Lesson proposed by TRAN QUANG HAI for learning throat singing

[sirlaugholot]

Thank you, from my family. My wife has a mongolan herritage, and my sons carry the mark as proof. I want them to have a deep rich herritage. Not to mention tallent.

[LycanRace]

thank you very much for sharing your wisdom with us! your exercise is simple, good to understand and i'm sure, with more pracitse and your technique, i'll get the hang of it soon, 'cause it's really fun to practise when you see good results so quickly! thanks again, you're awesome! =)

[metalphilic]

I just tried this myself and it worked! I'm starting to get the hang of it! Thank you for posting! :)

[BedBugAcres]

I enjoy coming back now and then to rewatch a true master share his art so graciously and effectively. This is what the overtone singing world should be like, and the way it generally is.

[argntinito]

kargyraa1, thanks for posting, and do not worrie about BedBugAcres, his ego is too hight, but time will change that

[kargyraa1]

Don't miss his kargyraa lessons too..! ;)

It's easier to follow the big flow..but i prefer to walk alone studying and practicing since last 15 yrs and telling my opinions ,honestly.

u can't imagine how many people like you..pfff..and how many changed their ideas..

If i had to stop for comments like yours..ah ah..i've already stop 10 yrs ago :)))

i repeat, follow this teachings. I don't care ;)

Humility .....

[BedBugAcres]

No one asked you to stop studying throat singing. It would however be a good idea to stop trashing other people when you are the one who doesn't understand the difference between how something is produced and WHAT is produced. When you come on so aggressively towards others only to be such a bonehead in a public forum about such truly elementary matters, don't act all surprised when people give you multiple thumbs down. You've racked up a lot of red ink on this page alone!

[mumazuma]

Thank you very much, Master...I am going to practice this technique....seems gentle and a good foundation.

[kargyraa1]

THIS IS NOT THROAT SINGING!

[EljeiOglanya]

Of course it is.

[BedBugAcres]

Purism generally sucks, and yours is no exception. I use the terms 'harmonic chant' and 'overtone singing' as general terms and perhaps this guy should too. He is without question producing interesting overtones. The fact that he's doing it somewhat differently than the Tuvanese do is of minor significance at most. And I note that when I attended a Chirgilchin throat singing workshop, these very gracious and welcoming masters of the craft greeted us all as fellow throat singers.

[kargyraa1]

@BedBugAcres Mine it's not purism, but deep knowledge. The fact you spoke that he produce interesting overtones shows me how much you are involved into throat singing ; may be u must know that terms like overtone singing or harmonic chant ( David hykes is the real master who has develope and give this name to this technique,a very good teacher also) don't match nothing with throat singing ; different resonators, breath tech , intention and emission of sounds.

Btw learn from those tutorial ;)

[BedBugAcres]

No, you're the idiot. ALL these styles produce overtones. Yes, there are different techniques in producing them, but in the end the sounds heard are indeed overtones. Don't worry. Graceless arrogance ("deep knowledge" - ha!) and ignorance typically go hand in hand. You're nothing special.

[kargyraa1]

I never been offensive anyway...is this the big grace you have? Very nice!

When you'll achieve enough knowledge concerning throat singing u'll realize everything by urself.

I didn't speak about what u hear, but about resonators, breathing, intentions and emittions ; too much for you, i've realize that ;)

Learn from this great master, u'll surely be a great overtone singer!

At last i don't care anything, i've only tried to help someone, showing a different (right) approach.

Peace grace man ;)

[BedBugAcres]

You've offended several people. You can tell by the comments. At least, you COULD if you had any social skills, which you apparently don't. And you miss the point about what overtone or harmonic singing is. Yes, you only spoke about resonators, breathing, "intentions" (whatever you mean by that!) and emissions. But you did so precisely BECAUSE you don't understand that the one thing that links everything from Bollman to Ondar is that all styles amplify harmonics to produce overtones.

[BedBugAcres]

It is BECAUSE everything from western styles to Tuvanese throat singing involves the amplification of harmonics to produce overtones that I suggested that sterile debate might possibly be avoided if everyone used harmonic chanting or singing or overtone chanting or singing as the generic term. There's nothing "throaty" about some styles, but ALL styles amplify harmonics to produce overtones. But you in your puristic pinheadedness insist on applying these terms only to people who already use

[BedBugAcres]

... who already use them. Intellectually, you are a classic case of missing the forest for the trees. Socially, you are the first and so far only person I've met in the community who is thoroughly ungracious, crudely judgmental and generally annoying. That is, you are an annoyance to those choose to hammer, but worse, you're no doubt an embarrassment to those in whose style's name you do all this bashing. Time to cut your losses and learn to sit still and be quiet while others teach and learn.

[mmmshody]

Oh excellent, thanks for the lesson!

[hott85]

thank you very much, I'll go practice now!

[columbusgypsy]

You are the best!

[furrytummy]

Very clear... Simple to understand.

[kargyraa1]

@furrytummy but COMPLETELY WRONG..

[furrytummy]

@kargyraa1 : I think there's something wrong with you, maybe. This are basics lessons for people trying to throat sing the first time, and these are very good ways to start.

[kargyraa1]

@furrytummy I answer ; first, nothing wrong to me, when u have knowledge about throat singing as mine we'll can speak.

Second; these are one cavity overtones as western has developed ( David Hykes is the pioneer ).

Third ; check anywhere on the net, and u realize by urself that these aren't right basics ( u have to start from U connecting it with L sound.. )

Fourth ; throat singing is called like that 'cause sounds are modulate with larinx farinx tongue and lips movement.

Believe in this..up 2 u

[kargyraa1]

@furrytummy More...u have to know that this "master" has delete a ( COMPLETELY WRONG ) tutorial (ABOUT KARGYRAA STYLE ) after my technical comments ( before he deleted my comments 3 times )...VERY GOOD ;)

Believe in his teachings.

[BedBugAcres]

You are totally missing the point. There are many ways to produce overtones and I have found that the TRUE masters of overtone singing, both east and west, to be among the most gracious and supportive people I have ever met. I have a style inspired by but far from identical to Tuvanese style and no one whose opinion matters has ever been anything but encouraging. I don't know what your agenda is, but you bring an ugly attitude into the community that is truly regrettable.

[kargyraa1]

@BedBugAcres I don't have any ugly attitude , trust me ; i simply don't accept people that travel around the world teaching wrong things, this is the point. I've studied with this man, that's why i can speak ; he pretend to teach mongolian or tuvan throat singing, but he doesn't! As for kargyraa style ; he deleted his tutorial video after my comments..'cause he knows he can't teach and sing in the right way.

The community deserve to know the truth, many teachers and performers think like me ;)

[divinenathanica]

Thank you. :]