351 Ford Engine Dyno

[Mrphatbastard1]

LS1's melt down faster than a Hershey bar in the microwave...

[chevyguy262]

what keeps stuff from being sucked in the webbers and hurting the engine?

[clipdan]

What about the extra .1?

[NorwegsicheWaldkatze]

Damn, thats a beast!

[Da1RiSiN1sMoKe]

499.9 HP?

Damn, if you would've just polished up the end opening or something you would've hit 500 exactly. xD

[alore57]

close enough. its has 500:)

[GEARHEADGUY92]

FORD FOR LIFE

[jeepers2655]

No BIG money is finding a 427 sohc motor or a Boss 429 motor.........or even a Boss302

[bugalug2004]

if you want to build a big block you will want to find a 429 cobrajet there were a few two bolt main blocks but you will want a fourbolt main otherwise you will tear the bottom end out of it these blocks accept the same parts as a 460 so there are alot of preformance parts avalible plus the heads are the same ones that ford racing is still putting out only now they are aluminum but still the same castings

[amerdabol]

awesome!

[dogg502]

thats big money right there!!!!

[rh1860]

sounds awesome!

[Quetzalcoytl]

lovely 351 dyno btw.

[usnavyseals99]

ya great for any ford..oh except ur gonna scatter parts everywhere..

[untoldguitarist]

Sorry but the Best N/A Big block factory V8 is the FORD 427 SOHC CAMMER MOTOR N/A 616HP w/4BBL and 656HP w/(2)4BBL CARBS FROM THE FACTORY and the most Potent Small Block V8 ever made from the factory N/A is the 1971 BOSS 351C THAT RAN LOW 11'S IN A HEAVY ASS 71' MUSTANG and both the Motors I mentioned are CAST IRON not like PUSSY GM having to build an all ALUMINUM V8 to get any results. SO TAMAPALAGI you are a fucking idiot if you think GM anything from the factory will outperform those V8'S.

[LORSLO]

HELL YEAH

[untoldguitarist]

Indeed

[xmodrock]

THANK YOU!!!

[untoldguitarist]

You're welcome

[Quetzalcoytl]

amen! the blue oval disciple has spoken! in your face bow tie fan boys!

[untoldguitarist]

And that is the truth, All these Bowtie boys need to shut up and do research about The True FORD V8'S that MADE HISTORY. Because even the year for the 454CI Chevy still cannot compete with a 427ci FORD CAST IRON SOHC CAMMER V8, Shit even DODGE BITCHED about the 427Ci SOHC CAMMER that they didn't want it in Nascar in the early 60's because it had WAY MORE POWER then a 426 and would mop the floor with Hemi's and GM's and Ford didn't install enough in Cars per Nascar's Rules during that ERA.

[untoldguitarist]

Which the best yr for the GM 454Ci was in 1970 in the Chevelle. Also "USNAVYSEALS99" Doesn't know shit about V8'S if he think's GM anything CI vs CI displacement will out preform a FORD or MOPAR. Shit a 305Ci GM cannot even out run a Ford 289Ci stock vs stock LMAO

[Quetzalcoytl]

a 305 is nothing but a worthless tractor motor.

[untoldguitarist]

Yeah I laugh when one of my good friends is still going through the GM stage in life, Like I did with a 1980 Pontiac Trans AM wasting his time and money into it; And his is a 1992 RS Camaro with a 305ci TBI intake. One Day the motor blown up in my 80' T/A, I got rid of it and now I am in the process of fixing up and restoring 1970 Mercury Cougar Xr-7 w/351W and C6 Trans bolted to a Ford 9" Rear End.

[Spywell]

My 72 351C H.O. R-Code has three trophies for first and second N/A for 11.3 in 1973.

The 72 HO is the same engine as the 72 except with low compression to comply with new regulations. The open chambers allow the engine to breathe better so if you change the timing you will get high compression that breathes better making the 72 HO faster than the 71 Boss.

Still own my 72.

BTW old Ford engines and Mopars dominated Chevy engines.

Now its just mopar....

[Spywell]

"The 72 HO is the same engine as the 71 Boss"

My mistake

[thoof2001]

@Spywell - Well, almost; the '72 HO had lower compression, 8.5:1, down from over 11:1 for the '71 Boss.

[Spywell]

@thoof2001 The 72HO had open chamber heads and lower compression to comply with regulations. We simply changed the timing back to where the 71 Boss was at and got the high compression back plus the open chamber heads breath a lot better giving a performance increase over the 71!

[untoldguitarist]

Thanks for the info. My self I am wanting to get either a 351C or a 427Ci Side oiler for my 70' XR-7 Cougar

[Spywell]

I have read all over the mustang forums that the 351C will take the 427 stock for stock.

My uncle had a 69 440 Roadrunner and he would wash my fathers mustang off the line, but here is his own words "the car would slingshot past him and always win in the quarter"

BTW our mustang gets like less than 10mpg city. Mileage only increases to 17mpg hwy if we are doing 80mph or more.

[machone7I]

@untoldguitarist Well, Fords were fast, they had awesome engines. The 427(425 in fact) the 351C and the Boss 429 are examples... Chrysler's 426 HEMI was a beast too... what did chevy do when ford and chrysler were ahead??? put a bigger engine. not a better but a bigger one. thats not out performing in my mind.

[428GT500KR]

@untoldguitarist your right also the 427 tunnelport

[tamapalagi]

One last dig before I leave this post. Best naturally aspirated engine LS7. Best horsepower bargain 5.7 vortec. Best big block ZL1. Ok I'm done. Sorry if I hurt anybody's delicate ego

[keeksta1]

best N/A motor is not an ls7....im gonna go with a mopar 440 6 pack

[gergatronic]

Back in the days of Trans-Am racing, the Ford Boss 302 was known to have a distinct horsepower advantage over its GM and Mopar rivals, so cube-for-cube, the Ford wins.

How can you compare Gen-3 type engines to iron Windsor/Clevelands? They have the advantage of 30 years more development.

Here in Aus, the LS1/LS2 alloy V8 is fitted to the GM Holden Commodore and while it produced the numbers on paper, time after time it's been said that they're gutless down low and just don't sound right.

[gergatronic]

LS1's are good value for horsepower but for how long? The first ones were attrocious for oil consumption and piston slap, and where I come from (Aus) they were replacing 1 in every 2 engines under warranty. That's stock, unmodified engines.

And another very important thing too, they sound shit...

So... gutless torque down low, poor reliability, and crap sounding.

Isn't a V8 supposed to have good torque down low, run forever, and sound tits?

Ford delivers the goods in my book.

[sirlonghair]

@gergatronic I like your argument but the LSX is a whole other story 460 pounds of low weight is nice to have the LS3 is just 418 pounds and hand built is a far cry from factory

[73sebrougham]

@gergatronic oh yeah ! mopar too cheevy sucks

[Mrphatbastard1]

@gergatronic Right on! Fords have always delivered the goods, always will...

[Quetzalcoytl]

Quantity vs. quality sir =\

they say you build 3 chevy blocks for the price of one ford but ford is the one that outlasts and does circles around them on the track, ive got a friend who fabricates and builds circle and dirt track cars and is the only ford on the track engulfed with chevies and stays on top .

[Quetzalcoytl]

not at all actually

[tamapalagi]

You ford guys are a pathetic daisy chain. You all suck each others dicks to feel good about yourselves. Just read these posts. Your measuring your dick from the wrong side of the ruler. Everywhere on youtube you ford/mustang guys have to over defend yourselves. So sorry and lame.

[ndubb1]

why the hell does it matter? if we talked about whatever you guys get a hard on for it'd be war

[bmxer193]

we over defend our selves? look what you just typed my friend!

[crazymonkey890]

dude, you're one to talk,

you're fighting over the net,

lol

[whisperingeye321]

there is not one better motor in the world. you can rape the shit out of a 351w and it will never stop running. this is what Im going to put in my 75 ford shortbed. fuck you guys putting chevy motors in a ford.

[jpitts1234]

i totally agree with you...

[importssuckazz]

dude thats awsome did you custom build it or can you buy them cuz that whould definitly give my thunderbird some balls

[tbirdpunk]

mn12? if so save yourself the headache haha. Go 347 if you have a 5.0 if you had a modular stoke to a 5.0 and call it a day.

[importssuckazz]

we whent in a diffrent direction with my bird we uped the trans and droped a 460 in it with bored .30 over pistons and doubel hump heads, a high rise 4 barrel intake manifold with a holly doubel pump carb and and a hpr air brather

i dose alright killls gas though

[bbsombs]

wish i had about?? 10,000 to buy that or how ever much it cost lol

[spunkyprep]

Amazing how everyone on here suddenly become a mechanical expert, huh?

[southernranger88]

I have that motor in my ford ranger and i smoke chevys all day

[scorpionlover911]

oh ya yeally i have a 1986 olds cutlass with a 331 stroker makes 327 motor makes 684hp hatfeild wi. drag strip i did a 9.83 quarter mile time at 140mph ect

[untoldguitarist]

What you don't think a fully built 351 W or C cannot get that power if set up for drag racing? Think again a fully built 351W stroker will fucking rape your GM any day of the week. You can get that type of power on pump gas with a 351 stroker. There is a reason why no GM motor entered in Engine Masters comp can even touch a Ford motor built by Jon Kaase.

[mcdaniel01]

Hey untoldguitarist preach on we know what Glidden did to the poor old bow tied cock suckers !! got there ass completely embarased with the old reliable small block Fords!!

[mcdaniel01]

Oh yeah forgot to mention i have a 64 ford falcon with a 351 w. stroked to the 396 that ran 138 miles an hour in the 1/8 mile and i'll take any of these quief chevy boys on any day they would like . so scorpionlover your 140 MPH SOUNDS PRETTY FUCKING SLOW TO ME , think you need to find another page to brag on before you get your ass embarased here.

[untoldguitarist]

exactly there was a guy in New PortRichey , Fl selling a 900Hp 15:1 comp, Glidden Pop Up Pistons 351C Drag Racing engine that wasn't even stroked or nothing just fully built to the max to spin over at 8500 RPM's each run. So he can put that in his pipe and smoke it. GM= Get Mechanic or GMC= GAY MANS CAR and also FYI Scorpionlover guess which company built the most potent BB v8 ever? Ford with the 427 SOHC Cammer BB with 616HP from the factory with a 4 BBL Carb even the 426 Hemi will bow down.

[mcdaniel01]

Oh i see why it did'nt break the 500 hp. mark it had a GM OIL FILTER ON IT SHIT CAN THAT FRAM FILTER AND PUT A MOTOCRAFT FILTER ON IT!! AND OUIT TALKING ABOUT CHEVYS THERE MOTORS MAKE GREAT BOAT ANCHORS FOR BREAM FISHING YOU CAN JUST CUT THE ROPE WHEN YOUR DONE, AND SAVE SOME PITIFUL DUMB ASS FROM WASTING HIS MONEY ON BUILDING YET ANOTHER 350

[untoldguitarist]

Thank You sir Finally someone with common sense

[untoldguitarist]

creampie once you grow a set of balls and sell your chevy shitbox then give us Men a holler. You know whats funny ford 347 Ford stroker = 625 HP and 383 Chevy stroker = 500 HP. The 347 is a 302 block and the 383 is a 350 chevy block. That is pretty fucking sad for power if you ask me. Trust me I have done my research a 351 Stroker I can get easily 800HP with no power adders like a shitbox chevy has to have to get any power.

[JLPIMPIN1992]

lol when he said "windsor"..i thought of the teacher in ferris beuhlers day off...."beuhler..beuhler"

[shootdagerbil]

fram sucks go with k&n,  351 windsors werent that great, now a cleveland is alot better 5.7s and 5.8s use too much gas for the power they make.. go with the 460 for your econoline :)

[OurFearlessLeader]

I want one for my econoline haha

[bmxer193]

499.9 HP lol couldnt get it to 500HP

[jtheaceman]

That injection looks sick!

[streetscraper1]

why the fuck does he have a fram oil filter and not a motorcraft?

[jasonforever92]

motocraft?? u gotta be kidding me.fram is way better then that motocraft shit.

[nickgr33n155]

yea man. Fram is waaaay better than motocraft

[ericbofcarsonc]

holy fuck thats truly a masterpiece that sounds better than any fucking stereo on the planet!! Boom that essay!!!

[TheCottonTop]

Fram oil filter. Dude, what the hell? Were they out of Motor Craft? Ahhhhhh!

[maxwell308]

Looks like a DTS dyanamometer setup. Are you happy with the system?

[gorillius]

351-W after spending some wrench time and a few 100s we found that the engine had ruff idle bad timeing and start failure due to one pushrod being slightly bent. found purely by chance and each p-rod was chk'd by being rolled on a flat glass surface We believe the rod became damaged after the engine accelerated rapidly and and nearly crashed the vehicle. We don't know what caused the sudden acceleration but the engine is now running fine and has passed Ca. smog cert.

[perrybucsdad]

Music to my ears!!

[Shocker6699]

You think i could borrow that engine? imma put it in my 94 f150

[Kooly1]

yeh i wanna put it in my 92 F150 :) then we can race lol

[gorillius]

you did a fantastic job with that 351W I have seen more problems with 351s W or C does not matter , I'm at the point where I hate those engines. My dad likes em,I'll push my wheels around before dropping a Ford in.

[35Remmy]

The 351 Fords are SUPER reliable and durable as all hell. Maybe you're simply biased, I don't know...the 351 is a great motor. After working around a machine shop for a while I'd take the Ford over a 350 ANY day.

[gorillius]

I believe you but it is because you know how to make them reliable. I'll be going in that direction but I need to know what resources to go to as I will be enheriting 5 351s and would not want to let my dads work be sold off if there is potential for building some good engines. one is bult nice but does not star anymore. He has problems with the distributor and timing. any tips would be appreciated.

[901fast65stang]

use a new ford duraspark dist. and comp cams double roller timing chain. ive never had a problem

[cortsy89]

hey if you're enheriting 5 351's I'd be very interested in buying one! message me back

[gorillius]

It will hopefully be a long time from now when those engines come into my hands but I will keep you on the list

[tamapalagi]

If Ford is better than Chevy why do Ford V8s need bigger cams,intakes and carbs to make the same hp as a 350? Don't just blab back look at edelbrock dyno packages. Ask around. Then holler back.

[901fast65stang]

ive built both 350,s and small block fords chevys are way cheaper to build but fords last longer,make more power,and sound better

[tamapalagi]

LAST LONGER? The Chevy 350 has powered more vehicles the the 351 variants. If the 351 was better why are there 3 and each one has too many weaknesses.

[alexzanderhill]

tamapalagi is an idiot the only 351 ever made that had weaknesses was the 351m the 351 Cleveland was in my opinion the best v8 ever made and the 351w puts out alot of power for fairly good gas mileage.

[GERMAN6660]

I agree with you, Fords have the best motors ever that is why there are way more Fords driving around than any other brand of car.

[creampieisGOOD]

ford engines suck.chevy engines are the beast man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!they smoke thoes crapy ford engines like hell

[untoldguitarist]

Your a fucking idiot for thinking that. 351 will crush a 350 all day. And even a ford 289 will crush a 350. That how sorry chevys are for power.

[tamapalagi]

Lease bulk sales you inbred sack of shit.

[67675656565655656565]

i agree in australia the 350 chevs powered some of the monaros and reviews said the 350's could rev alot harder than the 351's.I would call the 351's economical gt falcons in australia used up 2 35L/100 kays.I had heard of reports if you pushed the 351's in the gt's to hard they would end up blowing up.

[ModularCammer1979]

The 351 does not blow up as fucking easy as the junk ass 350...The 351 is a damn good engine.

[67675656565655656565]

well if the 351 is so great why was the 350 in production alot longer than the 351 ever was.

[ModularCammer1979]

Production time does not have anything to do with it. It was around for close to 25- 30 years. How freaking long does it need to be around? Gotta move on to new technology eventually. Freaking GM keeps finding ways to push the 350 over and over again. And give new and exciting names like LT1 or LS1 and basically its the same damn 350 cube boat anchor that has been used over and over again. Im honestly sick of seeing them. Time for something new.

[ModularCammer1979]

Yeah your right!!! Now do you know why?? Because they have the biggest aftermarket following in the country and you can buy more shit for them than any other car. They are quick bone stock and can be complete beasts for very little money. Oh yeah...And when the Crapmaro and Transam were in production ford sold more mustangs than GM sold Camaros and Trans am's combined.. Mustang has a very strong heritage behind it thats not going away any time soon.

[JeepCherokeeKid]

what happened to the camaro lol been gone for years

[alexzanderhill]

tamapalagi , you do know that Chevy's cams suck and that they snap in half ,and after this incident happens and you have to rebuild your motor you will have to take off the oil and you will find the cam broken in many pieces at the bottom of the motor at the bottom of the oil pan. thats why ford cams are bigger so they don't break

[alexzanderhill]

correction - you will have to take off the oil pan

[mcdaniel01]

because back in the 70's chevy bitched about ford producing so much horsepower, NHRA made ford go to the open chamber head and was'nt allowed to run the closed chamber anymore for a while, research to see when chevy was forced to go to the open chamber? i will answer that for you they never were made do it!! another thing when you build more compression, duh!! that means more exhaust to deal with. Please no more stupid questions!!!

[alexzanderhill]

gorillius your an idiot fords are the most reliable motors made, your dad is obviously alot more mechanically informed than you are or will ever be.

[gorillius]

Yes my dad is that and more,he does his own work because of bad experiences with crooked mechanics,one mechanic was very sorry,don't F with a bad ass 3rd div.infantryman no matter how old he is. Now I have a 98' Toyota with 311K miles ,passed smog cert every time,no adjustments,strong.70 miles per/day.You can wear the idiot shirt till your 351 does that.

[alexzanderhill]

man 311,000 k is nothing and anyways is it miles or kilometers cause you seem a bit confused wtf does 311k miles meen

[Peterbaa]

AS i said in a previous comment...Im still sticking to that but the only thing im trying to say is Europe has the Number1 super-cars in the world...try and argue with that....and i really dont give a crap how many thumbs down i get!

[gtdrummerdude]

I've seen more than a few videos of 2002-2005 Corvettes (420 hp) pulling away from brand new Lamborghinis on the highway. Now lets try it with the 7.0L (505 hp) or 6.2 s/c (620 hp) Corvettes or even the new 550 hp Caddy CTS-V. Only a top-end Ferrari will be able to accelerate as fast as the latter American cars. But throw a rod on a Ferrari and compare the cost to throwing a rod on a 'Vette. I'd rather have the 'Vette.....

[Peterbaa]

All these things People say about chevys and fords are CRAP!!! BMW for EVER!!! M5 Power!!!

[TheMrRichard]

You're dumb... The Corvette started the sports car revolution. BMW wouldn't exist if it werent for Chevy. I don't believe BMW has even put a car out that can compete with the Z06 or even the ZR-1.  So you take your "German Engineering" and your twice as expensive repairs back to Germany.

[DUDE3011]

to all thoughs die heart ford and chevey guys! they all have their ups and downs just injoy the beutiful sound of the V8s and if you cant do that build both and race both then you can talk which 1 you like... and i bet you will love both at the race track if you build them right....

[fajing060]

Ahhhh shucks......round off the HP to the nearest .010th ya tightwad! LOL.

[minivan442]

Im putting a 420hp 351 windsor in my 64 Mercury Comet Cyclone

[TonyMakkinen]

Yo tengo un FOCUS y no suena así :( :( jajajajaja, dios suena a BIG FOOT!!!!

[justlivemyway2]

awesome sound!!!!!...i love it

[408Sleeper]

this is the problems with you freaking morons! chevy this-ford that. shut the hell up and respect something for a change. you sorry morons probably have nothing to brag about but have to talk crap of everyone else's accomplishment

[eigerbrad]

hey! i have lots of stuff to brag about. like when i boned your girlfriend last night for example

[ellesdee1988]

she told me she didnt feel anything anyway, and when you left she couldnt help but laugh coz the big chevy engine car u drive compensates for your small dick... ps you make me sick

[eigerbrad]

Ford engines suck

GM makes real motors

[selectivelyours]

you suck

[eigerbrad]

i suck your moms sweet tits

[mrbackdraft004]

who do you think beat ferrari in the 60's (FORD GT 40) learn ur history b4 u run your mouth i have a 06 mustang gt but i like chevy big blocks also that will be my 2nd muscle car an old chevy that i will restore

[chevymotors]

Mustangs are like assholes. Everyons got one.

[mustangman442002]

Chevys are like Daewoo's, they're shit

[ndubb1]

HELL YEA SOMEONES FINALLY GOT A FUNNY ASS RESPONSE lol nice one

[Nza420]

@mustangman442002 did not Daewoo make HUGE engines before venturing into small engine territory?  I believe so. The overwhelming majority of their engines are *not* shit.

[loki153624]

@mustangman442002 call it fanboy-ism, but i laughed

[Kooly1]

u wish a chevy sounded lyk that lol they sound lyk vacuum cleaners with a clog in it

[BenCrazyAussie]

port the heads, up the cam and put a carb on it, a beautiful engine..much more pleasing to the eye then mine, just a tad low on hp for the money it would have cost.

trumpet injection really only benifits for circut or methanol, otherwise the money is better spent porting heads ect

[19LIPPY55]

hope those headers got that color from a different engine!

[pootahyt]

19lippy55 - You were reading my mind!

[19LIPPY55]

just like most Ford engines, look and sound ok on the stand!

[5769JJ]

Good numbers! Fuel Injected WITHOUT a power adder....

[PrussianBlueFan88]

My '87 F150 sure could use a new motor.

[Kooly1]

yeh lol im thinking of putting this in my 92 F-150. seriously but damn i aint got the money lol

[buschris]

No, this belongs in my 06 Mustang YEAH!!!!!!!

[conan351]

That is sick, Needs more engine running time on dyno in video

[Mikestochat]

OMG! Very NICE!

[number1punisher]

ya that is a nice one

[gordotj]

good for trophy truck nice

[powerpeecee]

too much talking, not enough running the engine!

[BrothaMancomcast]

I second that!!!!