I've seen your point long ago. To "take control of [our] lives through responsibility" is a good thing. I'm not against that. However, there is no reason why they have to be responsible when they are not supposed to be. (Blaming external factors is not wrong when it is really caused by those)
For your 1), you are just insisting, WITHOUT ANY REASON stated.
Again, no one chooses to be ignorant. Ignorance is INEVITABLY made by the circumstances, one's ability at hand, and one's characteristics (In here, 'ignorance' includes 'literally anything one does not know about'). Hence results caused by ignorance are also inevitable. It's the FACT.
For your 2), I've been answering so far. First, I don't think anybody would 'KNOWINGLY procreate' with a evil person when they get married. Second, EVEN IF one does so, just think--who has made the situation dangerous in the first place, thus who's to be blamed and responsible for the danger? Remember: BAD IS BAD! The blameworthy person who does, causes, and reproduces evil is the bad person, not anybody else who is innocent.
To sum up, you are blaming the wrong person. You cannot blame the victims, because (1) it was inevitable and (2) they were not immoral. You are only focusing on the victims with your narrow view of the situations, not looking at the whole circumstances.
Keeping away from danger with one's best is a smart thing, but failing to do so is not a blameworthy thing for him/her.
This is my very last comment, since you are not answering validly, just making me to repeat.
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well im 24 girl and single and i feel like im very FAR from the panic years...
actually marriage, kids and all that scares me and i'd rather experience life and have a career and just wait for a big love instead of worrying about it all the time...
Marriage is only for gay and lesbians , no man should ever ever ever consider to kill himself by marrying , trust me , i know it!!!
If she wants kids , then have kids with her , but no business contracts like marriage.This way you wont have to worry that your wife will run with the kids ,and the judge give your devil wife the house ,car , and moneys.
lmaoo! buddy, i think you need to take a good look at what you type before clicking the "post comment" button. if you really think that there is no God, then maybe you should consider NOT using the phrase "God forbid", at least not in the same post, cause you've just contradicted yourself and left some innocent people confused about what your opinion really is. :)
you forgot 'jezus christ' thats my favourite curse, i dunno why, im an atheist, i have a wonderful sence of humour, so that might be the problem... perhaps its cos 'using the lords name in vain' doesnt mean much to me?
lol--hmm u ppl who commented prior to me are hilarious-- and im 26 i have been thru my panic yrs i think- i hope---lol- or maybe im in denial is that a symptom too? lol ive reached the last stage of not caring if it comes or not---lol ive accepted being single :)
I would have made an excellent husband and father but I saw too many horrible divorces and have heard too many horror stories from other men. She gets tired of you then kicks out out of your own home, nails you with child support, slamming you into abject poverty. Then if you don't agree to everything she demands, she files false sexual misconduct allegations and you find yourself in jail. No thanks! I chose a prosperous, happy, stress free life instead and I love it. You women really blew it.
Mech, you can still be a father, you just don't have to marry anyone. Keep everything in your name and never mix assets, so if she ever acts a fool, then you can kick her ass out without owing any vaginamony. 'course you'd still be on the hook for support IF she's granted custody. Or if you wanted to avoid all risk, you could choose adoption.
Women certainly blew it, but there's still plenty of p*ssy whipped boys willing to comply. A couple more generations and the Man's man will be extinct.
Hmm.. I remember when men were men and women were women and you didn't have to be afraid to say so to either one. Those were the good old days. These days, when the women aren't being men and the men aren't being women, someone files a lawsuit.
"And little green furry things from Alpha Centauri, were REAL little green furry things from Alpha Centauri."-Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. (lol, jk. I agre with what you're saying.)
Actually, women aren't the only ones blowing it. It all started in the Garden of Eden. Eve wanted to be "as God" (equal with God) and Adam said, "She gave it to me and you made her. I don't know if it's your fault, her fault or that sneaking snakes fault, but it ain't my fault. The problem is this: Women who want to be God and men who don't take responsibility for anything.
Mechman: Interesting. I gave my ex husband $1000 dollars cash and my car just to get him the hell out of my house after he punched our then three month old son in the face. I haven't asked him for anything because I don't want him anywhere near me ever again. I just want him to leave me and my family alone, and I live in constant terror that he might show up someday and want back into my life. I'm not entirely certain I'm the one who blew it, there.
Sorry you got a raw deal Snark. That must have sucked! Still, most good hard-working blue-collar guys like me don't punch our children in the face. Instead, we're usually the ones who get thrown out of our homes and financially raped when the woman gets tired of us. If your situation were typical then it would be women who would be reluctant to marry, not men. As it is, men are scared to death of marriage because we get the bad end of the deal nearly always.
SnarkLicker did not get a raw deal. Sad story, yes, but she got what she deserved because she spread her legs for some little boy with anger management problems.
We can only blame ourselves for the people we allow into our lives. You can't blame the alcoholic, the drug addict, the violent, or even people with low credit scores for being the people they are. Look in the mirror and claim responsibility for the mistake. We can only move forward if we accept the truth.
I disagree with you. Life is not that easy and choosable for you. Obviously you cannot control every single thing in your life. Sometimes it's not that allowing bad things in your life, but is the bad things penetrating into your life.
Disagree all you want, but until you accept responsibility for yourself, then you will continue to be a willing victim.
Life's wonderful because (1) I don't concern myself with what I can not control--like a meteor slamming into earth and (2) I accept responsibility for my actions--like a bad trade in the stock market. The market didn't punish me. It didn't "just happen". I made it happen and therefore I must examine where I went wrong and learn from it. I'm not a victim. Change your mindset.
I have to disagree again. If you are ultimately saying "Learn from the mistakes," then I have no problem with that, but why should we be 'responsible' for things that we did not cause? You have said that the woman who had a bad husband is 'responsible' for her raw deal. However, we cannot completely know everything of any person in the world, and all she had done was being naive. So, if a stranger lured and kidnapped a naive child, is it the child's fault? Dude, YOU should change your mindset.
Where talking about adults here. Nobody is advocating children should be responsible for themselves--that's asinine. You're unbelievable!
Anyway, you don't have to know EVERYTHING about a person to know they are a deadbeat. This 'bad husband' didn't become a deadbeat overnight. He was ALWAYS a deadbeat and yet she still CHOSE to marry him. Then to make matters worse, she CHOSE to bear his child.
These are decisions so who's fault is it then if it's not hers?
You are avoiding the point. It doesn't matter whether they're adults or not. Let's say that the stranger kidnapped an adult, not a child. Now, is it the grownup's fault? You are just ridiculous. "'Bad husband' didn't become a deadbeat overnight"? How do you know? Nobody knows how a person had been and how he/she is going to be. People can change. Okay, the wife might have overlooked bad sides of the husband, but it does NOT make the situation her fault, because she did NOT do anything immoral.
treasure, 'Leave it all to chance' way of thinking is dangerous and people who think like this deserve everything that's coming to them.
For example: Maybe it's late at night and I desire a Slurpee so I drive my luxury vehicle to 7-11 in Compton, CA. and walk into the store leaving the car door open, keys inside, engine still running, and music blasting.
Is what I've done legal? Yes. Immoral? No. Is it smart? Absolutely not and I deserve to have my car stolen. This is NOT happenstance!
treasure, It's apparent we'll never agree and I have zero interest in trying to convince you otherwise.
People are creatures of habit and they are who they are. It usually takes a major event in order for behavior changes to occur overnight. So when the clues point to someone being a violent deadbeat, assume they will always be one and DO NOT START FAMILIES WITH DEADBEATS!
(Btw, if you fear being kidnapped, take responsibility by putting down the US Weekly and learning some self-defense.)
So, you are saying "People deserve harsh consequences 'caused' by their ignorance". Yet, I don't think so. I find it interesting that you are alleging your opinion with no valid reason why people deserve those. Ignorance is disadvantage, but does not make people inferior to others, because everyone deserves human rights. And ignorance does not deserve punishment; only immorality deserves punishment.
(cont.) Being that said, for your example, if I intentionally leave my car open, it IS stupid. It would have been better not to leave the car open. But I don't 'deserve' my car stolen; because the car belongs to me, I still did not do anything bad, and the only immoral person is who stole my car. Yes, it is very stupid mistake, yet it is not my 'fault'.
(cont.) And yes, I am the victim of theft, and this is the reason why theft is a crime. But from your perspective, it is not a crime. Thus, unless you are a criminal, your opinion does not seem normal at all. (Additionally, 'Being a victim' itself is not a shameful thing. Only thing that matters with being a victim is if he/she accepts the fact and let it go or not.)
(cont.) Also there's another point. When people make decisions, they try their best with their knowledge at hand. But since they are not 'omniscient', they may make wrong decisions. (And of course, you are not omniscient either, because you have no idea who I am. Do you think I read crap like US Weekly? lol) So if we made a wrong decision due to the 'ignorance' at the point, is it our fault?
(cont.) No. Because it was INEVITABLE. And it was inevitable because we did not choose to be ignorant thus we COULD NOT know that there was a flaw at that point. In other words, inevitably no one can know further than his present knowledge. It is a mistake to make wrong decisions by ignorance, but it's not a fault, as long as it was not immoral. Because, again, it is inevitable.
(cont.) Well, you've said "I don't concern myself with what I cannot control," but you are blaming other people for their inevitable mistakes. Congrats, you've contradicted yourself.
(cont.) Lastly, let's get this straight and simple. If the wife had known the husband was a bad guy or what would happen later, would she have married him? No. But she COULD NOT know any of those. Inevitability. Nothing wrong has she done. Nothing is there to blame her. Period.
P.S. If you have no interest in convincing me, simply do not leave comments anymore. Trying to convince me is waste of your time, since I won't be convinced by a mere arrogant sophist anyways. I have no interest in convincing you either, but I've replied so far to prevent others from being convinced by your so-called opinion, even though it seems like no one is giving a damn about our discussion.
Best of luck, dear, because it sounds as if you're going to need it. You're arguing that "life isn't easy and choosable" and I couldn't disagree with you more.
Should my car get stolen? No. Will it get stolen? Undoubtedly. And this is the difference between you and I: You make decisions based on the way the world "should be" whereas I make decisions based on reality.
I make life happen. You let life happen and therefore are subject to "bad things" penetrating your life. Become accountable!
[1] WHAT YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ARE INEVITABLE HAPPENINGS.
{1} If we are literally omniscient, we can predict anything and thus we have the ability to avoid every inevitability and lead our lives to whatever way is choosable. But no one is omniscient, and life is unpredictable--we don't know how things and people are going to be(For "Life isn't choosable," I meant 'unpredictableness').
{2} I DO think people should make their lives on their own. I DON'T LET MY LIFE HAPPEN--I TRY MY BEST. But no matter how I try my best, some factors I had not known before (I'm not omniscient) may eventually fail me now or later. But I'm not responsible for it. Why? Because (1) there had been no way of me knowing about it(=inevitability), and (2) I did not fail myself, the factors failed me.
[2] EVEN IF the wife had been damn retarded enough to marry the bad man knowing that what he would do later, at least you should get the morality right. Who is immoral and hence deserves punishment--the naive wife or the 'deadbeat'? You said she is the ONLY ONE to be blamed and the deadbeat is not to be blamed. Then just get these: (1) stupidity is not immoral, and (2) if an immoral person should not be blamed, morality becomes nothing--you killed morality.
treasure, I'm simply too exhausted to correct you on all those tangents.
My argument is for people to take control of their lives through responsibility and accountablity. It amazes me how much effort you are putting forth to argue against this notion.
People who consistently make bad decisions love to blame external factors ("bad luck" is a favorite) instead of looking into the mirror and accepting the true source of their suffering.
Losers are easily identified by many undesirable attributes such as low credit score, substance/physical/verbal abuse, laziness, etc...
1) Marrying and procreating w/ a loser is NOT an "inevitable happening". It's a decision and the fault of decision maker. Ignorance is no excuse for the law nor for harsh consequences.
2) One could argue that knowingly procreating w/ a loser IS immoral because a helpless child now has been brought into a dangerous situation--exactly what has happened here.
treasure, Ever hear of people falling into one abusive relationship after another? Is this just bad luck? "Inevitable happening"? Or is it likely these people are just as sick, mentally, as the abusers themselves?
Your "victims" are losers who will continue repeating the cycle of seeking out abusers over and over again (whether consciously or subconsciously) until they look into the mirror and become accountable for their suffering.
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You and I view the world differently--and that's okay.
Azundris, Please describe how I 'diminished rape'. I don't remember doing that. You tossed out the accusation without backing it up with facts. Lets hear some facts and then I'll give your opinion some thought and see if it's valid.
Maybe you misunderstood my comment or you thought someone else's comment was from me. If you go into the "view all comments" area you can get a better view of who replied to whom and in what order. In the video area they tend to get jumbled up pretty bad.
That's OK, just read your previous comments once more. I'd be interested to learn what you really meant to write instead of "financially raped".
Can't really comment on the "sexual misconduct" bit since I'm not sure you're using the usual legal definition. Also, since I don't know where you live and how self-selecting your environment is, I can't comment or pull up crime stats for the area (that's OK, I have things to do), so while it sounds rather improbable, it may not be 100% impossible.
Some weird logic when words are all we have here in the comments section. :) Now you're trying to say *I'm* at fault for reacting to what you actually *chose* to *write*, rather than making up random shit you *may* have meant and replying to that? :) Dude, if I'm actually supposed to make up your end of the conversation as well as mine, I may as well talk to myself in the first place. :) Have a nice life. Or something.
really? judaism, islam, and christianity are all worse than atheism? not buying it because christian, jewish, and muslim nations lasted a hell of a lot longer than the huns, the USSR, and China. both the USSR and the huns fell and both became religious nations upon the fall. china is approaching a fall because of the 1 child policy, cause unless they find more women there will be 50million men looking for a wife soon, and only one kid if they find one. atheisism is a lack of faith.
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Actually, I prefer my women to just shut up and bend over. I don't even want to know their names let alone anything else. As if I give a shi*t what any woman's opinion is. lmao. Please!
jrkidd3, maybe you ought to read a definition of 'chauvinist' before trying to using it.
Never did I say men are superior to women.
I simply made my preferences known. If you knew anything about hot, young chicks then you are well aware they are the least informed demographic (w/ exception to knowledge of fashion or celebs). I want sex--not an opinion on economic theory.
Enjoy "making love" to opinionated, bitter, old prunes in menopause, however, I won't call you names for it.
What's wrong with Communism? You're wrong, dicorce was much lower under the Soviet model. The only reason Communism failed was because of expenditures on futile endeavors such as exorbitant military. Also, Communism is possible while keeping religion and the Honor due to Christ, as powerful white nations follow God against the terror from Chechen - Iran and other Mus slobs.
If this were true: 'Communism is possible while keeping religion and the Honor due to Christ" there would be nothing wrong with communism. But the reality of communisim is that faith in anything other than the state cannot be tolerated and the downfall of the state is human nature. Communism can survive only so long as it is maintained by force of arms. When a society can no longer produce enough to support the military and communism itself kills the will to produce.
I could have cared les about marriage and it just naturally came along, I didn't want it to come so soon!
titoferni29 2 years ago
Spoken like a true Mangina (ie man with a vagina)!
Do your research- you'll see that what I say is true. If you, or the other women don't like the truth, thats your problem!
Simmm45 2 years ago
Right on Sister! BTW you've got some very broad interests and tastes. Are you hot?
That just my pig male side coming out!
Simmm45 2 years ago
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I tell you what panic is- when a man does a stupid thing and actually sign a marriage contract!
When the novelty wears off, the woman will want a divorce then financially rape him for the rest of his life!
Guys- don't marry! Keep women in their panic years permanently!
Simmm45 2 years ago
I can't say I blame you for these sentiments.
ncfwhitetigress 2 years ago
That's a little bit extreme, Simmm45. Not all women are like that!
yourtango 2 years ago
she reminds me of carrie bradsawl..her hair n also cuz shes a writer..idk?
bmarlene12 2 years ago
i loved that picture of her at her friends wedding
mappamanda 3 years ago
Women get SOOOO much attention in their early 20's. Get married before you turn 30 ladies!
krogdog 3 years ago
I've seen your point long ago. To "take control of [our] lives through responsibility" is a good thing. I'm not against that. However, there is no reason why they have to be responsible when they are not supposed to be. (Blaming external factors is not wrong when it is really caused by those)
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
For your 1), you are just insisting, WITHOUT ANY REASON stated.
Again, no one chooses to be ignorant. Ignorance is INEVITABLY made by the circumstances, one's ability at hand, and one's characteristics (In here, 'ignorance' includes 'literally anything one does not know about'). Hence results caused by ignorance are also inevitable. It's the FACT.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
For your 2), I've been answering so far. First, I don't think anybody would 'KNOWINGLY procreate' with a evil person when they get married. Second, EVEN IF one does so, just think--who has made the situation dangerous in the first place, thus who's to be blamed and responsible for the danger? Remember: BAD IS BAD! The blameworthy person who does, causes, and reproduces evil is the bad person, not anybody else who is innocent.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
To sum up, you are blaming the wrong person. You cannot blame the victims, because (1) it was inevitable and (2) they were not immoral. You are only focusing on the victims with your narrow view of the situations, not looking at the whole circumstances.
Keeping away from danger with one's best is a smart thing, but failing to do so is not a blameworthy thing for him/her.
This is my very last comment, since you are not answering validly, just making me to repeat.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
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treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
Some of the comments I've posted are not showing up immediately. This bug really sucks.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
I must write a book: Still Single At 40 And Happy As Hell!
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krogdog 3 years ago
well im 24 girl and single and i feel like im very FAR from the panic years...
actually marriage, kids and all that scares me and i'd rather experience life and have a career and just wait for a big love instead of worrying about it all the time...
but that just me...
200VanillaMilkshake 3 years ago 4
Dude... You're the smartest person I've virtually seen on here in three years. XD Please keep thinking like that!
ineedto 3 years ago
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yourtango 3 years ago
most girls dont give ordinary guys a chance and they end up like she said... its just sad :C
BW2Ilidian4922POP 3 years ago 3
That's it! Women are certifiably insane.
jammin516 3 years ago
Marriage is only for gay and lesbians , no man should ever ever ever consider to kill himself by marrying , trust me , i know it!!!
If she wants kids , then have kids with her , but no business contracts like marriage.This way you wont have to worry that your wife will run with the kids ,and the judge give your devil wife the house ,car , and moneys.
tigerpanzer1944 3 years ago
what the fuck is this video anyway
lacanau 3 years ago
lmaoo! buddy, i think you need to take a good look at what you type before clicking the "post comment" button. if you really think that there is no God, then maybe you should consider NOT using the phrase "God forbid", at least not in the same post, cause you've just contradicted yourself and left some innocent people confused about what your opinion really is. :)
redchcookies 3 years ago
An athiest using phrases like "Oh my God" and "God forbid" is irony. If you used that big brain of yours, you'd recognize the humor in it.
dixonada 3 years ago
you forgot 'jezus christ' thats my favourite curse, i dunno why, im an atheist, i have a wonderful sence of humour, so that might be the problem... perhaps its cos 'using the lords name in vain' doesnt mean much to me?
TamaHAHA 3 years ago
i think im experiencing "The Panic Years"... im 17 and currently single.
donk4y 3 years ago 2
lol--hmm u ppl who commented prior to me are hilarious-- and im 26 i have been thru my panic yrs i think- i hope---lol- or maybe im in denial is that a symptom too? lol ive reached the last stage of not caring if it comes or not---lol ive accepted being single :)
jennor81 3 years ago
I talked about this sort of thing with my mom the other day, and she got scared and said "You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air."
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comicguy12 3 years ago
females sure have a lot of 'panic years'.
"oh no! I'm 25 and all my friends are married but me"
"oh no, I'm in my late 30's and my womb is drying up. All my friends have kids but me"
"oh no, I'm an unwed 45 year old divorcee. All my divorced friends are dating again but me."
"oh no. I'm 70 and all my friends are dying but me"
OnTheSwimTeam2 3 years ago 16
american bullshit
indyproject 3 years ago 8
I would have made an excellent husband and father but I saw too many horrible divorces and have heard too many horror stories from other men. She gets tired of you then kicks out out of your own home, nails you with child support, slamming you into abject poverty. Then if you don't agree to everything she demands, she files false sexual misconduct allegations and you find yourself in jail. No thanks! I chose a prosperous, happy, stress free life instead and I love it. You women really blew it.
Mechman064 3 years ago
Mech, you can still be a father, you just don't have to marry anyone. Keep everything in your name and never mix assets, so if she ever acts a fool, then you can kick her ass out without owing any vaginamony. 'course you'd still be on the hook for support IF she's granted custody. Or if you wanted to avoid all risk, you could choose adoption.
Women certainly blew it, but there's still plenty of p*ssy whipped boys willing to comply. A couple more generations and the Man's man will be extinct.
dixonada 3 years ago
Hmm.. I remember when men were men and women were women and you didn't have to be afraid to say so to either one. Those were the good old days. These days, when the women aren't being men and the men aren't being women, someone files a lawsuit.
jrkidd3 3 years ago
"And little green furry things from Alpha Centauri, were REAL little green furry things from Alpha Centauri."-Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. (lol, jk. I agre with what you're saying.)
aikiboy1111111 3 years ago
Actually, women aren't the only ones blowing it. It all started in the Garden of Eden. Eve wanted to be "as God" (equal with God) and Adam said, "She gave it to me and you made her. I don't know if it's your fault, her fault or that sneaking snakes fault, but it ain't my fault. The problem is this: Women who want to be God and men who don't take responsibility for anything.
jrkidd3 3 years ago
Mechman: Interesting. I gave my ex husband $1000 dollars cash and my car just to get him the hell out of my house after he punched our then three month old son in the face. I haven't asked him for anything because I don't want him anywhere near me ever again. I just want him to leave me and my family alone, and I live in constant terror that he might show up someday and want back into my life. I'm not entirely certain I'm the one who blew it, there.
SnarkLicker 3 years ago 3
Sorry you got a raw deal Snark. That must have sucked! Still, most good hard-working blue-collar guys like me don't punch our children in the face. Instead, we're usually the ones who get thrown out of our homes and financially raped when the woman gets tired of us. If your situation were typical then it would be women who would be reluctant to marry, not men. As it is, men are scared to death of marriage because we get the bad end of the deal nearly always.
Mechman064 3 years ago
SnarkLicker did not get a raw deal. Sad story, yes, but she got what she deserved because she spread her legs for some little boy with anger management problems.
We can only blame ourselves for the people we allow into our lives. You can't blame the alcoholic, the drug addict, the violent, or even people with low credit scores for being the people they are. Look in the mirror and claim responsibility for the mistake. We can only move forward if we accept the truth.
dixonada 3 years ago
I disagree with you. Life is not that easy and choosable for you. Obviously you cannot control every single thing in your life. Sometimes it's not that allowing bad things in your life, but is the bad things penetrating into your life.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
Disagree all you want, but until you accept responsibility for yourself, then you will continue to be a willing victim.
Life's wonderful because (1) I don't concern myself with what I can not control--like a meteor slamming into earth and (2) I accept responsibility for my actions--like a bad trade in the stock market. The market didn't punish me. It didn't "just happen". I made it happen and therefore I must examine where I went wrong and learn from it. I'm not a victim. Change your mindset.
dixonada 3 years ago
I have to disagree again. If you are ultimately saying "Learn from the mistakes," then I have no problem with that, but why should we be 'responsible' for things that we did not cause? You have said that the woman who had a bad husband is 'responsible' for her raw deal. However, we cannot completely know everything of any person in the world, and all she had done was being naive. So, if a stranger lured and kidnapped a naive child, is it the child's fault? Dude, YOU should change your mindset.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
treasure, don't be a brick.
Where talking about adults here. Nobody is advocating children should be responsible for themselves--that's asinine. You're unbelievable!
Anyway, you don't have to know EVERYTHING about a person to know they are a deadbeat. This 'bad husband' didn't become a deadbeat overnight. He was ALWAYS a deadbeat and yet she still CHOSE to marry him. Then to make matters worse, she CHOSE to bear his child.
These are decisions so who's fault is it then if it's not hers?
dixonada 3 years ago
You are avoiding the point. It doesn't matter whether they're adults or not. Let's say that the stranger kidnapped an adult, not a child. Now, is it the grownup's fault? You are just ridiculous. "'Bad husband' didn't become a deadbeat overnight"? How do you know? Nobody knows how a person had been and how he/she is going to be. People can change. Okay, the wife might have overlooked bad sides of the husband, but it does NOT make the situation her fault, because she did NOT do anything immoral.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
treasure, 'Leave it all to chance' way of thinking is dangerous and people who think like this deserve everything that's coming to them.
For example: Maybe it's late at night and I desire a Slurpee so I drive my luxury vehicle to 7-11 in Compton, CA. and walk into the store leaving the car door open, keys inside, engine still running, and music blasting.
Is what I've done legal? Yes. Immoral? No. Is it smart? Absolutely not and I deserve to have my car stolen. This is NOT happenstance!
dixonada 3 years ago
treasure, It's apparent we'll never agree and I have zero interest in trying to convince you otherwise.
People are creatures of habit and they are who they are. It usually takes a major event in order for behavior changes to occur overnight. So when the clues point to someone being a violent deadbeat, assume they will always be one and DO NOT START FAMILIES WITH DEADBEATS!
(Btw, if you fear being kidnapped, take responsibility by putting down the US Weekly and learning some self-defense.)
dixonada 3 years ago
So, you are saying "People deserve harsh consequences 'caused' by their ignorance". Yet, I don't think so. I find it interesting that you are alleging your opinion with no valid reason why people deserve those. Ignorance is disadvantage, but does not make people inferior to others, because everyone deserves human rights. And ignorance does not deserve punishment; only immorality deserves punishment.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
(cont.) Being that said, for your example, if I intentionally leave my car open, it IS stupid. It would have been better not to leave the car open. But I don't 'deserve' my car stolen; because the car belongs to me, I still did not do anything bad, and the only immoral person is who stole my car. Yes, it is very stupid mistake, yet it is not my 'fault'.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
(cont.) And yes, I am the victim of theft, and this is the reason why theft is a crime. But from your perspective, it is not a crime. Thus, unless you are a criminal, your opinion does not seem normal at all. (Additionally, 'Being a victim' itself is not a shameful thing. Only thing that matters with being a victim is if he/she accepts the fact and let it go or not.)
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
(cont.) Also there's another point. When people make decisions, they try their best with their knowledge at hand. But since they are not 'omniscient', they may make wrong decisions. (And of course, you are not omniscient either, because you have no idea who I am. Do you think I read crap like US Weekly? lol) So if we made a wrong decision due to the 'ignorance' at the point, is it our fault?
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
(cont.) No. Because it was INEVITABLE. And it was inevitable because we did not choose to be ignorant thus we COULD NOT know that there was a flaw at that point. In other words, inevitably no one can know further than his present knowledge. It is a mistake to make wrong decisions by ignorance, but it's not a fault, as long as it was not immoral. Because, again, it is inevitable.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
(cont.) Well, you've said "I don't concern myself with what I cannot control," but you are blaming other people for their inevitable mistakes. Congrats, you've contradicted yourself.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
(cont.) Lastly, let's get this straight and simple. If the wife had known the husband was a bad guy or what would happen later, would she have married him? No. But she COULD NOT know any of those. Inevitability. Nothing wrong has she done. Nothing is there to blame her. Period.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
(cont.)
P.S. If you have no interest in convincing me, simply do not leave comments anymore. Trying to convince me is waste of your time, since I won't be convinced by a mere arrogant sophist anyways. I have no interest in convincing you either, but I've replied so far to prevent others from being convinced by your so-called opinion, even though it seems like no one is giving a damn about our discussion.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
(cont.)
P.P.S. So, if you cannot refute my logic VALIDLY, I won't answer you back again. Because that'll waste not only your time, but also my time.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
I love you for writing all of that.
St3reofide1ic 3 years ago
Best of luck, dear, because it sounds as if you're going to need it. You're arguing that "life isn't easy and choosable" and I couldn't disagree with you more.
Should my car get stolen? No. Will it get stolen? Undoubtedly. And this is the difference between you and I: You make decisions based on the way the world "should be" whereas I make decisions based on reality.
I make life happen. You let life happen and therefore are subject to "bad things" penetrating your life. Become accountable!
dixonada 3 years ago
[1] WHAT YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ARE INEVITABLE HAPPENINGS.
{1} If we are literally omniscient, we can predict anything and thus we have the ability to avoid every inevitability and lead our lives to whatever way is choosable. But no one is omniscient, and life is unpredictable--we don't know how things and people are going to be(For "Life isn't choosable," I meant 'unpredictableness').
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
{2} I DO think people should make their lives on their own. I DON'T LET MY LIFE HAPPEN--I TRY MY BEST. But no matter how I try my best, some factors I had not known before (I'm not omniscient) may eventually fail me now or later. But I'm not responsible for it. Why? Because (1) there had been no way of me knowing about it(=inevitability), and (2) I did not fail myself, the factors failed me.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
[2] EVEN IF the wife had been damn retarded enough to marry the bad man knowing that what he would do later, at least you should get the morality right. Who is immoral and hence deserves punishment--the naive wife or the 'deadbeat'? You said she is the ONLY ONE to be blamed and the deadbeat is not to be blamed. Then just get these: (1) stupidity is not immoral, and (2) if an immoral person should not be blamed, morality becomes nothing--you killed morality.
treasureplanet2002 3 years ago
treasure, I'm simply too exhausted to correct you on all those tangents.
My argument is for people to take control of their lives through responsibility and accountablity. It amazes me how much effort you are putting forth to argue against this notion.
People who consistently make bad decisions love to blame external factors ("bad luck" is a favorite) instead of looking into the mirror and accepting the true source of their suffering.
dixonada 3 years ago
Losers are easily identified by many undesirable attributes such as low credit score, substance/physical/verbal abuse, laziness, etc...
1) Marrying and procreating w/ a loser is NOT an "inevitable happening". It's a decision and the fault of decision maker. Ignorance is no excuse for the law nor for harsh consequences.
2) One could argue that knowingly procreating w/ a loser IS immoral because a helpless child now has been brought into a dangerous situation--exactly what has happened here.
dixonada 3 years ago
treasure, Ever hear of people falling into one abusive relationship after another? Is this just bad luck? "Inevitable happening"? Or is it likely these people are just as sick, mentally, as the abusers themselves?
Your "victims" are losers who will continue repeating the cycle of seeking out abusers over and over again (whether consciously or subconsciously) until they look into the mirror and become accountable for their suffering.
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You and I view the world differently--and that's okay.
dixonada 3 years ago
Dude, you don't get to diminish rape and claim to be a good guy, least of all in the same comment.
Azundris 3 years ago
Azundris, Please describe how I 'diminished rape'. I don't remember doing that. You tossed out the accusation without backing it up with facts. Lets hear some facts and then I'll give your opinion some thought and see if it's valid.
Maybe you misunderstood my comment or you thought someone else's comment was from me. If you go into the "view all comments" area you can get a better view of who replied to whom and in what order. In the video area they tend to get jumbled up pretty bad.
Mechman064 3 years ago
That's OK, just read your previous comments once more. I'd be interested to learn what you really meant to write instead of "financially raped".
Can't really comment on the "sexual misconduct" bit since I'm not sure you're using the usual legal definition. Also, since I don't know where you live and how self-selecting your environment is, I can't comment or pull up crime stats for the area (that's OK, I have things to do), so while it sounds rather improbable, it may not be 100% impossible.
Azundris 3 years ago
Ok Azundris.
You're just quibbling over my choice of words. I'm not going to waste any more time on you. Go find someone else to irritate.
Mechman064 3 years ago
Some weird logic when words are all we have here in the comments section. :) Now you're trying to say *I'm* at fault for reacting to what you actually *chose* to *write*, rather than making up random shit you *may* have meant and replying to that? :) Dude, if I'm actually supposed to make up your end of the conversation as well as mine, I may as well talk to myself in the first place. :) Have a nice life. Or something.
Azundris 3 years ago
Mechman plugs his ears, "la la la da da da". Sorry I couldn't hear you. "La La La Da Da da"
Mechman064 3 years ago
The truest words ever spoken of men or women are contained in this quotation: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
Having said that, I believe it was General George Patton who observed: "Forgive your enemies ... but remember their names."
jrkidd3 3 years ago
really? judaism, islam, and christianity are all worse than atheism? not buying it because christian, jewish, and muslim nations lasted a hell of a lot longer than the huns, the USSR, and China. both the USSR and the huns fell and both became religious nations upon the fall. china is approaching a fall because of the 1 child policy, cause unless they find more women there will be 50million men looking for a wife soon, and only one kid if they find one. atheisism is a lack of faith.
provbaseball09 3 years ago
because you're not complete until you have a man.
Sartchy 3 years ago 4
a bit of humor from Charlie 'Tremendous' Jones: A man is incomplete until he marries. Then, he's finished.' :o)
jrkidd3 3 years ago 2
I'm guessing you prefer your women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen with a 5th grade level intelligence? :)
Scorponis 3 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Actually, I prefer my women to just shut up and bend over. I don't even want to know their names let alone anything else. As if I give a shi*t what any woman's opinion is. lmao. Please!
dixonada 3 years ago
Imagine that. After all the feminist attempst to kill the chauvinist pig, he is still alive and well.
jrkidd3 3 years ago
jrkidd3, maybe you ought to read a definition of 'chauvinist' before trying to using it.
Never did I say men are superior to women.
I simply made my preferences known. If you knew anything about hot, young chicks then you are well aware they are the least informed demographic (w/ exception to knowledge of fashion or celebs). I want sex--not an opinion on economic theory.
Enjoy "making love" to opinionated, bitter, old prunes in menopause, however, I won't call you names for it.
dixonada 3 years ago
LOL
jrkidd3 3 years ago
Yeah!! They can even get kids and family without marriage!
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PolarBearRug 3 years ago
What's wrong with Communism? You're wrong, dicorce was much lower under the Soviet model. The only reason Communism failed was because of expenditures on futile endeavors such as exorbitant military. Also, Communism is possible while keeping religion and the Honor due to Christ, as powerful white nations follow God against the terror from Chechen - Iran and other Mus slobs.
uncleflaco 3 years ago
If this were true: 'Communism is possible while keeping religion and the Honor due to Christ" there would be nothing wrong with communism. But the reality of communisim is that faith in anything other than the state cannot be tolerated and the downfall of the state is human nature. Communism can survive only so long as it is maintained by force of arms. When a society can no longer produce enough to support the military and communism itself kills the will to produce.
jrkidd3 3 years ago
wow, almost 30,000 views and only 10 ratings and 5, now 6 comments. lol thats sweet.
provbaseball09 3 years ago
omg america's panicer!!
xmileyfan15x 3 years ago
lol!!!
xmileyfan15x 3 years ago
lol
princess1superstar 3 years ago
i love the photo where she is flying after that bouquet
kosgood1 3 years ago 4
damn you chickens and your useless problems, dont worry about it.. thats all, drink some cranberry juice
deftify 3 years ago