why not implant stainless steel discs into the tops of the pistons for a plug to piston spark?? the burn could only be efficient and mpg would be at the highest right??
The 4 point cage would seem better, in case the ball falls off and it can just rattle in the cage and not destroy an engine. Would be interesting to see that method, but with the ball able to move around, just to see the affect, not necessarily useful though.
5% improvement is not bad if the cost is reasonable . add a few more improvements like synthetic oil and you are starting to save a lot of money at these gas prices
I talked to Krupas several months ago. I don't think his plug will ever go into production. A plug you can buy now, which produces about the same results is the Power Star. They will produce a real 5% improvement in efficency.
We are not working with the Firestorm plugs at the moment , we are testing a different plug . I did not try Pulstar plugs yet . we are waiting now for the next gen plasma driver to continue testing , ED2's Mad Hornet looks promising.
@MetallicAsian Krupas plug, Firestorm, looked like a cage,, four "quadrants" of wire meeting at the top dead center of plug. The spark took turns "sparking" to each of the four quadrants, randomly. He reports 30% increase in power and mileage.
Could you place a magnet near plug and repeat this test please ? it would be interesting to see if the spark runs towards the magnet , if any change is realized it may be that inserting a magnet in the piston crown would increase things a bit.
The acceleration of electrons due to the magnetic field would not be toward the magnet or away from it. It would be in a plane perpendicular to the magnetic field. Because the distance traveled by the spark is short. The effects of this acceleration would be all but unobservable.
The center electrode ball is tig welded and turned on a lathe before the outer cage is welded on . The carbon washer is only used to protect the ceramic insulator . I use nickel steel (material the regular spark plugs are made of) or beryllium copper for center ball
Do you have an instructional on how to make these? I have made myself some leads based on the Kiker wire design and would like to run these plugs with them.
My van developed problems I can't work around anymore.Looks like its time to rebuild the ford 460.The firestorm plugs work,I just can't tell how well because of the motor problems.I used a Holley 750 vacuum secondary with #57 primary jets (stock is #72)and drove 60mph,problems came with hills.The passenger exhaust would get red hot,I also have a slight miss and exhaust leak.
Since regular spark plugs tend to corrode and round-off, which was Krupa's initial inspriation... wonder what would happen if they took the ball-spark shape + PulStar's integrated capacitor design.
The plasma ball-spark would be enhanced by using a simple integrated capactor in the spark circuit to charge-discharge all that power, between spark-gap firings.
I think that when the plug is fired under pressure, (Krupa uses nitrogen to demonstrate) the plug creates plasma, rather than a spark. I'm not sure what voltage Krupa uses, but I think it is 100,000+
I wonder just how well the plug holds up in real life. Do the electrodes last as long as regular ones? Will it burn a hole in my pistons like Bosch and SplitFire can?
Does it REALLY increase MPG? How well does it work with Hydroxy?
I will know shortly how they hold up myself,after finishing up a few things first . The plug increases mileage by letting you burn a much leaner air/fuel mix (30/1 instead of 14/1)
I am now working on water injection so van is down.Will post mileage when I test again.Assembly photos are on - Yahoo Tech Groups- Waterfuel1978- Photos- Ball Spark Plug . Robin
I hope you made a spare! Take one of these, place it in a tube and Fire it with Cold Fog and your MSD! I hope to see if that is what we need for the Off the Shelf MSD type with your Replica. I can't wait!
For one thing it would be hard to control the gap and you would be limited to firing at TDC
moose532006 2 months ago
why not implant stainless steel discs into the tops of the pistons for a plug to piston spark?? the burn could only be efficient and mpg would be at the highest right??
bikr1975 2 months ago
What kinda material is the spherical electrode made of?
123frederikt 4 months ago
Awesome video I dont know why the automotive industry doesnt use this design, firestorm plugs and plasma spark technology. I smell a conspiricy
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The 4 point cage would seem better, in case the ball falls off and it can just rattle in the cage and not destroy an engine. Would be interesting to see that method, but with the ball able to move around, just to see the affect, not necessarily useful though.
HostileHST 5 months ago
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HostileHST 5 months ago
5% improvement is not bad if the cost is reasonable . add a few more improvements like synthetic oil and you are starting to save a lot of money at these gas prices
moose532006 10 months ago
I talked to Krupas several months ago. I don't think his plug will ever go into production. A plug you can buy now, which produces about the same results is the Power Star. They will produce a real 5% improvement in efficency.
jamesdond1 10 months ago
We are not working with the Firestorm plugs at the moment , we are testing a different plug . I did not try Pulstar plugs yet . we are waiting now for the next gen plasma driver to continue testing , ED2's Mad Hornet looks promising.
moose532006 10 months ago
Is it better than Pulstar plugs, or about the same?
JBC814 10 months ago
Have you got performance/fuel economy data?
justinjoyit13 1 year ago
@justinjoyit13 Without upgrading the ignition and only changing the plugs ,it added about 6% fuel economy on a Chevy 350 TBI
moose532006 1 year ago
hmmm, someone should design one with a cage
MetallicAsian 1 year ago
@MetallicAsian Krupas plug, Firestorm, looked like a cage,, four "quadrants" of wire meeting at the top dead center of plug. The spark took turns "sparking" to each of the four quadrants, randomly. He reports 30% increase in power and mileage.
I spoke with him last year about this.
Martin00028Guitar 1 year ago
d3ejmz I can't contact you through 3756robind try moose532006
moose532006 2 years ago
ngk makes asimilar plug the dynamics of that plug dont seemt o allow for good combustion
prototype9000 3 years ago
Could you place a magnet near plug and repeat this test please ? it would be interesting to see if the spark runs towards the magnet , if any change is realized it may be that inserting a magnet in the piston crown would increase things a bit.
robbosdog 3 years ago
I tried the plug next to a 150lb lift magnet and the plug didn't seem to care if the magnet was there or not.
3756robind 3 years ago
The acceleration of electrons due to the magnetic field would not be toward the magnet or away from it. It would be in a plane perpendicular to the magnetic field. Because the distance traveled by the spark is short. The effects of this acceleration would be all but unobservable.
CardinalRatslinger 2 years ago
@robbosdog it would need to be strong plasma to do that. But, cool idea.
kakarot1232001 1 year ago
But how are you able to weld anything to a carbon, thats the thing that still bugs me.
bolikasss 3 years ago
What are you using that has a center electrode made of carbon ? All my spark plugs have a metal center electrode.
3756robind 3 years ago
But the middle bit is carbon itself. How is it possible to weld a copper bit to it?
bolikasss 3 years ago
And what is the middle dome part made of?And its being fixed to carbon electrode? That confuses me the most.
bolikasss 3 years ago
The center electrode ball is tig welded and turned on a lathe before the outer cage is welded on . The carbon washer is only used to protect the ceramic insulator . I use nickel steel (material the regular spark plugs are made of) or beryllium copper for center ball
3756robind 3 years ago
Do you have an instructional on how to make these? I have made myself some leads based on the Kiker wire design and would like to run these plugs with them.
hg71kingswood 2 years ago
@3756robind Will you please try out the e3 spark plug in this way or in a tester?
lillskiten1337 3 months ago
My van developed problems I can't work around anymore.Looks like its time to rebuild the ford 460.The firestorm plugs work,I just can't tell how well because of the motor problems.I used a Holley 750 vacuum secondary with #57 primary jets (stock is #72)and drove 60mph,problems came with hills.The passenger exhaust would get red hot,I also have a slight miss and exhaust leak.
3756robind 3 years ago
Running very lean on that bank. Send me a private e-mail address please.
fabman61 3 years ago
Can you make more and sell it?
tiltfulll 3 years ago
My van has been down for a while.Should be ready tomorrow to test them on a 200 mile trip.I will know more later if they are worth making.
3756robind 3 years ago
Since regular spark plugs tend to corrode and round-off, which was Krupa's initial inspriation... wonder what would happen if they took the ball-spark shape + PulStar's integrated capacitor design.
The plasma ball-spark would be enhanced by using a simple integrated capactor in the spark circuit to charge-discharge all that power, between spark-gap firings.
DJ45DigiScientist 3 years ago
I think that when the plug is fired under pressure, (Krupa uses nitrogen to demonstrate) the plug creates plasma, rather than a spark. I'm not sure what voltage Krupa uses, but I think it is 100,000+
delquattro 3 years ago
I wonder just how well the plug holds up in real life. Do the electrodes last as long as regular ones? Will it burn a hole in my pistons like Bosch and SplitFire can?
Does it REALLY increase MPG? How well does it work with Hydroxy?
Zolar1 3 years ago
I will know shortly how they hold up myself,after finishing up a few things first . The plug increases mileage by letting you burn a much leaner air/fuel mix (30/1 instead of 14/1)
3756robind 3 years ago
How will you be able to adjust the A/F ratio?
How will you control cylinder heat so the pistons don't burn up?
Water vapor injection maybe?
Zolar1 3 years ago
I can adjust the jets in the carb and yes I am going to use water injection with a exhaust gas temperature probe
3756robind 3 years ago
Hi, I think you would benefit to look at my videos and come to the Overunity Forum to look at my circuit.
Luc
gotoluc 3 years ago
Robin
Nice work..looks good...can you explain somewhere how you make them...Pleassse
Thankyou for sharing.
Is it helping economy ?
quasarhi 3 years ago
I am now working on water injection so van is down.Will post mileage when I test again.Assembly photos are on - Yahoo Tech Groups- Waterfuel1978- Photos- Ball Spark Plug . Robin
3756robind 3 years ago
it look like normal spark too me. that spark can not explode mist water
dreamyear 3 years ago
Beautiful work, I hope there are plnty others out there doing te same.
Cheers
ozicell 3 years ago
I did the tube and cold fog today and it tried to put the spark out.So you still need the LV part of the spark to make this work with water. Robin
3756robind 3 years ago
Great job!!! Can you make me a set? I would like to buy some so I can test them in my truck. Call me if you can 417-251-1540.
Thanks and God Bless
rickthomp 3 years ago
I love to buy 4 for my old car too.
rmitoday 3 years ago
Good Job!
I hope you made a spare! Take one of these, place it in a tube and Fire it with Cold Fog and your MSD! I hope to see if that is what we need for the Off the Shelf MSD type with your Replica. I can't wait!
Ron
monkeyron 3 years ago