His visit today was a nice gesture, and I wrote about it here: examiner.com/fashion-trends-in-san-francisco/video-see-obama-surprise-visit-to-afghanistan
@SamoanSpike07 They wont nuke anything, nukes are only used to scare the people and keep them in line. What they want is to kill the people without destroying the loot.
Your name says it all, if you can't tell the difference between the party that raped the US economy, started a war in Iraq to make money for their rich friends over the bodies of fallen troops
versus
the party that left a balanced budget, and a surplus (in 1999), bailed out the economy, and the auto industry to make sure as many folks as possible have jobs, and will have to clean up after the bloated excesses of Cheney/bush for years to come, you must have been living alone in a cave.
Israel should be turned into one big bonfire. Let those crooked jews burn like they should have back in the 40s. burn jew burn. you deserve to burn for betraying your own people for the holy roman empire's benefit. rothschild can eat a dick. you jews are parasites.
Islamic extremist terrorist are in Yemen, Somalia, and elsewhere. They don't need to be provoked. They always want to attack, but feel the need to wait until the US is weak, unprepared, distracted, and asleep.
Al Qaeda was behind the 9/11/2001 attacks, it is led by Osama Bin Laden.
He bragged about his 'success' and was proven to be behind the attack. That is why it is so strange that Cheney/bush avoided going after him. Al Qaeda was afraid to attack the US on our soil until bush got in. They wanted to be sure they could get away with it. In the last 8 years they have. Bin Laden is a multi-millionaire from Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden Bros. is the largest non-royal construction Co. in Arabia
9/11/2001, the TERRORISTS wanted to make the US economy suffer and shrink. They failed that year, but now, the US economy has suffered and shrunk. What the US should do now to spit on the terrorists is to focus 100% of its efforts on recovering and growing the US economy.
Fucking OBAma ONce AGain u decieve ANd LIE u are truely A pupPEt OF tHe ELITE and WE the PEople shALL make U paY!!! u BASTARD FucK Copenhagen U better NOt Sign THAt treaTy u dumb bastARD!!(obAMA)
Has anyone else noticed how little the coverage has been for this escalation? The media would report on it everyday up until it actually happened.
By talking about the surge for several months in advance, everyone gets used to the idea and conditioned further towards supporting it. Then, when it comes time for it to take place, they stop reporting on it and let everyone forget about it.
Obama is an incompetent creep who's best at honoring himself... He has no business in the Oval Office. The entire free world is holding their collective breath waiting for him to be voted out of office. We the People, made a Big Mistake electing this navel gazer...a Big Mistake.
I guess the delay was the shadow trying to find a way to escalate this matter without utilizing a major false flag event?
Now that we outnumber them 2:1, we should certainly be able to guard more poppy fields and pipelines while ensuring a corrupt puppet government, right?
Your more likely to lose your Job than die from a terrorist attack
Obama should concentrate on creating Jobs Jobs Jobs otherwise we'll have more suicides from people being laid off and commiting their own acts of violence
what timing the Bushco whitehouse missed all 911warning signs. meanwhile VP dick just happened to know of a corporation call Helliberton that got a no bid contract...worth billions to dick and bushco ...
CORPORATE PROFITS TO WAR VICTIMS on both sides our soldiers are committing suicide 10 a day ... unreported for non corporate propaganda news go to FSTV or LINK tv Democrazy Now
btw, wasn't he the guy who projected unemployment wouldn't eclipse 8% if we rushed the nearly one-trillion dollar stimulus package?(it's currently sitting at 10.8%)
the middle east is in for a RUDE awakening. the U.N. is making serious moves now. what will YOU do when the big bad UNITED NATIONS comes for YOU? nothing. they will blow up your country, install their fiat central banks, force a huge loan on that country to rebuild it using their private contractors who profit heavily from new construction. by the way thanks for all your resources too, those will be nice. now the imf runs your banks and issues fiat indebted currency to rape you and your people.
nice obama. more war drones with automatic weapons sent to kill what they believe are "inferior people." so i guess the new catholic crusade is endorsed and supported by even obama? yeah, he really favors muslims lol. way to betray your own people barack. fuckin bitch.
Obviously obama is just building up troops in the Middle East to attack Iran and start WW3.
obama reckless fiscal and monetary policies are causing the US economy to collapse, and thus the USD will no longer be chosen as the world currency reserve. obama wants to force the world to say on the USD, using the US military as instigators.
BTW, it will cost tax payers about $1 million for each obama sends to the Middle East.
Obama and his minions need are disturbed. I heard a US Army Officer say he liked Obama's exit strategy -exit strategy-gee they used to call that absolute victory. Now as the enemy cowers in fear we provide some comfort for them by telling them we aren't really serious about the whole thing and will soon be leaving!! What a farce!!
This obama slave puppet have no choice but to kneel down to obey and suck his nazi warmonger redneck chickenhawk master, like a "good old" HOUSE NEGROE....aahahahahahaaaaa
More body bags coming home for Christmas...happy holyday all you american tools...hahahaha
War Made Easy: How Presidents & Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death
watch?v=KN5vxOw9Elk
America needs to WAKE UP NOW!!
I am *Astounded* that the President mentions that this is not another Vietnam. *Vietnam Syndrome* the same *Rhetoric* used by Reagan and Bush 41, You see people, even President Obama has fallen into the clutches of the Military Industrial Complex.? We thought an African American elected President would change things but I guess NOT.
YOU KNOW, at this rate we may lose our free speech on the internet soon. Something must be done fast to wake people up and recognize the liars we call our leaders.
Obama wants troops fighting in the world in 2010 and wants no troops fighting and world peace in 2011. What a child. He needs to grow up. I'm surprised he ever managed to organize communities.
The problem with the world is Islam. Name one Islamic country that is enjoying peace. None. Most are living in mud/dung huts. If it were not for oil they would have nothing.
Dubai, Indonesia. They don't carry out stonings and beheading. You're just one fucking ignorant white cracker loser that just can't accept the fact that your pussy faggot white ass have been kicked in 9/11. Sore loser.
Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Lybia, Palistine, all shit holes. Talk all you want about kicking someones ass. It was a chicken shit sucker punch against civilians. The pentagon is a legit military target. But dont use a plane load of innocent civilians as the weapon to attack it. Cowards.
From what I see, we are not the ones living in caves and setting up bombs to kill the enemy , kids or who ever else comes around. The cowards will not stand and fight. If they really beleive in meeting Allah, and getting 19 virgins when they die, how come they dont stand on a battle field and fight?"Faggot ass cracker"? wow, that hurt.
Fort Hood. Great example of a coward muslim striking unarmed people. But you see what happened when someone with a gun showed up to even the playing field. true cowards.
Look at the middle east. Sand, lots and lots of sand. Its Gods punishment for not believing in him. His wrath. Look at it if you dont believe. Name a Islamic land that is not at least the majority desert. But the real god says he will forgive you if you ask. I dont think my God says anything about killing all none believers like yours. You should thank god you have the oil that countries fight over, if it were not for that, the world would forget you exist.
You are a fucking moron if you actually think muslims are responsible for 9/11. Why don't you thank your friendly neighborhood CIA, the agency of the UNITED NATIONS, NOT UNITED STATES. Why don't you thank the Vatican for all their religious orders that represent most of our country's decision-making. Bow down and thank the Pope for what he has given you. Bow down before the Jesuits and the Knights of Malta. Bow down before the Israeli dual-citizens that help corrupt this country. Good Boy.
Ok, Im going o ask a few questions. Who are the muslim highjackers in the photos. They work for the CIA? Why does Osama say he did this? Have you seen the video he put out before the attacks explaining how they were going to highjack the planes? Do you really think that the catholic church has any powere anymore.? Catholic church followers numbers are dropping. I do stand with israel and hope america always will. I hope that Israel blows the shit out of Iran. Lets get the big war going.
Muslims against every other religion. Winner takes all. Good luck cave dwellers. Nukes have to be cheaper than the tomahwak missles we keep shooting up their asses. 1 million each. The big bombs work wonders when trying to settle down a crazy enemy, ask Japan.
Although there's fucking sand & silicone everywhere, at least there's oil there. That truly is God's mercy. Look at those jews. They were persecuted by every civilizations in history & were even kicked out of their own country. Even until today there are bombs rockets raining on them LMAO. That's God's punishment. Stop whining you faggot you might have to beg for silicon in the Mid East for your breast implants one day haha
All I know about the jews is they kicked 2 muslim countries asses when they went to war. Do the muslims really want more of Israel? It tends to not work out so good. You should be thanking the U.S.A. for asking Israel not to blow you guys off the map. One day they will. Also, "Theinvulnerablefront", calm down. I dont want you getting real mad. You might strap a bomb to yourself and walk into a store and kill innocent people.
Oh hell yeah I'll blow myself up & get my 72 virgins LMAO. israel are fucking pussies ok. Can't fucking do shit themselves, but had to ask USA to do shit for them. Then they brag about how they are "God's children" & god's mercy will always be with them. Oh & a fucking "terrorist" group named Hezbollah kicked Israel's ass. Gosh these events are easily forgotten by you penis-nosed fuckers.
calm down, calm down. I worry about your temper. I think we can make the whole world better if we could just trade. We will trade Obama for Osama. You guys love Obama and we really really want Osama. Obama hates America as much as you, so he can run the show much better than Osama. I bet Osama was never a community organizer. We would just want Osama for a few min.. I think its a great deal.
They were persecutedand and they have been ran away, but you guys dont have anything for them. It must frustrate you guys sooooo much. Israel takes care of business when dealing with you guys, like I wish we would. Take off the gloves and stop worrying about what the world thinks. I totally respect them for that. They are gods children, sorry. p.s.- I do love seeing the idiots in palistine throwing little rocks at big tanks. Hows that working out for ya'?
Obama loves himself. He said " I " , 36 times last night. Why would you give a time table on pulling out? Just send the taliban a letter letting them know to hide a wait for us to leave on this certain date. Tell them to threaten the citizens of Afghan. that the american are leaving by this dat, so you better support us now. Obama is a idiot. This policy will lose. Why does Obama never use the word VICTORY. Never uses the word.
it's more of an organization. Have you ever heard theterm scape-goat. It'S like cutting the head off a hydra. Such idiocy. It's the mechanics behind it all you have dismantle. This is what a constitution stands for and we need a new one.
We're now fighting a war against the 'Taliban' who didn't attack us, just to prop up the corrupt afghan govt of hamid karzai who wants to be in power , remember the 9/11 hijackers were from saudi arabia
It's pure bull shit to expect our guys to hold back when they could be friend or foe. Don't expect our boys to be sitting ducks for those missing link subhumanoids! I know someone in my family that makes about 150 to 200 thousand dollars tax free money for 3 months work. He has been to Iraq about 6 to 8 times and is a security coordinator for the big shots. My son in law was vol. army and made pennies to protect these contractors! I smell a bad oder about our money being wasted.
and another problem i have is he shouldn't be trying to help that country we should just do what we went there for and that's it kill the fuckers that attacked us and get out... and most of them are in Pakistan now we should just be bombing the hell out of the caves and be aloud to cross the border has long has they stay in Pakistan being in Afghanistan is a wast of time
If memory serves me correctly , i believe the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi arabia. Bush invaded afghanistan because of 'training camps' that were then taken out in 7 weeks. There is no more al qeuda in afganistan , the taliban is not al queada, they are more conservative and some might even call them extreme but they are not the ones who attacked us on 9/11.
Also Al queda has bases in Saudi arabia where it was built from the ground up. Why do people keep thinkingIraq or afghnistanattackedus?
what is wrong with you ppl obama from the get go even before he was the president said this was the only war he believed in you knew this so why is everyone so mad at him hes been bringing troops home from iraq the only problem i have is that he didn't do this sooner when all hell was breaking lose and 30k troops are not going to get the job done if he plans on ending the war in 11 months he should be sending 150k troops
Why can't we just accept the fact that Afghanistan is not a country to meddle & fool around with? Why can't we respect other countries' sovereignty? If USA keep thinking that they can "bully" any country at will, then they will get their asses kicked big time cause times have changed. These countries are gaining military might. The more you send troops there, the higher the dissent will be towards americans. VERY COUNTER PRODUCTIVE
USA won't win anything in Afghanistan. This is not a fucking faggot american-made movie where USA will be the victor at the end of the day. Times have changed. Countries are becoming stronger. USA is not the sole superpower in terms of military might anymore. You send more troops there they will return home in caskets.
Ah yes, hope and change. Afghan forces will never be able to take over no more than Iraq forces will be able to defend their country. We are in for a very long time. Sad too that we will lose so many of our soldiers.
Obama doesn't want to succeed in eliminating terrorists. He wants to protect terrorists. He doesn't even want to hunt down the followers of terrorists in the US who log on to Yemen websites.
What a flippin drag .. .. pesky little details like national security to tend to when all he really wants to be doing is instituting the remainder of his hidden agenda and get the liberal wet dream of socialism up and running.
the president is the only one that can bring them home so unil that happens We Must Support Them, not do what We did to the Vietnam troops like spitting on them when they returned.
Any free news organisation would talk to the Iranian leader for his view every time our politicians discus Irans foreign policy. What better way to found out about the real Iran.
What are they afraid of, that he might have a valid argument; if not then he would expose himself as a crack pot.
My take on why the west didnt say much about alleged election fraud in Iran; because they want a leader they can have a war with. War is just a money making racket.
Thanks for the chance to argue with my fellow Americans about issues I feel strongly about. As it should be! Long live the political discussion. All of it. Speaking out is what we need to do.
Jeremy Bowen a British news correspondent reported in the gulf war how 300 children had been killed by our bombs in one single attack. He was told he was being unpatriotic to get report something like that. This is insane he was just reporting events not putting a political slant on them that is news.
Im not a Muslim or any other religion the creator spirit is within us all.
Religions have been sometimes written by controllers but all have been hijacked as a way of controlling the masses. My point was about news reporting, News should be a presentation of facts and sources with no political comment added to them. I am an adult like you and can decide my own point of view I dont need that decision made for me.
Fox News is our friend just go to their website and either reverse anything they say for the real story or just investigate what they are not talking about.
The world wide media has been focused on Tiger Woods having a domestic, wake up, that is not NEWS
ulster, I am sorry you feel that this debate is beneath your intelligence. I am only going to say, I'm intelligent and I totally "get" that there is no left or right. That's to cause distraction. Pay attention.
ginger. sadly to say that I do know someone on dialysis. I am. And yes I support health care reform. :-) But put the conspiracy theory aside, even if you think it is true. The interests here is protecting America. I truly dont think that can be really done by withdrawing and hoping for the best. But being, I think, intelligent, I am open to hear how we can do that and still prevent attacks from being plotted in places like Afghanistan. If I hear an intelligent solution, then I will agree.
ulster, I am sorry you are on dialysis, but do you still think Bin Laden could be alive and directing terrorism activities from a cave for 7 years? Seriously. How can your logical mind accept that? Especially since you are living the situation yourself? It's not possible.
ginger, well until you lived with dialysis, you dont know what the human body is capable of enduring. I do. Portable dialysis unit: $1,000, priceless. Much of my time on here I debate conservatives. But those on the left can be just as irrational in their logic. I will continue to support the President because I think he is trying to solve a very bad situation he was left with. If he and our troops fail, then you will have the same situation you want now. And we will test your theory.
joe, um, haven't you heard yet? The elections are fixed. The PTB own both flavors of politicians. These people socialize together along with the media and the corporations. Corrupt but cozy!
So many will continue on with their fairytale of ignorance and ignoring, as they always do. Nothing new, but those of us who have a bit of common sense, know. It is not to hard to see, nor required rocket science.
Now I need to get something to eat, I have been here long enough. Mostly it is spammers to hide and cover up what they dont want people to see anyway.
Barack Obama, PLEASE go fuck yourself. This is NOT what i voted for. You are a USELESS, LYING, Mother Fucker and i want your resignation now for fraud. I now despise you more than that bastard George W. Bush
Even Obama and his groupie of clowns tried using me during the past election. Now they dont come near me, since they know they cant live up to their BS they pushed.
Barry O-Commander & Chief Civil Right Advocate In Charge of Military Confrontations Worldwide.
Hussein The Insane-Leader of The Previous Free World-AKA-The United States of Multicultural Diversity and World Wide:Assistance,Intervention,Rescue,
Nation Building/Acceptance/Inclusion/
Love,Peace and Understanding/Change and The Redistribution of all wealth at any price & re election at any cost including: war/bankruptcy,genocide,financial collapse,lieing,cheating.stealing & corruption Obama
This Obama kinda makes me feel like the car salesman just went in the back to "speak to his manager" while i sit there sipping my free coffee for some "stimulus"
He is clear on his rational for the war and the ending of the war. He's stuck with having to spend billions on this war started in 2002. The man thinks and speaks well....
bb44 I talk to the CIA and NSA all the time. I simply go to Google and start typing. I talk to my cell phone and tell them to just call me and I'll tell them everything, no need to SPY on me.
An illegal war is Murder. So again, should be thinking about who is writing those speeches and what he says. Committing some pretty nasty sins there Washington. So they either believe in God or they do not. Seems to me it is a pretty big show for them.
These are simple lessons in history, which the slave masters ignore, all while at the same time pretending they have some sort of intellectual knowledge behind them.
I didn't realize Rev. Jeremiah Wright was here blogging about his conspiracy theories. So Rev, are you still wearing foil on you head, or did you remember to take your medication today?
All I can say you were warned. So when youre not allowed to drive more than 25 miles from your home address in your SUV without a special travel permit, dont say we didnt tell you.
@gingerpyle24 Agreed. So who do you think really runs the show. Obama? Or the military who can say they have had enough and refuse to go? Hmmmm? For the life of me, I do not understand why they continue to listen to these clowns on the hill.
when these troops come home- you can watch your kids get their arms and legs blown off waiting for the school bus the next morning- yeah, you are a stupid idiot- you dont remember 911 or the Ft Hood shootings ?
REPO are you really afraid of having your kids on a school bus? Frankly I'm more afraid of picking up mail at the federal building with sharpshooters looking down from the upstairs windows.
All the more reason we should be helping security over here and securing our borders. The only thing we are doing over there is making them hate us more, hence why 911 occurred in the first place.
Or you can do things like never place troops and bases in Saudi Arabia because that is something many Muslims see as defiling their holy land.. Note. many of the 9/11 attackers were Saudis. See any connection?
this is the stupidest comment i have seen in a long time
all the saudi women would be in iraqi brothels right now if the saudis had not asked us onto their soil to form a shield because their useless muslim troops were not worth sht.
you know the muslims are full of sht because they were diapers on their heads.
he scare me more than bush
kenny6131nuevo 5 days ago
He s playing you like a vioyln
zip68 10 months ago
His visit today was a nice gesture, and I wrote about it here: examiner.com/fashion-trends-in-san-francisco/video-see-obama-surprise-visit-to-afghanistan
sheilamba 1 year ago
obama is a joke
trojantjl 1 year ago
Hes seems no different to that prancing gay boy Bush.
wilsonnortheast 1 year ago
okay your dumb
if they nuke it
than The world is screwed..
SamoanSpike07 2 years ago
@SamoanSpike07 They wont nuke anything, nukes are only used to scare the people and keep them in line. What they want is to kill the people without destroying the loot.
yourmomisrandom 1 year ago
Your name says it all, if you can't tell the difference between the party that raped the US economy, started a war in Iraq to make money for their rich friends over the bodies of fallen troops
versus
the party that left a balanced budget, and a surplus (in 1999), bailed out the economy, and the auto industry to make sure as many folks as possible have jobs, and will have to clean up after the bloated excesses of Cheney/bush for years to come, you must have been living alone in a cave.
TheGranule 2 years ago
are you kidding ?? you certainly won't get accused of looking beyond the surface of anything will you.
not8upwthit 1 year ago
Bushama or Obamush...
Spread em.
They are no different.
TeamJackassTV 2 years ago
1 NUCLEAR BOMB AND CONFLICT IS OVER!
siwak91 2 years ago
more obamas to afganistan lol
pavel280488AA 2 years ago
Does your mommy and daddy know you are on the internet?
TheGranule 2 years ago
do hear the buzz of a lunatic BZZZZ
poor acursed
TheGranule 2 years ago
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xxramblingsxx 2 years ago
hahaha you guys are fucking FOOLS. Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects, It was YOU nigga, tell the TRUTH nigga.
accursedheretic 2 years ago
@accursedheretic ur a NIGGAaaa
FUCK THAT
thepimpzle 2 years ago
Israel should be turned into one big bonfire. Let those crooked jews burn like they should have back in the 40s. burn jew burn. you deserve to burn for betraying your own people for the holy roman empire's benefit. rothschild can eat a dick. you jews are parasites.
accursedheretic 2 years ago
u fuckin asshole. u should burn.
TheJuancm14 2 years ago
Islamic extremist terrorist are in Yemen, Somalia, and elsewhere. They don't need to be provoked. They always want to attack, but feel the need to wait until the US is weak, unprepared, distracted, and asleep.
xxramblingsxx 2 years ago
Al Qaeda was behind the 9/11/2001 attacks, it is led by Osama Bin Laden.
He bragged about his 'success' and was proven to be behind the attack. That is why it is so strange that Cheney/bush avoided going after him. Al Qaeda was afraid to attack the US on our soil until bush got in. They wanted to be sure they could get away with it. In the last 8 years they have. Bin Laden is a multi-millionaire from Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden Bros. is the largest non-royal construction Co. in Arabia
TheGranule 2 years ago
9/11/2001, the TERRORISTS wanted to make the US economy suffer and shrink. They failed that year, but now, the US economy has suffered and shrunk. What the US should do now to spit on the terrorists is to focus 100% of its efforts on recovering and growing the US economy.
joebidensanass 2 years ago
Cheney/bush hates the US, Proof:
It was proved that Bin Laden was behind 9/11, yet his family was flown out of the US before they could be questioned, Why?
Bush said "Getting Bin Laden was no big thing", why?
When the troops in Afghanistan got too close to Bin Laden they were pulled back, why?
The troops were pulled out of where Bin Laden was, to Iraq where he wasn't, why?
Cheney/bush (draft dodger/AWOL drunk) shamed the US by torturing prisoners, opening the US to more attacks.
TheGranule 2 years ago
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CaptainBubblePhD 2 years ago
Fucking OBAma ONce AGain u decieve ANd LIE u are truely A pupPEt OF tHe ELITE and WE the PEople shALL make U paY!!! u BASTARD FucK Copenhagen U better NOt Sign THAt treaTy u dumb bastARD!!(obAMA)
ellokote760 2 years ago 2
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xxramblingsxx 2 years ago
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xxramblingsxx 2 years ago
hes so fake...
GenGeorgeWashington 2 years ago 2
Don't fuck with the Vatican's drug trade. That's the lesson learned here.
accursedheretic 2 years ago
Opium & Oil.
cb3tech 2 years ago
Has anyone else noticed how little the coverage has been for this escalation? The media would report on it everyday up until it actually happened.
By talking about the surge for several months in advance, everyone gets used to the idea and conditioned further towards supporting it. Then, when it comes time for it to take place, they stop reporting on it and let everyone forget about it.
3report 2 years ago
Obama is an incompetent creep who's best at honoring himself... He has no business in the Oval Office. The entire free world is holding their collective breath waiting for him to be voted out of office. We the People, made a Big Mistake electing this navel gazer...a Big Mistake.
wideawake123 2 years ago
I guess the delay was the shadow trying to find a way to escalate this matter without utilizing a major false flag event?
Now that we outnumber them 2:1, we should certainly be able to guard more poppy fields and pipelines while ensuring a corrupt puppet government, right?
jag10 2 years ago
Your more likely to lose your Job than die from a terrorist attack
Obama should concentrate on creating Jobs Jobs Jobs otherwise we'll have more suicides from people being laid off and commiting their own acts of violence
jupiterscastle 2 years ago
what timing the Bushco whitehouse missed all 911warning signs. meanwhile VP dick just happened to know of a corporation call Helliberton that got a no bid contract...worth billions to dick and bushco ...
CORPORATE PROFITS TO WAR VICTIMS on both sides our soldiers are committing suicide 10 a day ... unreported for non corporate propaganda news go to FSTV or LINK tv Democrazy Now
quantumrai 2 years ago
LOL lots of loonies about....
turtleblues66 2 years ago
...sounds like a great strategy.
btw, wasn't he the guy who projected unemployment wouldn't eclipse 8% if we rushed the nearly one-trillion dollar stimulus package?(it's currently sitting at 10.8%)
FatbackMcGee 2 years ago
the new world order at work
obama is a fraud
mystikast 2 years ago 2
the middle east is in for a RUDE awakening. the U.N. is making serious moves now. what will YOU do when the big bad UNITED NATIONS comes for YOU? nothing. they will blow up your country, install their fiat central banks, force a huge loan on that country to rebuild it using their private contractors who profit heavily from new construction. by the way thanks for all your resources too, those will be nice. now the imf runs your banks and issues fiat indebted currency to rape you and your people.
accursedheretic 2 years ago
Obama has become a Reality TV has been.
BULLD0GBIANSKI 2 years ago
nice obama. more war drones with automatic weapons sent to kill what they believe are "inferior people." so i guess the new catholic crusade is endorsed and supported by even obama? yeah, he really favors muslims lol. way to betray your own people barack. fuckin bitch.
accursedheretic 2 years ago
"Nobel PEACE prize recipient barack hussein obama starts World War III"
LOL
maybe we should give obama an Olympic Gold Medal too since one day he might win it too. LOL
YouSmellLikePOOO 2 years ago
Obviously obama is just building up troops in the Middle East to attack Iran and start WW3.
obama reckless fiscal and monetary policies are causing the US economy to collapse, and thus the USD will no longer be chosen as the world currency reserve. obama wants to force the world to say on the USD, using the US military as instigators.
BTW, it will cost tax payers about $1 million for each obama sends to the Middle East.
YouSmellLikePOOO 2 years ago
WOW obAMA u LyiNG lyING BITCH!.....U SHALLL RECEIVE WHAT U DESERVE u bastard!!
ellokote760 2 years ago
Obama is a terorist just like Bush.
mjklable 2 years ago
Obama and his minions need are disturbed. I heard a US Army Officer say he liked Obama's exit strategy -exit strategy-gee they used to call that absolute victory. Now as the enemy cowers in fear we provide some comfort for them by telling them we aren't really serious about the whole thing and will soon be leaving!! What a farce!!
34171 2 years ago
This obama slave puppet have no choice but to kneel down to obey and suck his nazi warmonger redneck chickenhawk master, like a "good old" HOUSE NEGROE....aahahahahahaaaaa
More body bags coming home for Christmas...happy holyday all you american tools...hahahaha
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 2 years ago
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War Made Easy: How Presidents & Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death
watch?v=KN5vxOw9Elk
America needs to WAKE UP NOW!!
I am *Astounded* that the President mentions that this is not another Vietnam. *Vietnam Syndrome* the same *Rhetoric* used by Reagan and Bush 41, You see people, even President Obama has fallen into the clutches of the Military Industrial Complex.? We thought an African American elected President would change things but I guess NOT.
texas224 2 years ago
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xxramblingsxx 2 years ago
obama is a media whore
nothing less
nothing more.
TonyCook2012 2 years ago
YOU KNOW, at this rate we may lose our free speech on the internet soon. Something must be done fast to wake people up and recognize the liars we call our leaders.
GlobalDuty 2 years ago 2
Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers are the only 2 people that Obama connects with. No one else understands where he's coming from.
joebidensanass 2 years ago
Maybe TheSteveDickson is really Reverend Wright.
CaptainBubblePhD 2 years ago
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xxramblingsxx 2 years ago
Throw the jew down the well so my country can be free,
TheSteveDickson 2 years ago
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xxramblingsxx 2 years ago 2
I was very impressed on how well he read the teleprompter.
josb935 2 years ago
Obama wants troops fighting in the world in 2010 and wants no troops fighting and world peace in 2011. What a child. He needs to grow up. I'm surprised he ever managed to organize communities.
bb44332211 2 years ago
WHY 18 MONTHS. WHY 30,000 TROOPS.
567hook 2 years ago
The problem with the world is Islam. Name one Islamic country that is enjoying peace. None. Most are living in mud/dung huts. If it were not for oil they would have nothing.
567hook 2 years ago
Define peace. You should say, SOME people who HAPPEN to be muslim living in a third world country. Go die in a favela idiot!
btw where is all the oil, in indonesia(largest muslim nation)?
You make little or no sense.
micsir888 2 years ago 2
Dubai, Indonesia. They don't carry out stonings and beheading. You're just one fucking ignorant white cracker loser that just can't accept the fact that your pussy faggot white ass have been kicked in 9/11. Sore loser.
TheInvulnerableFront 2 years ago
Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Lybia, Palistine, all shit holes. Talk all you want about kicking someones ass. It was a chicken shit sucker punch against civilians. The pentagon is a legit military target. But dont use a plane load of innocent civilians as the weapon to attack it. Cowards.
567hook 2 years ago
From what I see, we are not the ones living in caves and setting up bombs to kill the enemy , kids or who ever else comes around. The cowards will not stand and fight. If they really beleive in meeting Allah, and getting 19 virgins when they die, how come they dont stand on a battle field and fight?"Faggot ass cracker"? wow, that hurt.
567hook 2 years ago
Even if they live in caves, you still get your asses kicked in 9/11 & Fort Hood. So much for the CIA & Marines. Haha. SEMPER FAG
TheInvulnerableFront 2 years ago
Fort Hood. Great example of a coward muslim striking unarmed people. But you see what happened when someone with a gun showed up to even the playing field. true cowards.
567hook 2 years ago
Look at the middle east. Sand, lots and lots of sand. Its Gods punishment for not believing in him. His wrath. Look at it if you dont believe. Name a Islamic land that is not at least the majority desert. But the real god says he will forgive you if you ask. I dont think my God says anything about killing all none believers like yours. You should thank god you have the oil that countries fight over, if it were not for that, the world would forget you exist.
567hook 2 years ago
You are a fucking moron if you actually think muslims are responsible for 9/11. Why don't you thank your friendly neighborhood CIA, the agency of the UNITED NATIONS, NOT UNITED STATES. Why don't you thank the Vatican for all their religious orders that represent most of our country's decision-making. Bow down and thank the Pope for what he has given you. Bow down before the Jesuits and the Knights of Malta. Bow down before the Israeli dual-citizens that help corrupt this country. Good Boy.
accursedheretic 2 years ago
Ok, Im going o ask a few questions. Who are the muslim highjackers in the photos. They work for the CIA? Why does Osama say he did this? Have you seen the video he put out before the attacks explaining how they were going to highjack the planes? Do you really think that the catholic church has any powere anymore.? Catholic church followers numbers are dropping. I do stand with israel and hope america always will. I hope that Israel blows the shit out of Iran. Lets get the big war going.
567hook 2 years ago
Muslims against every other religion. Winner takes all. Good luck cave dwellers. Nukes have to be cheaper than the tomahwak missles we keep shooting up their asses. 1 million each. The big bombs work wonders when trying to settle down a crazy enemy, ask Japan.
567hook 2 years ago
Although there's fucking sand & silicone everywhere, at least there's oil there. That truly is God's mercy. Look at those jews. They were persecuted by every civilizations in history & were even kicked out of their own country. Even until today there are bombs rockets raining on them LMAO. That's God's punishment. Stop whining you faggot you might have to beg for silicon in the Mid East for your breast implants one day haha
TheInvulnerableFront 2 years ago
All I know about the jews is they kicked 2 muslim countries asses when they went to war. Do the muslims really want more of Israel? It tends to not work out so good. You should be thanking the U.S.A. for asking Israel not to blow you guys off the map. One day they will. Also, "Theinvulnerablefront", calm down. I dont want you getting real mad. You might strap a bomb to yourself and walk into a store and kill innocent people.
567hook 2 years ago
Oh hell yeah I'll blow myself up & get my 72 virgins LMAO. israel are fucking pussies ok. Can't fucking do shit themselves, but had to ask USA to do shit for them. Then they brag about how they are "God's children" & god's mercy will always be with them. Oh & a fucking "terrorist" group named Hezbollah kicked Israel's ass. Gosh these events are easily forgotten by you penis-nosed fuckers.
TheInvulnerableFront 2 years ago
calm down, calm down. I worry about your temper. I think we can make the whole world better if we could just trade. We will trade Obama for Osama. You guys love Obama and we really really want Osama. Obama hates America as much as you, so he can run the show much better than Osama. I bet Osama was never a community organizer. We would just want Osama for a few min.. I think its a great deal.
567hook 2 years ago
They were persecutedand and they have been ran away, but you guys dont have anything for them. It must frustrate you guys sooooo much. Israel takes care of business when dealing with you guys, like I wish we would. Take off the gloves and stop worrying about what the world thinks. I totally respect them for that. They are gods children, sorry. p.s.- I do love seeing the idiots in palistine throwing little rocks at big tanks. Hows that working out for ya'?
567hook 2 years ago
Obama loves himself. He said " I " , 36 times last night. Why would you give a time table on pulling out? Just send the taliban a letter letting them know to hide a wait for us to leave on this certain date. Tell them to threaten the citizens of Afghan. that the american are leaving by this dat, so you better support us now. Obama is a idiot. This policy will lose. Why does Obama never use the word VICTORY. Never uses the word.
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pressurepot 2 years ago
9/11 was an inside job planned by bush
tillaylomo 2 years ago
your a tard
567hook 2 years ago
it's more of an organization. Have you ever heard theterm scape-goat. It'S like cutting the head off a hydra. Such idiocy. It's the mechanics behind it all you have dismantle. This is what a constitution stands for and we need a new one.
micsir888 2 years ago
We're now fighting a war against the 'Taliban' who didn't attack us, just to prop up the corrupt afghan govt of hamid karzai who wants to be in power , remember the 9/11 hijackers were from saudi arabia
jupiterscastle 2 years ago
Another 30,000 of the war criminals........
altarickorean 2 years ago
It's pure bull shit to expect our guys to hold back when they could be friend or foe. Don't expect our boys to be sitting ducks for those missing link subhumanoids! I know someone in my family that makes about 150 to 200 thousand dollars tax free money for 3 months work. He has been to Iraq about 6 to 8 times and is a security coordinator for the big shots. My son in law was vol. army and made pennies to protect these contractors! I smell a bad oder about our money being wasted.
billeybop 2 years ago
and another problem i have is he shouldn't be trying to help that country we should just do what we went there for and that's it kill the fuckers that attacked us and get out... and most of them are in Pakistan now we should just be bombing the hell out of the caves and be aloud to cross the border has long has they stay in Pakistan being in Afghanistan is a wast of time
davidwhistler 2 years ago
If memory serves me correctly , i believe the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi arabia. Bush invaded afghanistan because of 'training camps' that were then taken out in 7 weeks. There is no more al qeuda in afganistan , the taliban is not al queada, they are more conservative and some might even call them extreme but they are not the ones who attacked us on 9/11.
Also Al queda has bases in Saudi arabia where it was built from the ground up. Why do people keep thinkingIraq or afghnistanattackedus?
jupiterscastle 2 years ago
Because afgans don't have resources or nukes. Cowarded the US don't have balls to attack saudi or pakistan backed by china.
altarickorean 2 years ago
what is wrong with you ppl obama from the get go even before he was the president said this was the only war he believed in you knew this so why is everyone so mad at him hes been bringing troops home from iraq the only problem i have is that he didn't do this sooner when all hell was breaking lose and 30k troops are not going to get the job done if he plans on ending the war in 11 months he should be sending 150k troops
davidwhistler 2 years ago
Why can't we just accept the fact that Afghanistan is not a country to meddle & fool around with? Why can't we respect other countries' sovereignty? If USA keep thinking that they can "bully" any country at will, then they will get their asses kicked big time cause times have changed. These countries are gaining military might. The more you send troops there, the higher the dissent will be towards americans. VERY COUNTER PRODUCTIVE
TheInvulnerableFront 2 years ago
USA won't win anything in Afghanistan. This is not a fucking faggot american-made movie where USA will be the victor at the end of the day. Times have changed. Countries are becoming stronger. USA is not the sole superpower in terms of military might anymore. You send more troops there they will return home in caskets.
TheInvulnerableFront 2 years ago 2
Ah yes, hope and change. Afghan forces will never be able to take over no more than Iraq forces will be able to defend their country. We are in for a very long time. Sad too that we will lose so many of our soldiers.
NocternalRevenue 2 years ago
More people need to start waking up. He lied about EVERYTHING he said. Its scary the direction we are going.
IamASexualPredator 2 years ago 2
Obama doesn't want to succeed in eliminating terrorists. He wants to protect terrorists. He doesn't even want to hunt down the followers of terrorists in the US who log on to Yemen websites.
bb44332211 2 years ago
What a flippin drag .. .. pesky little details like national security to tend to when all he really wants to be doing is instituting the remainder of his hidden agenda and get the liberal wet dream of socialism up and running.
roscoe85cj 2 years ago
Obama continues Bush's war. Obama just became a one term president (if he's not impeached first)
lulumariemissypu 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
obama is a media whore
nothing less
nothing more.
TonyCook2012 2 years ago 2
there not leaving until they get the oil flowing
tomanyasses 2 years ago
Afghanistan is the land where Empires go to die and Obama should know better.
Pnkbong 2 years ago
we marines live for this shit bitch..let us roll no media!!!
TheMaddog780 2 years ago
all presidents are puppets. shuda kept bush lol so ud have a dumbass 2 point fingers at
badamoss 2 years ago
fuck OBAMA he is a fucking liAR LIKE AlwaYS <<<no taxes no wars NO federal GOVERnmEnt FucK thE new WORLd ORder!!!
ellokote760 2 years ago
the president is the only one that can bring them home so unil that happens We Must Support Them, not do what We did to the Vietnam troops like spitting on them when they returned.
ryen1992 2 years ago 2
naziking08 where did you get your racist views from?
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
Go and look at the 2 fascist symbols either side of were your president speaks to congress from
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
Any free news organisation would talk to the Iranian leader for his view every time our politicians discus Irans foreign policy. What better way to found out about the real Iran.
What are they afraid of, that he might have a valid argument; if not then he would expose himself as a crack pot.
My take on why the west didnt say much about alleged election fraud in Iran; because they want a leader they can have a war with. War is just a money making racket.
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
goodnight folks
Thanks for the chance to argue with my fellow Americans about issues I feel strongly about. As it should be! Long live the political discussion. All of it. Speaking out is what we need to do.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
REPO with that logic, I guess Germany ought to come over and clean up the gangs in NY.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
Jeremy Bowen a British news correspondent reported in the gulf war how 300 children had been killed by our bombs in one single attack. He was told he was being unpatriotic to get report something like that. This is insane he was just reporting events not putting a political slant on them that is news.
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
@TheOneworldonepeople
yeah and iraqi troops raped murdered and pilaged kuwait- their fcking muslim brothers- every muslim has a knife in his brother muslims back.
why dont you talk about the muslims in iraq who were hijacked in buses by al queda and then shot to death in fields- all muslims murdered by muslims
you muslim like it is one thing- but in the muslim world the denoms kill each other and hate and each other worse than they hate zionists
REPOTAG 2 years ago
You completely missed my point,
Im not a Muslim or any other religion the creator spirit is within us all.
Religions have been sometimes written by controllers but all have been hijacked as a way of controlling the masses. My point was about news reporting, News should be a presentation of facts and sources with no political comment added to them. I am an adult like you and can decide my own point of view I dont need that decision made for me.
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
Looking for Osama Bin Lauden is a pain in the ass.
lildwayne21 2 years ago
Fox News is our friend just go to their website and either reverse anything they say for the real story or just investigate what they are not talking about.
The world wide media has been focused on Tiger Woods having a domestic, wake up, that is not NEWS
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
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xxramblingsxx 2 years ago 2
ulster, I am sorry you feel that this debate is beneath your intelligence. I am only going to say, I'm intelligent and I totally "get" that there is no left or right. That's to cause distraction. Pay attention.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
ginger. sadly to say that I do know someone on dialysis. I am. And yes I support health care reform. :-) But put the conspiracy theory aside, even if you think it is true. The interests here is protecting America. I truly dont think that can be really done by withdrawing and hoping for the best. But being, I think, intelligent, I am open to hear how we can do that and still prevent attacks from being plotted in places like Afghanistan. If I hear an intelligent solution, then I will agree.
ulstermandc 2 years ago
ulster, I am sorry you are on dialysis, but do you still think Bin Laden could be alive and directing terrorism activities from a cave for 7 years? Seriously. How can your logical mind accept that? Especially since you are living the situation yourself? It's not possible.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
ginger, well until you lived with dialysis, you dont know what the human body is capable of enduring. I do. Portable dialysis unit: $1,000, priceless. Much of my time on here I debate conservatives. But those on the left can be just as irrational in their logic. I will continue to support the President because I think he is trying to solve a very bad situation he was left with. If he and our troops fail, then you will have the same situation you want now. And we will test your theory.
ulstermandc 2 years ago
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xxramblingsxx 2 years ago
I can only stomach this narcissistic, pompas "man' for so long before I actually feel ill!
FugitiveCon 2 years ago
Hey Obamabots, are you enjoying your hope and change?
FugitiveCon 2 years ago 2
50% of America's worst presidents were in office in the last 50 years. This isn't a good trend. Let's finally vote for a real leader in 2012.
joebidensanass 2 years ago
Maybe we can if Ron Paul is allowed to the debates.
GetRidOfEmo 2 years ago 3
joe, um, haven't you heard yet? The elections are fixed. The PTB own both flavors of politicians. These people socialize together along with the media and the corporations. Corrupt but cozy!
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
So many will continue on with their fairytale of ignorance and ignoring, as they always do. Nothing new, but those of us who have a bit of common sense, know. It is not to hard to see, nor required rocket science.
Now I need to get something to eat, I have been here long enough. Mostly it is spammers to hide and cover up what they dont want people to see anyway.
peace97914101 2 years ago
Barack Obama, PLEASE go fuck yourself. This is NOT what i voted for. You are a USELESS, LYING, Mother Fucker and i want your resignation now for fraud. I now despise you more than that bastard George W. Bush
onerpone 2 years ago 5
Even Obama and his groupie of clowns tried using me during the past election. Now they dont come near me, since they know they cant live up to their BS they pushed.
peace97914101 2 years ago
peace, you should hear me when I'm approached. LOL. They don't dare call me now.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
Barry O-Commander & Chief Civil Right Advocate In Charge of Military Confrontations Worldwide.
Hussein The Insane-Leader of The Previous Free World-AKA-The United States of Multicultural Diversity and World Wide:Assistance,Intervention,Rescue,
Nation Building/Acceptance/Inclusion/
Love,Peace and Understanding/Change and The Redistribution of all wealth at any price & re election at any cost including: war/bankruptcy,genocide,financial collapse,lieing,cheating.stealing & corruption Obama
.
TheHauptsturmfuhrer 2 years ago
Listen Rev. Wright, Why don't you google psychiatrists and get some help.
bb44332211 2 years ago
All government does is put up taxes to create more laws of control.
We only need one law but that would be too easy and no money in it.
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
See this is what we call being a Hypocrite America.
In God We Trust.
So where is the trust?
peace97914101 2 years ago
This Obama kinda makes me feel like the car salesman just went in the back to "speak to his manager" while i sit there sipping my free coffee for some "stimulus"
GetRidOfEmo 2 years ago
Today I googled for Nazi criminals in government.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
TheOneworld--- Your mother is calling you. You better get off the computer and take your medication.
bb44332211 2 years ago
very nice they always shoot the messenger
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
They have even Idolized the money.
Opps.
peace97914101 2 years ago
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."
Wow Washington. Big time fail.
peace97914101 2 years ago
This is an impressive Presidential speech... wow!
He is clear on his rational for the war and the ending of the war. He's stuck with having to spend billions on this war started in 2002. The man thinks and speaks well....
Pkr 2 years ago
Thou shall not Steal
Another sin.
peace97914101 2 years ago
You bloggers better put some foil on your keyboards. The CIA might find a back door into your computer and start controlling your thoughts.
bb44332211 2 years ago
bb44332211
they are already controlling yours
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
bb44 I talk to the CIA and NSA all the time. I simply go to Google and start typing. I talk to my cell phone and tell them to just call me and I'll tell them everything, no need to SPY on me.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
They also Idolize themselves on the TV. Opps. Another Sin.
peace97914101 2 years ago
He did say God Bless America.
Welp what did God Say?
"Thou Shall not Kill"
An illegal war is Murder. So again, should be thinking about who is writing those speeches and what he says. Committing some pretty nasty sins there Washington. So they either believe in God or they do not. Seems to me it is a pretty big show for them.
peace97914101 2 years ago
So let me get this straight! We're Fighting for Peace? Isn't that an oxymoron? Like dying to live? Killing to save life?
I call BULLSHIT! OBAMA - One & Done!
UsedNewsToday 2 years ago 2
Samurai X: Trust and Betrayel
/watch?v=T6QJLdeIcL4
These are simple lessons in history, which the slave masters ignore, all while at the same time pretending they have some sort of intellectual knowledge behind them.
peace97914101 2 years ago
I didn't realize Rev. Jeremiah Wright was here blogging about his conspiracy theories. So Rev, are you still wearing foil on you head, or did you remember to take your medication today?
bb44332211 2 years ago
bb44332211
All I can say you were warned. So when youre not allowed to drive more than 25 miles from your home address in your SUV without a special travel permit, dont say we didnt tell you.
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago 2
We need to end this "war" before we are forced to. When the dollar collapses, it won't even be a debate.
VictoryCough 2 years ago
The Taliban defeated the CIA backed mujahedeen and destroyed all the CIA poppy fields there is your reason for the war in Afghanistan.
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
the cia poppy fields ?- boy you are a major retard.
trojanspaghetti 2 years ago
Oneworld, we certainly can't have those terrorists destroying the local farming over there.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
What local farming, how many of your farms are independently run?
How many are closed as a direct result of government policy?
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
One world, my attempt at humor. Poppy fields. Lots of them.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
The war truly ends, when the military decides they have had enough, and turn around the Boats, planes and tanks.
peace97914101 2 years ago
If this man is telling the truth then he should by all rights napom all the poppy fields in that country. Will he do it?
CP91311 2 years ago
That is true.
REPOTAG 2 years ago
So 19 CiA agent's hijacked those planes? I don't think so.
bb44332211 2 years ago
bb5 how would we know what happened on 911 until it is investigated? A plane didn't hit the Pentagon nor crash in PA so what did happen?
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
No matter how much you love Islam, you can't live your life pretending that terrorists don't exist.
bb44332211 2 years ago 2
Yes they are called the CIA
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
@bb44332211 No matter how some of you love war and death, you cant pretend that it is moronic and stupid.
peace97914101 2 years ago
Word
GetRidOfEmo 2 years ago
Any of you notice the eyes and the faces of the troops during that speech?
It seems to me that those they are pretty sick of the war, and fighting. Some look as if they were going to cry.
peace97914101 2 years ago
peace, I noticed. I think it's because they knew he was lying to them and they hoped for truth.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
@gingerpyle24 Agreed. So who do you think really runs the show. Obama? Or the military who can say they have had enough and refuse to go? Hmmmm? For the life of me, I do not understand why they continue to listen to these clowns on the hill.
peace97914101 2 years ago
when these troops come home- you can watch your kids get their arms and legs blown off waiting for the school bus the next morning- yeah, you are a stupid idiot- you dont remember 911 or the Ft Hood shootings ?
REPOTAG 2 years ago
REPO are you really afraid of having your kids on a school bus? Frankly I'm more afraid of picking up mail at the federal building with sharpshooters looking down from the upstairs windows.
gingerpyle24 2 years ago
All the more reason we should be helping security over here and securing our borders. The only thing we are doing over there is making them hate us more, hence why 911 occurred in the first place.
Zoklor 2 years ago 2
Or you can do things like never place troops and bases in Saudi Arabia because that is something many Muslims see as defiling their holy land.. Note. many of the 9/11 attackers were Saudis. See any connection?
GetRidOfEmo 2 years ago 2
this is the stupidest comment i have seen in a long time
all the saudi women would be in iraqi brothels right now if the saudis had not asked us onto their soil to form a shield because their useless muslim troops were not worth sht.
you know the muslims are full of sht because they were diapers on their heads.
REPOTAG 2 years ago