Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
I actually think both Hitchens and the questioner were right in their own respective ways. Radical muslims are intolerant, without question and they shouldnt be coddled by spineless leftists. At the same time, I think the U.S. would be better off stopping trying to influence the politics of such barbarians and let them rot. That way they have no one to blame but themselves for their lot in life. I think Ronald Reagan had it right when defending his decision to withdraw troops from Lebanon
A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete: the US supported a coup that extinguished Iran's only democratically elected government and supported the Shah's brutal regime instead. It supports Israel almost unconditionally. The USSR invaded Afghanistan, and the US supported the Taliban against them. Al Qaida wasn't the initial response; it came later and rode on the back of the already-present hate for the "west."
@sazji That 'already-present hate for the west' of which you speak was stoked and fueled for decades by Islamic dictators and mullahs throughout the Middle East. Resentful of western prosperity and freedom despite possessing what they regarded as a superior holy book they created a counterpart ideology rooted in resent and superstition. This inferiority complex manifested itself in resurgent extremist Islam.
@ZF1000 Oh come off it; that's a lame-ass Bush-ism, that nobody would have dared be so stupid to put forth prior to the Great Imbecile. Go to Iran today; you'll find that most people have no trouble with you at all, they just resent British and US politics that fucked their country for decades. Talk to a Palestinian who has lived his entire life in a refugee camp. Talk to an Iraqi whose brutal dictator was supported by the US until it became inconvenient to do so. Put yourself in their place.
@sazji It is a complete falsehood to suggest Al Qaeda was born out of Muslims being oppressed by Western imperialism and having had enough with foreign interventions; no, I won't accept that. Islamism surfaced without the help of the outside world and Muslims have to take responsibility for that. You can't just shirk blame by pinning it on outsiders. India suffered immensely during partition but it became a pluralist democracy and is now one of the fastest growing economies in Asia.
@ZF1000 I didn't say it was; if you think I did, you didn't read my post. I said that the general resentment towards the west grew out of western (and not just US) imperialism and meddling. Al-Qaida took advantage of that resentment and uses it to its own political ends. My point is, if it weren't for an already-present resentment of the west, and for pretty logical reasons, Al-Qaida would have had nothing to draw upon.
@sazji I did read your post and understood you very well. You said 'The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete' and that Al Qaeda 'rode on the back of the already-present hate for the west' and I retorted by saying 'It is a complete falsehood to suggest Al Qaeda was born out of Muslims being oppressed by Western imperialism.' You entirely avoided answering my point about Muslims taking responsibility for Islamism and my comparison with the democracy of India.
@ZF1000 'The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete' - Yes, they were, and are. This is the resentment which Al-Qaida has taken advantage of. As for "taking responsibility" - how? Each person is responsible for his own actions. I don't "take responsibility" for Orthodox Christians' massacres of Turkish villagers in 1915. I admit it was horrendously wrong, just as most Muslims don't see the actions of a government as justification for slaughter of innocents.
@sazji You have to ask yourself the question why the Middle East is so backward and undemocratic compared to the rest of the world. The answer is not 'actions by Christian nations.' It is easy to blame foreigners for being in a bad situation. India suffered much more from colonialism than the Middle East yet Indians harbour no resent towards the West today and have created the most populous pluralist democracy in the world. Muslim Pakistan by contrast has regressed into barbarism and self-pity.
I'm usually with Christopher Hitchens but not on this one. All of his examples of Islamic craziness are post-Islamic radicalism. The question is not whether there is Islamic radicalism and violence in the name of Islam; it's what drove people to it in the first place. What led to Al Qaida, what gave rise to the Taliban, who supported Saddam as he gassed his own people, what actions by the US left the Iranians little choice but to organize around religion? He avoids the question.
Hitchens is AMAZING! One fail swoop is all it takes to point out the lunacy of the left in this regard. One hand is held up in protest against oppression, the other is held up to prevent anything be done about it whilst at the same time loudly chest- thumping and accusing America of attempted 'colonization' and oil theft.
Funny ,but we've been there 9 years and the nations at the front of the que in the oil auctions are the same ones that opposed it in the first place. hmmmm
@kolkrabe19 Can't be a jew and an atheist, being that it's a religion, and not a culture, It's as much a culture as any other religion that forces indoctrination on their children.. As this is the only valid distinction.
@kolkrabe19 No, Jews are not atheists, the core of their beliefs are god. While there may be people out there who consider themselves Jews and Atheists, they are mistaken. Judaism is not a culture, they merely identify themselves, using poor phrasing and defining things for themselves.
They don't understand what they are doing, they want to be proud of being identified as part of a religion but having none? Cherry picking.
@LegendaryAsshole That "god" isn´t universal as it promotes Jews exclusively in return for worship, & that´s why it shouldn´t be confused with the Christian God, which they spell g-d, & that not for no reason. Their god is their group spirit. Gilad Atzmon explained it in very simple terms, look it up. Nowadays the Jews want to be identified with "The Holocaust", by which they want to achieve untouchability, & it is now their cultural denominator as rejected minority among barbarians, the goyim.
@LegendaryAsshole That´s your private opinion. Point is, Jews believe they have a god that promotes them exclusively. And that´s the philosophy behind Jewish parasitism. You get it now ?
@kolkrabe19 Jews don't believe that god "promotes" them over other religions (I can't believe I even have to explain this); rather, there are different expectations. under judaism, anyone--regardless of their religion--can go to heaven. I bet that's what you believe too, right? It's very funny when you think about it....you're most like the conception you have of jews then what judaism really is. okay, back to the tea party you go now.
@kolkrabe19 Holy cow you're one big idiot. Some Jews spell god as "G-d" as a sign of respect; perhaps along the same lines of logic as noting using god's name in vein. They do this generally, whenever they spell god; whether referring to the muslim, chritian, or whatever god. but most jews don't leave out the "o", hence the discrepancy.
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Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
tigersforchrist 1 week ago
sad that he is dying now.
ihatebobsaget1989 6 months ago
I actually think both Hitchens and the questioner were right in their own respective ways. Radical muslims are intolerant, without question and they shouldnt be coddled by spineless leftists. At the same time, I think the U.S. would be better off stopping trying to influence the politics of such barbarians and let them rot. That way they have no one to blame but themselves for their lot in life. I think Ronald Reagan had it right when defending his decision to withdraw troops from Lebanon
AliceNchainz011 6 months ago
@AliceNchainz011 SHUDDUP, you equivocal dick!
beeroosterm 5 months ago
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AliceNchainz011 5 months ago
@AliceNchainz011 Sorry, I meant an unequivocal fag.
beeroosterm 5 months ago
Hitch can ham it up, but why the hell not, he's on a stage.
benaberry 6 months ago
Am I the only one who thinks that Hitch is being a bit hysterical here?
berrylict 6 months ago
@berrylict Yes.
beeroosterm 5 months ago
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he has no respect for the little people
zackhanscom 7 months ago
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A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
QuestionForAtheists 7 months ago
The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete: the US supported a coup that extinguished Iran's only democratically elected government and supported the Shah's brutal regime instead. It supports Israel almost unconditionally. The USSR invaded Afghanistan, and the US supported the Taliban against them. Al Qaida wasn't the initial response; it came later and rode on the back of the already-present hate for the "west."
sazji 7 months ago
@sazji That 'already-present hate for the west' of which you speak was stoked and fueled for decades by Islamic dictators and mullahs throughout the Middle East. Resentful of western prosperity and freedom despite possessing what they regarded as a superior holy book they created a counterpart ideology rooted in resent and superstition. This inferiority complex manifested itself in resurgent extremist Islam.
ZF1000 7 months ago
@ZF1000 Oh come off it; that's a lame-ass Bush-ism, that nobody would have dared be so stupid to put forth prior to the Great Imbecile. Go to Iran today; you'll find that most people have no trouble with you at all, they just resent British and US politics that fucked their country for decades. Talk to a Palestinian who has lived his entire life in a refugee camp. Talk to an Iraqi whose brutal dictator was supported by the US until it became inconvenient to do so. Put yourself in their place.
sazji 7 months ago
@sazji It is a complete falsehood to suggest Al Qaeda was born out of Muslims being oppressed by Western imperialism and having had enough with foreign interventions; no, I won't accept that. Islamism surfaced without the help of the outside world and Muslims have to take responsibility for that. You can't just shirk blame by pinning it on outsiders. India suffered immensely during partition but it became a pluralist democracy and is now one of the fastest growing economies in Asia.
ZF1000 7 months ago
@ZF1000 I didn't say it was; if you think I did, you didn't read my post. I said that the general resentment towards the west grew out of western (and not just US) imperialism and meddling. Al-Qaida took advantage of that resentment and uses it to its own political ends. My point is, if it weren't for an already-present resentment of the west, and for pretty logical reasons, Al-Qaida would have had nothing to draw upon.
sazji 7 months ago
@sazji I did read your post and understood you very well. You said 'The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete' and that Al Qaeda 'rode on the back of the already-present hate for the west' and I retorted by saying 'It is a complete falsehood to suggest Al Qaeda was born out of Muslims being oppressed by Western imperialism.' You entirely avoided answering my point about Muslims taking responsibility for Islamism and my comparison with the democracy of India.
ZF1000 7 months ago
@ZF1000 'The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete' - Yes, they were, and are. This is the resentment which Al-Qaida has taken advantage of. As for "taking responsibility" - how? Each person is responsible for his own actions. I don't "take responsibility" for Orthodox Christians' massacres of Turkish villagers in 1915. I admit it was horrendously wrong, just as most Muslims don't see the actions of a government as justification for slaughter of innocents.
sazji 7 months ago
@sazji You have to ask yourself the question why the Middle East is so backward and undemocratic compared to the rest of the world. The answer is not 'actions by Christian nations.' It is easy to blame foreigners for being in a bad situation. India suffered much more from colonialism than the Middle East yet Indians harbour no resent towards the West today and have created the most populous pluralist democracy in the world. Muslim Pakistan by contrast has regressed into barbarism and self-pity.
ZF1000 7 months ago
I'm usually with Christopher Hitchens but not on this one. All of his examples of Islamic craziness are post-Islamic radicalism. The question is not whether there is Islamic radicalism and violence in the name of Islam; it's what drove people to it in the first place. What led to Al Qaida, what gave rise to the Taliban, who supported Saddam as he gassed his own people, what actions by the US left the Iranians little choice but to organize around religion? He avoids the question.
sazji 7 months ago
hitchslap!
sundayraver 7 months ago
Hitchens is AMAZING! One fail swoop is all it takes to point out the lunacy of the left in this regard. One hand is held up in protest against oppression, the other is held up to prevent anything be done about it whilst at the same time loudly chest- thumping and accusing America of attempted 'colonization' and oil theft.
Funny ,but we've been there 9 years and the nations at the front of the que in the oil auctions are the same ones that opposed it in the first place. hmmmm
deluxmatty01 7 months ago 10
Is Hitchens a Jew ?
kolkrabe19 8 months ago
@kolkrabe19 Can't be a jew and an atheist, being that it's a religion, and not a culture, It's as much a culture as any other religion that forces indoctrination on their children.. As this is the only valid distinction.
LegendaryAsshole 8 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole Jews are atheists, in the religious sense. Is Hitchen working for the Jews ?
kolkrabe19 8 months ago
@kolkrabe19 No, Jews are not atheists, the core of their beliefs are god. While there may be people out there who consider themselves Jews and Atheists, they are mistaken. Judaism is not a culture, they merely identify themselves, using poor phrasing and defining things for themselves.
They don't understand what they are doing, they want to be proud of being identified as part of a religion but having none? Cherry picking.
LegendaryAsshole 8 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole That "god" isn´t universal as it promotes Jews exclusively in return for worship, & that´s why it shouldn´t be confused with the Christian God, which they spell g-d, & that not for no reason. Their god is their group spirit. Gilad Atzmon explained it in very simple terms, look it up. Nowadays the Jews want to be identified with "The Holocaust", by which they want to achieve untouchability, & it is now their cultural denominator as rejected minority among barbarians, the goyim.
kolkrabe19 8 months ago
@kolkrabe19 No god is universal. they are all abstract notions and human behavior personified as humanoid in appearance . It's all fantasy.
LegendaryAsshole 8 months ago 8
@LegendaryAsshole That´s your private opinion. Point is, Jews believe they have a god that promotes them exclusively. And that´s the philosophy behind Jewish parasitism. You get it now ?
kolkrabe19 8 months ago
@kolkrabe19 Jews don't believe that god "promotes" them over other religions (I can't believe I even have to explain this); rather, there are different expectations. under judaism, anyone--regardless of their religion--can go to heaven. I bet that's what you believe too, right? It's very funny when you think about it....you're most like the conception you have of jews then what judaism really is. okay, back to the tea party you go now.
pejj1 8 months ago
@pejj1 Explain to me the philosophy behind Jewish parasitism.
kolkrabe19 8 months ago
@kolkrabe19 retard. nothing can be explained to a redneck like u.
MrViTopol 7 months ago
@kolkrabe19 Holy cow you're one big idiot. Some Jews spell god as "G-d" as a sign of respect; perhaps along the same lines of logic as noting using god's name in vein. They do this generally, whenever they spell god; whether referring to the muslim, chritian, or whatever god. but most jews don't leave out the "o", hence the discrepancy.
pejj1 8 months ago
@pejj1 idiot. there's no your type of spelling in Hebrew
MrViTopol 7 months ago