Obama Released CIA Torture Memos...Is it Fair?

[Bugsybugs97]

This is the Koran,,, Surah 9:123 "O'ye who believe' fight these of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harhness in you, and know that allah is with these who keep their duty"....How is that the word of God?? Jesus Christ wouldn't even let his disciples kill the romans who took him for his crucifiction.Jesus christ is a role model on how we're suppose to live our life's Jesus taught us to love our enemies as well..But the koran contradicts the new testament of God..

[th3octagon]

Right so you say its fair? So what we brough 9/11 on ourselfs? Its people like u who are getting our troops killed by saying we torture the enemy reads this and pisses them off even more and gives them more modivation to kill our troops its you and the liberial media who are getting our troops killed and releasing the memos? Obama was a jackass thats the equivalent of a offense on a football team giving the defense their playbook and just the fact u listen to michael moore shows me ur education

[DiceWarwick]

if the republicans played along with Obama, and did not stand in his way every time he made a move, I have no doubt that this might have been kept under the table. A privet investigation.

Lets not forget the when the evidents of torture was discovered year back, it was the solders that were punished. Thrown under the buss you can say.

[Bugsybugs97]

People need to get familiar with EUGENICS..Read books about it, google it, watch youtube videos on it, whatever just do ur research and see for yourself..

[Bugsybugs97]

Now if people want to talk about corrupted administrations, if u ask me, i think all governments in the world are corrupted..People with power are corrupted, and greedy..It even happens on the job site.. U give an individual a little authority like a management position and pretty soon the guy u once knew as a humble guy, turns into a liar, tells u ur getting a raise but u never get it, walks with his chin up, fires hard working people to prove he's boss, cheats on wife, and etc.

[Bugsybugs97]

And for the record i'm not republican nor' a bush supporter , nor' did i hate bush..I just use logic. i support who ever has the best ideology for america..Democratic or republican..Although lately, i mostly agree with republican ideologys. Democrats just seem to be too open, and accepting of things, as if they want to please everyone..Sure this is a country of democracy but there needs to be boundries as well..U can;t please everyone..

[Bugsybugs97]

Also people love to criticise bush on how he spends so much money on war,, so people decided to vote for obama who said he would end the war.But if u pay attention he's just going to redirect the war from Iraq to affgan...And now obama is seeking for a billion dollars for military funding! despite the bad economy..Again folks,this guy is ruining america.But hey that's what people get for voting for him...

[Bugsybugs97]

On the military troop aspect, alot of people like to blame bush for the loss of u.s. soldiers.. But all these people who cry about bring the troops home are mostly parents/family members of troops.And chanting "bring the troops home" is selfish in their part.Because most of my family has been or is in the military stationed in iraq.And the soildiers i know don't wanna come home.They tell me,they love fighting for their country and alway's sound excited and eager to go back to war.

[Bugsybugs97]

A true christian will not preach race supremacy, or condem anyone..But i guess this is all that hussin obama believe's.That so called church he attended for years says alot about obama.Since obama says he's christian, that alone makes him a liar...

[Bugsybugs97]

Despite all that terrorist are capable of doing, hussein obama seem's as if he want's to give these extremist's some right's..That is weak!...What's next with this democratic president? The approval of nationwide same sex marrige, More born alive abortion's,, wait a minute, i thought he was christian, I guess not..His rev. Jeramiah wright was to busy preaching black supremacy, and wishing for the condemnation of america..Wow!that's not christian at all..

[Bugsybugs97]

Obama is clearly fucking up america..Exposing u.s. torture techniques only gives enemy country's a chance to create some sort of military training program for torture survival..No america is not safe with this idiot pesident who people love to praise/worship..If torturing are the only means of getting info from terrorist suspect's why not torture? Their still alive..Unlike terrorist who will bomb and kill americans only because they want to spread their islamic believe's..

[DeadlyBusiness]

I think Obama is putting "Change" into effect but only time will tell how well he does. It's only been 3 months out of the 4 years he has. I will pass my true judgment in 2012.

It is beneath Americans supporting criminals.

Bush is a man who committed a crime who happens to be a Republican. It's not the entire parties fault

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 lmfao..... dude you need a towel to dry up your brainwashed head obama is just a puppet HAHHAHAHA he holds no real power ... a president is just there to take the blame and btw stop making islam look bad real islam teaches peace. GOODFIGHT SIR/LADY

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains Don't blame me for making islam look bad, blame the extremists who actually read the koran..Surah says it all..No peace there...And yes the president is a puppet, but that doesn't justify him for being a liar.Obama lacks the audacity to tell the people the truth, which makes him another liar on the list.There's no excuse..So tell me something i don't know.

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 so your saying islam is the only religion wich has bad people in it? hahahaha im sure u dont go to christian videos and leave bad comments behind, hypocrit.

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains I never said islam is the only religion with bad people.Read carefully. And for the record, i have muslim friends who are peaceful people.But the truth is, that peaceful muslims are really not what islam is all about. The koran talks of peace amongst muslims or people that want to learn about islam.But when it comes to the so called infidels it gets pretty nasty..hypocrite? you call me a hypocrite based on assumption? smart!. now let me ask.u, what is a christian to u?

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 first of all , islam means literally peace.

and being a muslim means submittin your self to god.

and islam teaches not to call the *non believers* bad names because they might curse allah and that is forbidden, and a non believer can always become a believer thats why we dont go outside and kill non believers as you like to think...

and yes the non believer that plots plans to destroy islam and muslims are considered enemies.

and which christian are you talking about?

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 the ones that believe in the original bible or the new testament believers?

the torah and the original bible and the quran are the 3 books of god, but to bad that the bible has been rewritten by humans. therefor its invalid to me, and cannot be considered as the book of god.

why is it that in the new testement jesus is potrayed as god? and in the old it clearly says jesus is a prophet and a messenger and not god.

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains Christians are those who believe that jessus christ is God and believe in the word he gave us, which is the new testament..Think about it, christians are believers of christ ..Catholics, Jw's, mormons, jews, and etc. are not christians. Catholics pray to saints..Jw's, mormons, and jews don't believe that jessus is God..

Now, before i go on and teach u more, where exactly in the old testament does it say "jessus is a prophet and not God"??????????????

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 how can jesus be god if he him self said worship god and not me im only a prophet and a messenger. you need to stop reading the new testament. and btw show me where it says that jesus said he was god in the old bible .. you cant cause it isnt in there and btw if jesus was god , how can jesus die ? so your saying god is mortal? nice blashemy i bet you aint even religious your just some brainwashed kid or you are payed by zionists to say this nonsense.

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 you are a so called christian why your asking me about the old testament? hahahhahahahah dude please.... you are really blind/deaf/stupid get is straight jesus is a prophet and a messenger and not god, its time you really analyze wat you believe in because you are so far off....

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains you got me! i'm a kid..You on the other hand, sound like a very mature adult, based on the comments you've posted (wink)..The reason i'm asking u about the old testament is because i want you to point out the verse that says "jessus is a prophet and not God"..So do me a favor and give me the verse that says that..As for Jesus being God, there is plenty of verses where he implies that he is God.That's the whole reason why Jesus got crucified

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains Jessus got crucified because he walked around town implying to be the almighty God and Jews did not believe that he was God.And if u actually read the bible u would know that he ressurected from his death, which means he didn't really die, he just performed another miracle. Did muhammed ever ressurect? did he ever bring people back from the dead? did angels serve muhammed? no prohpet, nor person can ever posses the power to bring the dead back to life.

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains When moses saw the burning bush and heard a voice comming from that bush, Moses asked for the voices name and the voice replied " I AM" which was God talking in the old testament. In the new testament there's a story where they ask Jesus for his name and he replies "I AM"..What does that tell u? u think he just said it to mess around? If ur planning to ask me "how can 1 God be 3?" easy..If u have an apple, and cut it into 3 slices, how many apples do u have?

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains U say jessus said himself not to worship him( which is from the koran, not the bible), but in the the bible he says to believe in him and his word only, because he is the only way to get to God. Not through buddah, shiva, Joseph smith, muhammed, and etc.

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains Jesus Christ gave his word...God does not need a 2nd or 3rd messenger to add to Jesus christ's word..God doesn't make mistakes! that's logical...Jessus also warns us about false prophets who are comming in his name..God also says that the devil will disguise himself as an angel of light!! And what happend about 1000 yrs later??? Muhammeds word was inspired by an angel that totally contradicts the word of christ.Wake that brain of urs up! and do some real reasearch.(wink)

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 first of all the prophet mohammed was mentioned in the bible but i guess you never read the bible before i bet you get your false information straight from youtube videos. im done discussing with you.. in the end well see who is right and who is not. PEACE

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains That's a typical muslim  pedi attempt to make the prohecies foretold in the bible fit muhammed...Muhammed is never mentioned in the bible. It is Jesus who is the subject of the many prophecies in bible and not Muhammad. The koran is erroneous! Read the Bible carefully

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains But if u really believe that muhammed is mentioned in the Bible, because ur koran says so..Then prove to me where muhammed is mentioned in the Bible..I can guarantee u,,,, u won't be able to..

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains like i said Jesus did say "if any man or angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be eternally condemed." (Galatians 1:8-9.).. About 1000 yrs. later, the koran comes along, inspired by an"angel" that contradicts the word of jesus..In the bible 1 Peter 1: 23, it says, Gods word is eternal..So, how can the koran be true, when it contradicts the new testament of God??????????? Good luck!

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 and again you recite the new testement hahahahahahahh

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains Is that it!! is that all u had to say!! i can see that u can't make a comeback! well, what can i say, you've failed to prove me wrong..If u actually had a brain capable of using logic, then you would be able to comprehend the fact that the koran is not the word of God..Let me tell u, If muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet from God, then muslims must follow what jesus said in the new testament! But, the Koran contradicts jesus in surah, which makes the koran invalid. (wink)

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 because your to afraid to recite the old bible cause it contradicts the new testement, and like i said b4 we will know who is right in the end , untill then goodluck.

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains The old bible??? u mean the King James Version, because both the King James Version and the NIV are translations from the original manuscripts.Since u obviously don't know , the original manuscripts were in hebrew. KJV and NIV differ slightly.KJV is a word for word translation, and the NIV was made easier for the reader to understand in which verses use basic wording. But yet, u show me no prove..Ur no challenge. Come on mann!! where's ur ammo??

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains Seems that u have nothing more to say and no prove at all. Muslims love to believe that the koran is perfect with no contradictions, But In Surah 19:67, it states that man was created out of nothing. And In 15:26, man is created from clay. how do u explain that?????????????????????????

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 first of all you mis quoting the koran. allah says BE and it BECOMES.

no contradictions in the koran. the koran is never been rewritten or changed after it came down to us unlike your *new testament* you think that jesus is god we call that blashemy

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains (smile).. i just gave u two verses in the koran that contradict each other. Again,In Surah 19:67, it states that man was created out of nothing. In 15:26, man is created from clay. Since clay is something, we have a contradiction....U need to open your eyes and step out of islam, it's erroneous, and false.

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 you didnt understood it right wat the koran means with that .. is that man was nothing then god created man HE said be and then they became *something* no contradictions in the koran stop trying to tell me otherwhise.

[Bugsybugs97]

@unwashedbrains So, man WAS nothing??? Sounds like "NOTHING" is "SOMETHING" !! Do u know what i mean??? If the koran says man was first created by clay!! then man couldn't have been NOTHING NOR SOMETHING before God created us with clay !! because man was not in existence before our creation! secondly, the koran also says we were created by a SPERM DROP! ( Surah 16:4 )...Explain that to me...

[unwashedbrains]

@Bugsybugs97 lets drop this *conversation* and in the end we will see who is right and who is not. peace brother.

[donovanr6]

Rise above politics man, IT"S BULLSHIT!!!!!

Look beyond the game pulled over your face.

Do you really think Obama is running the country?

Do you remember seeing those hacked-up torsos hanging from the bridges in Iraq? Those motherfuckers give us the "red cross" treatment when they hold us captive right? They don't cut our heads off, or torture us, do they????

[DeadlyBusiness]

I know but we have our own laws. And us getting on their level is beneath us.

[DeadlyBusiness]

My wife is an Eastern Star!

I mess with her about that from time to time.

[DeadlyBusiness]

Thanks!

Speaking your mind is a DeadlyBusiness!

[1brightstar148]

I think that you rule man! Finally I hear someone with a clear view. Keep it up. World has to know the truth.