CISF REVIEWS: SYSTEMA PTW M4A1 MAX part 3 of 3

[frackz]

should do a maintenance video !

[TheBailey26]

Fucking fingers were annoying the shit outta me, I've got the systema max2 m4a1 they are worth the money guys. Crazy range!!!!

[TheGrahamAker]

I love how ur credit has only one person.

[CH4ZZA123]

Did that frontend (handguard) come standerd on the gun?



[andreasyoman]

i guess that foregrip reduces the heavy recoil eh?

[iNoFears]

What the hell is wrong with your finger.

[calebjacome]

i just received my super max last night,all i can say is awesome!!!!!!!

[ohyeaimaboss]

haha watch the credits

[pianosfun]

Everyone be quiet about him taking his finger off of the trigger. He's demonstrating the trigger response of the PTW. Besides, most people complaining probably don't own PTW's. (And I didn't reply to anyone in order to not start an argument :D) So if someone angrily states that they own a PTW or real AR15 to this comment, they're the instigator, Lol.

But seriously, thanks RoyalAirsoft for the review of the gun.

[SharpAirsoft]

I dont like how you shoot. Just bear down and show us the REAL rate of fire. not just a burst.

[ps3gamefreakr]

wasted ur money could have got a real ar15.......let a real gun do the work not no airsoft crap

[Cheatman5]

@ps3gamefreakr i agree with you totally, that stupid gun doesnt even have basic standard functionality to it and its 2000 dollars. like you said, you could buy the real one or if you wanted to play airsoft you could get a KWA which is just as good if not better for 1500 dollars less.

[meany1023]

@ChefPepperoni dude opts around 2000$

[lilbignoob]

Can you do damage with this? Like put a silencer on and go kill somebody with shots to the throat? Thats what i always wanted to know lmao

[GlenXD]

@lilbignoob If you shoot someone in the eye they will die instantly thats why you wear goggles.

[atal0071]

he shoots like he is scared to hold the trigger longer than 1 second :D

[ChefPepperoni]

so how are you not rich but can buy that and if you were 16 why would your parents let you waste 1500 dollars?

[gryncek]

Surefire? O_o

[apoorpuppy]

There's most definitely trigger response delay there. Not too much, but definitely there.

[XxBuzzkill77xX]

lol it looks like your afraid to shoot the damn thing. Trust me, it can handle a LOT of abuse, drops, excessive firing, you name it. Its $1500 for a reason kid, use it.

[ske09pow3r]

dude go out join the game is to waste for in home just go out and hve fun for m4a1 show what you got!....dude

[LOSSYKLO]

dude what brand RIS do u have bcuz i just bought a sytema M4A1 and im lookin for a good rail

[morati1963]

Are these things worth the money?

[mickeyhand105]

@morati1963 not with the red orange tip he still has on

[Horhey232]

@morati1963 in the long run yes.... they are truely worth every cent they are worth. I only sold mine because I had to pay for a new stupid transmission... but I am saving up to get another one ASAP!

[xXFIREWIREXx]

credits are awsome. lolololololololol

[martinairsoft123]

u gotta admit thats a bad ass gun but what the hell are you doing with one if you were a proffesional that made a rich living from airsoft this still would be a lot of money imagine how many first class guns you could get for the price of this!! id get a KWA SR10 echo 1 er25k 50 mags for each 5 batteries 2 smarti chargers and 50000 bbs im sure most people would rather have all that. maybe even a used car?

[AIRSOFTx67]

nice guns

[killerwings69]

is your systema afraid to go outside because you were in your house shooting out it

[MasterChiefxyba]

damn chinese people are rich

[DUCER4]

can this take any brand battery or does it have to have a systema battery?

[mrduck37]

no it has to be systema because of how the battery is shaped.

[BLACK1982914]

死ねよキモメガネオタクヤロー

[mrduck37]

he was shooting with no bbs?

[DUCER4]

no cause if you have no bb's in it then it wont work cause the bolt catch has to be released for the gun to fire

[mrduck37]

oh.

[driftinsti]

no....

[kevinwearspradadood]

look at 0.16 through 0.25 it looks like he's scared to go outside! ha lulz

[RoyalAirsoft]

yeah it was raining outside lol, and it wouldn't been cool if the neigbors saw that thing, best keep it concealed as well as possible :)

[kevinwearspradadood]

yeah me two had the cops come to my house once, but it wasn't too bad they were like ah these things are cool, i have to get me one of these! ahem, i mean dont carry them around outside, people may mistake them for a real firearm... lol but yeah sick gun im going to get one in a week or two!

[RoyalAirsoft]

those seemed like some pretty tight cops. and nice, you should put up a vid of yours when you get it.

[kevinwearspradadood]

for sure, will do

[NullusxVotum]

tm sopmods FTMFW =P

[dasabeke]

Hey , can you pls tell me does it come with LED battery indicator ? I saw some has LED , do they come out 2009 models yet ? THx!!!

[brett123hall]

just hold the fuking trigger down for full auto!!!! that was the worst firing test i have ever seen, it was boring as shit, u take a half minuite break after every fuking shot......... but nice gun

[crazyaznpower12]

you mess up the gears in the gearbox fow full auto bursts longer then 5 seconds

[TheFatAssCat]

Your gun matches your name "Royal" lol. personally dont like how systemas sound. Yeesh! sounds like my g36c when it needed a shim job....

[ahb123456789]

shim job....lol

[NullusxVotum]

one of the reasons i went tm sopmods is because they sound GREAT

[kevinwearspradadood]

yeah i heard they sound pretty damn good too, i love the new battery setup as well, but im still gonna go for the systema lol but post a vid of yours! im eager to see.

[NullusxVotum]

i have 2 =P

[driftinsti]

i'm not sure if this is true but i've heard that there are many problems with a systema ptw. Like the motor problems(they have a new 490 motor but not sure if problems are solved) another is the molded body, many people have broken their bodies while trying to install new handguards and the usual gearbox problems.

[kevinwearspradadood]

yeah i've heard of the hop up being shit in older models, and the body breaking, but that's why im getting a g&p body on mine, lol

[driftinsti]

i'm really hoping they're fixed the old motor problems with the new motor. the Hop up shud'n't b too bad with the 09 models i think.

[kevinwearspradadood]

yeah, i think i might buy an 08 tho... you know when the 09's come out??

[driftinsti]

Sirmalagant on youtube has one search him up :P

[dasabeke]

Hi , Do you know if 09 models come with LED battery indicator (or) any models has it . thx!!!

[gdawg809]

@dasabeke yes

[michaelrachael]

Dude im in the same situtation as you

[bmpsound4]

stop taking your finger off the trigger after every shot. you look like a douche, not a real operator.

[calcner]

this is what real operators do to prevent accidental discharge

[quiksilver1155]

lol..u take so much time in between shots on the semi auto...we cant tell whether u hit the target or not...go trigger happy with ur systema!

[airsoftassasins]

why do you hold the gun from the magazine???? you've got a nice foregrip up there

[AirsoftMafia2]

i cant tell but it sounds like he is firing without ammo in it, so he has to hold down the bolt release or it wont fire

[airsoftassasins]

i don't know, but i do know that i just hate it when people don't wuv their foregrips.

[BrickWaluigi]

i know right?

[Digitalenzo]

dude Very nice gun man i'm getting one soon

[RYDERkN]

did you tell your self that or your bank account

[Digitalenzo]

no i really got one so keep an eye out for the video

[EBB47]

with the max cylinder

how far can the bb travel in feet

[kw33l]

And yet the motor fails..Fucking Systema...repay me for all the money i spent sending the motor back and forth to tackleberry in the UK.. And yet i have the MT-490 A-grade

[DanielJ16]

A MOSFET can make an AEG do what the Systema does, ex: stops shooting after all BBs are shot., and press the bolt catch to shoot again after putting the mag. in.

Frosch, your fingers must be really fast to be shooting 15 RPS on semi.

[YJSDIndustries]

I HIGHLY doubt a MOSFET would make the gun stop shooting after all the BBs are shot.

[Csczero]

Actually there is.. the AWS Mosfet Scorpion its only about 78$-115$ depending on how its customized. It offers similar results to a systema. Stops when no BB, full gear cycle, you name it they got it. And one thing they got over the systema is there is upgradable meaning more features can actually be on it.

Though the only differnt thing is, systema detects no more BB from its magazine, the AWS mosfet knows it empty from a sensor in the hop up. Yes, you need to press the bolt catch to load it

[YJSDIndustries]

So it's basically an AMAZINGLY tricked out Mosfet? I gotta find me one of these :D.

[frosch161]

you all say totally crap!!!

i got a systema m4 ptw max (2009 mod)

the systema got a whole new, and espacially designed gearbox!!

you can shoot in single fire mode 15 bbs per second ( if you pull the trigger really fast) and thats because its a whole new gearbox system!!

ITS NO TOY, ITS DESIGNED AND BUILD FOR training for SPECIAL FORCES!!!

sry my bad language, im from austria^^

keep it up

[Kkr3wK]

LOL he afraid to go out side!

[xrpixer]

come on man, unleash the beast and just hold down that trigger!

[DanielJ16]

PTW anyday. I personally have the money to buy one, but after much thought, it isn't really worth that kind of money for a single gun no matter how realistic it is. Now if you want realistic Garrison, you need to look at the WE/G&P/WA, preferrably G&P, blowbacks. Those are probably the MOST realistic airsoft guns you will ever find in the market now and heck, they're two times cheaper than a PTW. Well, I think my saying in this is done. Good bye and have a nice day.

[cstrikeman]

I totally agree. With the right combination of parts, you can get an AEG that shoots on par or better than a systema. I recently built a cqb-r and lowballed myself on the internals by deciding to go echo-1 with my gearbox and internals. The only upgrade I put was a MOSFET, new wires, and an M110 spring. It runs on a Systema Magnum and a 9.6v battery. To my surprise, it is a lot smoother than my G&P(stock parts) and King Arms(systema parts) upgraded 8mm bearing gearboxes.

[DanielJ16]

Kimmin is right once again, you can fully upgrade an AEG's internals to make it shoot better than a Systema. I have held one, shot one, and even fielded one and I'll tell you right now, an AEG can top it anyday with the right upgrades. Just because it costs $1000+ does not mean it's a "GODLY" gun. People that are smart enough won't buy a Systema PTW, now I'm not saying people who bought one are idiots, but with that kind of money, any AEG upgraded with that kind of money can surpass a Systema

[eddywangchang]

but it cannot surpass its realism

[supshane125]

You fail.

[DanielJ16]

Great review/s.

I would have to agree with kimmin that Systemas are overrated. I have already seen 3 of the '08 models break down because of some problems with there internal quality which I thought was ridiculous cause for a gun that cost more than $1000, I would've expected perfection without any problems. Now you also have to consider the price of each mag. ($35-$50 each) and the cylinders ($150+) and for that kind of price, I can buy at least 32 MAG midcaps for any brand of m4/m16s.

[Garrison64]

Great review btw. You did an excellent job showing every aspect of the weapon and it was really informative.

[polishdannybob]

What is the rate of fire with a 9.6

[F16pilot95]

im geting the systema wer u hav 2 build it is that betr than de assembled systema?

[CormiersCorner]

Eeehhhh... I wouldn't do that. You could break parts, put thing in incorrectly, etc. with the kit, but with the pre-assembled, you know that the parts are all in perfectly and there probably aren't any broken parts. I'd say the pre-assembled will have a longer life than the kit.

[Garrison64]

If you are technically inclined and really want to know how the gun goes together and are comfortable with that sort of thing then the kit can save you a lot of money. No it's not for everyone but for some people it's the best way to go.

[NehpetsK57]

what RIS did you buy, i want to get one for my ptw but i cant find any

[Irishstud11]

go to evike

[arse43]

that looks like an extremely light trigger pull?

have you seen the new tokyo marui m4 sopmod? apparently it has a realistic recoil

[VIDEOSK8MUSICA]

la cosa mas aburrida de airsoft que e visto

[CMARPAT]

I shot one of these today!!!!!

(giggles with girlish laughter)

[SuicidePie]

Wow great video's I usually hate to watch 10 minutes of a review but you covered everything everyone would want to know in these last three videos, even down to the fact the the ptw mags are better than marui. I dont own one of these guns (i have a CA sportline) because i dont have the money. but if i did i would buy it. And the way you treat it you deserve to own it. Great job 5/5

[sparten1122]

that trigger is SEN-SI-TIVE its kinda like a paintball gun

[illkill9]

gosh dang it looks like he doesn't even pull that trigger.

[poteten94]

How fast is that going to be with a 12 V battery :P

[Gravexero]

its too bad systemas dont have blowback. Since the company made them to be as realistic as possible =(

[sk8er4money123]

systemas are nice i have used one myself

[ChocolateOfTheOrient]

that gun does not sounds healthy replace the motor. that thing is squeling like a pig on full auto so bad you can even hear the piston because the motor is so loud it drowns it out

[RoyalAirsoft]

it has already been replaced wth a 490B

[K1mze]

The PTW 2008 model have the new 490 motor and it squels like that.

There are some problems with the 490 motors and Systema is working on releasing a new one.

Most ptw users prefer the old 480 motor that is much more quiet.

[woogster8452]

rumor has it theres a company coming out with a systema clone, completely compatible with systema ptw parts, and everything aparantly will be half the price of systema. and another rumor floating around if that systema might be manufacturing an ak-47.

[musicaws]

Thats a mad nice gun, but why would you spend that much, when you can get a just as good one that is like 150 - 250.

[cstrikeman]

No way are you going to get anything as good as a PTW for $150-$250. There's definitely nothing wrong with the PTW, but I can't justify the $1500 price tag. I'd rather try to make my AEG "PTW-like" with under $1k.

[kimmin1208]

amen brother.

just get an AEG around $200-300, and upgrade the internal.

with around $400-500 you'll be able to get a gun that is "better functioning" then PTW

[SuicidePie]

No offense but i dont understand how you would ever get the reliability, trigger response, or user friendliness of a systema from any marui-type aeg.

[kimmin1208]

trigger response? you can simply get a faster response with higher powered battery with upgraded internals while still costing 1/100000 of systema.

user friendliness? i believe that's a bull crap phrase you picked up from some kind of promotional videos. full metal guns can feel just as comfortable as real things do. there is really not that much of a difference. systema promoters just make such a big deal out of 300 grams difference in weight, but w/e.

[SuicidePie]

As for as "user friendliness" goes I simply mean how easy it is to change the speed of it (cylinder), or take it down. And one thing I forgot to mention is how it automatically completes the cycle no matter how fast you let go of the trigger. And dont tell me you can do that with a super high torque motor in a marui because it is impossible without a computer chip. And as far as promo videos i have never made it through 30 seconds of one because they are so boring. there's a reason you pay 1500$

[kimmin1208]

believe me. 12V battery with high torque motor will finish pushing the bb forward before you even have time to let go of the trigger.

plus i dont think interchangable cylinders are really worth 1500 dollars. i would rather have a gun that shoots 300 fps and costs 300 and another one that is modified to shoot 500 and costs only 700 including upgrades. systema is not the most realistic weapon, and it is highly overrated.

[SuicidePie]

yeah i guess it just depends what you want.

[kimmin1208]

yes. i have a couple friend who have systema ptw m4, but i have never seen them changing their cynlinder in the middle of the game anyways. when i really want a high accuracy and fps to be a sniper, i just use my upgraded m4 with m160 spring. not to mention, all internals except for a couple are made by systema, but the totall cost was still only 700.

but w/e. if you have 1500 bucks sitting in your hand, you can do what you want

[Garrison64]

You'll never get the quality out of an upgraded weapon that you get from the Systema. I don't even own one and I know that. Only people who are jealous because they don't have the money for one would be ignorant enough to complain about this weapon. It's as close to the real thing as you are going to get with an airsoft and no upgraded $300 rifle will come even close in quality and design. All your talking with your upgrades is fps as if that's the whole story.

[kimmin1208]

"i don't even own one and i know that."

that's sort of an oxymoron. if you don't one how would you know?

getting a decent gun and flushing out the entire internal with systema parts still costs less than any systema rifles. systema is clearly overrated.

and excuse me, upgrading the velocity of the gun involves far more than you're implying right now. it involves reinforced spring guide, cylinder, gears, high speed motor, etc. there is no better or costly upgrade then fps upgrades.

[ewr318]

notice how he holds it by the reciever not the handle

[adult159]

So do you hvae to push the bolt release ever 30 or 120?

[ouzts12]

u barely put any pressure on the trigger...

[david328ci]

what is the rate of fire (rps) of the systema m4?

[IFDFIREFIGHTER]

lose the toy and buy a real m4

[kimmin1208]

well its illegal to bring a real gun to an airsoft field isn't it?

idiot

[illkill9]

do you know what airsoft guns are for?

[killED122]

do u play games

[RoyalAirsoft]

fuck yeah no point in buying a $1500 gun just to look at it lol.

[NumbNutProductions]

lol

[NarsilsBane]

Couple questions:

1. Who Makes your PEQ box?

2. Who makes the vertical grip?

3. What dot sight is that?

4. Which RIS rail is that?

[RoyalAirsoft]

1.G&P

2.G&P

3.G&P aimpoint

4.G&P M4 RAS

[smilly3566]

lol, all G&P

[adult159]

G&P makes grate stuff!

[crazyfoolo117]

plus you didnt even need to pull the trigger...hardly, dunno if thats a advantage to some peole, but i like a nice SOLID trigger pull.

[crazyfoolo117]

and authentic recoil

[whitebread1301]

stare is waht i meant to say,damn im stupid today

[whitebread1301]

satre,airsoft is where u can shoot ppl and not kill them,like paintball but more realistic.and it is $1495 only because systema guns are as realistic as airsoft can get.theyalso are very accurate and crazy ROF for a stock gun.

[stareandwonder]

I know, I use to airsoft, and am getting back into it. But still, its the price of a colt:S I couldn't do it, i'll spend about 700 though, the price of an LMT upper :D

[stareandwonder]

Forgot to add, awesome set up, alot like my future ar15, expect my ar will have an acog ta01nsn and a 10.3 inch barrel . Mk18 mod all the way

[stareandwonder]

i dont see a point in spending 1500 on an airsoft gun...My real ar was less. Though, if its your hobby spend away because I'm doing the same thing with real stuff lol. Only thing is, each of my accessories will be as much as the damn firearm lol.

[TheGreat213]

nice u got yourself a 1500 dollar airsoft gun thats used by the police for training!!! =D btw what kind of bbs do u use?

[RoyalAirsoft]

I currently use systema .2, but not too impressed with them, so I'm gonna be switching AE .25.

[TheGreat213]

i use G&Gs on my JG M4 and i can hit a can from about 80 feet away with a tightbore barrel would getting better bbs increase my accuracy or range?

[RoyalAirsoft]

yes good bbs will help with accuracy, though G&Gs arent too bad of BBs though.

[TheGreat213]

yeah thanks for the advice

[TheGreat213]

one more question the tightbore i used was my friends and he let me borrow it so im thinking about getting a systema tightbore for my JG M4 would that work?

[RoyalAirsoft]

Not sure about that. I have a systema tightbore in my ICS M4 and that fit perfectly and greaty increased accuracy and range, not sure if it'll be same for the JG, but it should fit, not garunteeing anything though.

[gotja]

I't will fit but I would go for Promethious tightbore

[gotja]

Do not use g&g to many deormities there cheeper but theres more deformities

[TheGreat213]

wat would that do to my gun? because im planning on getting airsoft elite bbs but i cant get them now so i have to stick with my g&gs would that ruin my gun?

[gunitgaurilla50]

no.. g&g's are good. i use them all the time

[porchmonkey45]

You need to learn how to hold the gun dude.

Good review for a young kid though.

[SlantyShanty]

like i found a systema gear box and motor and it says its for m4/m4a1/m4RIS so i was a little confused.i wanted to know if that gearbox would fit i found it at redwolf but it was out of stock then i found it on airspalt... will it work in my ics/ i have a systema motor coming and i think that might work in the gun

[RoyalAirsoft]

no the gearbox will not fit. The ICS uses a split gearbox design, therefore the reciever dimensions are not the same as other M4s, so the systema gearbox will not fit in an ICS. ICS can only takes its own gearbox.

[SlantyShanty]

hey i was sorta wondering if a systema gear box could go into an ics m4. what do you think cuz i wanna try to get systema parts into my m4

[RoyalAirsoft]

No, the dimensions of an ICS M4 is differnt from a systema PTW's, therefore a PTW gearbox would not work, but systema does make parts specialy for AEGs though.

[GSPblue]

Ya you need to learn how to handle it and show its accuracy then i'd be good

[RoyalAirsoft]

I'll get some accuracy tests up soon.

[lee1hy]

great video but you need how to hanlde the gun and whats really need RIS option

[RoyalAirsoft]

Thx, and sorry I don't really understand your english, but I use the RIS for mounting accessories cus I prefer to dech out my gun.

[RoyalAirsoft]

Thanks, glad to hear someone else who got their PTW in teenage years.

[DaOneAndOnly3]

i got same gun but i have cqb version, but vicious video mann first good review about the ptw i got mine wen i waz like 15, i love it but have funn wit it