I hope for Art's sake that music such as this can sprout again, whether from those inspired and willful few, or those fewer whose magnificence has been born with them. May society never deter the Beauty of Art with its wrong majority. May Art grow forever!
I have not heard of this quartet before (I mean the players). My set of the late quartets is the Guarneri reading -- years ago I had Budapest on vinyl, and I loved it too. This one is a very sensitive performance -- thank you for posting.
@manthasagittarius There is more information, including their ASV discography which you can find by searching for "Lindsay String Quartet" on Wikipedia
I remember 2 years ago i went to enigma string quartet with my grandmother my violin teacher and her friend and they played this and schuberts death and the maiden
This is truly a grand composition and interpretation thereof. However, has anyone noted that there is a cut in the recording between 3:02 and 3:10? Does anyone know why? I cannot look at the score, but I doubt that something has been cut; I am just curious. Thanks.
It is with the utmost confidence that I count Beethoven the greatest of all composers. He touches my soul on a deeper level than any other can, and above all, he represents what makes music the most perfect art of all.
Well, I do have a hard time between the two. True, Bach was the most intellectually gifted and probably most talented of all, but to me, Beethoven's music says too much to be second place. They are all great for different reasons; that's why we listen to them.
Ugh, I have to say that comment encapsulates a great deal of what has gone wrong with the classical strain of music. Obsession with "Best" not to mention perfectionism is driving A whole world of Music into the oblivion. Composers didnt compete as much as collaborate, and what comes of bach's music without Everyone and everything that comes before and after? And It is time do abandon perfectionism and get off the pedestals that are not our own, time for transcendence, my dear.
My dear, the experts are wrong, and perhaps a reminder is necessary that Beethoven regarded Handel as the greatest composer. He and Beethoven are the twin peaks of the art of music - really we don't need to consider the likes of Bach or Mozart in this regard.
@RodCorkin1..Just because Beethoven states in his last year of life that he likes Handel, doesn't mean his 30 years studying Mozart didnt go unnoticed..It just means the ranking goes like this (according to Beethoven) 1) Mozart 2) Handel 3) Beethoven..Do you believe that? Mozart is probably #1..But it's a toss up for #2
@RodCorkin1 Beethoven didn't know a lot of J.S. Bach pieces... and since Handel, as agreed by almost all musicologists and composers,is inferior to Bach, I guess we can conclude that Bach is the best no?
Only those who know little of Handel would rate JS Bach the superior, which you are correct includes most so-called musicologists. There are so far 32 topics on Bach's church cantatas alone at my Classical Music Mayhem!! website, so be assured I have heard a hell of a lot more Bach than most Bachians have of Handel, and my unbiased assessment is that Beethoven got it right about Handel. Handel is the King of Baroque.
@RodCorkin1 Handel the King of Baroque? In what ways exactly? Do not assume I haven't heard Handel - I've heard all his well respected works as well as many lesser known works. Handel often shares a degree of "perfection" in his works like Bach but often lacks in depth or less depth than Bach's works. And I assure you that I, musicologists, composers, scientists, philosophers, etc. have heard enough of Handel to make a firm decision.
You are entitled to your opinion, and I stick to mine, but you comment that Handel lacks depth (in relation to Bach or any composer) is nonsense and leads me believe you know nothing of Handel or music in general. I have no interest in the opinions of your 'Establishment' figures, in the realm of art you cannot learn or be taught good taste, which I guess is why Handel's operas an many other big works and cantatas were forgotten by the great and good for 200 years or more. Finis
@RodCorkin1 No taste in music; it's all about priorities, belief, and experience. I should have specified that Handel lacks depth in many less-famous works. Still, it's ridiculous to elevate Handel to Bach's level. Maybe you just haven't heard/ played decent interpretations (or enough) of Bach? After all, it's much harder to render Bach's works than Handel's successfully. I only use these "establishment" figures since no words can describe my spiritual experience with Bach (or Handel).
This is proof you dont really know what you are talking about, much of Handel's music was not even performed or recorded until the late 1980's and 90's, and we are still getting word premiere's of big Handel works and cantatas in the 21st Century. For some of the oratorios there are still only one or two recordings to chose from, and those are not good performances in any case. I have made 100's of comments on Bach's music and the best recordings at CMM. See you there. Done here
@RodCorkin1 Hilarious. After searching for some Handel CDs, I came across a Handel vs Bach topic that you created. My "spiritual worship nonsense" actually makes far more sense than uploading music clips of Handel and prompting others to do the same for Bach's, only to say "oh his music lacks depth". I can see that CMM is a serious music forum; everyone pretty much saw that you are an ignoramus beyond hope.
@RodCorkin1 I don't see how a music forum can be "serious" if one of its member actually considers Handel to be superior to J.S. Bach. Please consider taking some music theory classes - taught by a proficient teacher - and listening to some decent interpretations.
I must say that I disagree with your opinion.How can you compare Bach,Beethoven and Mozart?Their compositions are undeniably different than each other.I think it is fallacious to rank geniuses.However there is no doubts about the divine music of Bach but does that mean that he is better than Mozart or Beethoven?
Slaugterhouse, I agree with elias12186, if you tell your age friends, must of theme will try to quit yourself from classical music, just go ahead with no ears, you will enjoy it, thats for sure, Congratulations!!
i am starting to play guitar cant play worth a dam at the moment I have an acoustic I was wondering how to go about learning guitar from a classical standpoint because all of this music just enthralls me
Get yourself a teacher! It costs money and is a pain in the butt, but you will learn good technique and one day be able to rock out. It is much harder to learn alone, and you will develop bad techniques which will be much harder to correct.
What elias said,find a teacher that teaches only classical to the top level.Grade 10.For the grade 10 exam you will probably have to play an hour long bach piece,ouch.
i have no idea of this music at all as of the terminology and such of the craft i am only 16 and this is probably the most amazing thing I have heard before
@elias12186 I know right! I'm only sixteen and if I told my friends that I enjoy classical music they would make fun of me just because I enjoy classical music.
Your comment gives me hope because of young poeple like you it is very likely that true music will survive for the future my dear friend, keep playing your guitar and never quit, NEVER!! Trust me I grew up on Metal and Rock and Roll and the great Composers are literally my gods, may god bless your soul. And yes this quartet is Beautiful.
@TheSlaughterhouse I agree with elias12186. My friends laugh at me for listening to classical music, while they listen to whats at the top10. In my head, I laugh quietly at them.
the sniffing entirely takes away from the music for me. :(
CUBassoon 5 days ago
What is better Beethoven opus 130 or op 131?
hammyhamlet411 2 weeks ago
the tonal manipulation is magnificent
martinsteve1349 3 months ago
@martinsteve1349 interested to know what this means/what you mean by this
darktowersl 2 months ago
@darktowersl im guessing hes just a pseudo
sofuckyouyeah 2 months ago
I hope for Art's sake that music such as this can sprout again, whether from those inspired and willful few, or those fewer whose magnificence has been born with them. May society never deter the Beauty of Art with its wrong majority. May Art grow forever!
cstrey14 5 months ago 2
I have not heard of this quartet before (I mean the players). My set of the late quartets is the Guarneri reading -- years ago I had Budapest on vinyl, and I loved it too. This one is a very sensitive performance -- thank you for posting.
manthasagittarius 7 months ago
@manthasagittarius There is more information, including their ASV discography which you can find by searching for "Lindsay String Quartet" on Wikipedia
alexglondon 6 months ago
@alexglondon Thanks! They look very good.
manthasagittarius 6 months ago
1 dislike from beethoven...cos only he know he can interpret this piece better.
whneo97 11 months ago 16
@whneo97 Actually, he couldn't hear this guys playing, lol.
Anormalista89 6 months ago
@whneo97 lol... good one... ;p
earthypig 6 months ago
@whneo97 Or maybe he disliked it cos he couldn't hear it
msnoranettlerash 4 months ago
superiority is an opinion not a fact
Masterreese1 1 year ago
justin beiber
jcarlson0320 1 year ago
Is it just me or does the number '14' seem like a lucky number for string quartets?
-Beethoven's - probably his most famous
-Mozart's - the first 'Haydn' quartet
-Schubert - Death and the Maiden
nevohteebdnatrazom 1 year ago
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2natw 1 year ago
I remember 2 years ago i went to enigma string quartet with my grandmother my violin teacher and her friend and they played this and schuberts death and the maiden
kingleoric100 1 year ago
This is truly a grand composition and interpretation thereof. However, has anyone noted that there is a cut in the recording between 3:02 and 3:10? Does anyone know why? I cannot look at the score, but I doubt that something has been cut; I am just curious. Thanks.
Divinemetal 1 year ago
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Snoop dogg is much a better artist than Beethoven! Open your eyes ... people!
YoLninYo 2 years ago
I will literally eat you alive.
euph11 2 years ago 3
Yolininyo....you are a big ass-hole garbage
UltraStarGod20 2 years ago
It is with the utmost confidence that I count Beethoven the greatest of all composers. He touches my soul on a deeper level than any other can, and above all, he represents what makes music the most perfect art of all.
davidjb100 2 years ago
The most perfect art of all?
There is no such thing.
Revollving 2 years ago
True enough. Art can never be perfect, or else there is no room for advancement. Still, music comes pretty-darn close. ;)
davidjb100 2 years ago 2
my dear, all the experts on the subject consider Bach the best of all composers, till now, & 2nd place disputed btwn Mozart & Beethoven
jewish1972 1 year ago
Well, I do have a hard time between the two. True, Bach was the most intellectually gifted and probably most talented of all, but to me, Beethoven's music says too much to be second place. They are all great for different reasons; that's why we listen to them.
davidjb100 1 year ago
@jewish1972
Ugh, I have to say that comment encapsulates a great deal of what has gone wrong with the classical strain of music. Obsession with "Best" not to mention perfectionism is driving A whole world of Music into the oblivion. Composers didnt compete as much as collaborate, and what comes of bach's music without Everyone and everything that comes before and after? And It is time do abandon perfectionism and get off the pedestals that are not our own, time for transcendence, my dear.
Darean51 1 year ago
@jewish1972
My dear, the experts are wrong, and perhaps a reminder is necessary that Beethoven regarded Handel as the greatest composer. He and Beethoven are the twin peaks of the art of music - really we don't need to consider the likes of Bach or Mozart in this regard.
RodCorkin1 1 year ago
@RodCorkin1 Indeed! Mozart's Counterpoint was nothing like that of Beethoven and Hyden. These two were the best in my humble opinion.
schoir73671 1 year ago
@RodCorkin1..Just because Beethoven states in his last year of life that he likes Handel, doesn't mean his 30 years studying Mozart didnt go unnoticed..It just means the ranking goes like this (according to Beethoven) 1) Mozart 2) Handel 3) Beethoven..Do you believe that? Mozart is probably #1..But it's a toss up for #2
beethovenlovedmozart 1 year ago
@beethovenlovedmozart
"Handel is the greatest composer who ever lived. I would bare my head and kneel at his grave" -- L.v. Beethoven, 1824
RodCorkin1 1 year ago
@RodCorkin1 Beethoven didn't know a lot of J.S. Bach pieces... and since Handel, as agreed by almost all musicologists and composers,is inferior to Bach, I guess we can conclude that Bach is the best no?
NimbleTurtle13 1 year ago
@NimbleTurtle13
Only those who know little of Handel would rate JS Bach the superior, which you are correct includes most so-called musicologists. There are so far 32 topics on Bach's church cantatas alone at my Classical Music Mayhem!! website, so be assured I have heard a hell of a lot more Bach than most Bachians have of Handel, and my unbiased assessment is that Beethoven got it right about Handel. Handel is the King of Baroque.
RodCorkin1 1 year ago
@RodCorkin1 Handel the King of Baroque? In what ways exactly? Do not assume I haven't heard Handel - I've heard all his well respected works as well as many lesser known works. Handel often shares a degree of "perfection" in his works like Bach but often lacks in depth or less depth than Bach's works. And I assure you that I, musicologists, composers, scientists, philosophers, etc. have heard enough of Handel to make a firm decision.
NimbleTurtle13 1 year ago
@NimbleTurtle13
You are entitled to your opinion, and I stick to mine, but you comment that Handel lacks depth (in relation to Bach or any composer) is nonsense and leads me believe you know nothing of Handel or music in general. I have no interest in the opinions of your 'Establishment' figures, in the realm of art you cannot learn or be taught good taste, which I guess is why Handel's operas an many other big works and cantatas were forgotten by the great and good for 200 years or more. Finis
RodCorkin1 1 year ago
@RodCorkin1 No taste in music; it's all about priorities, belief, and experience. I should have specified that Handel lacks depth in many less-famous works. Still, it's ridiculous to elevate Handel to Bach's level. Maybe you just haven't heard/ played decent interpretations (or enough) of Bach? After all, it's much harder to render Bach's works than Handel's successfully. I only use these "establishment" figures since no words can describe my spiritual experience with Bach (or Handel).
NimbleTurtle13 1 year ago
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RodCorkin1 1 year ago
@NimbleTurtle13
This is proof you dont really know what you are talking about, much of Handel's music was not even performed or recorded until the late 1980's and 90's, and we are still getting word premiere's of big Handel works and cantatas in the 21st Century. For some of the oratorios there are still only one or two recordings to chose from, and those are not good performances in any case. I have made 100's of comments on Bach's music and the best recordings at CMM. See you there. Done here
RodCorkin1 1 year ago
@RodCorkin1 Hilarious. After searching for some Handel CDs, I came across a Handel vs Bach topic that you created. My "spiritual worship nonsense" actually makes far more sense than uploading music clips of Handel and prompting others to do the same for Bach's, only to say "oh his music lacks depth". I can see that CMM is a serious music forum; everyone pretty much saw that you are an ignoramus beyond hope.
NimbleTurtle13 9 months ago
@NimbleTurtle13
Actually you better not come to CMM, it's a serious music forum and if you spout your 'spiritual' cult worship nonsence there you'll be eaten alive.
RodCorkin1 1 year ago
@RodCorkin1 I don't see how a music forum can be "serious" if one of its member actually considers Handel to be superior to J.S. Bach. Please consider taking some music theory classes - taught by a proficient teacher - and listening to some decent interpretations.
NimbleTurtle13 1 year ago
I must say that I disagree with your opinion.How can you compare Bach,Beethoven and Mozart?Their compositions are undeniably different than each other.I think it is fallacious to rank geniuses.However there is no doubts about the divine music of Bach but does that mean that he is better than Mozart or Beethoven?
The55555SSSSS 1 year ago
My kids listen to this, and Robert Johnson, even Frank Zappa...they grew up with it. Their friends listen, too.
louiseduvee 2 years ago 2
Slaugterhouse, I agree with elias12186, if you tell your age friends, must of theme will try to quit yourself from classical music, just go ahead with no ears, you will enjoy it, thats for sure, Congratulations!!
epifaniopineda 2 years ago
i am starting to play guitar cant play worth a dam at the moment I have an acoustic I was wondering how to go about learning guitar from a classical standpoint because all of this music just enthralls me
TheSlaughterhouse 2 years ago 5
Get yourself a teacher! It costs money and is a pain in the butt, but you will learn good technique and one day be able to rock out. It is much harder to learn alone, and you will develop bad techniques which will be much harder to correct.
elias12186 2 years ago
@elias12186 i want to buy this on CD, would you reccomend this (Lindsay String Quartet) version? thanks
MyoyuMusic 1 year ago
What elias said,find a teacher that teaches only classical to the top level.Grade 10.For the grade 10 exam you will probably have to play an hour long bach piece,ouch.
MrBRL 2 years ago
i have no idea of this music at all as of the terminology and such of the craft i am only 16 and this is probably the most amazing thing I have heard before
TheSlaughterhouse 2 years ago 15
Very good :) Just don't show your friends, they will not understand it!
elias12186 2 years ago 13
YEP, 15 here.
rcc400 2 years ago
hehehee very true
eddiemperor 2 years ago
@elias12186 Hahahaha so true.
GryphonWahle 2 years ago
@elias12186 I know right! I'm only sixteen and if I told my friends that I enjoy classical music they would make fun of me just because I enjoy classical music.
Rhodes7652 1 year ago
@elias12186 ha, this reminds me of my friend who said he didn't like bach because you can't dance to it.
MagicDolphinGO 1 year ago
@elias12186 He should show his friends! They'll come around.
Guitarist0001 1 year ago
@elias12186
classical music is for everyone
musicJustus 6 months ago
@musicJustus Absolutely.
mightyafrowhitey 6 months ago
Your comment gives me hope because of young poeple like you it is very likely that true music will survive for the future my dear friend, keep playing your guitar and never quit, NEVER!! Trust me I grew up on Metal and Rock and Roll and the great Composers are literally my gods, may god bless your soul. And yes this quartet is Beautiful.
eddiemperor 2 years ago
@TheSlaughterhouse Don't worry, he wrote it so that it would sound good, not so that you could learn all the terms!
jawnps 11 months ago 2
@TheSlaughterhouse I agree with elias12186. My friends laugh at me for listening to classical music, while they listen to whats at the top10. In my head, I laugh quietly at them.
dildoronk 4 months ago 3
@dildoronk I tend to listen to both, and I am elitist in my anti-elitism
Exanimousx 4 months ago
i love the stark contrast between this movement and the 1st.
clarksc1988 3 years ago 7
el 1mv es brutal
garmasan 3 years ago