the situaton is really different, hollyoaks story line is more brutal and angst while atwt is just really soft, i mean the gf accept it differently, maddie accept it better than sarah, n she still befriend with luke indiffrenly, while sarah keep on yelling at john paul... i think it's not about the actor, it's about the story line...
its gotta be mcdean! i love how when sarahs attacking craig, john paul shouts 'stop it your hurting him!' and drags sarah off craig, even though craig just broke his heart it shows how much he loves him!
I love both Luke&Noah and John Paul&Craig! But no comparison between them.
Maddie didn't react so bad like Sarah because Maddie and Noah weren't even together very long because she was on the rebound from her ex boyfriend. Sarah and Craig were together for a very long time and she really loved him.
So no comparison on how Maddie and Sarah found out about them.
How can you compare the two? Don't get me wrong I love Van and I think his talent is wasted on ATWT. But the McDean s/l was so well written and very well acted. The Mcdean s/l is still the best soap s/l I have ever seen.
That McDean reveal was truly one of the best things I've seen on a TV show. It was crazy perfect. You really feel for all the characters even when Craig was being a jerk.
I don't think you can even compare Hollyoaks to a show like ATWT or any American daytime soap. Hollyoaks simply has better production values, sets, editing, writing, etc. ATWT couldn't even afford a scene like that.
I always live reveals that have almost the whole town there so I believe Hollyoaks win. ATWT could have done a better job, Maddie didn't even see them kiss, she only got an implied response from Luke and that was it.
The thing is, is that I think out of the four, Van is the strongest actor, and Jake is the weakest. That's just my opinion, but I do think you can group Van, Guy, and James together, so I don't understand why everyone i saying that Hollyoaks acting is so much better. It's different characters and storylines, and each story is presented in its own way.
For soap operas, I think both are very realistic scenes.
I prefer Luke and Noah as a couple, but the Hollyoak scene wins hands down.
Also, I think the directing in the Hollyoaks scene was better. The camera angles, and the slow motion along is what made it so much more epic and rememberable. Not only that, but with Craig and John Paul, that scene was meant to be a climatic, but with Noah and Luke, it was only anticlimatic.
Guy's acting was impecable, and you can feel the pain seeping into your heart. It was meant to be a lot more subtle situation for Luke and Noah.
I retract my statement from almost a year ago. Although I said the Hollyoaks scene won, I said Luke and Noah were my prefered couple. That has since changed. Luke and Noah don't interest me anymore. However, McDean is still awesome.
Not that anyone really cares except me, but yeah... just thought I'd say it somewhere officially.
It´s the acting that was awesome in Mcdean. And the chemistry between the actors!! I tried to watch Luke and Noah more than once, but american soaps are just blah...and their acting made me "hmmm...do I really want to watch this?" No offense to Nuke fans, just my opinion!!
sarah annoys the hell out of me too... this was the only time in the whole mcdean SL i actually felt sorry for her! if you read some of the comments on mcdean videos, you'll see that she's not well liked at all!
It's hard to choose between two such different situations.
Maddie is such a sweet, loving and understandinh woman who accepts how hard it is for Noah to accept his feelings for Luke, and she tries to help him even though she is deeply hurt by his lies.
With Sarah all she can see is the hurt, which is understandable considdering that she finds out at her engagementparty. And everyone finding out at the party just makes everything worse.
Luke/Noah all the way! I know people are saying that Luke/Noah is not as 'full on' as JPC but thats because in America its a new thing having a gay couple on daytime TV, so they are taking it slow. If it was in the UK that ATWT aired then Luke/Noah would be able to show their true magnificence/be more 'raw', but unfortunately thats not the case and they cant be AS raw, at least not RIGHT now, but they are getting better in what stuff they air of them. Both are great but Luke/Noah does it for me.
yet again Mcdean all the way. The Nuke/Maddie situation is a little too sutle for me. Although if both situations were real life you would want to find out the way maddie did and NOT how Sarah does!! The thing that blow me away with these scenes is Guy Burnet. OMG I so feel his pain as well as Sarah's ( great acting also to Loui Batley). In terms of having to out Craig in such a public way I was not liking JP for these reveal episodes but for the good of the soap it was done brillantly.
clearly the jp and craig reveal is better - it had been building for so long! Its amazing! Over a year later Sarah (craig's girlfriend at the time) still hates jp.
I've seen all of the C&JP storyline up to the point where Craig leaves.
I don't know.
ATWT is less dramatic while Hollyoaks is over the top. Maybe it's Sarah that ruined it for me...being all hysterical and whatnot. I hate it when people are hysterical. lol
I think I would act more like maddie. A man cant help who he falls in love with, but both Noah and Craig should have told the truth. I hate how Noah goes at Luke, though i do love that head wiggle by luke. and I hate how Craig reacted to what JP said.
I like Van Hansis(luke) as an actor, he is so believable, as is the one who plays JP, but the one who plays craig is kinda melodramatic and stuff. And Jake sibermann (noah) is great but not as good as Van with the melodrama, more scripted seeming. I liked both, this one is hard.
I am not saying he is bad, dont get me wrong, he is juat very expressive, sometimes too much. Maybe it is just the faces he makes, especially when he cried=) I say we ditch these and just qatch Queer as folk, Brian and Justin are hot enough we can forget the drama and watch 'em kiss and... well you know =) JK, I like these shows too much, they just dont show enough hot guys kissing and stuff lol.
Hollyoaks for sure. Some people have already talked about the differences in the male actors. I'll focus on the females. When Sarah found out her exressions and lines were very believable. Especially "so one day you just thought... how could you do this to me?!'"
Maddie however, her lines screamed "I read the script" to me. Especially "stop lying" and "you used me". Not believable at all imo.
I wish the American soaps will improve their believability in acting.
American soaps are faster paced, with much shorter scenes and storylines. American men generally aren't protrayed as "criers." Van Hansis is actually pretty darn accurate in his protrayal of a gay teen in so many ways.
I love the guy that plays John Paul although he seems to cry alot. The "revelation" scene is a bit over the top and reminds of the death scene in "Carrie."
I don't really thing that the hollyoaks scene is over the top, I actually think it's very accurate to the story. If you have seen hollyoaks, you know that Craig is in deep denial about his feelings and you know how afraid of the truth he is. When the truth comes out, his whole world just falls apart.
Yes, much more history on Hollyoaks with these characters. When Maddie finds out about Noah, she has only been with him for a month and she's not in love with him, nor are Luke and Noah in love with each other at this point. Still, a year ago when Luke came out to his parents and Kevin, he never completely fell apart but was obviously very emotional in Van Hansis' protrayal
I don't think John Paul cries a lot, I just think he cries a lot in public. Most guys will wait until they're completely alone before they let a tear fall. My girl friends and I talk about how our boyfriends seem to cry surprisingly a lot more than we do, lol.
but when I watch how these actor's (James n Guy) and the other actor's portray the characters it blew me away n I have been watching it whenever I get the chance, thanks to Nick aka da33431
no contest Hollyoaks won, American soap actor's (some) are not to convincing enough when they act out their lines. American writer's come out with great story lines but when these "so called" actor's don't play the character right, they kill the story, not like the actor's in Hollyoaks. When I first came across it (Hollyoaks) on youtube, I thought, "oh, another soap and its in UK."
As of right now, yes, kissing is as far as they have gone. Their relationship is just about to start, so hopefully in the near future, they'll have sex.
Hollyoaks by a mile. Truly heart stopping TV. And once again some amazing acting from James and Guy. I live in America and just wish the acting wasn't so cheesy on our SOAPS. Van and Jake look so weak in comparision.
True. ATWT has a great storyline going, but when you look at some of the scenes sometimes, It's over the line cheesy. Sometimes Noah can be sort of...weak when it comes to his lines. Not saying he's a bad actor. I happen to think Jake is a fantastic actor, but just the way the characters have to present themselves. Of course this is daytime and Hollyoaks is nighttime soap. I'm sure that is part of the difference.
Sometimes I do wonder what the inside of John Paul's mouth taste like!
Breoreos1 3 months ago
if you paurse it on 7>56 dead on it looks like jp is having a orgasme lol love hollyoaks
leahcharliephillips 6 months ago
the situaton is really different, hollyoaks story line is more brutal and angst while atwt is just really soft, i mean the gf accept it differently, maddie accept it better than sarah, n she still befriend with luke indiffrenly, while sarah keep on yelling at john paul... i think it's not about the actor, it's about the story line...
TheAinakuma 10 months ago
john paul and craig win
50602therachel 1 year ago
woohooo soooo dramatic jp&c!!!!
Woooobey 1 year ago
Hollyoaks, for sure. I get chills watching those scenes and the ones after.
guidinglightismylife 1 year ago
its gotta be mcdean! i love how when sarahs attacking craig, john paul shouts 'stop it your hurting him!' and drags sarah off craig, even though craig just broke his heart it shows how much he loves him!
JcLjx3 2 years ago 3
JP and Craig´s reveal. Hands down. Hollyoaks in its best days!
VariahR 2 years ago 4
I love both Luke&Noah and John Paul&Craig! But no comparison between them.
Maddie didn't react so bad like Sarah because Maddie and Noah weren't even together very long because she was on the rebound from her ex boyfriend. Sarah and Craig were together for a very long time and she really loved him.
So no comparison on how Maddie and Sarah found out about them.
15psyc 2 years ago 8
How can you compare the two? Don't get me wrong I love Van and I think his talent is wasted on ATWT. But the McDean s/l was so well written and very well acted. The Mcdean s/l is still the best soap s/l I have ever seen.
Greys4life 2 years ago 8
You´re so right - there´s no way to compare the two. The Mcdean storyline is better in so many ways. It´s a pitty they´re gone.
VariahR 2 years ago 3
HO always has to be so damn dramatic! I like Nuke better, but the seen with John Paul and Craig is just so powerful. You can´t deny that´s the best.
Still love Nuke!
DontSigh 2 years ago 4
I just love Darren (L) 'I didn't see that one coming'
The HO story was more dramatic but I do have to say Nuke FTW always
KtLS2006 2 years ago 3
@KtLS2006 Darren is the best! Always good for a laugh.
guidinglightismylife 1 year ago
that Sarah... totally went mad.. feel sorry for her
at least Maddie's not screamin' "He's been sleeping with his mate!! He's GAY!!!" to the crowd =D
StupidWiz 2 years ago 4
Hollyoaks hands down on this one.
It was just so well acted. By all of them. And, yes, VERY intense.
hypnotisedbabe 2 years ago 4
That McDean reveal was truly one of the best things I've seen on a TV show. It was crazy perfect. You really feel for all the characters even when Craig was being a jerk.
I don't think you can even compare Hollyoaks to a show like ATWT or any American daytime soap. Hollyoaks simply has better production values, sets, editing, writing, etc. ATWT couldn't even afford a scene like that.
kitkat9288 2 years ago 7
I'm a Nukie, but man, McDean had one helluva reveal! That was intense!
octogirlpretty 2 years ago 5
I always live reveals that have almost the whole town there so I believe Hollyoaks win. ATWT could have done a better job, Maddie didn't even see them kiss, she only got an implied response from Luke and that was it.
potterdraconius2 2 years ago
The thing is, is that I think out of the four, Van is the strongest actor, and Jake is the weakest. That's just my opinion, but I do think you can group Van, Guy, and James together, so I don't understand why everyone i saying that Hollyoaks acting is so much better. It's different characters and storylines, and each story is presented in its own way.
For soap operas, I think both are very realistic scenes.
I prefer Luke and Noah as a couple, but the Hollyoak scene wins hands down.
babiesweethart973 3 years ago 2
Also, I think the directing in the Hollyoaks scene was better. The camera angles, and the slow motion along is what made it so much more epic and rememberable. Not only that, but with Craig and John Paul, that scene was meant to be a climatic, but with Noah and Luke, it was only anticlimatic.
Guy's acting was impecable, and you can feel the pain seeping into your heart. It was meant to be a lot more subtle situation for Luke and Noah.
babiesweethart973 3 years ago 3
I retract my statement from almost a year ago. Although I said the Hollyoaks scene won, I said Luke and Noah were my prefered couple. That has since changed. Luke and Noah don't interest me anymore. However, McDean is still awesome.
Not that anyone really cares except me, but yeah... just thought I'd say it somewhere officially.
babiesweethart973 2 years ago 2
It´s the acting that was awesome in Mcdean. And the chemistry between the actors!! I tried to watch Luke and Noah more than once, but american soaps are just blah...and their acting made me "hmmm...do I really want to watch this?" No offense to Nuke fans, just my opinion!!
VariahR 2 years ago 5
It's funny, I used to like Luke and Noah better [as you can tell in some of my previous comments] but now I'm all for McDean :D
[Sarah still bugs me though lol]
Annaece 3 years ago 8
sarah annoys the hell out of me too... this was the only time in the whole mcdean SL i actually felt sorry for her! if you read some of the comments on mcdean videos, you'll see that she's not well liked at all!
Mcdeanerfan1 3 years ago 3
It's hard to choose between two such different situations.
Maddie is such a sweet, loving and understandinh woman who accepts how hard it is for Noah to accept his feelings for Luke, and she tries to help him even though she is deeply hurt by his lies.
With Sarah all she can see is the hurt, which is understandable considdering that she finds out at her engagementparty. And everyone finding out at the party just makes everything worse.
My favorite couple though is John Paul and Craig.
sarah4hp 3 years ago
i do like luke/noah, but i think the johnpaul/craig reveal is much better!
JantoFangirl 3 years ago
Lol you're probably right [anniemann101] I probably would go nuts...I guess it's just because I don't like Sarahi :)
Annaece 3 years ago
Luke/Noah all the way! I know people are saying that Luke/Noah is not as 'full on' as JPC but thats because in America its a new thing having a gay couple on daytime TV, so they are taking it slow. If it was in the UK that ATWT aired then Luke/Noah would be able to show their true magnificence/be more 'raw', but unfortunately thats not the case and they cant be AS raw, at least not RIGHT now, but they are getting better in what stuff they air of them. Both are great but Luke/Noah does it for me.
heathsluv 3 years ago
yet again Mcdean all the way. The Nuke/Maddie situation is a little too sutle for me. Although if both situations were real life you would want to find out the way maddie did and NOT how Sarah does!! The thing that blow me away with these scenes is Guy Burnet. OMG I so feel his pain as well as Sarah's ( great acting also to Loui Batley). In terms of having to out Craig in such a public way I was not liking JP for these reveal episodes but for the good of the soap it was done brillantly.
cd4jmp2sm 3 years ago 3
And to add to that, How can you even put Luke&Noah in the same acting acting capability to Craig/Jp????!!!!
xxxBehindBrownEyesxx 3 years ago 7
Sooooo! You walk in to your boyfriend and his best mate in an EXTREMLY tense situation and you 'act' like maddie?!
If you see the whole of this storyline you will understand why it is so, 'melodramatic'!
Guy & James are AMAZING actors, and, soooo, i hate to say, lol, is Loui Batley (Sarah)
xxxBehindBrownEyesxx 3 years ago 4
I always thought the music with the slow-motion at during the JP/C reveal was extremely poignant. Those violins, I don't know...
I vote McDean.
xHarryKrishna 3 years ago 3
clearly the jp and craig reveal is better - it had been building for so long! Its amazing! Over a year later Sarah (craig's girlfriend at the time) still hates jp.
I love Luke and Noah though :)
gingerkittee 3 years ago 6
Hmm...I'd go for ATWT, in my opinion it just seems a lot more believeable...
See girl's engaged and whatnot [yeahyeah] see her guy in bed with another guy she gets upset but they almost never cause a scene...
At least not that I've ever seen. I don't know. I just like ATWT better =]
Annaece 3 years ago
if u saw more of the craig john paul story line it would make a lot more sense
and honestly the acting in hollyoaks is far better than the acting in as the world turns =]
Ix3britishboys12 3 years ago 5
I've seen all of the C&JP storyline up to the point where Craig leaves.
I don't know.
ATWT is less dramatic while Hollyoaks is over the top. Maybe it's Sarah that ruined it for me...being all hysterical and whatnot. I hate it when people are hysterical. lol
Either way, I like both storylines ^_^
Annaece 3 years ago
soooooooooo sad, I'm crying :(
ZestyLemonBoi 3 years ago
heeyy...where can I find full vids of what happens after and stuff?
Mariangello 3 years ago
LOOL ATWT is soo calm and then it goes to hollyoaks and its people hitting and yelling at each other LOL
xxxx
TrueGothicBlue 3 years ago 4
"one day you just thought I wonder what the inside of John Pauls mouth tastes like?" lol I love that line ^_^
silkstars 3 years ago 5
I think I would act more like maddie. A man cant help who he falls in love with, but both Noah and Craig should have told the truth. I hate how Noah goes at Luke, though i do love that head wiggle by luke. and I hate how Craig reacted to what JP said.
blissfullycat02 3 years ago
I like Van Hansis(luke) as an actor, he is so believable, as is the one who plays JP, but the one who plays craig is kinda melodramatic and stuff. And Jake sibermann (noah) is great but not as good as Van with the melodrama, more scripted seeming. I liked both, this one is hard.
blissfullycat02 3 years ago 2
craig... melodramatic?
hahaha you're kinding Guy is a great actor
skinhugging 3 years ago 5
I am not saying he is bad, dont get me wrong, he is juat very expressive, sometimes too much. Maybe it is just the faces he makes, especially when he cried=) I say we ditch these and just qatch Queer as folk, Brian and Justin are hot enough we can forget the drama and watch 'em kiss and... well you know =) JK, I like these shows too much, they just dont show enough hot guys kissing and stuff lol.
blissfullycat02 3 years ago
Hhaha, I'm with you on wathing Brian and Justin.
But I actually like Craig's expresive faces, I think it what makes us really see what he's hurting inside. But that's me.
Woot-woot QAF!!
skinhugging 3 years ago
arent actos supposed to be overly dramatic? =]
Ix3britishboys12 3 years ago
not to the point of being unbelievable, or cheesy though!
blissfullycat02 3 years ago
i think i like luke and noah's scene more.. maddie was so shocked and emotional but not melodramatic
Undiscovereddaisy 4 years ago
Hollyoaks for sure. Some people have already talked about the differences in the male actors. I'll focus on the females. When Sarah found out her exressions and lines were very believable. Especially "so one day you just thought... how could you do this to me?!'"
Maddie however, her lines screamed "I read the script" to me. Especially "stop lying" and "you used me". Not believable at all imo.
I wish the American soaps will improve their believability in acting.
olio411 4 years ago 12
This is so intense.
Joeletaxys 4 years ago
American soaps are faster paced, with much shorter scenes and storylines. American men generally aren't protrayed as "criers." Van Hansis is actually pretty darn accurate in his protrayal of a gay teen in so many ways.
I love the guy that plays John Paul although he seems to cry alot. The "revelation" scene is a bit over the top and reminds of the death scene in "Carrie."
uthtown 4 years ago
I don't really thing that the hollyoaks scene is over the top, I actually think it's very accurate to the story. If you have seen hollyoaks, you know that Craig is in deep denial about his feelings and you know how afraid of the truth he is. When the truth comes out, his whole world just falls apart.
But it is A LOT more dramatic:0)
Mecaoni 4 years ago 23
Yes, much more history on Hollyoaks with these characters. When Maddie finds out about Noah, she has only been with him for a month and she's not in love with him, nor are Luke and Noah in love with each other at this point. Still, a year ago when Luke came out to his parents and Kevin, he never completely fell apart but was obviously very emotional in Van Hansis' protrayal
uthtown 4 years ago
I don't think John Paul cries a lot, I just think he cries a lot in public. Most guys will wait until they're completely alone before they let a tear fall. My girl friends and I talk about how our boyfriends seem to cry surprisingly a lot more than we do, lol.
stepha1231 4 years ago 3
I'll have to say Hollyoaks! Sorry but that was just the best coming out I've seen on TV.
trewingo01 4 years ago 26
2:05 noah's face just about made me cry. you could so tell he was hurt. this seems like forever ago! lol.
ladydevil44 4 years ago
Hollyoaks was certainly a lot more violent than Coronation, but Coronation made me cry a lot more.
calisuni 4 years ago
So much more drama on Hollyoaks
Mecaoni 4 years ago
omg so mcdean!!!
well im going to come to that conclusion in everything cause their the best !! :D:D
Dannii2oo7 4 years ago 6
but when I watch how these actor's (James n Guy) and the other actor's portray the characters it blew me away n I have been watching it whenever I get the chance, thanks to Nick aka da33431
me2me23 4 years ago 3
no contest Hollyoaks won, American soap actor's (some) are not to convincing enough when they act out their lines. American writer's come out with great story lines but when these "so called" actor's don't play the character right, they kill the story, not like the actor's in Hollyoaks. When I first came across it (Hollyoaks) on youtube, I thought, "oh, another soap and its in UK."
me2me23 4 years ago
I still love the way Van[luke] delivers the line"ever since ever since what..."
his facial expressions are amazing.
hannnnnnnnuh 4 years ago 3
I LOVED that part. It made me laugh
atwtfan1 4 years ago
Lmao after watching it so many times I can't help but laugh when Craig runs to Sarah, listen to the noise she makes haha!
minidixon 4 years ago 2
hihi, i know! ^^
Fias 4 years ago
Have Luke and Noah just kissed, nothing else.
CANDYANGEL2006 4 years ago
As of right now, yes, kissing is as far as they have gone. Their relationship is just about to start, so hopefully in the near future, they'll have sex.
bluemidnight02 4 years ago
Definitely Hollyoaks... That episode had me almost screaming on the couch. So intense...
But ATWT is just different; a totally different way of soapmaking (is that a word? :P). Still very enjoyable and great fun to watch!!
Sterre80 4 years ago 6
Hollyoaks, by far.
brit2112 4 years ago 6
Hollyoaks every time. That week was the most intense, exciting week I've ever seen. By far the best soap episodes ever.
guysbitch 4 years ago 12
It was the final weeks of Guy so he had to leave with a bang. One of my favorites as well :)
bluemidnight02 4 years ago
Hollyoaks by a mile. Truly heart stopping TV. And once again some amazing acting from James and Guy. I live in America and just wish the acting wasn't so cheesy on our SOAPS. Van and Jake look so weak in comparision.
1maxuk 4 years ago 14
True. ATWT has a great storyline going, but when you look at some of the scenes sometimes, It's over the line cheesy. Sometimes Noah can be sort of...weak when it comes to his lines. Not saying he's a bad actor. I happen to think Jake is a fantastic actor, but just the way the characters have to present themselves. Of course this is daytime and Hollyoaks is nighttime soap. I'm sure that is part of the difference.
bluemidnight02 4 years ago
@bluemidnight02 hollyoaks is basically daytime. the watershed(15+) is 9pm. so technically hollyoaks is okay for anyone under 15 to watch it.......
creamcrackable 1 year ago
hollyoaks by a land slide. It was so intense.
atwtfan1 4 years ago 5
definately hollyoaks, it wins hands down!! there was such a huge build up to that moment of evryone findin out
shooni85 4 years ago 5