While I disagree with some of your points about God, at least we both DO agree that atheism is the belief that there is no God. I guess I should have been more specific with the "myth" term. I agree that it's a falsehood. I think to subscribe to the idea that people are born atheist is believing in a myth. We really must chat about God sometime. I disagree with your point that theists are making God up. How do you know?
In any case, I'll approve your response to allow for fair debate. Thanks!
Anyone who has a discussion with Tonloc1986 on his own channel risks being blocked for any arbitrary reason he can think of.
If he was fair hed actually adhere to the rules he himself set up on his page instead of moving the goalposts whenever he feels his position is being seriously challenged.
Tonloc, I thought that you would be a breath of fresh air to all the other dishonest creationists. I was wrong.
This is a warning to anyone else considering a debate with Tonloc.
I DO accept atheist videos in my responses. Apparently, you haven't looked at my "Debunking The Everyone is born Atheist myth" video.
Your assertions mean absolutely nothing. I don't accept irrational nonsense in my videos. Challenging my position is NOT the problem. Challenging my position on an IRRATIONAL basis IS the problem. For those who want to see what really happened in our little discussion, they can look here:
So I suggest you stop slandering my name on other people's videos. This video is not even relevant to what went on between the two of us. If you want the last word, fine, but I won't respond to any responses about our discussion on another user's video. That's very disrespectful.
I had no intention of continuing the discussion here. Thats why I have my channel.
As for relevancy, I am contesting your fairness claim here in the comments. Claiming to be in support of fair dialogue is one thing, but if youre going to block people on your channel without warning and for reasons which are subjective (and even dishonest) and are not explicitly stated in your rules, I think others should be aware of that risk.
The argument, as I am sure you know, that babies are born atheists is that religion is something that is taught and learned, your stating that the baby is actually a none theist, but the definition "lacks belief in a god or gods" is one universally recognised by many dictionaries, I don't see where you take issue?.
Is this something like, an atheist is making a conscious choice to omit a god from there world view?
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boorens18 2 years ago
While I disagree with some of your points about God, at least we both DO agree that atheism is the belief that there is no God. I guess I should have been more specific with the "myth" term. I agree that it's a falsehood. I think to subscribe to the idea that people are born atheist is believing in a myth. We really must chat about God sometime. I disagree with your point that theists are making God up. How do you know?
In any case, I'll approve your response to allow for fair debate. Thanks!
Tonloc1986 3 years ago
For some reason, I attempted to approve your video response, but it's not showing up. I don't know what the problem is. Hmm...
Tonloc1986 3 years ago
Fair? Please.
Anyone who has a discussion with Tonloc1986 on his own channel risks being blocked for any arbitrary reason he can think of.
If he was fair hed actually adhere to the rules he himself set up on his page instead of moving the goalposts whenever he feels his position is being seriously challenged.
Tonloc, I thought that you would be a breath of fresh air to all the other dishonest creationists. I was wrong.
This is a warning to anyone else considering a debate with Tonloc.
LittleMachiavelli 3 years ago 4
I DO accept atheist videos in my responses. Apparently, you haven't looked at my "Debunking The Everyone is born Atheist myth" video.
Your assertions mean absolutely nothing. I don't accept irrational nonsense in my videos. Challenging my position is NOT the problem. Challenging my position on an IRRATIONAL basis IS the problem. For those who want to see what really happened in our little discussion, they can look here:
/watch?v=oJQn5ukKmkw&feature=channel_page
Continued...
Tonloc1986 3 years ago
So I suggest you stop slandering my name on other people's videos. This video is not even relevant to what went on between the two of us. If you want the last word, fine, but I won't respond to any responses about our discussion on another user's video. That's very disrespectful.
Tonloc1986 3 years ago
I had no intention of continuing the discussion here. Thats why I have my channel.
As for relevancy, I am contesting your fairness claim here in the comments. Claiming to be in support of fair dialogue is one thing, but if youre going to block people on your channel without warning and for reasons which are subjective (and even dishonest) and are not explicitly stated in your rules, I think others should be aware of that risk.
LittleMachiavelli 3 years ago
Used to be a cat 1 notter myself. Am now a non-notter.
mungbeanman 3 years ago
I also disagree with your premise!. I hold my self to be an agnostic, an atheist, a none theist and an anti-theist!.
All terms apply, given the intent of the verbiage!. It is dependant on the definition that were subscribing to!.
joebot1 3 years ago
The argument, as I am sure you know, that babies are born atheists is that religion is something that is taught and learned, your stating that the baby is actually a none theist, but the definition "lacks belief in a god or gods" is one universally recognised by many dictionaries, I don't see where you take issue?.
Is this something like, an atheist is making a conscious choice to omit a god from there world view?
joebot1 3 years ago
""strong atheists", holding the position that no gods exist"
Atheists claim they believe no God exists. It is not the claim no God exists.
Do you see the difference?
xJediHowieX 3 years ago 2
notter extremism :D
That's funny....
Logic bomb 'em GLKR ;)
xJediHowieX 3 years ago 2
Except, lacking belief in a God does not render an atheist, it renders a nontheist.
gklr 3 years ago
There are no cardboard boxes in foxholes.
superfisto 3 years ago
"There are no cardboard boxes in foxholes."
lol
gklr 3 years ago