Episoded II The Return of the 1903 Wagner Motor

[piper4seeformerly]

this is strange. I'm assuming this is an AC motor, but it has an armature. Does the armature simply help it get started until a centrifugal switch disconnects it? Is it a 3 phase motor? I'm guessing it's a 1 phase.

[1944johndeerel]

@piper4seeformerly its a dual voltage single phase motor currently wired for 110V ac. it operates very much like a squirel cage induction motor except in how it starts. it creates a magnetic field in the rotor that opposes the magnetic field in the main coils to get it running then it runs like a normal induction motor. but the repulshion motors use least amount of power to get started and have more starting torque thanother types of single phase motors but capacitor motors replaced them

[morpheusduvall]

Thanks for the video, hopefully I can figure out how to reverse my 1 hp Wagner from this.

[1944johndeerel]

@morpheusduvall you can reverse other types of motors if you know how they operate

[Aussie50]

Very nice!, I love the way the rotor wobbles axially for a bit then finds its magnetic center!

[1944johndeerel]

@Aussie50 yeah it probably could use a couple new thrust washers. but it runs strong.

[zookeeper1959]

i have an emerson fan (old) that blows backwards. i wonder if the direction can be changed in a like manner. i will try it when i get time.

[1944johndeerel]

i have heard that before! the way to fix that particular situation is to dissasemble your motor and (depending on how early it is) : flip your stator windings around so they face the opposite direction or just switch both your endcaps on the motor to the opposite side whichever works for you! i did this with a cheap modern fan i call my beat up backwards fan. it will not harm the motor if you do it correctly! and im sure you will!

[fedora1001]

It seems that the start up was a little slower after being reversed.

[1944johndeerel]

because the brushes get carbon buildup on one side from constantly being run in one direction. if i cleaned the brushes it would have worked better!

[fedora1001]

Okay cool. I guess a regular brush motor would do the same. I think I noticed that on a reversible high speed motor once.

Thanks.

[1944johndeerel]

yep!

[just2amuse]

Have any 1/2 HP @ 1125-1175 RPM interested in parting with? I need one for a restoration project, good running shape. Repulsion start would be a plus.

[1944johndeerel]

sorry i do not have any motors for sale

[Blonde7362]

Great to see these old motors saved and running. Not many of this age left in the UK now. Please post some more!

[1944johndeerel]

i have posted all my current motors. if i find anymore ill post them!

[coolbluelights]

Man I love that motor!! when I get my washer motor off for maintenence I'll make a vid of it ^^

[1944johndeerel]

im glad my grandpa found it and saved it all these years! i really dont even think he knows why he saved it!

[NathanH5]

This motor does have a cool sound, especially when starting up! Nice running sound too! These repulsion-start motors are just plain awesome! Wish they still made them!

[1944johndeerel]

Me Too!

[gummobg73]

Mount a fan blade on that sucker. I bet it would crank out some serious air. hehe

[1944johndeerel]

well not really any more than a modern motor. it runs at a constant 1750 rpm's thats a very standard speed for motors!

[jacebigelow]

I don't have an antique electric motor, but I have an antique hit & miss engine.

[1944johndeerel]

cool lets see! ihave about 20 of them! i just havent had time to get any out this year! ill try to get my dads restored mogual 2 1/2hp out

[mturgeon2]

Now take a VFD to this thing and let's see how fast she goes! :)

Just kidding, wouldn't want to wreck what is in fact a VERY nice motor!

[1944johndeerel]

i keep this one coverd up as it is in excellent condition!

[mylesgifford123]

do you think this can be done with the motor on my homart window fan it has the starting switch in the motor

[1944johndeerel]

pm me with all the details from your motors tag and ill look it up or suggest how to reverse it!

[krankiev]

Very cool feature. I don't perfectly understand how it works, but it sorta makes sense.

[1944johndeerel]

well ill try and explaine it, as soon as i understand how to explain it myself! its kind of hard to explain! but to change the direction of any induction motor you simply change the direction the motor is started! ill explain later and prove it!