@girlymctx Don't be an idiot all of your life. It would take the Palestinians 60 years to kill as many as the IDF did during OCL which lasted only 3 weeks. Wanna see the math? Plenty stats to back me up! So, twat, you were saying?
I'm just sick and tired of apologists for State violence against innocent civilians. People that call for genocide against Arabs, those people truly are no better than Nazis. All fascists sicken me. When Jesus came to the world he gave us a new commandment, TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO MAKE LOVE BE YOUR LAW?
How easy it is to kill history, to delete the narrative of Gaza's tragedy, to avoid an ugly irony! Gaza exists because the Palestinians who lived in Ashkelon & the fields around it (Askalaan in Arabic) were forced from their lands when Israel was violently imposed: tinyurl . com / 75elt4
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist..." [Moshe Dayan, April 4, 1969]
It's about time Israel stops these ANIMALS!! The animal terrorist palestinians hide between children and then complain when children are killed... live like a man and come out if you really care! Israel MUST protect herself... and will prevail. KILL THEM JUST LIKE U.S.A KILLED SADDAM!!!
No one buys Israeli BS about Hamas launching 'bombs' (that are nothing more than glorified fireworks) into Israel. In fact Hamas's rocket attack was in direct response to the closure of Gaza by the Jewish state terrorists. Palestinians were eating out of garbage dumps because no food was allowed in Gaza due to the Zionist closure. Hamas responded to Zionist provocation and its the latter's breakage of yet another ceasefire! Israel has no honour nor dignity when it comes to keeping peace treaties
Zionist, zionist, zionist. Why is that? That attitude alienates israel even more, it would continue its activities & regard its personal protection with fierce response from anybody who threaten it as it is justifiably paranoid since all the people around it are talking about the annihilation of the "zionist" people from the map.
let me ask you one more thing, hamas was voted in, it should be mindful of its people, then why do they launch rockets very close to schools and other residential areas?
And you know what? If they can get rockets, why cant they get food for palestine instead? Simply because, all they want is war, for israel to retaliate and for them to cry foul when they get hit. Well, they have what they wanted. That is why no one buys the BS from hamas, that is why they dont get much sympathy from the world.
so stop trying to promote your views, we can think for ourselves. You posting all these comments wont sway out opinion unless hamas does the right thing in the world view. That is why you see these type of reaction here on youtube, the world is actually just standing back and watching israel take out hamas & its infrastructure.
next time these palestenian morons think of killing israelis with there "glorified" fire works, they should remember this day. this is the language these blood thirsty suicidal terrorists understand, then so be it.
Hamas has done a very poor job of improving the plight of Palestineans, here is were I sympathise with Hamas, one cannot improve the plight of muslims unless nature provides them with large amounts of petroleum. Religion has completely swallowed natures ultimate resource aka brains in these people. So the only option Hamas has to show its legitimacy is war with Israel and the consequences are there to see.
How can you expect Hamas to do their job properly when Gaza has been under total closure since they took power!? zionist nazis have done all they could to make the lives of Gazans miserable, Hamas could not break this ugly deadlock imposed of them.
They promised to stop launching rockets into Israel if they gave them Gaza. Israel gave them Gaza. Within 24 hours they were already moved in and began launching rockets into Israel again. To hell with them. Liars.
Wrong! It was conditional upon the zionist state NOT obstructing freedom of movement for Gazans! Gaza remained a big open-air prison! No one buys Israeli BS about Hamas launching 'bombs' (that are nothing more than glorified fireworks) into Israel. In fact Hamas's attack was in direct response to the closure of Gaza by the Jewish state terrorists. Palestinians were eating out of garbage dumps because no food was allowed in Gaza due to the Zionist closure. Hamas responded to Zionist provocation.
Hearty congratulations to Israel for getting rid of terrorists from this world. Israel is truly the world leader as it is the only nation which has the balls to stand by what is correct.
Latest: 382 Palestinans dead, 1850 injured (350 critical) and wholesale destruction of Gaza's civilian infrastructure: Welcome to jewish/nazi state terrorists' FINAL SOLUTION! Jewish/nazi state sponsored holocaust reflects Zionism's inherently evil agenda! The jewish/nazi air force used a new bunker-buster missile in Gaza that it received recently from it master partners-in-crime the United States. The US is equally complicit in jewish/nazi orchestrated HOLOCAUST in Gaza.
312 Palestinans dead, 900 injured (180 critial) and wholesale destruction of Gaza's civilian infrastructure: Welcome to zionist/nazi state terrorists' FINAL SOLUTION! zionist/nazi state massacre reflects the Jewish state's intention for "peace" and despite peace initiatives, conferences and agreements of the past 15 years, scenes of killing, destruction and dispelling and starving of Palestinians continue. Zionism is inherently against peaceful co-existance and inherently evil!
Marines are dying in Iraq, so this IDF garbage can rape children?
IDF soldier indicted for alleged rape of 12-year-old girl-News and commentary relating to events in Israel, the occupied territories, and the world, ...
10 IDF soldiers from the Negev air force base of Navatim were incarcerated on Thursday afternoon for their part in the rape of a 14-year-old girl.
Israeli massacre reflects the Jewish state's intention for "peace" and despite peace initiatives, conferences and agreements of the past 15 years, scenes of killing, destruction and dispelling and starving of Palestinians continue. Zionism is inherently against peaceful co-existance and inherently evil!
You sound like an Indian and maybe you know all too well your own government's invovlement in the Mumbai bombings. The difference is that we are seeing with our own eyes as the nazi jews bomb the Palestinians and the death the are raining on them! I think you've been smoking cow dung...
oh you mean like Kasab the terrorist, whose Pakistani father accepted he was his son, but then whenever muslim terrorists strike non-muslims it is conspiracy. Dude, we use use to great supporters of Arafat, we will never ever make the mistake of supporting terrorists again. These guys deserve what they get.
Kasab was an Paki no one denies this, but he was an Indian patsy working with RAW. Remember that India have more to gain from the attacks than Pakistan. All terrorists have now been killed & we wont know who they were. We will only hear what the Indian authorities want us to hear! India can kill Muslims in Gujarat and Kashmir and expect to get away with it? Injustice shall beget injustice and terror shall beget terror. Pure and simple!
"civilian shields"? Are you insane!? the nazi terrorists are bombing universities and schools and power stations and hospitals! Its what you call jewish terror at its best. Dont bother responding, I dont have time for dimwits.
oh so i become a dimwit, when I say that HAMAS uses its own people as human shields and when you say RAW used Kasab to kill its own people its not insane. You don't need to respond either, but please do think about it. This is the reason, people have stopped trusting muslims. Palestineans have lost support of 1 billion Indians.
The difference is that one can be seen (i.e. Hamas not using human shields) and one can NOT be seen and thus equally speculative as your assertion that ISI or LeT or other Kashmiri freedom movements are involved. Hope you understand this basic logic. Adios and good bye!
"basic logic" !! I am using exactly your logic. From evidence on ground, Kasab is ISI trained killer according to his confessions. In any case I don't expect you to understand. So good bye and good luck.
"Kasab is ISI trained killer" - Where is your evidence? As I said, both of our assetions are equally speculative and neither of us can prove it! p.s. If he was a 'trained killer', I would have expected him to do a better job and NOT get caught, tu tu tu. Remember also that Hindu extremists have been caught before trying to implicate Muslims for some terror acts. For example:
Why can you not take his confession as evidence ? You will not take it because you presuppose, that India will kill its own people, harm its own economy and create war hysteria in times of a world wide economic crisis..this sounds ridiculous to anyone except the non-indian muslim community. When I use similar logic in Palestine it upsets you no end. Our muslims are our business and it your business not to let the so called "non-state" actors using your land to wage war on a neighbor.
Confession taken under torture is worthless. Muslims are not 'your business' because Muslims are one ummah and a global brotherhood, what hurts them in India or Gaza or anywhere, hurts them all.
p.s. Why dont you read those links? Are you afraid that you will not be able to respond :^)
Why would we have to "torture" Kasab if he was allegedly sponsored by RAW, where is your logic taking you ? If muslims are one Ummah, why is Egypt preventing Palestinians refugees from entering there border ? Why is it that Iran had a decade long war with Iraq ? Why is it that Paksitani army performed a genocide next only to the holocaust in Bangladesh (3 million) ? Why is it that muslims bomb other muslims ? So please wake up. There is no Ummah only political oppurtunism.
Your 'whys' are misnomers and statements disguised as questions. The fact that parts of today's ummah may be 'political oppurtunism' does not divert from the fundamental values and recognition which Islam placed on it. If Muslims who claim to be adhering to their faith and fail to follow it; then the problem lies with the people and not the religion.
I went through your links: (link 1). out of the 60,000 people which islamic terrorism has taken toll of since 2001 in india alone, it is the first time that a hindu group has used rdx supplied by islamic groups and some 36 innocent muslims. Now those people are in jail, they are not moving around freely and most likely be given capital punishment. Where as Afzal guru an islamic terrorist will most likely be pardoned. (link 2) Same as link 1 and those accused are in jail.
(link 3) Anatulay had doubts that (1)why Karkare went to Cama hospital instead of Oberoi hotel, Answer: Because police control room came to know about Oberoi attack a full 13 minutes AFTER Karkare was shot. Anatulay had doubts about Hindus shooting Karkare Anser: Postmortem report has confirmed bullets were from the pakistani terrorist's guns (Ofcourse you are not going to beleive the report though now Anatullay believes the report because you are muslim).
Finally there is no such thing as Muslim Ummah, the last of such an organization was the Killafah, which decayed and was reborn as secular Turkey. Of course problem is with the people and not religion, but unfortunately religion makes no sense without people. If 100 people read the quran you will have 100 versions of the quran, an evolved religion allows for those 100 versions, if it does not (which is the case with islam), those 100 will fight (monetarily, intellectually and VIOLENTLY)
There is only 1 Qur'an, and there is only 1 interpretation of it. Because you are a non-Muslim, you have no knowledge about Islam and its intricacies so dont pretend. Stick with the subject matter at hand!
is there one interpretation? then divisions like shia, sunni, salafi, wahabi, sufi are all based on color of the skin i guess. as far as my intellect is concerned i definitely dont have the muslim IQ which sees US hand in 9/11, british hand in 7/11 and indian hand in 26/11.ofcourse we kill our own people to destroy islam as muslims are so progressive
that they threaten the world with their superior "scientific" achievements, inventions,"fine" individual character and "benevolent god". lol
I am not going to waste my time and debade my religion with you because you know nothing about Islam. Therefore, please be a gentleman and stick with the topic at hand: If you want to reduce this discussion into gutter accusations and hindu v muslim superiority, then I have no time for you. By the way how old are you?
i take serious exception , when you say that we killed our own people in mumbai, it shows no humanity. its like someone coming to your house and doing such an act and then blaming it on the family. neither am i interested in stupid conspiracy theories. the fact remains muslims are involved in 99% of the terrorism in the world out which majority emanate from pakistan. no point in blaming each other, you do what you have to do to the world, we will do what we have to those responsible.
You can NOT prove that you did not kill your own people. Furthermore, you can NOT prove that it was NOT Hindu fanatics, since we know they are capable of covert terror as previous examples show.
Pakistan is under great pressure from america to act, even though they dont know against whom they should act because India has given no solid evidence that LeT were involved!! Pakistan arrested LeT leaders because they wanted to conduct their own investigations because no one else were giving them the information they needed to act. Pakistan is under pressure to hand over people to India who have no links with the bombings because India is using the tragedy to target Kashmiri freedom movements!
Is that the best you can do? Does that mean you have nothing else to say? Let me repeat: India has given NO evidence to implicate LeT in the Mumbai terror attacks! Pakistan can not act without evidence. And Pakistan will not hand over any person to India unless America tightens the screw on Zardari!
Give me proof of LeT's involvement & I judge based upon the evidence. Remeber that LeT dont deny their involvement in attacks if it indeed carried it out (see: tinyurl . com / 8g5a2n) for example - If LeT leadership is denying its involvement & they deny Kasab is a member & they have given their own alibis & r determined to limit their attacks on Indian armed forces in Kashmir, then what evidence does India have to the contarary? Kasab could be a RAW patsy or his confession drawn under torture.
For the time being say that LeT was involved. So do I understand that if the leT leadership accepts they were involved and evidence is given for there involvement, you will accept it as evidence ?
Yes, if LeT leadership say they were involved, I would believe them, but they have rejected Indian accusations. They have also asked for evidence from Delhi just as Pakistan has. It is beyond logic to ask for evidence from the accused rather than the accuser!
really look at the statements of Zarar Shah of LeT , the investigations are being done in pakistan. lets wait if that is what you require. in any case if there is no results on the ground by pakistan there is going to be war. let Allah decide then .. lol
remember the samjuta train attack happend a year or 2 ago indian government blamed pakistan but after there own investigations they found that is was indian army karenal involved, so how can pakistan trust indias alllegiations on mumbai attacks
This attack by zionist/nazi state is part of a larger US-Israeli plan to weaken a democratically elected g'ment of Hamas & to subdue Palestinians to surrender & accept a plan on zionist terms that do not address the end to occupation! In short Israel wants an obedient dog like the PLO to serve its interests. With their political, economic and military support, Washington is equally complicit in these crimes against humanity!
Dr. Ron Paul: I don't think there is such a thing as an independent Israel doing anything, because I think no matter what they do its our money, its our weapons, and they're not going to do it without us approving it and if they get into trouble we're going to bail them out, so there is no separation between the two.
so you see israeli pig-fuckers (I heard you fuck your mothers...), you are shit stains in America's underwear.
You produce nothing, do nothing and are nothing without the US.
I can't believe the International Forces have not objected and criticised Isreal. When Hamas in retaliation shoots rockets at the Isrealis, straight away America & Britain shove their big nose in and start condemning Hamas.
THIS proves THAT gOD CHOSE ISRAEL..THE 1967 MIDEAST WAR..GODS HAND THAT PROCTECTED AGAINST MUSLIMS AND ARABS..GOD DESTROYS THE NATIONS THAT RISE AGAINST ISRAEL...LOOK UP THE MIRACLE OF THAT 1967 WAR HERE ON YOUTUBE..YOU WILL BELIEVE..IT IS ALWAYS NOT DISCUSSED ANYWHERE IN THE ARAB WORLD..GOD DESTORYED THE ARAB ARMIES THAT ROSE AGAINST ISRAEL..A REAL MIRACLE OF OUR GENERATION..
Keep your bias views to yourself, I don't have the interest or time to read big essays made by you which support the evil way of the Zionists in killing PAlestinians in masses.
Is it a miracle that Isreal managed to martyr so many PAlestinians who were none other than normal civilians, cause over 1000 injuries and displace many from their homes, making them even more dependent on outside forces and aid agencies? You're sick. That aint miracalous, that's horrendous massacre!!!
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The Jew is racist. Hitler it explains in his book. Racism is harshly criticized and is an ideology that must be quashed. Not the Jewish people but if their old habits.
this is such bullsh!t. israelis do not kill innocent people. thats what palestinians are known for...
girlymctx 5 months ago
@girlymctx Don't be an idiot all of your life. It would take the Palestinians 60 years to kill as many as the IDF did during OCL which lasted only 3 weeks. Wanna see the math? Plenty stats to back me up! So, twat, you were saying?
Seanus32 1 month ago
I'm just sick and tired of apologists for State violence against innocent civilians. People that call for genocide against Arabs, those people truly are no better than Nazis. All fascists sicken me. When Jesus came to the world he gave us a new commandment, TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO MAKE LOVE BE YOUR LAW?
WhitePhosphorusBombs 3 years ago
How easy it is to kill history, to delete the narrative of Gaza's tragedy, to avoid an ugly irony! Gaza exists because the Palestinians who lived in Ashkelon & the fields around it (Askalaan in Arabic) were forced from their lands when Israel was violently imposed: tinyurl . com / 75elt4
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist..." [Moshe Dayan, April 4, 1969]
zakuk77 3 years ago
It's about time Israel stops these ANIMALS!! The animal terrorist palestinians hide between children and then complain when children are killed... live like a man and come out if you really care! Israel MUST protect herself... and will prevail. KILL THEM JUST LIKE U.S.A KILLED SADDAM!!!
jackstubbons 3 years ago
Someone has to kill Mahmud Abbas this son of a bitch dirty cock sucking Jew he is!
Saladdin65 3 years ago
an eye for an eye, a rocket for a rocket.
hamas rockets = israeli rockets
RocketmanXO 3 years ago
No one buys Israeli BS about Hamas launching 'bombs' (that are nothing more than glorified fireworks) into Israel. In fact Hamas's rocket attack was in direct response to the closure of Gaza by the Jewish state terrorists. Palestinians were eating out of garbage dumps because no food was allowed in Gaza due to the Zionist closure. Hamas responded to Zionist provocation and its the latter's breakage of yet another ceasefire! Israel has no honour nor dignity when it comes to keeping peace treaties
zakuk77 3 years ago
Zionist, zionist, zionist. Why is that? That attitude alienates israel even more, it would continue its activities & regard its personal protection with fierce response from anybody who threaten it as it is justifiably paranoid since all the people around it are talking about the annihilation of the "zionist" people from the map.
RocketmanXO 3 years ago
let me ask you one more thing, hamas was voted in, it should be mindful of its people, then why do they launch rockets very close to schools and other residential areas?
And you know what? If they can get rockets, why cant they get food for palestine instead? Simply because, all they want is war, for israel to retaliate and for them to cry foul when they get hit. Well, they have what they wanted. That is why no one buys the BS from hamas, that is why they dont get much sympathy from the world.
RocketmanXO 3 years ago
so stop trying to promote your views, we can think for ourselves. You posting all these comments wont sway out opinion unless hamas does the right thing in the world view. That is why you see these type of reaction here on youtube, the world is actually just standing back and watching israel take out hamas & its infrastructure.
RocketmanXO 3 years ago
These are all in reply to zakuk77
RocketmanXO 3 years ago
next time these palestenian morons think of killing israelis with there "glorified" fire works, they should remember this day. this is the language these blood thirsty suicidal terrorists understand, then so be it.
samudra8O 3 years ago
Hamas has done a very poor job of improving the plight of Palestineans, here is were I sympathise with Hamas, one cannot improve the plight of muslims unless nature provides them with large amounts of petroleum. Religion has completely swallowed natures ultimate resource aka brains in these people. So the only option Hamas has to show its legitimacy is war with Israel and the consequences are there to see.
samudra8O 3 years ago
How can you expect Hamas to do their job properly when Gaza has been under total closure since they took power!? zionist nazis have done all they could to make the lives of Gazans miserable, Hamas could not break this ugly deadlock imposed of them.
zakuk77 3 years ago
They promised to stop launching rockets into Israel if they gave them Gaza. Israel gave them Gaza. Within 24 hours they were already moved in and began launching rockets into Israel again. To hell with them. Liars.
brotherbriann 3 years ago 2
Wrong! It was conditional upon the zionist state NOT obstructing freedom of movement for Gazans! Gaza remained a big open-air prison! No one buys Israeli BS about Hamas launching 'bombs' (that are nothing more than glorified fireworks) into Israel. In fact Hamas's attack was in direct response to the closure of Gaza by the Jewish state terrorists. Palestinians were eating out of garbage dumps because no food was allowed in Gaza due to the Zionist closure. Hamas responded to Zionist provocation.
zakuk77 3 years ago
Hearty congratulations to Israel for getting rid of terrorists from this world. Israel is truly the world leader as it is the only nation which has the balls to stand by what is correct.
samudra8O 3 years ago
Latest: 382 Palestinans dead, 1850 injured (350 critical) and wholesale destruction of Gaza's civilian infrastructure: Welcome to jewish/nazi state terrorists' FINAL SOLUTION! Jewish/nazi state sponsored holocaust reflects Zionism's inherently evil agenda! The jewish/nazi air force used a new bunker-buster missile in Gaza that it received recently from it master partners-in-crime the United States. The US is equally complicit in jewish/nazi orchestrated HOLOCAUST in Gaza.
zakuk77 3 years ago
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Israel will continue to bomb civilians in Gaza and ILLEGALY OCCUPY Palestinians.
Lebanon-Hezbola are going to get pissed and attack Israel. *(Lebanon now has S-300 missiles - compliments of Russia/Iran)
Israel will then attack Lebanon and cry "self-defense" and accuse Iran of helping/arming Lebanon.
The US will send more troops to the Iranian border.
The perfect excuse to attack Iran. Israel will sit back and watch the US die for israel.
IRAN = 4th largest oil reserves in the world.
ballsauce666 3 years ago
312 Palestinans dead, 900 injured (180 critial) and wholesale destruction of Gaza's civilian infrastructure: Welcome to zionist/nazi state terrorists' FINAL SOLUTION! zionist/nazi state massacre reflects the Jewish state's intention for "peace" and despite peace initiatives, conferences and agreements of the past 15 years, scenes of killing, destruction and dispelling and starving of Palestinians continue. Zionism is inherently against peaceful co-existance and inherently evil!
zakuk77 3 years ago
oh well , could have been worse, i could have been a small 15kiloton nuke warhead @]] maybe next time
joedredd13215 3 years ago
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35 Jewish IDF Soldiers Rape A 11 Year Old Girl
Marines are dying in Iraq, so this IDF garbage can rape children?
IDF soldier indicted for alleged rape of 12-year-old girl-News and commentary relating to events in Israel, the occupied territories, and the world, ...
10 IDF soldiers from the Negev air force base of Navatim were incarcerated on Thursday afternoon for their part in the rape of a 14-year-old girl.
WHAT ABOUT THE ARABS KIDS JAILED???
YOUR TAX DOLLARS HARD AT WORK...
ballsauce666 3 years ago
Israeli massacre reflects the Jewish state's intention for "peace" and despite peace initiatives, conferences and agreements of the past 15 years, scenes of killing, destruction and dispelling and starving of Palestinians continue. Zionism is inherently against peaceful co-existance and inherently evil!
zakuk77 3 years ago
HAMAS is killing its own people for world sympathy. Its all a conspiracy like 9/11 etc etc.
samudra8O 3 years ago
You sound like an Indian and maybe you know all too well your own government's invovlement in the Mumbai bombings. The difference is that we are seeing with our own eyes as the nazi jews bomb the Palestinians and the death the are raining on them! I think you've been smoking cow dung...
zakuk77 3 years ago
oh you mean like Kasab the terrorist, whose Pakistani father accepted he was his son, but then whenever muslim terrorists strike non-muslims it is conspiracy. Dude, we use use to great supporters of Arafat, we will never ever make the mistake of supporting terrorists again. These guys deserve what they get.
samudra8O 3 years ago
Kasab was an Paki no one denies this, but he was an Indian patsy working with RAW. Remember that India have more to gain from the attacks than Pakistan. All terrorists have now been killed & we wont know who they were. We will only hear what the Indian authorities want us to hear! India can kill Muslims in Gujarat and Kashmir and expect to get away with it? Injustice shall beget injustice and terror shall beget terror. Pure and simple!
zakuk77 3 years ago
In that case yes , it is Israeli airforce which bombed HAMAS defences, but it is HAMAS who keep civilians as human shields.
samudra8O 3 years ago
"civilian shields"? Are you insane!? the nazi terrorists are bombing universities and schools and power stations and hospitals! Its what you call jewish terror at its best. Dont bother responding, I dont have time for dimwits.
zakuk77 3 years ago
oh so i become a dimwit, when I say that HAMAS uses its own people as human shields and when you say RAW used Kasab to kill its own people its not insane. You don't need to respond either, but please do think about it. This is the reason, people have stopped trusting muslims. Palestineans have lost support of 1 billion Indians.
samudra8O 3 years ago
The difference is that one can be seen (i.e. Hamas not using human shields) and one can NOT be seen and thus equally speculative as your assertion that ISI or LeT or other Kashmiri freedom movements are involved. Hope you understand this basic logic. Adios and good bye!
zakuk77 3 years ago
"basic logic" !! I am using exactly your logic. From evidence on ground, Kasab is ISI trained killer according to his confessions. In any case I don't expect you to understand. So good bye and good luck.
samudra8O 3 years ago
"Kasab is ISI trained killer" - Where is your evidence? As I said, both of our assetions are equally speculative and neither of us can prove it! p.s. If he was a 'trained killer', I would have expected him to do a better job and NOT get caught, tu tu tu. Remember also that Hindu extremists have been caught before trying to implicate Muslims for some terror acts. For example:
tinyurl . com / a33gq6
tinyurl . com / 5ndenp
tinyurl . com / 9fzqdf
zakuk77 3 years ago
Why can you not take his confession as evidence ? You will not take it because you presuppose, that India will kill its own people, harm its own economy and create war hysteria in times of a world wide economic crisis..this sounds ridiculous to anyone except the non-indian muslim community. When I use similar logic in Palestine it upsets you no end. Our muslims are our business and it your business not to let the so called "non-state" actors using your land to wage war on a neighbor.
samudra8O 3 years ago
Confession taken under torture is worthless. Muslims are not 'your business' because Muslims are one ummah and a global brotherhood, what hurts them in India or Gaza or anywhere, hurts them all.
p.s. Why dont you read those links? Are you afraid that you will not be able to respond :^)
zakuk77 3 years ago
Why would we have to "torture" Kasab if he was allegedly sponsored by RAW, where is your logic taking you ? If muslims are one Ummah, why is Egypt preventing Palestinians refugees from entering there border ? Why is it that Iran had a decade long war with Iraq ? Why is it that Paksitani army performed a genocide next only to the holocaust in Bangladesh (3 million) ? Why is it that muslims bomb other muslims ? So please wake up. There is no Ummah only political oppurtunism.
samudra8O 3 years ago
Your 'whys' are misnomers and statements disguised as questions. The fact that parts of today's ummah may be 'political oppurtunism' does not divert from the fundamental values and recognition which Islam placed on it. If Muslims who claim to be adhering to their faith and fail to follow it; then the problem lies with the people and not the religion.
Why dont you comment on these:
tinyurl . com / a33gq6
tinyurl . com / 5ndenp
tinyurl . com / 9fzqdf
Afraid of the truth?
zakuk77 3 years ago
I went through your links: (link 1). out of the 60,000 people which islamic terrorism has taken toll of since 2001 in india alone, it is the first time that a hindu group has used rdx supplied by islamic groups and some 36 innocent muslims. Now those people are in jail, they are not moving around freely and most likely be given capital punishment. Where as Afzal guru an islamic terrorist will most likely be pardoned. (link 2) Same as link 1 and those accused are in jail.
samudra8O 3 years ago
Are you really that intellectually challenged that you are unable to see the ground realities. Your responses are shallow and contain no evidence!
zakuk77 3 years ago
(link 3) Anatulay had doubts that (1)why Karkare went to Cama hospital instead of Oberoi hotel, Answer: Because police control room came to know about Oberoi attack a full 13 minutes AFTER Karkare was shot. Anatulay had doubts about Hindus shooting Karkare Anser: Postmortem report has confirmed bullets were from the pakistani terrorist's guns (Ofcourse you are not going to beleive the report though now Anatullay believes the report because you are muslim).
samudra8O 3 years ago
Finally there is no such thing as Muslim Ummah, the last of such an organization was the Killafah, which decayed and was reborn as secular Turkey. Of course problem is with the people and not religion, but unfortunately religion makes no sense without people. If 100 people read the quran you will have 100 versions of the quran, an evolved religion allows for those 100 versions, if it does not (which is the case with islam), those 100 will fight (monetarily, intellectually and VIOLENTLY)
samudra8O 3 years ago
There is only 1 Qur'an, and there is only 1 interpretation of it. Because you are a non-Muslim, you have no knowledge about Islam and its intricacies so dont pretend. Stick with the subject matter at hand!
zakuk77 3 years ago
is there one interpretation? then divisions like shia, sunni, salafi, wahabi, sufi are all based on color of the skin i guess. as far as my intellect is concerned i definitely dont have the muslim IQ which sees US hand in 9/11, british hand in 7/11 and indian hand in 26/11.ofcourse we kill our own people to destroy islam as muslims are so progressive
that they threaten the world with their superior "scientific" achievements, inventions,"fine" individual character and "benevolent god". lol
samudra8O 3 years ago
I am not going to waste my time and debade my religion with you because you know nothing about Islam. Therefore, please be a gentleman and stick with the topic at hand: If you want to reduce this discussion into gutter accusations and hindu v muslim superiority, then I have no time for you. By the way how old are you?
zakuk77 3 years ago
i take serious exception , when you say that we killed our own people in mumbai, it shows no humanity. its like someone coming to your house and doing such an act and then blaming it on the family. neither am i interested in stupid conspiracy theories. the fact remains muslims are involved in 99% of the terrorism in the world out which majority emanate from pakistan. no point in blaming each other, you do what you have to do to the world, we will do what we have to those responsible.
samudra8O 3 years ago
You can NOT prove that you did not kill your own people. Furthermore, you can NOT prove that it was NOT Hindu fanatics, since we know they are capable of covert terror as previous examples show.
zakuk77 3 years ago
Hereis the latest news from Dawn (pakistani new paper), google this headline:'Pakistani investigators find Mumbai link".
But now ofcourse, one cannot trust the traitor pakistani government investigations can you, they lick americas boots !! Lol.
samudra8O 3 years ago
Pakistan is under great pressure from america to act, even though they dont know against whom they should act because India has given no solid evidence that LeT were involved!! Pakistan arrested LeT leaders because they wanted to conduct their own investigations because no one else were giving them the information they needed to act. Pakistan is under pressure to hand over people to India who have no links with the bombings because India is using the tragedy to target Kashmiri freedom movements!
zakuk77 3 years ago
ha ha ha you are really a moron. have it your way good luck.
samudra8O 3 years ago
Is that the best you can do? Does that mean you have nothing else to say? Let me repeat: India has given NO evidence to implicate LeT in the Mumbai terror attacks! Pakistan can not act without evidence. And Pakistan will not hand over any person to India unless America tightens the screw on Zardari!
zakuk77 3 years ago
Okay let me give one last try, what will sort of proof will convince you that the terror was planned and executed by the LET ?
samudra8O 3 years ago
Give me proof of LeT's involvement & I judge based upon the evidence. Remeber that LeT dont deny their involvement in attacks if it indeed carried it out (see: tinyurl . com / 8g5a2n) for example - If LeT leadership is denying its involvement & they deny Kasab is a member & they have given their own alibis & r determined to limit their attacks on Indian armed forces in Kashmir, then what evidence does India have to the contarary? Kasab could be a RAW patsy or his confession drawn under torture.
zakuk77 3 years ago
For the time being say that LeT was involved. So do I understand that if the leT leadership accepts they were involved and evidence is given for there involvement, you will accept it as evidence ?
samudra8O 3 years ago
Yes, if LeT leadership say they were involved, I would believe them, but they have rejected Indian accusations. They have also asked for evidence from Delhi just as Pakistan has. It is beyond logic to ask for evidence from the accused rather than the accuser!
zakuk77 3 years ago
really look at the statements of Zarar Shah of LeT , the investigations are being done in pakistan. lets wait if that is what you require. in any case if there is no results on the ground by pakistan there is going to be war. let Allah decide then .. lol
samudra8O 3 years ago
remember the samjuta train attack happend a year or 2 ago indian government blamed pakistan but after there own investigations they found that is was indian army karenal involved, so how can pakistan trust indias alllegiations on mumbai attacks
adnanshah170883 3 years ago
This attack by zionist/nazi state is part of a larger US-Israeli plan to weaken a democratically elected g'ment of Hamas & to subdue Palestinians to surrender & accept a plan on zionist terms that do not address the end to occupation! In short Israel wants an obedient dog like the PLO to serve its interests. With their political, economic and military support, Washington is equally complicit in these crimes against humanity!
zakuk77 3 years ago
History shows Jews and Christians killed more Muslims than Muslims killed Jews and Christians:
usa . mediamonitors . net / content / view / full / 29464
Israel's Terror Rampage:
asiapacific . mediamonitors . net / content / view / full / 57859
Nazi Israel... Indeed:
asiapacific . mediamonitors . net / content / view / full / 57847
zakuk77 3 years ago
The people of the 'west bank' must make sure that the Jewish puppet, the clown Abbas is removed and/or elimninated.
glenwold 3 years ago
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Dr. Ron Paul: I don't think there is such a thing as an independent Israel doing anything, because I think no matter what they do its our money, its our weapons, and they're not going to do it without us approving it and if they get into trouble we're going to bail them out, so there is no separation between the two.
so you see israeli pig-fuckers (I heard you fuck your mothers...), you are shit stains in America's underwear.
You produce nothing, do nothing and are nothing without the US.
:o)
ballsauce666 3 years ago
my western leftist comrades,
I hope you know the difference between F-16 fighter jets and quassam fireworks.
Stalinator1945 3 years ago 2
AllahuAkbar!!!
May Palestine one day be liberated AAmeen!!!
I can't believe the International Forces have not objected and criticised Isreal. When Hamas in retaliation shoots rockets at the Isrealis, straight away America & Britain shove their big nose in and start condemning Hamas.
omairah 3 years ago
THIS proves THAT gOD CHOSE ISRAEL..THE 1967 MIDEAST WAR..GODS HAND THAT PROCTECTED AGAINST MUSLIMS AND ARABS..GOD DESTROYS THE NATIONS THAT RISE AGAINST ISRAEL...LOOK UP THE MIRACLE OF THAT 1967 WAR HERE ON YOUTUBE..YOU WILL BELIEVE..IT IS ALWAYS NOT DISCUSSED ANYWHERE IN THE ARAB WORLD..GOD DESTORYED THE ARAB ARMIES THAT ROSE AGAINST ISRAEL..A REAL MIRACLE OF OUR GENERATION..
justcruzzinn 3 years ago
Keep your bias views to yourself, I don't have the interest or time to read big essays made by you which support the evil way of the Zionists in killing PAlestinians in masses.
Is it a miracle that Isreal managed to martyr so many PAlestinians who were none other than normal civilians, cause over 1000 injuries and displace many from their homes, making them even more dependent on outside forces and aid agencies? You're sick. That aint miracalous, that's horrendous massacre!!!
omairah 3 years ago
HAMAS uses children as bomb shield and to show the world in order to get sympathy.
samudra8O 3 years ago
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ha ha ha!
Pig face coward Israelis are bragging about killing children, women, elderly and unarmed men from their F-16's - Tanks and Naval Ships.
They starve Gaza. Children born into occupation and living in tents and these pig-fuck Israelis think they are tough?
If I catch any of you Israelis on the street I will beat your pathetic coward nazi asses to a bloody pulp.
Billions of people feel the same way.
You will bring a 2nd Holocaust onto yourselves you shit people.
pathetic israelis.
ballsauce666 3 years ago
Erase ISrael from the World Map...That's the point..!
bokybad 3 years ago
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ballsauce666 3 years ago
The Jew is racist. Hitler it explains in his book. Racism is harshly criticized and is an ideology that must be quashed. Not the Jewish people but if their old habits.
clubmisteriogto 3 years ago