brassmonkeyjew - no. take a look at him looking at the camera prior to beginning the octaves. there's a reason why rach. thought h. had the greatest octaves ever.
he was probably wanting to get the go-ahead signal, though in another silent movie from a u.s. private house in the 1920s - have you seen it? - he looks at the camera a lot, obviously very aware of the limelight.
it was sent to me many years ago by horowitz's discographer, and i transfered it to the net from the old vhs tape. it's available from other sources too.
Thnx for sharing this!!! This footage is definitely a treasure. Just curious... by looking in this footage, is horowitz using his wrist to do the octaves or is it his arm action???
He is using a bouncing motion with his forearm. The wrist is merely a rebound and maintains a high position to act a fulcrum. You'll notice that a top speed it is impossible to play octaves with so called "finger legato" there is a clear drop on every octave.
i do have a video of him playing these etudes in japan in 1983 when he was severely debilitated by alcohol and prescription medication. i'm conflicted about putting it up but i just might, for history's sake.
schonberg was in a position to know. there are also signs of image rehabilitation after the tokyo disaster in press comments: "horowitz does not drink and does not take pills." why deny the truth? it makes horowitz's resurrection all the more impressive.
have you heard the recordings from his 1983 concerts of the octave etude? even as messed up as he was on medication, the recording from the met concert is terrifying.
it's truly my pleasure - i've had these clips so long (thanks to a generous friend many years ago) and it's only right that they can be preserved and others can see them too!
the piece from the biginning is not chopin etude op.10 no.1 ?
ClaudiuPiano 6 months ago
@ClaudiuPiano - no, opus 10 no 8 - f major.
kasyapa 6 months ago
betcha cant play this
legoagent9115 9 months ago
I wonder if the piece at the start is Op. 10 No. 1.
LordCalvinHastings 1 year ago
LordCalvinHastings - it's the f maj op 10.
kasyapa 1 year ago
@kasyapa Yes. The No.8 op.10 :-)
michelmans 1 year ago
1:05 :This must be sped up!
Right?
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
brassmonkeyjew - no. take a look at him looking at the camera prior to beginning the octaves. there's a reason why rach. thought h. had the greatest octaves ever.
kasyapa 1 year ago
damn, even silent horowitz sound like the devil.........i want those hands now!!!!!!!!!!
kaleidoscopio2006 2 years ago 2
have you heard the audio recording i have up of him playing this piece?
kasyapa 2 years ago
@kasyapa What was the piece?
h1hacter 1 year ago
h1hacter - the "octave" etude. 1983.
kasyapa 1 year ago
@kasyapa Thanks for telling me the piece. Um, this doesn't seem like it's taken in 1983. More like the 1920s or so.
h1hacter 1 year ago
h1hacter - that's correct. the silent film is from 1926 - the separate audio is from 1983.
kasyapa 1 year ago
Not to mention the octaves... wow.
BenMcCormack91 2 years ago
check my channel - i have an audience recording of him from 1983 doing the "octave" that really defies belief.
kasyapa 2 years ago
Wow, he's really taking that first etude at a vicious tempo. But knowing him, it probably had plenty of nuance to it anyway...
I guess I'll have to settle for the perfectly-good performances by Ashkenazy and Argerich of that one.
BenMcCormack91 2 years ago
see above - you can hear him play it 55 years later. :)
kasyapa 2 years ago
at 1:03 horowitz looks at you and is just like...."yeah, check this shit out"
heidegger1243 2 years ago 6
* laugh *
he was probably wanting to get the go-ahead signal, though in another silent movie from a u.s. private house in the 1920s - have you seen it? - he looks at the camera a lot, obviously very aware of the limelight.
kasyapa 2 years ago
Wow that was hypnotic... now i think i'm an onion...
razers1 2 years ago 2
the power of horowitz ...
kasyapa 2 years ago
i am with you.
kasyapa 2 years ago
Fantastic!!! Where did you find the video??
maxbigazzi 2 years ago
it was sent to me many years ago by horowitz's discographer, and i transfered it to the net from the old vhs tape. it's available from other sources too.
kasyapa 2 years ago
Wow. The music moved me to tears. :)
GravesGuitars 2 years ago
zen!
kasyapa 2 years ago
WOOOOOOOW
Did Rachmaninov watch this???
ClassicalH 2 years ago
who knows? there are many mysteries of the old masters.
kasyapa 2 years ago
His techique is really different. Look how high his fingers are flying... jeesh
nosniborceda 2 years ago
i think he probably tightened it up with time. the velocity of the non-slowed-down film is unbelievable.
kasyapa 2 years ago
looks like a tiger running in slow motion
ElgnubRm 3 years ago
beautifully put.
kasyapa 3 years ago
Is the first etude op. 10 n. 1?
dpkaiser 3 years ago
no, the op 10 no 8 in f major, then the "octave" etude op 25 no 10.
kasyapa 3 years ago
Ok, thank you very much. The second one is very recognisable.
dpkaiser 3 years ago
my pleasure!
kasyapa 3 years ago
oh, that's why it was called a "silent movie" :)but it will be better if there's sound :)
eunicefzurc 4 years ago
i agree. there are recordings of him doing the "octave" etude in his troubled 1983 tour - still astonishing.
kasyapa 4 years ago
first time I see the young and beautiful hands from Horowitz. Normally you see the old hands.. very special video THANKS FOR POSTING!
Hiddejan 4 years ago
you are very welcome - if only there were sound, and much more of his playing!
kasyapa 4 years ago
what is the point of waching this if you cant hear anything???????
fatcatrocky 4 years ago
this is an historic document - earliest known film of a man who had one of the great piano techniques of all time.
kasyapa 4 years ago
Thnx for sharing this!!! This footage is definitely a treasure. Just curious... by looking in this footage, is horowitz using his wrist to do the octaves or is it his arm action???
nightblade37 4 years ago
i think it's the arm action because if you use wrist when playing octaves you can fail
ieronim2003 4 years ago
He is using a bouncing motion with his forearm. The wrist is merely a rebound and maintains a high position to act a fulcrum. You'll notice that a top speed it is impossible to play octaves with so called "finger legato" there is a clear drop on every octave.
bsmusicd 4 years ago 2
Tanx 4 da info! ;)
nightblade37 4 years ago
yes but he have studied the legato whit blumenfed by using the middle pedal.
volodya2 4 years ago
whoa, crazy!
OorvakanSar 4 years ago
glad you liked. am looking for more offbeat horowitz and nyiregyhazi videos to put up before long.
kasyapa 4 years ago
Great video to prove his outstanding performance in his 20's.
toshigretchen 4 years ago
i do have a video of him playing these etudes in japan in 1983 when he was severely debilitated by alcohol and prescription medication. i'm conflicted about putting it up but i just might, for history's sake.
kasyapa 4 years ago
By the way Horowitz never drank alcohol excessively. However it is true that he was over medicated at the time.
Modi88best 4 years ago
actually he was drinking too much at the time and in conjunction with anti-depressants. see schonberg's biography.
kasyapa 4 years ago
i'd guess a sophisticated combination.
kasyapa 4 years ago
he was on anti-depressants - NOT alcohol
John19182004 4 years ago
yes, he was drinking too - it's in harold schonberg's biographya: a big glass of campari and soda was his preferred tipple.
kasyapa 4 years ago
yeah you can take that bio and stick it somewhere.. dont believe all you read!
John19182004 4 years ago
schonberg was in a position to know. there are also signs of image rehabilitation after the tokyo disaster in press comments: "horowitz does not drink and does not take pills." why deny the truth? it makes horowitz's resurrection all the more impressive.
kasyapa 4 years ago
Free information to the world. Put it up for history's sake!
MalibooBarbie 4 years ago
that's my plan. :)
kasyapa 4 years ago
the internet owns. thank you youtube and kasyapa!
jsthorne24 4 years ago
more to come. thank you!
kasyapa 4 years ago
Those octaves!!!
HandsomeWJL 4 years ago
have you heard the recordings from his 1983 concerts of the octave etude? even as messed up as he was on medication, the recording from the met concert is terrifying.
kasyapa 4 years ago
The keys bounce up and down like water in slo mo.
NeoMalikov 4 years ago
well-observed. i'd felt the same thing without the words - fluent flow.
kasyapa 4 years ago
Thanks for your efforts. They are hugely appreciated!
alkanlover 4 years ago
it's truly my pleasure - i've had these clips so long (thanks to a generous friend many years ago) and it's only right that they can be preserved and others can see them too!
kasyapa 4 years ago
oh awesome! I've always wanted to see this complete video! wonderful fingers he has!
ivrykeys 4 years ago
now if only the sound was a little bit better. :)
kasyapa 4 years ago
Thanks for uploading both of them! (opus 10 nr. 8 and opus 25 nr. 10)
Pianowrestler 4 years ago
my pleasure. i'm very concerned with the deterioration of cultural resources, especially obscure or live-filmed/taped media.
kasyapa 4 years ago