hogan turns his back on his beloved fans & joins the new world order......sting, lugar, savage, flair & the 4horseman combat the nWo....WCW then turn their back on sting because of the fake nWo sting....great storyline from 96-late 97.....wcw's best years
see, its the little things that noone noticed that ended up killing wcw..sure, the whole outsiders thing was awesome and revolutionary, but...notice how quickly all the attention was taken away from a good match as soon as they showed up...what shoulda happened, and what woulda made more sense, was if arn and sting put the match aside and united against hall and nash, and forgot the match , rather then have it end in a split second when arn botched a ddt and then sting submitted him....stupid!!!
"we gotta crash the party? you should be begging us to come in the door." fucking awesome Hall was so cool and the best part of the nWo he brought them their swag.
@rpowers3677 WCW was bar-none the best gai-jin (American) wrestling league ever and I personally believe it was even better than Japan's best circuits (New Japan, All Japan and GAEA) when WCW was going strong. When gai-jin wrestling (which is typically dumbed down with stupid, unbelievable and campy storylines) can beat out Japan's wrestling (which has minimal silly storylines and better trained wrestlers) then you know you have a winner.
So, Hogan comes out and makes it a 3 on 3 even match up, instead of joining in for a 4 on 2 gang up, and that's a heel thing to do. Right? That's the part that never quite made sense to me. :)
@ebailey140 The rationale that Shivonne said in the match was that Luger was injured early in the match and was carted away on a stretcher and that he could be replaced in the match the way it was structured. Dumb rationale yes, but that was where they were trying to go with it. Hogan siding with the bad guys anyway was enough to grasp at straws.
@ebailey140 it was supposed to show that he was the commander, he commanded the heels. making him like the traditional heel, which is having his partners do the dirty work.
I think the only way the WWE got higher ratings was the loyal fans were holding out hoping for something more from them and it never came. Then when it became obvious that it wasn't going to be as good as WCW, they changed the channel. I for one just used to flip the channel constantly, going back and forth, but wound up where I didn't watch the WWE anymore. It sucks no one can do story lines like this anymore.
Bischoff took a Big gamble turning Hogan Heel and it payed off big time.Very clever and a very good buisness move up until he let the wrestlers run riot and he lost control thanks to Time Warner and AOL dickheads telling him what to do.
@youngron707 it tells me that you're young and clueless because the highest ratings ever were with wcw when sting was doing the crow thing.
i'm not saying austin was big but he is small when compared to sting because redneck retards from texas don't grab the masses. a super hero ala sting does.
btw I never said hall sucked. he was great but let's be honest, he ripped off an italian stalone rocky HEY YO attitude. just like andrew dice clay. not razor ramone.
@youngron707 to be fair, WCW is dead because of the AOL/Time Warner merge and the new guys didnt want a wrestling show on their network, its true that in the last year or two WCW got a little bit stale but WWE is more stale now then WCW ever was, and your saying you would kick somebody teeth in about wrestling??
@TheNewMusicNetwork Actually Raws highest rating was an 8.1 on May 10th 1999 whereas Nitro's highest was 6.0 on August 31st 1998. WCW in 1997 was averaging around a 4.0 whereas the WWE was averaging 4.5 - 5.0 during the 1998 Austin era.
So to summarise the highest ever ratings were around the Corperation/Corperate Ministry vs Austin era and not when Sting was doing the Crow thing. Just felt the need to point that out.
@1981bigdee first of all, you're making those statistics up. Second of all, you can't argue that sting didn't have a greater historical impact than stone cold. Sting was simply greater longer, proved by my true statistic that he won most popular wrestler in 91, 96, and 97
@poethepoetspoet Im not making them up. seriously, look it up, its true. I didnt write that stuff to have a pop at you, i just felt i need to present the facts. Sting was incredible and has been so for the past 23 years. All I was saying was the highest ever ratings were around mid 99. Sorry, dude.
I remember watching this show. It felt like I was watching something from the twilight zone. Hogan a heel?? Never saw it coming, never thought Bischoff would have the balls to pull off something so bold. Stinger really put the cherry on top with his promo.
@BillyCraven21 I know, I love how this was the beginning of the dark Sting. He was so angry and so emotional here but after awhile he just grew cold and callous, he knew things were changing and needed to change too. Stings character lost hope and became the guy whose mindset was in order to beat them you have to think like them. I loved it.
You have to LOVE Savage . He's the ONLY one who could dress like that and STILL look intimidating .
ND7652 1 week ago
theres only like a few 1000 fans there lol
metalheaddave666 1 month ago
WCW 96-98 was outstanding stuff.
Kozzy06 1 month ago
hogan turns his back on his beloved fans & joins the new world order......sting, lugar, savage, flair & the 4horseman combat the nWo....WCW then turn their back on sting because of the fake nWo sting....great storyline from 96-late 97.....wcw's best years
matt2fresh84 1 month ago
RIP MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE
TheeVulture 2 months ago
"He didn't get hurt... He fainted when he saw us!" LOL!!
BirdDawg1980 3 months ago 3
one thing is no one ever physically attacked mean jean
zoltron30 3 months ago
@zoltron30 I bet he had a clause in his contract that no one could touch him.
rondunderfunk 3 months ago
@rondunderfunk Looks like it. Nearly 30 Years and not a scratch
ND7652 1 week ago
Nice fanny pack Nash
jtmcclure78 4 months ago
one thing wrestlings missing today ..... PASSION
FizzyPops3434 4 months ago
"Gentlemen, I will continue working for Turner Broadcasting" lol
horrormoviefanscom 5 months ago
Odd thing is macho man wore that same hat and glasses when he joined the nwo black and white.
cb2k761 5 months ago
I love Sting and Macho promo. really legends!
Arsenalfan961208 6 months ago
see, its the little things that noone noticed that ended up killing wcw..sure, the whole outsiders thing was awesome and revolutionary, but...notice how quickly all the attention was taken away from a good match as soon as they showed up...what shoulda happened, and what woulda made more sense, was if arn and sting put the match aside and united against hall and nash, and forgot the match , rather then have it end in a split second when arn botched a ddt and then sting submitted him....stupid!!!
jfleming23 6 months ago
You could feel the pall over the whole show- it was like somebody had died. Amazing how well they did it all.
Ant1Live 6 months ago
Arn Anderson Fail at 2:20 Sting Win! lol
dvsoldier 6 months ago
"we gotta crash the party? you should be begging us to come in the door." fucking awesome Hall was so cool and the best part of the nWo he brought them their swag.
cvogtstrom1 7 months ago
@rpowers3677 WCW was bar-none the best gai-jin (American) wrestling league ever and I personally believe it was even better than Japan's best circuits (New Japan, All Japan and GAEA) when WCW was going strong. When gai-jin wrestling (which is typically dumbed down with stupid, unbelievable and campy storylines) can beat out Japan's wrestling (which has minimal silly storylines and better trained wrestlers) then you know you have a winner.
Furinkazan20 8 months ago
RIP Macho Man
anjake01 9 months ago
Eric Bischoff as a commentator? Ha.
Joecbg100 9 months ago
So, Hogan comes out and makes it a 3 on 3 even match up, instead of joining in for a 4 on 2 gang up, and that's a heel thing to do. Right? That's the part that never quite made sense to me. :)
ebailey140 10 months ago
@ebailey140 The rationale that Shivonne said in the match was that Luger was injured early in the match and was carted away on a stretcher and that he could be replaced in the match the way it was structured. Dumb rationale yes, but that was where they were trying to go with it. Hogan siding with the bad guys anyway was enough to grasp at straws.
WatchVenusSpa 9 months ago
@ebailey140 they where only 3 during the time, dumb ass
cisco19 9 months ago
@cisco19 I know you're just trolling, but do the math.
ebailey140 9 months ago
@ebailey140 it was supposed to show that he was the commander, he commanded the heels. making him like the traditional heel, which is having his partners do the dirty work.
cisco19 9 months ago
@ebailey140 Hogan came out long after Luger was injured and taken to the back. So he made it 3 on 2.. hence a "heel thing" to do as you say.
MikeK10579 8 months ago
Sweet fanny pack Nash
Droz0317 10 months ago
savage was the best!!
markissable 10 months ago
The older version of sting I liked a lot better. He appeared like a better wrestler to me.
invisibleman275 11 months ago
this was probably stings most intense promos
layziefngroovy 1 year ago
I think the only way the WWE got higher ratings was the loyal fans were holding out hoping for something more from them and it never came. Then when it became obvious that it wasn't going to be as good as WCW, they changed the channel. I for one just used to flip the channel constantly, going back and forth, but wound up where I didn't watch the WWE anymore. It sucks no one can do story lines like this anymore.
mhopper1000 1 year ago 3
macho man is the most.
LinJapanese 1 year ago
the good ol days
rebelbrown101 1 year ago
"Thank you gentlemen I dont like what I hear" HAHA
King2123 1 year ago
austin 3:16 era wasn't even close to the nwo era
cpmg1978 1 year ago
@cpmg1978 I disagree
Humtuer2 1 year ago
@cpmg1978 you're right..it surpassed it
King2123 1 year ago
nwo was a cancer to the biz
MRDXKLIQ101 1 year ago
it wouldve been so awesome if arn had turned on wcw the inforcer of the nwo how epic
Ineacious84 1 year ago
one grain of sand in the sahara desert!!! lol hahaha funny shit!!!
dennymon27 1 year ago
is this tinmans edits.
one8sevendre 2 years ago
yeah, pretty sure tinman had the exact same video. Otherwise thank you for reuploading these. Havent had my WCW fix in a while. Keep it up.
allday87 2 years ago
Great promo by Sting , doesn't get this good anymore.
JuicyPlayer 2 years ago
Bischoff took a Big gamble turning Hogan Heel and it payed off big time.Very clever and a very good buisness move up until he let the wrestlers run riot and he lost control thanks to Time Warner and AOL dickheads telling him what to do.
suckyamomma30 2 years ago 7
10:17 Scott Hall says "and Luger, he didn't get hurt....he fainted when he saw us chico".....LMAO
lawabider41 2 years ago 3
@lawabider41 Cant help but laugh
ND7652 1 year ago
@lawabider41 God you gotta love it right? Hall is THE BEST! An nWo is not an nWo without Scott Hall.
johnlucas1 1 year ago 3
@johnlucas1 agreed... nWo had almost no identity when hall was not there. and when scott hall was there, they were the best thing in wrestling.
drvn8 1 year ago 3
you Fans stick it brothers
maneyoungmoney 2 years ago
Somebody need to upload the Arn Anderson & Kevin Sullivan promo based off of the Hogan events.Those were good
CraigJericho 2 years ago
wcw at its best nothing will be as good
rpowers3677 2 years ago 34
@rpowers3677
the austin 3:16 era was better
youngron707 1 year ago
@youngron707 ok
rpowers3677 1 year ago
ya riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
@TheNewMusicNetwork
take Scott Hall out of the mix and there is no "NWO"
Hall continued the Razor Ramon attitude after returning to WCW, an attitude which Vince created.
Austin 3:16 era was bigger than WCW Goldberg, and Goldberg was hotter than the first year of NWO. so what does that tell you?
youngron707 1 year ago
@youngron707 it tells me that you're young and clueless because the highest ratings ever were with wcw when sting was doing the crow thing.
i'm not saying austin was big but he is small when compared to sting because redneck retards from texas don't grab the masses. a super hero ala sting does.
btw I never said hall sucked. he was great but let's be honest, he ripped off an italian stalone rocky HEY YO attitude. just like andrew dice clay. not razor ramone.
he ditched the cuban thing
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
@TheNewMusicNetwork psh...
fuck off u think u know it all?
" hey yo" was two combined phrases used by wwf's razor ramon.
and the "crow" sting was wack after awhile.
and if i "was young" i wouldnt know about austin over 10 years ago.
you try to talk shit n the web cause anywhere else you'ld be eatin your teeth after gettin em kicked in.
wcw is dead. if any of it was worth a shyt then why are they just a memory KID?
youngron707 1 year ago
@youngron707 to be fair, WCW is dead because of the AOL/Time Warner merge and the new guys didnt want a wrestling show on their network, its true that in the last year or two WCW got a little bit stale but WWE is more stale now then WCW ever was, and your saying you would kick somebody teeth in about wrestling??
haha, you sad twat
tidykris 1 year ago
@TheNewMusicNetwork Actually Raws highest rating was an 8.1 on May 10th 1999 whereas Nitro's highest was 6.0 on August 31st 1998. WCW in 1997 was averaging around a 4.0 whereas the WWE was averaging 4.5 - 5.0 during the 1998 Austin era.
So to summarise the highest ever ratings were around the Corperation/Corperate Ministry vs Austin era and not when Sting was doing the Crow thing. Just felt the need to point that out.
1981bigdee 1 year ago
@1981bigdee first of all, you're making those statistics up. Second of all, you can't argue that sting didn't have a greater historical impact than stone cold. Sting was simply greater longer, proved by my true statistic that he won most popular wrestler in 91, 96, and 97
poethepoetspoet 1 year ago
@poethepoetspoet Im not making them up. seriously, look it up, its true. I didnt write that stuff to have a pop at you, i just felt i need to present the facts. Sting was incredible and has been so for the past 23 years. All I was saying was the highest ever ratings were around mid 99. Sorry, dude.
1981bigdee 1 year ago
@poethepoetspoet just noticed it wasnt you who did the original post, sorry my bad.
1981bigdee 1 year ago
@rpowers3677 something was better! it was called the wwf attitude era!
jfleming23 6 months ago
@rpowers3677 great comment
NewDayStudios 4 months ago
I remember watching this show. It felt like I was watching something from the twilight zone. Hogan a heel?? Never saw it coming, never thought Bischoff would have the balls to pull off something so bold. Stinger really put the cherry on top with his promo.
skuldude 2 years ago 6
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teesdizzle1 2 years ago
very touching emotional promo by Sting...one of the greatest promos of all time!
BillyCraven21 2 years ago 24
Sting--"No Hulk, YOU STICK IT." Then it was great when he yelled out "YOU STICK IT".
JZ2001JC 2 years ago 5
@BillyCraven21 I know, I love how this was the beginning of the dark Sting. He was so angry and so emotional here but after awhile he just grew cold and callous, he knew things were changing and needed to change too. Stings character lost hope and became the guy whose mindset was in order to beat them you have to think like them. I loved it.
King2123 1 year ago 3
@BillyCraven21
Yeah, Sting said what we all were feeling! We were in total shock!!
hardrockin96 1 year ago