The original diver, can't remember name, dove in with her eyes open and it blinded her. We don't know the history of these horses after these dives. Nobody documented it. How do we know these horses also didn't go in with eyes open and went blind or worse??? People say this isn't cruel because the horse doesn't look bothered. Are you a vet and did you evaluate the horse after the jump? NO. And I'll bet neither did anyone else EVER!!! No report of injures so assume it's okay? NO!!
the horses belly's are very soft, a wrong inpact will cause internal damage and the organs to bleed. So yeah the horse may look like he is cool with it, but do you really know? How would you feel if you were sent up a long ramp with no other way out but to jump over a cliff? I cliff dove in hawaii and let me tell you, 12 feet of water on a 40ft drop is a painful hit to start
Actually, no horses were hurt doing this, but the RIDER hit the water wrong and went blind--and she kept doing the act, the horse runs up the ramp WITHOUT the rider and she had to listen to his hoof beats to judge when to jump on.
@sueotk2001 no horses that anyone knew of, honestly. now there are so many animal lovers that they will be watching very closely, if it even looks like a horse took a wrong hit, there is going to be hell to pay
lol this isnt cruelty!! the horse was trained to do this! It looked pleased with him/her self when it came out of the water.. stop freaking out the horse was fine(:
Im sure now if it was done yeah, it would be cruelty. Because the one training the horses wouldnt take the time to build the trust with them. I agree with other comments, I saw no whips,no spurs,not much fear in the horse.Mostly trust of the rider.&also I liked the point about horse racing. No horses were injured over the time this act took place. Horse racing injures as well as kills a lot of horses as well as riders. Sure I would like to see some sort of protection for the horses eyes though.
@Shandars1bella I used to own race horses when I was 13 and raced them till one day my favorite horse, my baby, took off out the the gate and I honestly don't know if it was a jockey error or he slipped, hit the gate or what, he fell and broke his leg very badly, I held his head while the vet put the deadlt needle in him and he went to sleep forever, 27 years later I still cry over that loss, I refuse to let anyone put a animal in danger from that day on! NO DIVING HORSES!
@taylortiger100 if it didnt want to, it wouldnt have. the horse never panicked or anything. the girl didnt force the horse to do it, no kicking or whips or anything. the horse enjoys its work
@bountybebie I guess racing them and breaking their legs is more humane. Never was a Horse injured diving and was much safer than racing, jumping and just plain riding. I wonder have you ever rode a horse?
it's normal for a horse to jump this way. it's in their instincts . and no they could NOT break their neck when they hit the water ... it's been a very popular sport in circus, in the 1950s but it was very dangerous for the human and not even a bit for the horse. it's not dangerous for the horse's eyes because they have the reflex to close it when they hit the water .. :P
The horse looked like he had performed that feat thousands of times. Most horses don't like jumping over ditches, much less off of anything like a platform. I just pray that he learned to do that because he had a really good trainer, rather than being forced, as in the use of an electric prod or something like that. Some horses and their riders do some crazy things, just because they can. And yes, she could be stepped on or trampled, but she's really a good rider.
@ConcoursMontmiens Je vois pas où est la bêtise, ça bousille moins les membres d'un cheval que de faire des concours de CSO ou de dressages, ou encore des puissances à 1m60 et on retrouve un cheval avec des molettes à 12 ans ;)
@Sultane06 Pour un travail aussi intense demandé, on s'occupe correctement des chevaux qui sautent aussi haut souvent, et je connais pas un cheval qui a des problèmes de locomotion a cause de ça ;) et la ca lui bousille pas les membres, ça lui bousille la tête.
@ConcoursMontmiens Tu sais quoi, tu peux penser ce que tu veux, j'ai mes raisons et mes savoirs sur les chevaux qui ont été confirmés par les plus grands, alors je ne perds plus mon temps à ce genre de commentaires. Mona.
my horses love swimming....but diving?.....i think my stallion would rather buck me off into cross country fences!!! (i dont think hell ever stop doing that...sigh..)
so i just found out about Diving horses, and i wish i was alive to see them in their hay day (pun really not intended). I don't think horse diving is cruel, i used to ride horses all the time, whipping them can be seen as cruelty. But riders still do it. I don't think its cruelty at all, for all we know those horses that still do it are having the time of their lives.
I dont think this is cruel at all. The horse is willing to do it, and no harm comes to them during it. More horses get injured on cross country jumps than any horses here. NO horses were ever injured diving, compared to todays sports.
yeah but the whole time these horses are gonna be crapping themselves ! they dont choose in the wild to go diving off a board ... they r forced to do this they dnt do it by choice ! it so so so CRUEL ! doesnt matter wot physical injuries the horse cud get point is wot mental state the horse is in afterwards ! also horses are actually nervous around water as they can't see for danger in the water so they tend to stay away from it this is totally cruel!
I think that is very amazing and I doubt the horse would do it if he did not want to. The could have gotten injured however had the horse refused to do it.
well i wont make a comment wether i think this is cruel as i have seen two horses jump like this of a river bank but they jumped from fear so i would like to know what they did in the first place to train these horses
It actually isn't cruel. Out of all the seventy years the act was around, not one horse was ever injured. Horse racing, on the other hand, injures and kills thousands and thousands of horses. Hhmm, which seems worse?
@hopelesslydevoted16 and the reason its obvious horses like running is that they run in the wild!!! and horses are always galloping around paddocks. pretty obvious!
yes swimming for horses is natural and if thats all the horse was doing then it would be fine!
horses dont naturally dive into water in the wild!
and in the information about this a lady that did it forgot to close her eyes once and went blind, horses dont know to close their eyes when diving from great heights so if a horse forgot to close its eyes the horse would go blind and all for some stupid act of entertainment.
@Gemimalee Yes, only the rider, Sonora Webster, was injured. Not the horse. You obviously didn't read my first comment well enough because out of all seventy years of the act, not one horse was injured in any way. That includes going blind. Thousands of horses die because of racing, not diving.
@Gemimalee Ha, that's funny. First of all, I never said you made anything up? Second of all, maybe you should learn to use grammar properly so that I could understand you. Your comments don't even make sense.
@Gemimalee Just because the majority of people think it's cruel doesn't mean it is. You're not making sense. You can't even type correctly hence why I am having a hard time understanding. And my name is from a song, idiot. We each are entitled to our own opinion, okay? That means I tcan hink I'm right and you can think you're right. There isn't anything wrong with that, geez.
@Gemimalee yes swimming for horses is natural and if thats all the horse was doing then it would be fine!
horses dont naturally dive into water in the wild!
and in the information about this a lady that did it forgot to close her eyes once @hopelesslydevoted16 and went blind, horses dont know to close their eyes when diving from great heights so if a horse forgot to close its eyes the horse would go blind and all for some stupid act of entertainment.
@amy1teto1jazzie1 I know! Horses in the racing business get injured all the time, and they are treated badly when not racing. Horses were never forced to dive and never got injured. Plus, horses back then did not get whipped.
Like if u thought that was cruel and abusive
LoveBrisco 2 days ago
this is so cruel. im glad they finally band this sport. it made the horses go blind from the force of when they hit the water
LoveBrisco 2 days ago
Das ist so absurt !!!
TheMariina98 5 days ago
why was this not bad back then but now
MichaelHansenFUN 1 week ago
that was fun i wanna do it again
Beth88892 1 week ago
wat in the world is this why would u do something like this it's dangerous!
zoha299 1 week ago
The original diver, can't remember name, dove in with her eyes open and it blinded her. We don't know the history of these horses after these dives. Nobody documented it. How do we know these horses also didn't go in with eyes open and went blind or worse??? People say this isn't cruel because the horse doesn't look bothered. Are you a vet and did you evaluate the horse after the jump? NO. And I'll bet neither did anyone else EVER!!! No report of injures so assume it's okay? NO!!
DragonsGait 2 weeks ago
the horses belly's are very soft, a wrong inpact will cause internal damage and the organs to bleed. So yeah the horse may look like he is cool with it, but do you really know? How would you feel if you were sent up a long ramp with no other way out but to jump over a cliff? I cliff dove in hawaii and let me tell you, 12 feet of water on a 40ft drop is a painful hit to start
asylem1961 2 weeks ago
u r so true that horser may not of looked bothered but some dont and they can still be hurt
bexandvonnie 2 weeks ago
I swear this is from a film...
cantandwont 3 weeks ago
There are so many close-minded idiots on here. This is cruelty.
AconiteAndCigarettes 3 weeks ago
how do you know this????
edandjanis 3 weeks ago
Actually, no horses were hurt doing this, but the RIDER hit the water wrong and went blind--and she kept doing the act, the horse runs up the ramp WITHOUT the rider and she had to listen to his hoof beats to judge when to jump on.
sueotk2001 3 weeks ago
@sueotk2001 no horses that anyone knew of, honestly. now there are so many animal lovers that they will be watching very closely, if it even looks like a horse took a wrong hit, there is going to be hell to pay
asylem1961 2 weeks ago
I rekon it is cool, but it is bad if the horse gets to much water in their ear, and that is a perfect opportunity for it to happen,...
TheRangaFish 4 weeks ago
Its bade for the horse to get water in their ears!!!!
84horsecrazy 1 month ago
@84horsecrazy Have you idiots ever seen a horse drink water?
iatrestman 2 weeks ago
@iatrestman Um yes but there whole body don't go in the bucket your the idiot!
84horsecrazy 2 weeks ago
Thats epic, and the horse doesnt care
LydzTWyliex 1 month ago
that is crazy!
nataliewilsonx 1 month ago
im not sure whether or not to laugh or cry or both.... that was the weirdest thing i've ever seen.
xEquestrian13x 1 month ago
the worst sport ever
ThePowerofmusic123 1 month ago
lol this isnt cruelty!! the horse was trained to do this! It looked pleased with him/her self when it came out of the water.. stop freaking out the horse was fine(:
xxnikonxx1 2 months ago
Im sure now if it was done yeah, it would be cruelty. Because the one training the horses wouldnt take the time to build the trust with them. I agree with other comments, I saw no whips,no spurs,not much fear in the horse.Mostly trust of the rider.&also I liked the point about horse racing. No horses were injured over the time this act took place. Horse racing injures as well as kills a lot of horses as well as riders. Sure I would like to see some sort of protection for the horses eyes though.
RideLifeAway 2 months ago
i dont get this.. doesnt seem right to me ! hate horse racing to.
Shandars1bella 2 months ago
@Shandars1bella I used to own race horses when I was 13 and raced them till one day my favorite horse, my baby, took off out the the gate and I honestly don't know if it was a jockey error or he slipped, hit the gate or what, he fell and broke his leg very badly, I held his head while the vet put the deadlt needle in him and he went to sleep forever, 27 years later I still cry over that loss, I refuse to let anyone put a animal in danger from that day on! NO DIVING HORSES!
asylem1961 2 weeks ago 3
omg!
VERY BAD!!!
I DONT UNTERSTAND IT !!
FUCKING PEOPLE!!
PrimoSuechtig 2 months ago
The things horses will do for us
Rdenna2006 2 months ago 2
Dont get why people are calling it cruelty cos since the horses were babys they have been trained to this, Like showjumping!!
TheRitchbitch98 3 months ago
this is animal cruelty, i almost cried because i dout that horse wanted to jump from 50 ft in the air and plunge under the water, mean!!!!
taylortiger100 3 months ago
@taylortiger100 if it didnt want to, it wouldnt have. the horse never panicked or anything. the girl didnt force the horse to do it, no kicking or whips or anything. the horse enjoys its work
QueenOfBreyers 3 months ago
the horses is zo happy
didedo98 3 months ago
english......................
edandjanis 3 months ago
OMG Poor horse! :(
Why in the world are so stupid people like them?? :(
What did that horse did for such a bad life??
PinkyShit98 3 months ago
men vafan!?!?!?!??!?!?!
man ska recpektera hästarna! inte använda dom som badleksaker.... -.-
Hannsii98 3 months ago
wtf! the poor horse
bountybebie 4 months ago
@bountybebie I guess racing them and breaking their legs is more humane. Never was a Horse injured diving and was much safer than racing, jumping and just plain riding. I wonder have you ever rode a horse?
marcusdolby1 3 months ago
it's normal for a horse to jump this way. it's in their instincts . and no they could NOT break their neck when they hit the water ... it's been a very popular sport in circus, in the 1950s but it was very dangerous for the human and not even a bit for the horse. it's not dangerous for the horse's eyes because they have the reflex to close it when they hit the water .. :P
captiveHorse 4 months ago
the horses could break there neck when they hit the water
PolkaDotPony6777777 4 months ago
The horse looked like he had performed that feat thousands of times. Most horses don't like jumping over ditches, much less off of anything like a platform. I just pray that he learned to do that because he had a really good trainer, rather than being forced, as in the use of an electric prod or something like that. Some horses and their riders do some crazy things, just because they can. And yes, she could be stepped on or trampled, but she's really a good rider.
walk4trot2canter3 4 months ago
holy shit! thats just idiotic!
MyaXXKristin 5 months ago
isn't that dangerous?
HorseLuverTheMost 5 months ago
La bétise humaine .. Heureusement qu'aujourd'hui il existe des lois pour les protéger ..
ConcoursMontmiens 5 months ago
@ConcoursMontmiens Je vois pas où est la bêtise, ça bousille moins les membres d'un cheval que de faire des concours de CSO ou de dressages, ou encore des puissances à 1m60 et on retrouve un cheval avec des molettes à 12 ans ;)
Sultane06 5 months ago
@Sultane06 Pour un travail aussi intense demandé, on s'occupe correctement des chevaux qui sautent aussi haut souvent, et je connais pas un cheval qui a des problèmes de locomotion a cause de ça ;) et la ca lui bousille pas les membres, ça lui bousille la tête.
ConcoursMontmiens 4 months ago
@ConcoursMontmiens ça lui bousille les deux.
Sultane06 4 months ago
@Sultane06 ouai en fait t'as pas d'arguments pour te défendre parce que t'as tort, laisse tomber .
ConcoursMontmiens 3 months ago
@ConcoursMontmiens Tu sais quoi, tu peux penser ce que tu veux, j'ai mes raisons et mes savoirs sur les chevaux qui ont été confirmés par les plus grands, alors je ne perds plus mon temps à ce genre de commentaires. Mona.
Sultane06 3 months ago
my horses love swimming....but diving?.....i think my stallion would rather buck me off into cross country fences!!! (i dont think hell ever stop doing that...sigh..)
berryfathusky 6 months ago
Thats awesome!!!!! My horses would never do that!!!! Does anyone know if there trained to not breath under water??!
TheABLTZ 6 months ago
@TheABLTZ
It's just a natural instinct for all mammals to hold their breath underwater (:
CanteringLullaby 6 months ago
so i just found out about Diving horses, and i wish i was alive to see them in their hay day (pun really not intended). I don't think horse diving is cruel, i used to ride horses all the time, whipping them can be seen as cruelty. But riders still do it. I don't think its cruelty at all, for all we know those horses that still do it are having the time of their lives.
Neonzheart 9 months ago
weird, but not cruel. if the horse didn't want to do it he wouldn't have.
wilkinziz 9 months ago
....you people know horse racing could also be considered abuse too, right?
kaymm93 9 months ago
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Maya120398 9 months ago
animal abuse!!!
TheCent1298 9 months ago
I dont think this is cruel at all. The horse is willing to do it, and no harm comes to them during it. More horses get injured on cross country jumps than any horses here. NO horses were ever injured diving, compared to todays sports.
ridersam123 10 months ago
do not know,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
edandjanis 11 months ago
@edandjanis do not know why u used commas,,,,,,,
wahoobuckaroo 1 month ago
is that the new drowning pool song "Let the Horses Hit the Water"?
KidChaos5150 11 months ago
yeah but the whole time these horses are gonna be crapping themselves ! they dont choose in the wild to go diving off a board ... they r forced to do this they dnt do it by choice ! it so so so CRUEL ! doesnt matter wot physical injuries the horse cud get point is wot mental state the horse is in afterwards ! also horses are actually nervous around water as they can't see for danger in the water so they tend to stay away from it this is totally cruel!
huggabubbleable1 1 year ago
And the horse just walks away like a badass.
recurveninja 1 year ago 13
Wow, that horse clearly knows what it is doing. Not sure why I kept watching this 20 times over and over again? Very interesting.
CinntiSurf 1 year ago
THATS MEAN
dudley111199 1 year ago
Ha awesome and the horse didn't look that bothered
BelsieElsie 1 year ago 4
This used to be legal but then animal rights activists pushed for it to be banned at some point. Does look pretty dangerous...
narwhal17 1 year ago
Wow that's amazing! But what's with the music?
dertrix37 1 year ago
I wish I had lived in that time, according to reports .. SONORA webster diver was special because he was blind.
a beautiful story of overshoot, where the spirit goes beyond the limits of the body. I love horses, and believe that they suffered from this.
naza871 1 year ago
not cruel...horses are natural swimmers...many love the water...
missbabineaux 1 year ago
I think that is very amazing and I doubt the horse would do it if he did not want to. The could have gotten injured however had the horse refused to do it.
dertrix37 1 year ago
well i wont make a comment wether i think this is cruel as i have seen two horses jump like this of a river bank but they jumped from fear so i would like to know what they did in the first place to train these horses
horseprotector 1 year ago
this is so stupid!
Gemimalee 1 year ago
Saw this dozens of times at The Steel Pier in AC and thought this was normal entertainment.Have times have changed.
Mannix08215 1 year ago 3
@Mannix08215 ...............i don't understand your comment.........are you saying i should not have submitted it or what? ed ball
edandjanis 1 year ago
omgi ove that!!! love horse look like he was like trained and having fun almost!!! :L paha im gonna get killed for tht x
ineedahorse 1 year ago
It actually isn't cruel. Out of all the seventy years the act was around, not one horse was ever injured. Horse racing, on the other hand, injures and kills thousands and thousands of horses. Hhmm, which seems worse?
hopelesslydevoted16 1 year ago 46
@hopelesslydevoted16
how would you or anyone know what the horse is thinking.
no horse is going to like face planting water. it doesnt take a smart person to figure that out
and horses enjoy racing and their made to run so which one is more natural for horses would be a more intelligent answer
Gemimalee 1 year ago
@Gemimalee I could say the exact same to you. How do you know if a horse likes running? They naturally know what to do in water, so it is natural.
hopelesslydevoted16 1 year ago
@hopelesslydevoted16 and the reason its obvious horses like running is that they run in the wild!!! and horses are always galloping around paddocks. pretty obvious!
Gemimalee 1 year ago
yes swimming for horses is natural and if thats all the horse was doing then it would be fine!
horses dont naturally dive into water in the wild!
and in the information about this a lady that did it forgot to close her eyes once and went blind, horses dont know to close their eyes when diving from great heights so if a horse forgot to close its eyes the horse would go blind and all for some stupid act of entertainment.
Gemimalee 1 year ago
@Gemimalee Yes, only the rider, Sonora Webster, was injured. Not the horse. You obviously didn't read my first comment well enough because out of all seventy years of the act, not one horse was injured in any way. That includes going blind. Thousands of horses die because of racing, not diving.
hopelesslydevoted16 1 year ago
@hopelesslydevoted16 yes i know so what!
read my comment properly and maybe realise wat i actually said not make something up!
imnot having an argument with u if your going to be plain ignorant
Gemimalee 1 year ago
@Gemimalee Ha, that's funny. First of all, I never said you made anything up? Second of all, maybe you should learn to use grammar properly so that I could understand you. Your comments don't even make sense.
hopelesslydevoted16 1 year ago
@hopelesslydevoted16 they dont make sense coz your an idiot.
and i said you made it up not that you said i did!
hence why your name on youtube is hopeless!
this is the last comment im making coz this is a waste of my time.
now to prove my point have you noticed that the majority of people commenting on this think its cruel so obviously your wrong!
end of discussion!
Gemimalee 1 year ago
@Gemimalee Just because the majority of people think it's cruel doesn't mean it is. You're not making sense. You can't even type correctly hence why I am having a hard time understanding. And my name is from a song, idiot. We each are entitled to our own opinion, okay? That means I tcan hink I'm right and you can think you're right. There isn't anything wrong with that, geez.
hopelesslydevoted16 1 year ago
@Gemimalee yes swimming for horses is natural and if thats all the horse was doing then it would be fine!
horses dont naturally dive into water in the wild!
and in the information about this a lady that did it forgot to close her eyes once @hopelesslydevoted16 and went blind, horses dont know to close their eyes when diving from great heights so if a horse forgot to close its eyes the horse would go blind and all for some stupid act of entertainment.
Gemimalee 1 year ago
@hopelesslydevoted16 thankyou :) its so silly because it jumped on its own and was fine but in racing they force the horses and they end up dying
amy1teto1jazzie1 4 months ago
@amy1teto1jazzie1 I know! Horses in the racing business get injured all the time, and they are treated badly when not racing. Horses were never forced to dive and never got injured. Plus, horses back then did not get whipped.
hopelesslydevoted16 4 months ago
O M G. That's so..stupid, And more than cruel !!!!!
TheSong74 1 year ago
OHHHH LE GROS MONTAGE :O
p0vre2m0i 1 year ago
@p0vre2m0i Un montage ?
TheSong74 1 year ago
!!!!! wow
dillenrocksyep 1 year ago
Soo cool thx for posting!!!
bigdread2 1 year ago
that looks like the biggest rush ever
beaum1cah 1 year ago
O_O
iIixr 1 year ago
That is the craziest thing I have ever seen! I have horses and I don' t think I could ever make them do that seems a lil cruel but idk weird!
Bellzee18 1 year ago 19
MAAN QUE PERFECT
HipicaBrasil 2 years ago