The Sopranos - Columbus Day

[tucsonia]

Tony is 3rd generation Italian, at the earliest so he's become Americanized enough to where he doesn't buy the old school Sicilian mobster mumbo jumbo. The first big anti-ethnic pragmatist boss was Lucky Luciano, whose very best mob friend in the early days onward was Meyer Lansky, a Jew. Tony doesn't go around in stereotypical overdressed suits all the time but tends to dress sports shirt casual like a lot of middle aged guys. He in the end is supposed to be an ethnic yet assimilated American.

[FullSwagSyceGame507]

@tucsonia i think he is 2nd generation. i think his father tommy was the 1st american born italian in his family.

[manposhi]

Chef Fuckin' Boyardee.

[texasB666]

What Tony was trying to say was: Ethnic or national pride is bullshit.

[CAinfowarrior]

He was gay; Gary Cooper??? 0_o ????

[BowmanSchram]

HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY EVERYBODY!!!

[mrtundra45]

"the abused cowboys" HAHA

[peadarrock12]

Gary Cooper wasn't "Texas Irish" he was Montana-born English-American.

[superhornet69]

Ohmigod...when Christopher asks if Gary Cooper was gay...I laughed my ass for a good, solid minute!! I see Tony's point, though. I mean everyone at some point got fucked over and got a raw deal. The point is you have to move on and get over it and stop being a victim...that is what Tony is really trying to say.

[thelonedissenter]

it's interesting to see how Tony is very "libertanian" (sp?) in this clip. although i shouldn't generalize.

[BayAreaOrBust]

Probably one of the best scene in television history. A lot of truth and hints of humor make it great.

[TheGonzoArt]

@BayAreaOrBust Oh i agree completely, Tony and Sil at their best. JG should've gotten an Emmy for playing him. Did he ever win any award for this show, I can't remember?

[shadowpsfp]

The point that Tony is making is to stop complaining about what has happened to you, cause it gets you no where. Do what you have to do, do the right thing! Hence Gary Cooper.

[dr1345]

@shadowpsf That's not the point Tony makes because he is a big complainer himself. He complains and blames others for the most of the series. Haven't you noticed his constant bitching and incessant negativity? It's just other people's problems he doesn't want to hear about because it bothers and depresses him. His Gary Cooper thing is more about being more tough and resilient in general. The real point of this scene is that people shouldn't latch on their national pride and let go off the past.

[kulgan18]

@dr1345

Yea Tony complains a lot himself, he did said to Melfi that is more that he wants to be like Gary Cooper and is somebody that he admires.

But that he felt that going to therapy wasn't a good thing and made him be like the rest of the "jerkoffs"(his words).

[dr1345]

@kulgan18 Yeah, "Why does everything happens to me?!" That's his catch phrase throughout the series. Although he is the one who usually puts himself in the situation. Tony is a sociopath. He has no set fixed principals. He's just using them to serve himself where he sees it fits. Like this Columbus Parade episode. He could help, but didn't wanna get involved because solving the problem didn't benefit HIM in any way. Yet he would use his Italian heritage as an excuse to be a criminal with Melfi.

[porn1978]

i watched this twice and still didnt understand wtf tony was talking about.

[kulgan18]

It makes a lot of sense what Tony is saying.

Now everybody's got a Victim Complex. And They rather whine than getting shit done.

[o8z06]

"You got a wife, who's a piece of ass. At least she was when you married her." lol

[metalrave]

not colombus, or the godfather or chef boyarfuckingdee lololol

[Borat911]

abused cowboys !?? is there realy such victim group in the US ? hahaha

[SnowballPlanet]

"What the fuck happened to Gary Cooper?"

"He died."

[charleybelledog]

funny, frankie valli was in the show later on, playing a capo from new york. frankie valli is cool.

[crimsoncontracting]

Haha the most epic fuckin show ever built haha silvio "i woulda been fuckin there i forgot this was a monday"

[beatarmy22]

I love when Tony says " You got a wife who's a piece of ass, at least she was when you narried her." It's hilarious because the actress who plays Silvio's wife is actually his real life wife

[dander337]

Tony saying to Sil, "..you got a wife, who's a piece of ass, at least she was when you married her.." is hilarious considering Sil's wife on the show is his REAL LIFE WIFE LLoLL. Damn, these guys really have a great sense of humor!

[SouljaBoyRealHipHop]

Incredibly insightful stuff, coming from the mouth of someone like Tony S.

[gymratg88]

VIVA ITALIA!!!! FORZA!

[Theguido177]

Fuck everyone the mexicans,russians,germans, and whoever the fuck, viva italia!!

[myautomobilefunk]

Silvio Dante was fuckin obssesed with this shit about italians, what about the indians? the russians? the mexicans? and people from other countries .

[StyrbjornStarke]

@myautomobilefunk Why should he care about them? he was italian and was pissed that people discriminated against his people

[myautomobilefunk]

@StyrbjornStarke haha fuck off...that wasnt discrimination .

[toolman472]

Tony you forgot where you came from

[RevchenkoTheWolf]

Boo Hoo poor Italians.. you think they had it bad? Check the Russian peoples history

[thestranger4812]

@RevchenkoTheWolf

The Russians are too fucking rude these days to earn any sympathy.

[mrtundra45]

@RevchenkoTheWolf Russians never had any hardship in America. maybe in Russia.

Native Americans got the wort deal ever...then blacks, then chinese immigrants, then Italians, then mexicans, than yugoslavians, jews polaks irish ect...

Italians used to get lynched and work slave labor for pennies.

[rodthepimp]

Fuckin Eyetalians

[sonnyred5050]

Either way it dont mtter! Whats done is done...coulda woulda shoulda, aincient history! ... Italians are still GREAT!

[sonnyred5050]

And the Italian Immigrants had it much worse than the Irish..remember there were wealthy Irishmen and Irish slave owners, the KKK used to go out and Lynch Italians back in the 1890s and early 1900s...Anglo americans didnt even want to consider Italians as "white" which is funny because They chose to name this country after the Italian explorer "Amerigo Vespucci"....fuckin racist inbred idiots, they probably just wanted to piss off the queen of England, im suprised America wasnt named New England

[bigc658]

@sonnyred5050 What about the roman times when Britain was ruled over by wops, the statue of Claudius and the british woman wrestled to the heel of the emperor. Everybody has they're day.

[LoadMySTG44]

@sonnyred5050 They were Scotch-Irish, There were no Irish Americans in the KKK, because the Irish are Catholic and back then you had to be American born for many many generations in the south to be in the KKK

[sonnyred5050]

Anglo American AKA milky "white" and pure.

And it wasnt Columbus who killed milions of Indians, it was the "white" English and Dutch colonists they also fueled and prepetuated the slave trade, the god dammed WASP americans!

Its amazing how some great and couragous Italian explorers who originally set out to establish trade routes and map the seas get badmouthed for nothing, it was the godammed English who decided to Kill ALL the natives and Take over the ENTIRE continent!...

[simmy0987]

"The point is Gary Cooper............the real Gary Cooper.........or anyone named Cooper, never suffered like the Italians". LMAO

[Joefonzgoldenarms]

whats funny is frankie valley plays the part of new york guy rusty later on

[sventoby]

Also Silvio technically did get all of the stuff he did because he was Italian

[sventoby]

"You mean because he fought the Sioux in all those Westerns"

lol'd

[Avngingandbright]

How does Sil drive with his chin planted on his chest?

[Pentagon1311]

I love it how this is the second time Tony mentions Gary Cooper the "strong, silent type"... These little things made the Sopranos the greatest show on tv...

[tHeWasTeDYouTh]

I was born in Spain and if I ever meet any of those native american fucks that want to disrespect the achievements that my fellow Spaniards(and Italians did then I will give them the greatest ass beatdown ever recorded

The Native Americans when the Europeans arrived lived in standards that where even less than what the Romans had, the Aztec on the other hand and the Inca where on the same level as the Romans. What the fuck where these people doing while people in Europe where so ahead of them.

[toolman472]

well said

[MobKnowledge]

@tHeWasTeDYouTh

The point of this scene is that your ethnic background doesn't define you. A lot of people who show pride in their roots are showing pride in something they basically did nothing to gain. You did nothing to work towards being Spanish; you were just born there. A lot of people who take pride in their culture do so because they can't find pride anywhere else. They haven't achieved anything on their own, so they ride the coat tails of great people who come from the same area.

[billsy69]

maybe we oughta just whack this prick.

LOL Sil

[reevy]

shows how much more of a conscience tony actually has compared to the rest of his crew, which probably contributed to his depression.

[Malocosa]

Great scene. I wish you had included the ending credits and the Frankie Valli music that accompanied it.

[burgersforreal]

I hate silvio's face with that dropped lip..so annoying looking

[suburbjorn]

suchhhhhh good dialogue! hahaha i love dopey christopher

[trickz323]

Tonys right, he successful with the topless bar because he was him, not because he italian. Thats like saying a black guy can be an NBA baller because he tall or can jump high, or make a fucking basket everytime............4get about !

We all americans here, lets start keeping it real again people !

[Celticboi69]

The Irish, Jews, Native Americans, Slavs, and African Africans suffered the most then any other race in the world. Out of the five I listed only the Blacks, Native Americans and and Jews complain the most how they were treated. I never heard any Slavs or Irish Americans complaining how bad they were treated or have it.

[0988bigc]

@Celticboi69 you think gary cooper was irish? he was anglo saxon protestant. thats why he never complained. but i agree the irish don't cry either.

[Celticboi69]

@0988bigc I never said Gary Cooper is Irish and I never mentioned him

[0988bigc]

@Celticboi69 yeh alrite, i just wanted to make the point because alot of people probably think he is irish.

[LoadMySTG44]

@0988bigc  What a douche

[somebody434]

@Celticboi69 yea, that's total bullshit that slavs or irish were discriminated. I have czech and irish ancestors and they were successful americans. Men were men back then and weren't offended as easily as everyone nowadays who is always looking for something to get mad about.

[Celticboi69]

@somebody434 They were successful because they worked hard to get it through their communities, but outside the community the Anglo-Americans were at some point very racial when it came to certain European immigrants and they weren't to fond of Catholics mosty the Irish. I'm talking about before the Civil War and the 1860s. I am talking about 1830-1850s. At that time most men of power at that TIME were Anglo-Americans (WASP)

[somebody434]

@Celticboi69 They may have given them some flak over it but I highly doubt it was much of an issue. It's called assimilation. In the modern world of political correctness we are taught that assimilation is bad. Without assimilation what would be the point of even having a nation? So yes, there has to be some effort to assimilate people.

[Mehrunissah93]

Even though the comments were made a year ago, all of that "blah blah blah" has a lot to do with today. Duh. These problems affect us all today and influence where we all are as a people today. The past affects us and stays relevant every day. It explains the separations and complexes people have today.

[TheBritishRebel]

This scene is actually a response to the whining Italian American organisations claiming that the Sopranos was giving Italian Americans a bad name.

[Mehrunissah93]

@TheBritishRebel How do you know?

[TheBritishRebel]

@Mehrunissah93 Because I read about it before. The show was getting a lot of flack from this one Italian American organisation.

[eddefy22]

"You take it up with Frankie Valle when you talk to him"

LOL that's how the show ends. Sopranos has everything. Although I didn't like Season 5-6 as much as season 1-4. Everything was funnier in the first 4 seasons. 

[pbl1]

you 2 should get a room

[dr1345]

abused cowboys! ahahaha LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[willburr]

Chefukkinboyardee lol

[matt4924150]

what's this episode called?

[elsastico]

@matt4924150

Saison 4 , episode 3 " Christopher "

scene 6 "after the parade "

[matt4924150]

thanks

[p209406]

The point of this scene is know the past but do not LIVE in it.

[carlos7217]

what a show....pure class....fk tarrentino

[r3nzz0]

I love sopranos but I think pulp fiction or reservoir dogs are far superior

[kt1789]

you got a wife,whos a nice piece of ass,at least she was when you married her!!

[snowyywwinters]

tony tells it how it is!!!

[angrycoyote]

Tony: "I wonder whatever happened to Gary Cooper" setting Gary as an example and Sil goes: "He died.." LOL

[barcelona36]

Probably the worst episode, but this was a great scene.

[RubHerSoul1]

"He was gay,Gary Cooper?" NOOOOOOOO! Are you lissenin' to me?! LOLOLOL!

[thelonedissenter]

@RubHerSoul1 and Chris's reaction is priceless lol

[HLjoker]

"Columbus was so long ago he might aswell have been a fucking movie" lmfao

[criceto]

May someone subtitlet it?

[Krowsnose]

This scene shows the close relationship between Sil and Tony. I doubt Tony would have let anyone else continue challenging him like that, even if it was over something little.

[jiveturkey25]

What Tony Soprano said is true...it's all about self-esteem!

[BigC2988]

Gary Cooper was English.

[AlexTheRockingRabbi]

IMDB says he was born in Montana, im not saying your wrong, its just you might be :)

[snowstormcan]

I think what BigC2988 was saying is that Gary Cooper was of English decent, not Irish as Tony said.

[cougarspeed24]

Frank James Cooper

May 7, 1901 (1901-05-07)

Helena, Montana, U.S.

[asj1986]

Maybe the greatest scene in TV history. A lot of truth to what Tony is sayin. And hilarious on top of it.

[paulegf]

@asj1986 Man I was just thinking the same thing before I scrolled down and read your comment.

[txff2002]

"you got a wife whos a piece of ass.....at least she was when you married her"

HAHAHA

[fjtease]

Every ethnic group could learn from what T told Sil...you got what you have because of you. What are you gonna do...shoot or dribble...

[jiveturkey25]

I agree.

[icompoze2]

Chris: "He was gay, Gary Cooper?"

Tony: "NOOOOOOOOOO! ARE YOU LISTENIN' TO ME?!"

My favorite Tony line of the whole series!

[appearanced]

greatest soprano scene.

[AntagonisticApathy]

is that guy wearing a rug? ew!

[citykid33]

Tony: What happened to Gary Cooper?

Sil: He died

LOL

[smallandmumpy]

I love Tony's obsession with Gary Cooper, the strong silent type haha.

[Dannyb0y24]

History affects now. The irish had no colonies in america because they were oppressed and enslaved by the british. the british got the head start

[siie55]

"who the fuck are you kidding?" haha

[wabankik]

The norse "Wikings"discovered america,.not some disease riden greasy punk who pulled into Haiti to trade pasta and bryl Cream with north american aboriginals,...."The Hammer of The gods -Vahala"..."Velkommen Venn"

[malmswax]

Funny those norse gods had to wait for Amerigo (Ameriga-n) Vespucci to name the place "America". Loud, drunk and stupid is no way to got though life. Columbus thought he was in India.

[sonnyred5050]

@wabankik No...the Vikings discovered Greenland and Northern Canada...that cold desolate block of Ice....wow great discovery.

Besides, the Inuit indians and eskimos were Allready there, Vikings were lame.

The real discoverers of America were the mongloid asians who came from Siberia.(asia)

[maddingo12]

Yeah, Italians are so great.. that's why they could not afford their own expeditions. That's why the French, Portugese, Spanish and English ate up all the New World. And you know what? Had the Italians been able to take, discover and conquer North America, they would of dominated and killed the Indians as well. It's just that the English did it.

[sonnyred5050]

@maddingo12 Thats Incorrect......

[maddingo12]

Nice comeback. Yeah, you put me in my place.

[CrociatoAzzurro]

@maddingo12

Afford ????

You are an IDIOT ! It had nothing to do with being able to afford it or not.  Until wasn't unified until 1861.

[jralto26722]

"he was gay gary cooper?"

lmao christopher is the best

[tallica14]

cock sucking indians!

[malmswax]

"...and the unsung western hero, he kill an indian or three. Then he made his name in Hollywood...to set the white men free...." Hymn 43 Jethro Tull

[cosmic112]

Tony makes a good point but misses the mark, there is in America a standard, a white standard which is privileged in many ways. American Indians to this day have the poorest county in the United States and that my friends is no government accident. With all that said, I love the Sopranos.

[SilvioManfredDante85]

abused cowboys ! hahahahaha

[XIPM3]

this was an awesome scene that has alot of important things to say, such as the ideal of no complaining when the shit comes down hard.

[brwhizz]

I think it's more about letting things go that really don't matter, i.e: an argument about the morality of a European explorer that lived about 500 years ago.

[XIPM3]

really? when a jew forgives hitler, ill forgive colombus and all the other european assholes who commited whole sale genocide against native americans.

[brwhizz]

How can you possibly judge Columbus by the 'human rights' orientated society of the 21st century?

[XIPM3]

i think you are missing the point of the video.

[brwhizz]

I think I got the point of the video perfectly actually.

[XIPM3]

well youd be wrong about that because it has nothing to do with native americans or 400 year old european discoverors.

[10xjava]

And the Native Americans were all peacefully coexisting before the arrival of the Europeans?! The different tribes were just as brutal & "genocidal" to each other ! It's symptomatic of fallen human nature.

[XIPM3]

no shit sherlock, nobody is saying that, and you are wrong by the way, they may have been brutal, but they were not genocidal. everyone across the globe kills, but white europeans killed on a whole sale level. the native americans at least didnt fucking turn this country into an obese coast to coast wall mart filled with corruption, poverty, illiteracy, fried food and christian rednecks. you know who did? WASPS, white anglo saxon protestants! and no i am no panzy liberal, i am actually military!

[killuminati43]

I love Columbus. He discovered America, discovered my islands (Cuba and Puerto Rico). History is filled with genocide, War, and destruction on all scales. We cant take todays standards of Human rights an villianize the ancients. Even, Sicily was brutally invaded: men and children killed; women were rapped. That was the way the times were: the stronger races survived while the weaker ones perished.

[XIPM3]

i hate to say this in a debate but you are talking from your ass, europeans settlers originally came here for gold and conquest, it doesnt get more outright corrupt and downright evil than that. secondly, unless you have taino indian heritage or some other carribean islander heritage, they are not your islands. and they were discovered long before the genocidal columbus came to those islands and murders 8 million natives on hispaniola alone. and at least sicily still belongs to sicilians!

[killuminati43]

Oh please.enough already.

[XIPM3]

enough already? why dont you go say enough already to the jews, i am sure they would love to hear it. "oh hey, us jews will just stop complaining about the fucking holocaust". educate yourself, the history you learned in highschool is what we like to call, history by the victors. in otherwords every thing you think you know about history, is told from the point of view from those who won.

[killuminati43]

And if the Indians won, history would be written in their favor. So enough. Surivival of the fittest. And yes, enough of the

indians complaining. Enough of the Jews complaining. Enough of the blacks complaining.

[XIPM3]

im one of the fittest people i know, should i kill people weaker than me?? hmm?? should we remember the likes of hitler, stalin, and colombus kindly even if they were "fitter" than those they butchered.

[killuminati43]

Im done with your bullshit.

[XIPM3]

thats good, get back to me when you are done with your own bullshit.

[brightlights456X]

People may not forget or even forgive, but they still have to move on.

[killuminati43]

The orginal Europeans and the "true heirs to the American Revolution", never expected this country to become a hotbed for corruption, poverty, Illiteracy, fried foods or whatever else plagues American society today. The spiritual element of this nation is gone. Blame it on the liberals, but dont blame it on the original European settlers.

[XIPM3]

the original europeans were blood thirsty conquerors, they didnt just rape kill and burn like most people did, they hung women to ceilings via hooks from their backs, they fed babies to children, gangraped, every thing that happened at nanking in china, happened to the native americans on a much larger scale. and i dont like liberals, i cant stand them, but republicans are no better and no less idiotic than the liberals are. the spiritual element of this nation was murdered when whites (cont)

[XIPM3]

(continued) slaughtered all that was left of native american culture, whats left are the remanants of a proud, and arguably one of the most spirtiual, nature loving cultures in the world. now, most native americans are alcoholic redneck trash, just like the whites who made them so. there has been no greater fall of man than the native american, at least blacks still have their dignity- at least they have a god damn president in office. at least they still have their native homes left.

[SuicideTaxi]

It's absolutely hilarious to watch you two argue... because you're arguing exactly about what Tony is talking about lol

It's the liberals... its the conservatives... the blacks dont have it as bad as the indians... the Europeans did bad things hundreds of years ago.... blah blah blah. What the fuck does any of it have to do with TODAY? (Besides nothing.)

[XIPM3]

well- it has alot to do with today, the present exists on the foundation of the past.

[kanguesso]

very well said dude. i couldn't have said it better myself. asking people to forget the past is like asking them to forget part of their identity. more importantly, the part that is responsible for how they shape up to be in the future.

[kanguesso]

those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

[toolman472]

@XIPM3 What about the Italian culture.Columbus was a great man!

[xCAGx77]

"he was gay Gary Cooper?"

[JAHamilton77]

@xCAGx77 I almost die every time I hear that line. Chris is a total dimwit

[Bman3901]

Gary Cooper lmao

T is right all the time

[Bulacanos]

I like this scene. Tony knows that it is more important to act like a man instead of gloating over ones ancestry.

[aboy16]

tht the truth

[bls8ball]

he gots his shit because he was italian! tonys wrong!

[xcalabur19]

This is easily in my top five Sopranos of all time. "You're wife was a piece of ass, at least she was when you married her." Haha awesome.

[juanzze]

Thanks for posting this... five stars

[Wiseguy455]

I love this scene.

"TOUGH SHIT! you're making the fuckin call!"

[420check420]

he was gay, gary cooper?