yes this is a great cymbal, i have one of my one and some of the tones you can get out of it are phenomenal! it can easily transfer over to jazz if you have enough control because this is a very loud cymbal. that is why its a great crash for when you really make an epic accent. obviously great for rock and many other genres!
I saw this cymbal at a local drum shop and I was in love. I couldn't buy it cuz a 24" wouldn't fit in my drum bag so I setled with a 22" twenty paiste ride
Just to put my 2 cents in about it being thin. I've learned that for durability it is always better to go big and thin. It absorbs way more of the shock than a thick big cymbal would.
Bonzo reputedly never cracked a cymbal - probably helps to have talent like that to save the equipment. They are very wobbly rides and not loud or piercing like a modern metal ride, but give a vast array of sounds across the acres of bronze I use mine for Jazz and lighter stuff! If you want to emulate Bonzo you need a lot of amps or try the 2002 rides.
It is thinner than the 2002 24" ride. (I too noticed that it is not on Paiste´s website anymore), I think that Rev Al`s ride is based on the Giant series. I was a bit skeptic first but noticed that it fitted very well into a band sitiuation. Really like it.
Could anyone tell me if this cymbal is good as just a crash? I've heard it's a good crash/ride but the thing is the cymbal is thin, and if it is good as a crash I will be placing it flat, at head height...is this good for the cymbal? I'd rather not experiment when I get it.
Ya i saw one at the store and i have the 24" 2002, the edge tapers exactly like a crash ride should, not thick, but not buttery, should work quite well, also be on the lookout for a video of the new 2002 24" Bid Ride, same as a Giant Beat but in 2002's skin (well, almost)
Mowgli131: No, placing cymbals flat at head height is probably the worst way you can place a cymbal if you're expecting it to last a while. And sticks too, come to mention it.
Cymbals aren't designed to be hit on the edge by the shoulder of the stick, they're designed to be hit on their main body with the tip. You could get away with it if you're a light hitter, but considering you want a 24" crash, I guess you're not... these aren't too thin, Bonham used them for christ's sake.
Bonham used to play Giant Beats, though they were the very old school ones. Also Patrick Keeler of Raconteurs plays them he does use a small stick but thats his style. I think you'd be fine cause Patrick was beating the Crap out of them when I saw Raconteurs at Lollapalooza.
Actually, Keeler uses a pretty thick stick, the same thickness as Bonham's in fact. When they did a closeup on the 24" one time, it looked kind of bent out of shape.
Tried one in a shop the other day, when the attendant wasn't looking hit it as hard as I could - everyone in the shop stopped and looked at me, it was so bloody loud.
I think weights can be misleading when it comes to volume. Take Crash Rides, usually thin-ish, usually pretty deafening.
I own and play this cymbal for everything from rock to jazz. I like it for jazz but I don't think most "real" jazz drummers would since it's very washy. If you play hard bop on it things can tend to get a bit messy.
Paistes in general are very loud, and since the gian beat series was developed in the sixties, before close-miking and modern PA's I'm fairly sure sure it will keep up with the rest of the band.
soooooo want one of those!
musicajuro 5 months ago
Nice cymbal!
tnmusicman1 6 months ago
sgot a pretty nice crashsound, i guess :)
I200gI 7 months ago
yes this is a great cymbal, i have one of my one and some of the tones you can get out of it are phenomenal! it can easily transfer over to jazz if you have enough control because this is a very loud cymbal. that is why its a great crash for when you really make an epic accent. obviously great for rock and many other genres!
squeezemylever5 8 months ago
hahah doesn't sound bad, i have the vintage 20'' from the 70's, it sounds great!
loveofkorn 1 year ago
i was all zildjian cause i was young and the salesman said it was the best, now im going all paiste...
PattyWhomperOFFICIAL 1 year ago
I love watching all of these videos. It's actually better than searching on the websites for cymbals. When you get to hear all of them here!
spikew10 1 year ago
I saw this cymbal at a local drum shop and I was in love. I couldn't buy it cuz a 24" wouldn't fit in my drum bag so I setled with a 22" twenty paiste ride
pete7wiegard 1 year ago
sounds similar to the 2002 24 crash ride
ShappyMusiks 1 year ago
this is the mother of all cymbals
joeyhandeland 1 year ago
Just to put my 2 cents in about it being thin. I've learned that for durability it is always better to go big and thin. It absorbs way more of the shock than a thick big cymbal would.
theflyingcat123 1 year ago
Bonzo reputedly never cracked a cymbal - probably helps to have talent like that to save the equipment. They are very wobbly rides and not loud or piercing like a modern metal ride, but give a vast array of sounds across the acres of bronze I use mine for Jazz and lighter stuff! If you want to emulate Bonzo you need a lot of amps or try the 2002 rides.
monkalone1 1 year ago
Hi, i know you have said it's a Yamaha Brass Snare (14 x 5.5). But what model is it as there are quite a few Brass Snares on the market. Thanks.
smellybellyhand 1 year ago
i adore those Giant Beats!
i hope i'll get them at some point
maciekomis 1 year ago
its really always the same snare in all thier vids
turf453 1 year ago
What snare is that? Is it the usual Yamaha brass 14"x6.5"?
Humachineman 1 year ago
@Humachineman always is
triforce10155 1 year ago
@Humachineman Yamaha 14x5.5 Brass Snare Drum with Die Cast Hoops
memphisdrumshop 1 year ago
It is thinner than the 2002 24" ride. (I too noticed that it is not on Paiste´s website anymore), I think that Rev Al`s ride is based on the Giant series. I was a bit skeptic first but noticed that it fitted very well into a band sitiuation. Really like it.
drumsanddrumming 1 year ago
I play rock but I do like thinner , jazzier cymbals- and yes I should put up a video.
drumsanddrumming 1 year ago
do you suggest hitting it on the edge?
cuz i think it would break with a single strong hit
masterbeat04 1 year ago
I MUST HAVE IT!!!!!
jubalate 2 years ago
Just brought one, it's ace quieter than my old 20" paiste signature crash ride, so less complaints from sound men across the uk !!!
fatdazday 2 years ago
That has got to be the best cymbal ever!
DSCRAPRE 2 years ago
Hi,
Could anyone tell me if this cymbal is good as just a crash? I've heard it's a good crash/ride but the thing is the cymbal is thin, and if it is good as a crash I will be placing it flat, at head height...is this good for the cymbal? I'd rather not experiment when I get it.
Thanks.
Mowgli131 2 years ago
@Mowgli131 yes actually it is it recovers very well, nothing like it.
TAMAvsDW 2 years ago
Ya i saw one at the store and i have the 24" 2002, the edge tapers exactly like a crash ride should, not thick, but not buttery, should work quite well, also be on the lookout for a video of the new 2002 24" Bid Ride, same as a Giant Beat but in 2002's skin (well, almost)
jodgey4 2 years ago
@jodgey4 - I`ve got Rev Al`s Big Ride- pretty awesome- also got his, (Alex van H`s) Ludwig snare..
drumsanddrumming 1 year ago
@drumsanddrumming - How is Rev Al's big ride?? i really want one. is it thinner than the normal 24" 2002 ride?
guitarristachileno 1 year ago
Mowgli131: No, placing cymbals flat at head height is probably the worst way you can place a cymbal if you're expecting it to last a while. And sticks too, come to mention it.
Cymbals aren't designed to be hit on the edge by the shoulder of the stick, they're designed to be hit on their main body with the tip. You could get away with it if you're a light hitter, but considering you want a 24" crash, I guess you're not... these aren't too thin, Bonham used them for christ's sake.
lordieuan777 2 years ago
sweet...
aassyr1111 2 years ago
I WANT ONE.
MRMEATMARKET 2 years ago
these are hard rock, man, bonham loved and beat the crap out of these, dude like get 'em
jodgey4 2 years ago
Well, as long as you weren't blasting on it, I'm sure it'd do fine. With proper technique, that is.
BrainDamage769 2 years ago
ive got this cymbal, its amazing for live playing
JOHNNYLEWIS1 2 years ago
This cymbal is as durable as any other 24" on the market. I would think it would be well suited for hard rock.
memphisdrumshop 2 years ago
usually i don't even think about the durability of a cymbal when i buy it but for the giant beats i find them pretty sturdy. whatever sounds good.
westhofer8 2 years ago
seconding, i wanna use this as a crash ride kind of thing but i don't want to break it...
DavySolaris 2 years ago
Bonham used to play Giant Beats, though they were the very old school ones. Also Patrick Keeler of Raconteurs plays them he does use a small stick but thats his style. I think you'd be fine cause Patrick was beating the Crap out of them when I saw Raconteurs at Lollapalooza.
buttersworth13 2 years ago
Actually, Keeler uses a pretty thick stick, the same thickness as Bonham's in fact. When they did a closeup on the 24" one time, it looked kind of bent out of shape.
MRMEATMARKET 2 years ago
played on that yesterday, sounded amazing.
guitarnick914 2 years ago
That sounds amazing, just hearing that makes me wanna hear some How Many More Times! I mean that just nails that early days Bonham sound.
bhagan92 2 years ago 3
Anyone worrying about volume: don't.
Tried one in a shop the other day, when the attendant wasn't looking hit it as hard as I could - everyone in the shop stopped and looked at me, it was so bloody loud.
I think weights can be misleading when it comes to volume. Take Crash Rides, usually thin-ish, usually pretty deafening.
lordieuan777 2 years ago
thats big :D
WaterGallon 2 years ago
I own and play this cymbal for everything from rock to jazz. I like it for jazz but I don't think most "real" jazz drummers would since it's very washy. If you play hard bop on it things can tend to get a bit messy.
ludwigtrap 2 years ago
I think it'd be alright for Jazz. Usually you'd want a darker cymbal than this for jazz, but it has all the washiness you could want.
zachplaysdrums 2 years ago
it depends of wich kind a jazz music you wanna play,
i recomend you to get something like a zildjian constantinople or something like that, and have this one too
chompototo1 2 years ago
Well, he just played some jazz beats, so what do you think yourself?
phoneboothplus1 2 years ago
Paistes in general are very loud, and since the gian beat series was developed in the sixties, before close-miking and modern PA's I'm fairly sure sure it will keep up with the rest of the band.
raizumichin 2 years ago 2
I have this one and is definitely the best :)... I also like the 2002's
adileneatilano 2 years ago
thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you, finaly a decent video of the 24 giant beat. thank you!
AllThatZZTop 2 years ago 14