to negotiations instead of wasting time and rejecting peace. Israel seeks a partner for peace.
@daderone Didn't Jordan hand over the West Bank with the stipulation that it be under the Palestinian Authority & did not the U.N. say in 1979 that these Israeli settlements are illegal? The guy with the dogs here is a far right-winger; he's about as interested in peace & a 2 state solution as is Hamas.
@mmedefarge I disagree, he might be a right winger but he's giving families guard dogs to protect them from those wishing them harm or violence. Not giving them mortars/rockets and telling them 2 go launch them at as many civilian Palestians as they can hit @ once.
Sorry there is no such comparison to be made. The settlers, despite how you'd like to portray them have built communities, homes, roads, temples parks, greenhouses, water treatment plants etc. hamas creates weapons & destruction.
@mmedefarge No...to guard the Jewish Settlements in Sammaria. To fend off Arab assassins who come in the night and stab 3 month old babies to death. I wonder if you have any idea what nightmares Arab Muslims inspire throughout the world? What kind of creepy creatures pimp out their children as human bombs. The world despises you. If not for Arab Oil...the entire ME, except of course Israel would be left to rot. You're Somalia with oil.
Israelis=wild pigs
bEeEb2008 6 months ago
@bEeEb2008 Sons of the Bastard Ishmael (Muslims) = "wild asses of men"
wideawake123 6 months ago
@wideawake123
haha stupid jewish donkey ...
Muslims are from different nations some are Arabs some are Europeans some are Indians some are Latinos
not like jewish pigs who are racism and from certain countries ...
bEeEb2008 6 months ago
@bEeEb2008 Let me tell you what's "stupid", Stupid. Calling a non-Jew a "stupid Jewish pig". What's even dumber than stupid, Stupid... is when you don't recognize the biblical reference to Islam, which is a nation unto itself meaning Dar Al Islam, or as I like to call Muslims(note the quotation marks) "wild asses of men". It's a shame you're such an ignorant person. I blame your parents. Were they ignorant too...or did they just raise you poorly?
╭∩╮（︶︿︶）╭∩╮ Asshole.
wideawake123 6 months ago
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@wideawake123 listen to me, from ur comments i figured out that u are an arrogant brain washed bas...rd,,,, just like to inform u that ur prayer for bashar al-assad to stay in power is rejected, coz when bashar runs away from syria he's gonna go to israel and we're gonna chase him to there.........
.............╭∩╮（︶︿︶）╭∩╮ Asshole.
abdklk 1 month ago
Settlers=Terrorists
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe Arab Muslims = Terrorists who indoctrinate their children from birth to hate others on the basis of Religion.
wideawake123 6 months ago 2
@wideawake123 yes indoctrinate their chlidren to fight the occupiers
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe No, the Arabs Are the "occupiers". Like jonahfox says below "It isn't occupied territory it is disputed territory. By definition, for a land to be considered occupied it must have been stolen from a recognized nation." When Jordon gave up it's claim, it became Israel's province...and considering the treatment of nominal "Palestinians" by their Arab-Muslim "brothers", it was the best possible outcome. The Jews historically treat Arabs Muslims more ethically than Arab Muslims do.
wideawake123 6 months ago 2
@wideawake123 read history my friend , where was israel before 1948 ?
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe Israel has been in the same place for 3,000 years. Where was your country then?
daderone 6 months ago
@daderone your same old lie , you take me to the prehestoric age to tell me that jews lived in palestine , ok i will come with you , when islam came , they converted to islam , and thus arab people are the descendents of past jews , you have no place in palestine , you've got to understand that. all the world hates you, i wonder why?
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe you asked a question and I gave you the facts. Israel has been in the same place for 3,000 years. Now tell me where your country was. Whether you like it, understand it or agree Israel is, has been and remains the homeland of the Jewish people. Yes many invaders sought conquest, occupation, 2 drive out & murder the Jewish people in their land. It never changed the fact that Israel is the birthplace & home of the Jewish people, thats why many never left. To this day Israel remains.
daderone 6 months ago
@daderone I am not against jews , i am against zionism , there are a lot of jews who are against zionism. Palestine is a homeland for muslims and christians and jews. It has been like that for thousands of years , you aren't going to change that in a couple of years . we shall see the day palestine get their freedom back and kick the criminals out of palestine , the message of islam was a message of peace , you are the murderers, we remenber : Deir Yassin and Qana , we shall never forget :)
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe You are against the majority of Jewish people but I guess that doesn't matter to you. Its not about changing anything. Israel is here to stay, like it or not. Your rhetoric and bs small minded perspective and bias against Israel isn't going to help the Palestinians or anybody in the region. There will be peace when the Palestinians are willing to prioritize peace and recognize the reality that any permanent solution will be the result of direct negotiations with the Israelis.
daderone 6 months ago
@daderone so what , the majority is wrong , omg i have a small minded perspective lol !, look , tell me why israel is building settlements in palestinian lands ? even the USA condemned it , but they dont care , they dont give a shit about the UN or about peace or about international laws. be serious and open your mind to realise that your time is over , it's time for freedom to rise again , it has started since the victory back in lebanon in 2000 and later in 2006 and it shall continue :)
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe saying you only agree with 1% of Jews and hate the rest and claiming that you're not an anti-Semite is the equivalent of saying you're not a racist and don't hate 'good black people' but only the rotten 99% of them. Its mindless bigoted idiocy and I'm sorry you don't care but I do. The the West Bank is disputed territory. Instead of being so content with demonizing people who've built their own communities why not be real and advance negotiating a solution? There is no legit excuse.
daderone 6 months ago
@daderone you want to build a country from the nile to euphrate , that's written in your books, it's not a problem of disputed land , it's about the control of the whole region , you start with the west bank than expand to other countries exactly like cancer.. and don't tell me the crap about anti-semite , arabs are semits too , advise go read books , read history and stop saying crap
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe Who was the "Palestinian" President in 1947? Who was Prime Minister of "Palestine" in 1947? I can't seem to fing a "palestinian" national figurehead...OR Charter OR National Constitution that predates Israel's Declaration of Statehood, or the UN's decision to grant it. Seems that prior to 1948, that land belonged to everyone BUT "Palestinians". In fact...Those people called themselves ARABS until around 1964. "Palestinian" is a made-up word like "Saharan", not a nationality at all.
wideawake123 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe actually the people who launch mortars at civilians and blow themselves up on buses to kill women and children are terrorists. But I'm sure you knew that and are fine with people who do things like that as long as it ultimately gives you an excuse to demonize their victims. Why? To justify your small minded perspective and generalized bs.
daderone 6 months ago
@daderone in your definition when somebody tries to defend himself and his family that's a terrorist .. yeah got it , why you always forget that you do the same thing to children and women , you know why , because you don't have the guts to fight like men
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe actually thats according to your definition. From my definition a terrorist is someone who purposefully targets civilians with the goal of killing as many innocent civilians as possible. And regardless of your intent to remain ignorant nobody I support does that. Unlike the many you're 'defending'.
daderone 6 months ago
It would have been nice if the Fogel family had had one of these dogs this past March when Arab Assassins crept into their house and stabbed 5 of them to death while they slept. Maybe Udi, Ruth and their children 10-year-old Yoav; 4-year-old Elad; and 3-month-old Hadas would still be alive. If there is a fund to help supply guard dogs for the Jews in Sammaria, I would be willing to donate.
wideawake123 6 months ago
Well "People" wouldn't be so scared if they weren't living in an occupied territory that they stole.
Vwatcher12 6 months ago
@Vwatcher12 It isn't occupied territory it is disputed territory. By definition, for a land to be considered occupied it must have been stolen from a recognized nation. However, there was never a nation called Palestine. Prior to Israeli control it was under Jordanian control, before that British and then Ottoman. You can't even say it is occupied from Jordan because Jordan gave up its claim to the West Bank in the late 80's. Britain no, and Ottoman certainly not.
jonahfox 6 months ago
@jonahfox Excellent observation and it puts the issue into perspective. Technically, the Arabs "Occupy" that land...and only at the pleasure of the Jewish State. After the '67 and '73 Arab wars on Israel, that land belonged to Israel. Before that, it was part of Jordan.
wideawake123 6 months ago
@Vwatcher12 Yes...the sooner the world is rid of the Arabs occupying Gaza and the West Bank, the sooner there will be peace in the region. I think the new policy in Sammaria should be "A Guard Dog in Every Jewish Home"(preferably black). If the Fogel family had had one, Arab Assassins would not have been able to sneak into their house while they slept and slaughter them.
wideawake123 6 months ago
@wideawake123 still talking about this particular story since several years , forgetting hundred of palestinian families slaughtered ! CRIMINALS !!
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe What the Fuck are you talking about Hadji? The Slaughter of the Fogel family by Arab Muslim Asssassins happened just this March. That bullshit about "slaughtered palestinian families" makes me laugh...Thank God, that it's Israel these assassins are attacking and not other Arabs, ya? Considering how Arabs like to slaughter other Arabs, it might get all "Black September" or "Hama" for them. More Arab Occupiers were killed by Jordan in 1 month than by Jews in the entire 64 years.
wideawake123 6 months ago
@wideawake123 bullshit ! go and see yourself hundreds of youtube videos from reuters and associated press showing you barbarian massacres ! they shoul kill all of you :)
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe I'm not Jewish, or Israeli. If the Jewish State were so bad, why don't the 20% of it's citizens who are Arab Muslims complain about it? Why aren't Their voices represented here on Reuters? I'll tell you why...because They Have no such complaints. They enjoy freedoms in Israel that No Arabs living outside of Israel enjoy Anywhere in the Arab world. Israel had to build security fences to keep you rabble Out. It must suck knowing that Israel treats it's Arabs better than other Arabs do.
wideawake123 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe And no...I wont dance with you.(unless you're a hottie like LadyChickpea)
wideawake123 6 months ago
@wideawake123 i didn't figure that you are gay ;)
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe One look at LadyChickpea would dispell any such notions. That girl...could make a gay man straight. As far as "gay" goes... What could be "gayer" than a man with the nic "dancewithMe".
wideawake123 6 months ago
@wideawake123 well perhapse because it's destinated to women ^^ and i think all of you are like women , you cry like women , to shout like women , fucken israelis ;-)
DanceWeMe 6 months ago
@DanceWeMe I'm not Israeli Dude, not even Jewish. You missed the point. You don't have to be to appreciate the difficulties they face daily. All you need to know is how Arab-Muslims act towards other when in the majority. I think a guard dog would have saved the Fogels from Arab Assassins killing them while they slept, don't you? "destinated to women"? Looking at your channel page, it's impossible to discern anything about you so to "destinate" your nic, I'd suggest you flesh out your profile.
wideawake123 6 months ago
Dogs to guard illegal settlements?
mmedefarge 6 months ago 6
@mmedefarge to protect families from those with your view who might wish and seek them harm. I would assume.
daderone 6 months ago 4
@daderone Israel signed the agreement that the West Bank was to be for Palestinians yet they constantly encroach upon what remains of Palestinian lands, often taking people's farms if not their also their homes as well as their livelihoods. Even J Street, a Jewish group which wants peace with Palestine & a two state solution, has soundly condemned the take-overs.
mmedefarge 6 months ago
@mmedefarge What agreement was that? Oslo 2 gave Israel full control over Israeli settlements, Security zones, most roadways connecting the settlements, and some other stuff. It gave Israel full control over over 70% of the west bank and 25percent was joint Israel-Palestine control. Palestine I like got 3% completely under their control.
IamYoddle 6 months ago
@mmedefarge Israel is still waiting on the Palestinians to return to the negotiating table and direct talks in order to negotiate permanent solution to the disputed territories. So far they've waited for a while. As such I was a founding member of Jstreet and it no longer represents myself as a pro-Israel pro-peace Jewish American. I'm still waiting on the Palestinians to return to negotiations instead of wasting time and rejecting peace. Israel seeks a partner for peace.
daderone 6 months ago
@daderone Didn't Jordan hand over the West Bank with the stipulation that it be under the Palestinian Authority & did not the U.N. say in 1979 that these Israeli settlements are illegal? The guy with the dogs here is a far right-winger; he's about as interested in peace & a 2 state solution as is Hamas.
mmedefarge 6 months ago
@mmedefarge I disagree, he might be a right winger but he's giving families guard dogs to protect them from those wishing them harm or violence. Not giving them mortars/rockets and telling them 2 go launch them at as many civilian Palestians as they can hit @ once.
Sorry there is no such comparison to be made. The settlers, despite how you'd like to portray them have built communities, homes, roads, temples parks, greenhouses, water treatment plants etc. hamas creates weapons & destruction.
daderone 6 months ago
@daderone
seek them harm because they have stolen their lands.
angelusp777 6 months ago
@mmedefarge No...to guard the Jewish Settlements in Sammaria. To fend off Arab assassins who come in the night and stab 3 month old babies to death. I wonder if you have any idea what nightmares Arab Muslims inspire throughout the world? What kind of creepy creatures pimp out their children as human bombs. The world despises you. If not for Arab Oil...the entire ME, except of course Israel would be left to rot. You're Somalia with oil.
wideawake123 6 months ago