TOO MUCH POWER TO SHIFT FASTER!!!! HOLD ON WHY I GRANNY SHIFT BECAUSE IM TOO SCARED OF BREAKING MY TRANNY!!!! MY AWD IS POORLY MADE AND WILL BLOW UNDER ALL THIS BOOST!!!! HOW COME NOONE ELSE HAS THIS PROBLEM!!!????? THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO BUY SOMETHING ELSE!! (lets off throttle)...... i see smoke dude (passenger says to driver). driver suddenly thinks to himself, damnit..... shoulda' went with an evo. or a skyline. hell maybe even a honda. if i did, this wouldnt have happend.
@Camg3591 you do realize this is the same engine as the evo and the trannies are good for up to 400tq right? lol skyline because we have those in the US.
@numba1netsfan oh yes sir i am more than aware of this. but, you failed to see my point. the 4g63 found in the evo is actually a stronger and more durable 4g63 than those found in the eagle talon and the eclipse of some models. yes the "4g63" may be the same but thats about as far as it goes. with an evo your not going to be tearing a rear end apart by launching at 6k rpm's. my comment was merely a joke. i have a close friend with a gst eclipse. it may not be my style but it is a nice ride.
@Camg3591 I've cut a few 1.5 60' and gone 10.6 @ 140mph on a stock t-case and rear end with 166k miles on my 92 eagle talon. Never broke a drivetrain part yet in the 4 years I have owned it most of the time in which it has been 500+whp.
@ls1maro99 damn i was gonna comment on that post under ya..im gonna validate ur sayin by a too have a AWD talon on a 6262 and have launched it at 6500 and never broke anything..the evo drive train is actually weaker than the evo..the weakes part on the evo is the center diff,they tend to blow apart at a 2-step launch at 6500 and a carbon fiber clutch..in not trollin im jus also addin my comment cuz i have done it also
@ls1maro99 you got me there i guess. because one of two things are at play here. 1. you are the only guy ive met who takes proper care of his car. or 2. you got very lucky on getting a talon that wasnt molested before you got it. guessing the first one. the friend i was talking about with the gst has a cousin i know has went through im thinking 3 transfer cases. i also met a few guys in my area that said they went through a few. if im wrong, im sorry, i was just kidding around. pure boredom.
@Camg3591 gst is a fwd they don't have a transfer case. Yes I did search around quite a bit before picking one up. These cars are cheap to get a hold of and a lot of people don't know what there doing and thats how dsm's get a bad name. My buddy daily's his 91 awd talon that has made 512whp and ran a best of 10.7 @ 135mph. Out of the four years I have had mine it has left me stranded only twice and for the dumbest reasons,
@ls1maro99 yea i know. and he spins all of the place too. and the only time ive ever been stranded is when my coil went out. well that and ran out of gas.
@numba1netsfan i guess i just get tired of seeing all the bashing comments on honda's and such. i never knew all the hate that most dsmer's have towards anything not dsm until i was looking up some nasty gsx vids. i thought all of us 4 banger guys were all in it together to whoop up on the douchbags that think they are the shit because of their v-8's. dont get me wrong i like some v-8's myself. just not some people who drive'em. guess i was wrong. hell i like'em all. i just like to joke around.
@CoChicken1337 haha you can beat around it as much as you want you know you were trying to act like you know more "hurr hurr I know a lot about turbo cars man, I ruled out everything you said"
I really wasn't trying to be rude, but if you want to think that then it's fine with me. I really don't care. If I was trying to be an asshole I would have made it much more blatant.
1) Probably just hitting rev limiter a couple times, the 'dirty' sound you hear is the external wastegate opening at full boost.
2) Lots of turbo cars run rich in boost. either this car wasnt fully tuned or it was tuned a bit rich to be conservative and you're just seeing the extra fuel burned in the exhaust. I had my talon tuned for a 10.5 A/F ratio to be conservative and it'd smoke in boost too.
Haha. Just to let you know man, I know a lot about turbo cars. I know you were trying to help but I already ruled out everything you said.
1) It wasn't the rev limiter because in first gear he took the RPM's higher than when the stuttering started in second. Also, I know what an open downpipe sounds like. I didn't ask about that.
2) It was white smoke not black, and it was coming from the engine bay not the exhaust. Even with a cut-out it wouldn't have looked like that.
bottles are for babies... DSM owns you..... and american muscle is too heavy...... nor ccan they launch without being on a track with 36 inch slicks....... dsm owns you
@shika66 well, the 5.0 mustang is ligher than dsm's they are 2700 lbs if you get the lx coupe. i respect a fast car no matter where it came from. fast is fast.
DSM power !!!! I have 95 talon AWD and when we had a foot of snow outside I was still getting around even when there were just trucks left driving. I even past a few that couldn't go up a hill because of no 4wd. I'm sold on dsm I can drive my car in the snow, rain, even off road with 20 pounds of boost and hook up great. Can your F-body do that ????? lol
@dblock13 you dont have to agree because its a fact for the amount of money you spend on your "muscle" cars if you dump that money into a eclipse or 240 or rx7 an american car wouldnt touch it and you gotta be a block head not to agree
i strongly agree. i dumped 5k in a 93 5.0 and couldnt do nothing with it cause tuners were still holding up. i spent 1k in my gsx and not only am i outrunnin V8s, i can drive it all year around, even when it snows
@AKHomicide thats because a laser,eclipse,talon are all the same thing there all mad buy dimond star motors (dsm) which means they were made in the u.s by a team that included chrysler.
@FordsAreSuperior well at least owning a DSM you know what can go wrong so you can fix it, with a Ford....you never know why or whats going to break next.
@FordsAreSuperior thats only on one engine, the 4g63. 420a's do not crankwalk jackass know ure facts. and all wheel drive turbo is not retarded. itll spank anything u got.
Well, perhaps, but I appreciate, and love, many cars, from many nations. It just a fact that these 2 cylinder to 4 cylinder cars just don't have the engine tones too ever sound imposing, or interesting. Oh you can make them fast as shit, no doubt, but they STILL sound like crap. There is not a single import owner that if possible; wouldn't trade in their cars engine notes for those of an American V8, I doubt even one. Not the car mind you, thats personal, but the SOUND? no question!
@mikeytfot1 hey man thats awesome thats exactly how i feel. Ive had a v8 that sounded sweet thats why i respect them. and ive had honda that sounded amazing too. It really does depend on the person cause i get so much more of a spine chill from an inline 4 with turbo etc.. My favourite sound was the rx7 i had
We actually had a dirt track car in the shop today with a 383 stroker running open headers. Loud as hell, but It was a beast. I loved the sound of the backfire.
But it still doesn't take the place of imports in my preferences.
I really don't people buy cars because their sound. I like the sound of my 2 cars that are 4 cylinders. I think its personal preference... you like your american v8 sound I like my turbo 4 cylinder sound.
just throwing this out there its not a fucking import you fucks it was made on american soil the only thing import aobut it is the name they didnt ship the thing from japan homos now stop bitching and learned to love a car for the car regardless of the make and dis. of the motor who gives a shit if you have a v8 that can beat 4 cyl or vise versa i kno i dont i personally dont like v8s and you know what none of you should really give a shit so shut up about this shit and just give the guy credit
Its all about money.. Talking about Big blocks and stuff. Screw big blocks. Just get a built v8 twin turbo Firebird or something of that such. Other then that. Its cheaper to build a 4 cyl. whats funny is most v8 people Don't respect the fact that imports are built! Not just bought fast like your average v8. If you were a respectable V8'er you would respect us imports. Vise versa. I respect v8's. But!!! You have to think.. Did this guy go from a na 140 hp eclipse to a 380 on his own?? RESPECT!!!
I'm an import guy that respects muscle. They're good on straights, I give them that. Too heavy for much else though, unless it's like a new vette or something, but that doesn't really count as muscle much anymore does it? xP
Why dont everyone stop being a fuckin retard, give your props that the car is fast, and yes American Muscle are fast too, But stop flipping out and wasting comment space on stupid shit.
God damn, when are all you mother fuckers gonna grow up, I get sick of seein this shit on every video I go one.
you can debate N/A vs boosted all you want at the end of the day, a 2.0 "4 banger" is still smokin V8's. thats 2 or 3 times the motor. man thats gotta suck.
@jeff92303 ur full of shit put some videos of you car up then talk shit, your sitting an your room/basement looking on ebay dreaming about those cars you talk about.
@eclipse10101 why...i don't need to post vids to know what i oun BITCH. and i don't buy e-bay gunk.....mebe you do, mommy buy me a china brand e-16g for car.( thats u)
now with out looking it up. tell me the comp-wheel specs on a 35-82 turbo. (you don't know it)
. how about a bullseye power s-256? see boy. these are things i oun. that you cant buy. cuz your broke. and don't even oun a motor that can handle the power they can make. lil 420a eclipse pussy poser. cant even buy a 4g63.
@jeff92303 and you try to talk shit about looking up specs. wtf does that shit mean, i aint got no nice whip but if i did id be damn sure to have some videos up doin a burnout or something. like fuck buddy i aint beliving your shit
@eclipse10101 do a burnout or somthing...your a fucking kid.you make a vid tearing your shit up puck. you don't have to believe SHIT. but iam going for a ride in the talon holla at ya poser.
@jeff92303 Which ones do you have? Each one of those turbos have 2 types.
Also, I have some ebay stuff on my Talon, so do a lot of DSMers for their dailies. Some of these products (Intercoolers mostly) are pretty good for the price, but I would never trust an ebay turbo, that's why we have Extremepsi lol.
As for the 420A eclipse comment, there are A LOT of those cars with potential. Some of them on stock internals with an ebay turbo kit, tuning, other supporting mods have pulled mid 12s.
That's fine. Put it up against a turbo big block to be fair & eliminate the N/A vs turbo debate. I was just giving the advantage to the 2.0. It's not matching an equally built 1500-2000+HP 7 liter. Obviously it's easier/cheaper to fully build the smaller motor to outrun a less built larger motor than it is to build the larger motor to the same extremes as the smaller 2.0, but if you do build it that way, it wins.
You can have a fast fully built turbo 427 all day.
but putting that beast on the line is another story.
The torque in a 427t would shatter the drive line the second its launched unless its replaced. and even then you still can't be sure that it wont shatter.
@mikeytfot1 , I don't know, that 2300HP F.I. N/A 892ci built by Nelson, that's been running a whole year hasn't broken any shafts., it's equal or better than a built turbo 427, & twice as big. It hooks & launches without smoking the wheels most of the time, obviously it doesn't hook sometimes. On the street it's obviously screwed for traction, but even at that, it's still a 6 sec willy's coupe, & a street legal car at that. Don't get me wrong, I understand what your saying about breaking shafts
Yeah because it's been built to handle it. I'm just talking about dropping a 427t straight into a car without and other mods and thinking someone is going to whip some ass.
lol
And yeahh. I have broken a few myself. not so fun when you try to hook in 3rd, in a 300zx that spins through 4th, while running the track. It's scaryyyy.
But, not as scary as the hood not being latched completely and it flies up and smashes your windshield on the highway.
Hey guys I read your things an some are up n some are down . American this japan that . I have a front wheel drive dodge omni I know haha but the little mother fucker does low tens an I make all the corvetts an gto's sick to their stomach all wheel drive it's a myth om not sayin nothin bad but rember nomatter how bad you are their is someone badder .proud to be n race American .
v10viper04 your camero v8 fails..your not in the same ballpark..see we have fast cars lol All of us DSM boys and girls drive 4cyl turbos. and we dont really care what u think...haha with a good turbo and high boost. 18-22psi.. we make well over 380hp.we can out run most v8s its ok. thats what we do. i hope you understand what im trying to say. is you fail... "what maybe hes going to try to school me on his next post" hahah fail...
You say Talon is American as i agree, eagle was owned by Chysler BUT you state at the end "DSM for life" Weird how the Talon is technically NOT a DSM..... Dumbass rice pussy. hahaha
I'm sure dipshit, really? you think so? That's why the EAGLE logo has an EAGLE in it? Fuckin moron, there is no star in the logo moron, only on the eclipses. Also DSM is Mitsubishi NOT chysler! Sure they may has used to same engines but AGAIN its NOT technically a DSM... ask any DSM owner, my friend drives a Talon TSi and he agrees with me. Your a fucking moron. Seriously STFU before I own you anymore... Fuckin rice pussy.
WOW! You just made yourself look even dumber than you already were! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Yea no shit the talon is a Chrysler but a DSM is a MITSUBISHI!!! Weird how that works huh? You rice pussies make me laugh, inbred dipshits..... get rid of your tinker toy and buy a real car..... that can ACTUALLY make power. Fuckin loser.
any talon, laser, eclipes made from 1990 to 1998 is a dsm.
hahaha here you go buddy
Diamond-Star Motors (commonly abbreviated to DSM) was an automobile-manufacturing joint venture between the Chrysler Corporation and Mitsubishi Motors Corporation (MMC).[1] The name came from the parent companies' respective logos: three diamonds (Mitsubishi) and a pentastar (Chrysler)
shove a dick up your ass.
and inbred? it seems to me that rednecks like you are the inbred ones hahaha
Good one! Can't make up your own diss? O that's right your too retarded to think of anything new. And shove a dick up my ass? You got a fantasy running through your head fag?
so i was correct. as usuall. and your just butt hurt about it. its okay buddy. sometimes you just gotta take it like a man. hahaahah you act like a child.
Your a dumbass basically, no i didn't drop the DSM part. I still refuse to believe that a Chrysler IS a Mitsubishi....(Which you are claiming) As far as i'm concerned your the butthurt one calling in your buddy to help you out lol. All you rice pussies run and mate within your herd of dipshits. Also who drives the slow/unreliable DSM?...... You... Sorry man, you have to hear it though.
"winna winna chicken dinna!!!! " More like your 12 yrs old. Fuckin faggot. Did you really say that? That is the STUPIDEST thing i have EVER heard. All your rice pussies are such faggots! BAHAHA!!
why do ppl want to fight if the tranny in a dsm is weak or not. im not hating on the car at all i love dsm's i wont own one again unless its a weekend car because out of the 5 i had all but 1 fucked up all the time but i love them.
which is why it takes him so long to get into gear.. a friend of mine has the same problem and needs a new tranny.. either the VR4 tranny or the shep.
Lol, you obviously know nothing about dsm's. Their trannies are very strong, they will take up to 400ft/lbs of torque. I have proved that time and time again. I build my own race transmissions for these cars. I own a 9 second talon.
lol ok you cant really say you build your own race tranny and then tell me how strong the tranny is. and yes dsm trannys are weak. unless maybe you upgraded the syncro;s and what not and still want to call it stock..or wait when you bought a used tranny and swaped it in maybe you thought it was stock but i bet its not.sorry you fail everyone knows how weak they are,well the syncro's are weak the gear its self is ok.but sorry im not so sure i think you have a 9sec talon and didnt know they break
You are such a lieing sack of shit. You have never had a solid built car. Not our fault you can't keep a car together. I build trannys because I have over 900hp in my car. A stock dsm tranny will take 400ft/lbs all day. That is in no way weak. So they will take 500hp about. Learn some shit before you speak again.
ummm ok, well considering we are talking about a stock dsm tranny i thought you would be smart enough to know we arnt talking about me haveing a solid "built" car...we are talking about stock cars with bolt ons,wow i didnt know some one could be so stupid.and i said out of the 5 i had 1 didnt break and that one was built,all others had the same parts when one broke i moved it to a diff car.but it had gt35 turbo supporting fuel,sheet metal intake mani 35+psi on meth inj.just to name a few things
I was talking about having a solid built stock car, if they are hacked together like most are because arrogant people that think they can build a car get ahold of them they will break and fall apart. As for me being stupid when it comes to DSM's you might wanna remember I build these trannies for a living and buy and sell these cars all day long. I am no noobie to these cars. I have a 900HP 9 second talon and a 600hp DD. Please don't try and reply back with some other idiotic response.
Well laugh it up, your a fag. V8's are slow and a DSM will beat them any day any time. Don't be stupid look up stock 1/4 mile times. You will be shocked at how slow your precious gas guzzling V8's are.
you are the dam arrogant one you fight with me about the fact that they break or not. and then you fight with this guy saying that v8's are slow... i love imports and im not the biggest fan of v8's but its a bigger motor and mod for mod they pretty much should win. yes you spend more to get a v8 and they weigh more but if built right they can be fast, any car can be fast i have seen a mini van run a mid 10, so shut up about whos car can be faster just find out who has more money and they win lol
Well if it is money than that would most likely be me. I am not fighting with you it is the other way around. You think they break all the time and in the 6 years I have had my 91 AWD the only thing that has broken is the remanufactured alternator that came with it. I swapped in a OEM one and have never had a problem with it. Same goes for my 95 but the rear O2 sensor crapped out. Now I will be the more mature person and leave this "argument" at that.
Hard blocked, JE 10:1 pistons, Carillo rods, O-ringed block, Eagle crank knife edged and balanced, PTT twin disk, GT42R, HKS 288's, ferrera valves, SI dual springs, My own race tranny, AEM EMS, tubed front end, DSS driveshaft, DSS stage 5 front axles, level 5 rear axle/hub kit, Aeromotive eliminator Fuel pump, dual banked 1600cc injectors, bunch of other random supporting mods, and 50+ PSI!!
Wrong, I smoke my friends Eclipse all day long! he ran a 14.9 stock, thats shit! HAHAHAHA My camaro walks my other friend with a Talon with a built motor and 18g Turbo. STFU your an idiot. Lets compare N/A to N/A and Boosted to boosted. Dipshit.
HAHAH your a fucking retard, a stock DSM will never beat a camaro, when my car was mostly stock, 14b, fuel upgrades, exhaust, intake, and a boost controller I beat my buddies LS1 camaro by at least .5 seconds in the 1/4. You know nothing about DSM's. They are the worlds fastest 4 cylinder and the worlds fastest full wieght AWD car at a 7.9 second, hes going for low 7's or 6's next season.
YOur an idiot.... Stock DSM's run high 14's stock, Mid-Low 14 at their VERY VERY BEST. LS1's run mid 13's shitbag. 240hp stock vs 325hp... wonder which one will win? hmmm... your a fuckin moron. What was the 1/4 mile run that you beat your buddy by .4? Because i'm pretty sure your full of shit. Idiot.... Learn the facts before opening your dickhole.
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suprast91 3 months ago
That poor front suspension. A little on the soft side, methinks.
joeshmo14760 3 months ago
Stop, let him catch up...pin it! Stop..let him catch up...PIN IT!!!
xblackhawk29x 5 months ago
tht thing runs like a raped ape
mra1288 6 months ago
Thats an eclipse buddy
xboxerable 6 months ago
@xboxerable Thats an eagle talon buddy...
xblackhawk29x 5 months ago
@xboxerable dats actually the laser model...
Etah2n 4 months ago
Too bad it won't last long... It's probably already a shell in some guy's garage.
Vanz180sx 6 months ago
get it!!!!
4G63DSMPOWER 7 months ago
sounded like it hit fuel cut
chillicobra 7 months ago
@EVILEMPIRE951 they are very fun to work on
dalesocks 8 months ago
Love the dsm calling card; laggard shifting with insane spooling between! Is that fuel cut coming out of first?
bleachworthy 8 months ago
@EVILEMPIRE951 yea tail lights give it away less they switched laser light to their car.
Manac87 8 months ago
aaahhh DSM....if only my gf screamed like you...
alexhotmale 8 months ago 8
@alexhotmale get a bigger dick and she will.
lor3nzod 7 months ago
is that open wastegate?????/
krayziebonejr 9 months ago
sounds like an open DP or open wastegate..sweet either way !!
RidinOnRails 9 months ago
TOO MUCH POWER TO SHIFT FASTER!!!! HOLD ON WHY I GRANNY SHIFT BECAUSE IM TOO SCARED OF BREAKING MY TRANNY!!!! MY AWD IS POORLY MADE AND WILL BLOW UNDER ALL THIS BOOST!!!! HOW COME NOONE ELSE HAS THIS PROBLEM!!!????? THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO BUY SOMETHING ELSE!! (lets off throttle)...... i see smoke dude (passenger says to driver). driver suddenly thinks to himself, damnit..... shoulda' went with an evo. or a skyline. hell maybe even a honda. if i did, this wouldnt have happend.
Camg3591 9 months ago
@Camg3591 you do realize this is the same engine as the evo and the trannies are good for up to 400tq right? lol skyline because we have those in the US.
numba1netsfan 9 months ago
@numba1netsfan oh yes sir i am more than aware of this. but, you failed to see my point. the 4g63 found in the evo is actually a stronger and more durable 4g63 than those found in the eagle talon and the eclipse of some models. yes the "4g63" may be the same but thats about as far as it goes. with an evo your not going to be tearing a rear end apart by launching at 6k rpm's. my comment was merely a joke. i have a close friend with a gst eclipse. it may not be my style but it is a nice ride.
Camg3591 9 months ago
@Camg3591 I've cut a few 1.5 60' and gone 10.6 @ 140mph on a stock t-case and rear end with 166k miles on my 92 eagle talon. Never broke a drivetrain part yet in the 4 years I have owned it most of the time in which it has been 500+whp.
ls1maro99 9 months ago
@ls1maro99 damn i was gonna comment on that post under ya..im gonna validate ur sayin by a too have a AWD talon on a 6262 and have launched it at 6500 and never broke anything..the evo drive train is actually weaker than the evo..the weakes part on the evo is the center diff,they tend to blow apart at a 2-step launch at 6500 and a carbon fiber clutch..in not trollin im jus also addin my comment cuz i have done it also
futrevo1 9 months ago
@ls1maro99 you got me there i guess. because one of two things are at play here. 1. you are the only guy ive met who takes proper care of his car. or 2. you got very lucky on getting a talon that wasnt molested before you got it. guessing the first one. the friend i was talking about with the gst has a cousin i know has went through im thinking 3 transfer cases. i also met a few guys in my area that said they went through a few. if im wrong, im sorry, i was just kidding around. pure boredom.
Camg3591 9 months ago
@Camg3591 gst is a fwd they don't have a transfer case. Yes I did search around quite a bit before picking one up. These cars are cheap to get a hold of and a lot of people don't know what there doing and thats how dsm's get a bad name. My buddy daily's his 91 awd talon that has made 512whp and ran a best of 10.7 @ 135mph. Out of the four years I have had mine it has left me stranded only twice and for the dumbest reasons,
ls1maro99 9 months ago
@ls1maro99 yea i know. and he spins all of the place too. and the only time ive ever been stranded is when my coil went out. well that and ran out of gas.
Camg3591 9 months ago
@numba1netsfan i guess i just get tired of seeing all the bashing comments on honda's and such. i never knew all the hate that most dsmer's have towards anything not dsm until i was looking up some nasty gsx vids. i thought all of us 4 banger guys were all in it together to whoop up on the douchbags that think they are the shit because of their v-8's. dont get me wrong i like some v-8's myself. just not some people who drive'em. guess i was wrong. hell i like'em all. i just like to joke around.
Camg3591 9 months ago
WOW THAT THING IS FAST!!!!!!AND IT PULLS HARD!!!!
CtJohnson22 1 year ago
@Bbdrew...... so 10.5 a/f would be conservative... wat if you tune to rich or to lean. what would be the results...
PABLORL1989 1 year ago
"I know you were trying to help but I already ruled out everything you said."
"Thanks anyway."
How is that acting like an asshole? How did I come across as angry at all? You don't have much of a social life, do you?
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337 haha you can beat around it as much as you want you know you were trying to act like you know more "hurr hurr I know a lot about turbo cars man, I ruled out everything you said"
Quit being a typical youtube tool
Bbdrew 1 year ago
@Bbdrew
I really wasn't trying to be rude, but if you want to think that then it's fine with me. I really don't care. If I was trying to be an asshole I would have made it much more blatant.
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
DSM= DA SHIT MAN
CRABCORE4EVA 1 year ago 2
DSM = beast!!!!!!!!!!
xKAOTIXx 1 year ago
I just have a couple questions.
1) Was the stuttering just caused by hitting fuel cut or was it something else?
2) What was the white smoke coming from the 1G caused by?
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337
1) Probably just hitting rev limiter a couple times, the 'dirty' sound you hear is the external wastegate opening at full boost.
2) Lots of turbo cars run rich in boost. either this car wasnt fully tuned or it was tuned a bit rich to be conservative and you're just seeing the extra fuel burned in the exhaust. I had my talon tuned for a 10.5 A/F ratio to be conservative and it'd smoke in boost too.
Bbdrew 1 year ago
@Bbdrew
Haha. Just to let you know man, I know a lot about turbo cars. I know you were trying to help but I already ruled out everything you said.
1) It wasn't the rev limiter because in first gear he took the RPM's higher than when the stuttering started in second. Also, I know what an open downpipe sounds like. I didn't ask about that.
2) It was white smoke not black, and it was coming from the engine bay not the exhaust. Even with a cut-out it wouldn't have looked like that.
Thanks anyway.
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337
Well you OBVIOUSLY know more than everyone else.
1) Open Downpipe is not the same as open wastegate
2) It's a dark video, and at night in headlights any color smoke can appear white.
Thanks anyway.
I mean, I obviously don't know anything about turbo cars - I just have a super super slow DSM
Bbdrew 1 year ago
@Bbdrew
I tried to be nice about it but oh well. People rage at everything these days.
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337
Lol you tried to be nice about it?
No, you came out and acted like an asshole, raging at ME like I called you an idiot.
hahaha, youtube commenters these days
Bbdrew 1 year ago
this guy needs to learn how to drive...
username2153 1 year ago
god damn dude WTF
WestsideJuggaloFam 1 year ago
bottles are for babies... DSM owns you..... and american muscle is too heavy...... nor ccan they launch without being on a track with 36 inch slicks....... dsm owns you
shika66 1 year ago
@shika66 well, the 5.0 mustang is ligher than dsm's they are 2700 lbs if you get the lx coupe. i respect a fast car no matter where it came from. fast is fast.
ok333 1 year ago
Like my friends say "PALTIOOOOOOOO"
hasama81 1 year ago
thats not over boost lol thats just one bad as DSM:)
xeg6x 1 year ago 16
DSM power !!!! I have 95 talon AWD and when we had a foot of snow outside I was still getting around even when there were just trucks left driving. I even past a few that couldn't go up a hill because of no 4wd. I'm sold on dsm I can drive my car in the snow, rain, even off road with 20 pounds of boost and hook up great. Can your F-body do that ????? lol
nitrors4pr 1 year ago
unfortunately, i have an over boost problem on my dsm too. pulls hard, but sucks having no control of the boost
wirtro 1 year ago
@wirtro probably a crappy hose leading to your WG actuator
bleachworthy 1 year ago
cars are cars. power is power. respect that or shoot yourself. dont hate on a platform because it isnt your type of shit.
SunnyBlaze2010 1 year ago
wow game over!!! dsm for the ftw... 3rd gear was awesome...
aayuuB 1 year ago
thats my buddys car :)
vindianv 1 year ago
@dblock13 you dont have to agree because its a fact for the amount of money you spend on your "muscle" cars if you dump that money into a eclipse or 240 or rx7 an american car wouldnt touch it and you gotta be a block head not to agree
ni48ck87 1 year ago
i strongly agree. i dumped 5k in a 93 5.0 and couldnt do nothing with it cause tuners were still holding up. i spent 1k in my gsx and not only am i outrunnin V8s, i can drive it all year around, even when it snows
LStuned 1 year ago
@ni48ck87 are u stupid?
quadstar90 1 year ago
way to kill that. damn thats fast .
oldblue101rf 1 year ago
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83assassin 1 year ago
american cars are foreign lol all the parts are made in japan lol imports are the best hands down
ni48ck87 1 year ago
@ni48ck87 nope cant agree on that american cars have been doing what imports are doing now.
dbl0ck13 1 year ago
looks like a laser to me
AKHomicide 1 year ago
@AKHomicide thats because a laser,eclipse,talon are all the same thing there all mad buy dimond star motors (dsm) which means they were made in the u.s by a team that included chrysler.
deb91250 1 year ago
@deb91250 No shit, I own a DSM
AKHomicide 1 year ago
Retarded car and very weak launch and pulls. I got one word for you about DSM's "Crankwalk"
FordsAreSuperior 1 year ago
@FordsAreSuperior haha, and fords are the most reliable vehicles ever.
accorded 1 year ago
@FordsAreSuperior well at least owning a DSM you know what can go wrong so you can fix it, with a Ford....you never know why or whats going to break next.
adamslurch71 1 year ago
@adamslurch71 lmao thank you. cuz my family has lots of fords. mainly trucks. u should see the repair bills.. i just ignore the always on CEL.
83assassin 1 year ago
@FordsAreSuperior thats only on one engine, the 4g63. 420a's do not crankwalk jackass know ure facts. and all wheel drive turbo is not retarded. itll spank anything u got.
83assassin 1 year ago
@FordsAreSuperior Asshat, Crankwalk happens to a limited amount of DSM that have a 7 Bolt motor (95-99). And like i said Limited amount of DSM's.
Jtapia031 1 year ago
That's and external wastegate not overboost lol.
getalife04 1 year ago
thats a DSM for you!
freakskater854 1 year ago
that is a laser RS
mEmO4518 1 year ago
if american muscle is so fast then how the hell did that talon tsi just eat american muscle alive??? lol.
DSM POWER!!!!!
samwallabe 1 year ago
just the waste gate... not over boost, no such thing as too much boost, unless youre a pos honda... keep it north american ;)
Rodiak41 1 year ago
turbo ftw!
ElementSlayer 1 year ago
wow yeah its a dsm and yeah its a talon but damn that things fast... now he needs to practice shifting
rickybrockland 1 year ago
what turbo and how much boost list of mods maybe cause damn thats nasty
drifin101 1 year ago
Holy crap!
dmzelda203 1 year ago
its those deadly 4G63'S!!!
stroker383vega 1 year ago
WOW, can you say "sleeper"? Impresive
turbochrisgsx 1 year ago
Omg that's just sick, hopefully I could get my TSI like that one day.
nitrors4pr 1 year ago
i think i just crapped myself
MoparORnoCar95 1 year ago
Nice laser!
Fenix169motox 1 year ago
thats hot shit right there :)
MrSmondelus 2 years ago
What shitty sounding motors...lord, turbos blow! Get a real motor.
MrSinister99 2 years ago
USDM fanboy?
mikeytfot1 2 years ago
Well, perhaps, but I appreciate, and love, many cars, from many nations. It just a fact that these 2 cylinder to 4 cylinder cars just don't have the engine tones too ever sound imposing, or interesting. Oh you can make them fast as shit, no doubt, but they STILL sound like crap. There is not a single import owner that if possible; wouldn't trade in their cars engine notes for those of an American V8, I doubt even one. Not the car mind you, thats personal, but the SOUND? no question!
MrSinister99 2 years ago
Call me crazy.
But I'm just not a fan of the "American V8".
Nor am I a fan of the sound.
The sound is bad ass and all, but I guess I'm just not the muscle kind of guy.
Now I absolutely ADORE the sound of a built 2jz. Hell, I even love the sound of a stock jz.
It creeps a chill up my spine every time.
Every one has their own preferences, and I respect yours. I am just more fond to the sound of an import. They are all unique I guess.
:)
mikeytfot1 2 years ago
@mikeytfot1 hey man thats awesome thats exactly how i feel. Ive had a v8 that sounded sweet thats why i respect them. and ive had honda that sounded amazing too. It really does depend on the person cause i get so much more of a spine chill from an inline 4 with turbo etc.. My favourite sound was the rx7 i had
989brend 2 years ago
See, exactly my point.
We actually had a dirt track car in the shop today with a 383 stroker running open headers. Loud as hell, but It was a beast. I loved the sound of the backfire.
But it still doesn't take the place of imports in my preferences.
mikeytfot1 2 years ago
I really don't people buy cars because their sound. I like the sound of my 2 cars that are 4 cylinders. I think its personal preference... you like your american v8 sound I like my turbo 4 cylinder sound.
lowell123 2 years ago
sounds like your girlfriend when she queefs
brettvett1 2 years ago
man thats too much..God its hevenly
Kenuwine24 2 years ago
just throwing this out there its not a fucking import you fucks it was made on american soil the only thing import aobut it is the name they didnt ship the thing from japan homos now stop bitching and learned to love a car for the car regardless of the make and dis. of the motor who gives a shit if you have a v8 that can beat 4 cyl or vise versa i kno i dont i personally dont like v8s and you know what none of you should really give a shit so shut up about this shit and just give the guy credit
jakeabub92 2 years ago
I'm naked
ms13goku 2 years ago 22
@ms13goku i'm watching
leth1337 1 year ago
@leth1337 upload pic says its a dude...but hey no ones judging you...
DeCyph3red 1 year ago
lmao i shift mine just like that two
coryfirbirdformula 2 years ago
good ol dsm trannies. gotta love the laggard shifting in between insane power.
geemoney3333333 2 years ago 10
That my friend is why we buy dog box transmissions. Most F&F watching ricers dont know what double clutching is....Let alone a dogbox transmission.
Master7770 2 years ago
Talon is an underdog!!!
SuperBeatnuts 2 years ago
dam see wat some money does lol
carcrazee4ever 2 years ago
Its all about money.. Talking about Big blocks and stuff. Screw big blocks. Just get a built v8 twin turbo Firebird or something of that such. Other then that. Its cheaper to build a 4 cyl. whats funny is most v8 people Don't respect the fact that imports are built! Not just bought fast like your average v8. If you were a respectable V8'er you would respect us imports. Vise versa. I respect v8's. But!!! You have to think.. Did this guy go from a na 140 hp eclipse to a 380 on his own?? RESPECT!!!
greeneclipsers 2 years ago
I'm an import guy that respects muscle. They're good on straights, I give them that. Too heavy for much else though, unless it's like a new vette or something, but that doesn't really count as muscle much anymore does it? xP
BanditOMG 2 years ago
RIGHT ON
TIMETOFLYFALCON27X 2 years ago
Surgen general says it's ok to smoke v8s!!!
Origional79s 2 years ago 3
lol good one
iloveallesun 2 years ago
look majority of 4 cylinders make more hp per liter, its a simple fact, but im still forever in love with the raw torque a v8 produces
skylinedestroyer305 2 years ago 2
Why dont everyone stop being a fuckin retard, give your props that the car is fast, and yes American Muscle are fast too, But stop flipping out and wasting comment space on stupid shit.
God damn, when are all you mother fuckers gonna grow up, I get sick of seein this shit on every video I go one.
xfadeld 2 years ago 40
@xfadeld thats what im sayin this mofo below you is a retard
eclipse10101 1 year ago
@xfadeld they are just haters either they cant afford a car like that or just simplicity that they cant even fix a car up like that!!
taggerenkei 1 year ago
you can debate N/A vs boosted all you want at the end of the day, a 2.0 "4 banger" is still smokin V8's. thats 2 or 3 times the motor. man thats gotta suck.
DocHoliday11c 2 years ago 2
Yeah, A BUILT 2.0 vs a STOCK V8. Put that turbo 2.0 against a built N/A 427 & see what happens.
turboz1k 2 years ago
pretty much the same out come. i have a fully built 460 with a 100shot.
and my built 2.0 with a 35r walks on it all day long.
jeff92303 2 years ago 16
@jeff92303 ur full of shit put some videos of you car up then talk shit, your sitting an your room/basement looking on ebay dreaming about those cars you talk about.
eclipse10101 1 year ago
@eclipse10101 why...i don't need to post vids to know what i oun BITCH. and i don't buy e-bay gunk.....mebe you do, mommy buy me a china brand e-16g for car.( thats u)
now with out looking it up. tell me the comp-wheel specs on a 35-82 turbo. (you don't know it)
. how about a bullseye power s-256? see boy. these are things i oun. that you cant buy. cuz your broke. and don't even oun a motor that can handle the power they can make. lil 420a eclipse pussy poser. cant even buy a 4g63.
jeff92303 1 year ago
@jeff92303 and you try to talk shit about looking up specs. wtf does that shit mean, i aint got no nice whip but if i did id be damn sure to have some videos up doin a burnout or something. like fuck buddy i aint beliving your shit
eclipse10101 1 year ago
@eclipse10101 do a burnout or somthing...your a fucking kid.you make a vid tearing your shit up puck. you don't have to believe SHIT. but iam going for a ride in the talon holla at ya poser.
jeff92303 1 year ago
@jeff92303 puck? wtf . whatever you say buddy prove me wrong then show me what you got. prob aint got shit
eclipse10101 1 year ago
@eclipse10101 i'll show u shit.....do a burnout or somthing.
jeff92303 1 year ago
@jeff92303 nice thats what i want to hear
eclipse10101 1 year ago
@jeff92303 Which ones do you have? Each one of those turbos have 2 types.
Also, I have some ebay stuff on my Talon, so do a lot of DSMers for their dailies. Some of these products (Intercoolers mostly) are pretty good for the price, but I would never trust an ebay turbo, that's why we have Extremepsi lol.
As for the 420A eclipse comment, there are A LOT of those cars with potential. Some of them on stock internals with an ebay turbo kit, tuning, other supporting mods have pulled mid 12s.
Londil 1 year ago
@jeff92303 lol you're a 100% tool.
Quit acting like you know what you're talking about.
Bbdrew 1 year ago
That's fine. Put it up against a turbo big block to be fair & eliminate the N/A vs turbo debate. I was just giving the advantage to the 2.0. It's not matching an equally built 1500-2000+HP 7 liter. Obviously it's easier/cheaper to fully build the smaller motor to outrun a less built larger motor than it is to build the larger motor to the same extremes as the smaller 2.0, but if you do build it that way, it wins.
turboz1k 2 years ago
You have forgotten to take in the account,
Power to weight ratio.
Wheel spin.
Overboost.
And not to mention reliability.
You can have a fast fully built turbo 427 all day.
but putting that beast on the line is another story.
The torque in a 427t would shatter the drive line the second its launched unless its replaced. and even then you still can't be sure that it wont shatter.
let alone all the other things that could happen.
But on paper, 427turbo all the way.
mikeytfot1 2 years ago
@mikeytfot1 , I don't know, that 2300HP F.I. N/A 892ci built by Nelson, that's been running a whole year hasn't broken any shafts., it's equal or better than a built turbo 427, & twice as big. It hooks & launches without smoking the wheels most of the time, obviously it doesn't hook sometimes. On the street it's obviously screwed for traction, but even at that, it's still a 6 sec willy's coupe, & a street legal car at that. Don't get me wrong, I understand what your saying about breaking shafts
turboz1k 2 years ago
Yeah because it's been built to handle it. I'm just talking about dropping a 427t straight into a car without and other mods and thinking someone is going to whip some ass.
lol
And yeahh. I have broken a few myself. not so fun when you try to hook in 3rd, in a 300zx that spins through 4th, while running the track. It's scaryyyy.
But, not as scary as the hood not being latched completely and it flies up and smashes your windshield on the highway.
;b
mikeytfot1 2 years ago
@mikeytfot1 , That hood thing would SUCK.... Atleast it's a good story to tell though.
turboz1k 2 years ago
Yeaah, and I had my uncles two kids in the back. they were 3 and 5 I think at the time.
It was horrible. But the 5yr old liked it. He said "Whoa! that was just like that DiRT game!"
lmao
mikeytfot1 2 years ago
Hey guys I read your things an some are up n some are down . American this japan that . I have a front wheel drive dodge omni I know haha but the little mother fucker does low tens an I make all the corvetts an gto's sick to their stomach all wheel drive it's a myth om not sayin nothin bad but rember nomatter how bad you are their is someone badder .proud to be n race American .
Origional79s 2 years ago 2
v10viper04 your camero v8 fails..your not in the same ballpark..see we have fast cars lol All of us DSM boys and girls drive 4cyl turbos. and we dont really care what u think...haha with a good turbo and high boost. 18-22psi.. we make well over 380hp.we can out run most v8s its ok. thats what we do. i hope you understand what im trying to say. is you fail... "what maybe hes going to try to school me on his next post" hahah fail...
Robbjung88 2 years ago
and to all you shitt heads out there that call talons a ricer go shove a dildo up your dick hole.
talons are just as american as a gay ford or any thing else. its made it illinois.
same company that makes jeeps.
so no ricer. nice try
dsm for life
cunundrum19 2 years ago 3
You say Talon is American as i agree, eagle was owned by Chysler BUT you state at the end "DSM for life" Weird how the Talon is technically NOT a DSM..... Dumbass rice pussy. hahaha
v10viper04 2 years ago
how the fuck is it not a dsm?
haha wow
its a join in two companies mitsubishi and chrysler. both have diamond stars in their emblem.
hince the name diamond stars motors!
wow dumbass hahahahah
cunundrum19 2 years ago
I'm sure dipshit, really? you think so? That's why the EAGLE logo has an EAGLE in it? Fuckin moron, there is no star in the logo moron, only on the eclipses. Also DSM is Mitsubishi NOT chysler! Sure they may has used to same engines but AGAIN its NOT technically a DSM... ask any DSM owner, my friend drives a Talon TSi and he agrees with me. Your a fucking moron. Seriously STFU before I own you anymore... Fuckin rice pussy.
v10viper04 2 years ago
but who the fucks makes eagle??????
ohhhh chrysler!!!!
hahaha faggot
if there is any one else on youtube that isnt a stupid ass dick licker and thinks that a eagle talon tsi awd is not a dsm please post a comment!!!!
and go look it up faggot. dsm is both mitsubishi and chrysler. dude go look. google it. you truely are the dumbest person ever ahahahaha
cunundrum19 2 years ago
WOW! You just made yourself look even dumber than you already were! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Yea no shit the talon is a Chrysler but a DSM is a MITSUBISHI!!! Weird how that works huh? You rice pussies make me laugh, inbred dipshits..... get rid of your tinker toy and buy a real car..... that can ACTUALLY make power. Fuckin loser.
v10viper04 2 years ago
any talon, laser, eclipes made from 1990 to 1998 is a dsm.
hahaha here you go buddy
Diamond-Star Motors (commonly abbreviated to DSM) was an automobile-manufacturing joint venture between the Chrysler Corporation and Mitsubishi Motors Corporation (MMC).[1] The name came from the parent companies' respective logos: three diamonds (Mitsubishi) and a pentastar (Chrysler)
shove a dick up your ass.
and inbred? it seems to me that rednecks like you are the inbred ones hahaha
cunundrum19 2 years ago 2
Good one! Can't make up your own diss? O that's right your too retarded to think of anything new. And shove a dick up my ass? You got a fantasy running through your head fag?
v10viper04 2 years ago
hmmm seems to me that you droped the dsm part???
so i was correct. as usuall. and your just butt hurt about it. its okay buddy. sometimes you just gotta take it like a man. hahaahah you act like a child.
this convo is over!!!
winna winna chicken dinna!!!!
cunundrum19 2 years ago 2
Your a dumbass basically, no i didn't drop the DSM part. I still refuse to believe that a Chrysler IS a Mitsubishi....(Which you are claiming) As far as i'm concerned your the butthurt one calling in your buddy to help you out lol. All you rice pussies run and mate within your herd of dipshits. Also who drives the slow/unreliable DSM?...... You... Sorry man, you have to hear it though.
v10viper04 2 years ago
you are changing your story!!!! haha
when did i ever say that chyrsler is a mitsubishi?
like all my post say, chrysler and mitsubishi had a joint venture between the two companies.
the world could really do without people like you.
faggg
cunundrum19 2 years ago 3
I'm changing my story? Nah man, more like your changing yours to make it look like you didn't get owned. Fucking pussy..... bahaha!!!
v10viper04 2 years ago
"winna winna chicken dinna!!!! " More like your 12 yrs old. Fuckin faggot. Did you really say that? That is the STUPIDEST thing i have EVER heard. All your rice pussies are such faggots! BAHAHA!!
v10viper04 2 years ago
what a douche ass dumbass homo.
racingchamp101 2 years ago
What are you like 5? go home rice pussy...
v10viper04 2 years ago
'shove a dick up my ass'? some fantasy you have...
asnman4456 2 years ago 3
Plymouth Lasers, Eagle Talons, and Mitsubishi Eclipses were all DSM's
Weazell 2 years ago
I drive a Jeep that means i have a ricer too :P
2002TJSport 2 years ago
Owned
eLpeach 2 years ago
Lol at the Viper guy for Being So butt hurt. DSM 4 Life!
m0053m4n 2 years ago 2
why do ppl want to fight if the tranny in a dsm is weak or not. im not hating on the car at all i love dsm's i wont own one again unless its a weekend car because out of the 5 i had all but 1 fucked up all the time but i love them.
classoo7 2 years ago
lol i guess none of you know anything about dsm's. they have weak trannys. this guy might have a stock tranny.
classoo7 2 years ago
i hear ya man! i put a shep tranny in mine about year and a half ago best thing I ever did
lancerevoMD 2 years ago
which is why it takes him so long to get into gear.. a friend of mine has the same problem and needs a new tranny.. either the VR4 tranny or the shep.
cman2585 2 years ago
Lol, you obviously know nothing about dsm's. Their trannies are very strong, they will take up to 400ft/lbs of torque. I have proved that time and time again. I build my own race transmissions for these cars. I own a 9 second talon.
tsiturbomightym 2 years ago
lol ok you cant really say you build your own race tranny and then tell me how strong the tranny is. and yes dsm trannys are weak. unless maybe you upgraded the syncro;s and what not and still want to call it stock..or wait when you bought a used tranny and swaped it in maybe you thought it was stock but i bet its not.sorry you fail everyone knows how weak they are,well the syncro's are weak the gear its self is ok.but sorry im not so sure i think you have a 9sec talon and didnt know they break
classoo7 2 years ago
You are such a lieing sack of shit. You have never had a solid built car. Not our fault you can't keep a car together. I build trannys because I have over 900hp in my car. A stock dsm tranny will take 400ft/lbs all day. That is in no way weak. So they will take 500hp about. Learn some shit before you speak again.
tsiturbomightym 2 years ago
ummm ok, well considering we are talking about a stock dsm tranny i thought you would be smart enough to know we arnt talking about me haveing a solid "built" car...we are talking about stock cars with bolt ons,wow i didnt know some one could be so stupid.and i said out of the 5 i had 1 didnt break and that one was built,all others had the same parts when one broke i moved it to a diff car.but it had gt35 turbo supporting fuel,sheet metal intake mani 35+psi on meth inj.just to name a few things
classoo7 2 years ago
I was talking about having a solid built stock car, if they are hacked together like most are because arrogant people that think they can build a car get ahold of them they will break and fall apart. As for me being stupid when it comes to DSM's you might wanna remember I build these trannies for a living and buy and sell these cars all day long. I am no noobie to these cars. I have a 900HP 9 second talon and a 600hp DD. Please don't try and reply back with some other idiotic response.
tsiturbomightym 2 years ago
thats why you buy mustangs and not camaros. thats a v8 camaro weak is shit.
TravisCadello 2 years ago
Lol, mustangs are slow as fuck. A stock dsm will beat a v8 mustang.
tsiturbomightym 2 years ago
ahhh hahahha. don't make me laugh.
TravisCadello 2 years ago
Well laugh it up, your a fag. V8's are slow and a DSM will beat them any day any time. Don't be stupid look up stock 1/4 mile times. You will be shocked at how slow your precious gas guzzling V8's are.
tsiturbomightym 2 years ago
you are the dam arrogant one you fight with me about the fact that they break or not. and then you fight with this guy saying that v8's are slow... i love imports and im not the biggest fan of v8's but its a bigger motor and mod for mod they pretty much should win. yes you spend more to get a v8 and they weigh more but if built right they can be fast, any car can be fast i have seen a mini van run a mid 10, so shut up about whos car can be faster just find out who has more money and they win lol
classoo7 2 years ago 2
Well if it is money than that would most likely be me. I am not fighting with you it is the other way around. You think they break all the time and in the 6 years I have had my 91 AWD the only thing that has broken is the remanufactured alternator that came with it. I swapped in a OEM one and have never had a problem with it. Same goes for my 95 but the rear O2 sensor crapped out. Now I will be the more mature person and leave this "argument" at that.
tsiturbomightym 2 years ago
so what all is done to your 95?
classoo7 2 years ago
Hard blocked, JE 10:1 pistons, Carillo rods, O-ringed block, Eagle crank knife edged and balanced, PTT twin disk, GT42R, HKS 288's, ferrera valves, SI dual springs, My own race tranny, AEM EMS, tubed front end, DSS driveshaft, DSS stage 5 front axles, level 5 rear axle/hub kit, Aeromotive eliminator Fuel pump, dual banked 1600cc injectors, bunch of other random supporting mods, and 50+ PSI!!
tsiturbomightym 2 years ago
Wrong, I smoke my friends Eclipse all day long! he ran a 14.9 stock, thats shit! HAHAHAHA My camaro walks my other friend with a Talon with a built motor and 18g Turbo. STFU your an idiot. Lets compare N/A to N/A and Boosted to boosted. Dipshit.
v10viper04 2 years ago
HAHAH your a fucking retard, a stock DSM will never beat a camaro, when my car was mostly stock, 14b, fuel upgrades, exhaust, intake, and a boost controller I beat my buddies LS1 camaro by at least .5 seconds in the 1/4. You know nothing about DSM's. They are the worlds fastest 4 cylinder and the worlds fastest full wieght AWD car at a 7.9 second, hes going for low 7's or 6's next season.
tsiturbomightym 2 years ago
YOur an idiot.... Stock DSM's run high 14's stock, Mid-Low 14 at their VERY VERY BEST. LS1's run mid 13's shitbag. 240hp stock vs 325hp... wonder which one will win? hmmm... your a fuckin moron. What was the 1/4 mile run that you beat your buddy by .4? Because i'm pretty sure your full of shit. Idiot.... Learn the facts before opening your dickhole.
v10viper04