Shawn Hartnell (don't know if that's the correct spelling) had some GREAT videos, but sadly he closed his account. Sadly when I went to review them (quite a few months ago) they were gone. Same thing with a user called hatesfury8.
Funny, I was just talking about this today. When Satanists reject any kind of networking or unification - what they really mean is, "I'm not in your band camp" but in reality, they are in someone's camp. We can unify and be different, have our own ideas, goals, etc. I ask that question all the time, and get no real answers. What are people on the LHP striving towards exactly? Is there strength in numbers, can we reach it that much sooner as one legion vs. a mass of 'individuals'?
And I do agree, when we network we are getting there that much sooner. You have something you need? I may be able to provide it, I have connections. You have connections too? Great! Let's network! It's really not a difficult model to follow. I see it everyday on the web, all these familiar 'Satanic faces' networked together. All the while claiming they are independent. Pffft, you have support. That support often includes obligations. Those obligations...
may not be something you want to have yourself tied up with, but for the sake of reaching your end goals you make compromises. If the compromises are manageable, great - keep yourself honest. If those compromises take you so far from what you want, and who you are? Jump out of that band camp.
@alisonleejones I am not opposed to coordination leading to the formation of cabals. Coordinating efforts with like-minded individuals only makes sense. Placing a structure, hierarchy, and systems over Satanism as a whole... not freaking likely!
I agree, attempting to structure Satan will be faced with opposition and rightfully so. I don't see this being done in general, but I do see small cabals attempting to organize their own belief structure into something that can inspire others. In terms of the 'hierarchy', perhaps its the Elitists who lead by example, and do not rely on their puffery to lead a flock to the slaughter.
great video. Satanism however has died ever since Lavey. (la veyan satnism) Satanism is all about your morals and your perspective of how you would like your universe to be. So many of today's Satanists are however very insulting and do not respect the structure they think is most pleasurable to other Satanists.....although Satanists are not generally compassionate in nature.
There's obsession with structure and human feces does have structure yet some forms of structure are-not loved by the structure obsessed, when people only list Satanism as dirty I thought to question what kind of structure Satanism must have. This video does explain about the importance of Structure inside of Satanism and it doesn't involve flushable-scat.
Interesting points. But if you have a group with similar direction and focus, hierarchy and structure will happen automatically though merit. Those who are good at leadership will lead. If they suck someone else will replace them. And people who are good at other things do other things. You cannot force these things, and I think it's inadvisable even if people want to me led.
Structures and hierarchy will form automatically when it's needed. No need to have this in place beforehand, IMHO.
Well I am creating a group with the single goal to performing the Satanic Mass 1968 - the group would come together to acheive this single goal, then its 'bye-bye, have a nice life' - that way the group does not become a mind control cult; unless, as you say, some people want to be controlled - I doubt many people consciously want that, they kind of drift into being controlled.
Great video, Master Diabolus. I just made this a favorite as well. Yes, it's about time we really focused on goals... Left Hand Path goals which will create a need to unify, in my opinion.
Power is the root, everything branches out from there. Just sent you and Master Xeno an outline for LHP goals and how to meet them according to my perspective. Let me know your thoughts, brother.
it's hard finding real satanists
insaneclown15 6 months ago
Shawn Hartnell (don't know if that's the correct spelling) had some GREAT videos, but sadly he closed his account. Sadly when I went to review them (quite a few months ago) they were gone. Same thing with a user called hatesfury8.
ZombieCobain 7 months ago
@ZombieCobain Shawn had some great videos. Now he is a Priest of R'lyeh for the Cult of Cthulhu... yep, my old gig.
egodiabolus666 7 months ago
Funny, I was just talking about this today. When Satanists reject any kind of networking or unification - what they really mean is, "I'm not in your band camp" but in reality, they are in someone's camp. We can unify and be different, have our own ideas, goals, etc. I ask that question all the time, and get no real answers. What are people on the LHP striving towards exactly? Is there strength in numbers, can we reach it that much sooner as one legion vs. a mass of 'individuals'?
alisonleejones 10 months ago
@alisonleejones
And I do agree, when we network we are getting there that much sooner. You have something you need? I may be able to provide it, I have connections. You have connections too? Great! Let's network! It's really not a difficult model to follow. I see it everyday on the web, all these familiar 'Satanic faces' networked together. All the while claiming they are independent. Pffft, you have support. That support often includes obligations. Those obligations...
alisonleejones 10 months ago
@alisonleejones
may not be something you want to have yourself tied up with, but for the sake of reaching your end goals you make compromises. If the compromises are manageable, great - keep yourself honest. If those compromises take you so far from what you want, and who you are? Jump out of that band camp.
alisonleejones 10 months ago
@alisonleejones I am not opposed to coordination leading to the formation of cabals. Coordinating efforts with like-minded individuals only makes sense. Placing a structure, hierarchy, and systems over Satanism as a whole... not freaking likely!
egodiabolus666 10 months ago
@egodiabolus666
I agree, attempting to structure Satan will be faced with opposition and rightfully so. I don't see this being done in general, but I do see small cabals attempting to organize their own belief structure into something that can inspire others. In terms of the 'hierarchy', perhaps its the Elitists who lead by example, and do not rely on their puffery to lead a flock to the slaughter.
alisonleejones 10 months ago
@egodiabolus666
Agreed, and I don't believe the purpose of the grotto program has ever been to create hierarchy.
alisonleejones 10 months ago
great video. Satanism however has died ever since Lavey. (la veyan satnism) Satanism is all about your morals and your perspective of how you would like your universe to be. So many of today's Satanists are however very insulting and do not respect the structure they think is most pleasurable to other Satanists.....although Satanists are not generally compassionate in nature.
videodesignerz 1 year ago
As a Luciferian the only laws i obey are that of the state im in at the moment... lol... JK... Good Video...
skrdeciple666 1 year ago
There's obsession with structure and human feces does have structure yet some forms of structure are-not loved by the structure obsessed, when people only list Satanism as dirty I thought to question what kind of structure Satanism must have. This video does explain about the importance of Structure inside of Satanism and it doesn't involve flushable-scat.
brentpieczynski 1 year ago
Beat a dead horse why don't you........
SATANECRONOMICUS 1 year ago
@SATANECRONOMICUS comment on the beating of a dead horse why don't you...
egodiabolus666 1 year ago
@egodiabolus666 im sorry i forgot that you're five years old and a pseduo-satanist.
SATANECRONOMICUS 1 year ago
@SATANECRONOMICUS You've nailed it on the head. Thanks for commenting.
egodiabolus666 1 year ago
Like the video.
Anything that enslaves = BAD
One goal is Satanists through their individual efforts should counter the false propoganda of the media, the Christians and Holywood.
The only publicity that Satanists get is if some criminal, crazy guy commits murder and declares they are a "Satanist".
We know what Satanism really is about, so lets get that message out.
This needs no coordination or organised structure.
mabon2010 1 year ago
Interesting points. But if you have a group with similar direction and focus, hierarchy and structure will happen automatically though merit. Those who are good at leadership will lead. If they suck someone else will replace them. And people who are good at other things do other things. You cannot force these things, and I think it's inadvisable even if people want to me led.
Structures and hierarchy will form automatically when it's needed. No need to have this in place beforehand, IMHO.
coolvibe1975 1 year ago
Agreed. It is hard but the ideal is for each individual Satanist to create their own rules and "structures".
mabon2010 1 year ago
@mabon2010
Any functioning society needs rules and structure, but a LHP society will ensure personal liberty and individual aesthetics.
TheIchor 1 year ago
Well I am creating a group with the single goal to performing the Satanic Mass 1968 - the group would come together to acheive this single goal, then its 'bye-bye, have a nice life' - that way the group does not become a mind control cult; unless, as you say, some people want to be controlled - I doubt many people consciously want that, they kind of drift into being controlled.
nargargole 1 year ago
Great video, Master Diabolus. I just made this a favorite as well. Yes, it's about time we really focused on goals... Left Hand Path goals which will create a need to unify, in my opinion.
Power is the root, everything branches out from there. Just sent you and Master Xeno an outline for LHP goals and how to meet them according to my perspective. Let me know your thoughts, brother.
ia ia Cthulhu fhtagn!
TheIchor 1 year ago
Damn good video. My response pending.
DarkF00L 1 year ago
Great video Jason!
DarkPrismOfficial 1 year ago
In a cage match between Diabolus and Gilmore, who do you think would win? :)
shawnhartnell 1 year ago
well spoken and true
satanicinternational 1 year ago
J-
You are right there needs to be more discussion about the goals... maybe next weeks The Ooze? I'm thinking so.
Great Video! I favorited and am going to feature it on my channel. I think anyone who agrees with this will follow suit.!!
- T
beastxeno 1 year ago
cool video \m/
impulsetospit 1 year ago
As always, well stated Ego.
jason666king 1 year ago