NYC protest of Israeli atrocities against Palestinians

[playlistboyz111]

I believe the Jewish people deserve a second chance (after the Holocaust), and Israel is their second chance being protected and defenced is their second chance (by IDF).

So we might do bad things and they might do bad things, but hey don't you remember! THERE ARE 2 SIDES TO THIS CONFLICT!

Let me know what you think, and show me your opinions..

LONG LIVE ISRAEL!

[playlistboyz111]

done wrong, even on the wars and before the wars, but just so you'll know the British Mandate did bad things to Arabs and Israelis and the Turkish empire to the people who lived here back then.

most of the army actions of Israel are not wrong, and not everybody kills or terrors Palestinians.. actually all of this happens on wars, and on wars that's what happens- people are killed from both sides..

and there are even wars between Palestinians.. for example the Fatah and the Hamas war in Gaza.

[playlistboyz111]

they gathered all the states surrounding Israel and created a mass army..

Israel was little, new and less strong, but could beat them at last.

and because the Palestinians themselves striked they lost their homes, lands and mosques.

that's sad, we could actually live with them, but they started and they abandoned their homes, and no just for your information I don't hate Palestinians (only Hamas and terrorists. of course I hate those organizations) Also I know many things we the Israelis..

[playlistboyz111]

the German people and thought this was their country..

but with ridiculous reasons and ideologies the Nazis decided to strike and just created destruction machines to Jews, Germans and people all over Europe who resisted them, or were just in a low place on the "nazi bible" or sick..

in our generation, November 29th, 1947, the UN declared their agreement on the foundation of a JEwish state.

One day after it, the Arabs (or Palestinians) striked Israel, and started a huge war.

[playlistboyz111]

OK, listen all you idiots.. there are few things you all forget:

Palestine is a name the Romans gave to Israel when Jews lived here about 2000 years ago, so please.. if somebody is called the Palastine people, these are Jews.

2. there's a huge difference between the holocaust and now..

in the Holocaust, Hitler and the Nazis considered Jews as maggots, germs and the worst thing ever.. also this hate probably rose out of jealousy, because Jews knew how to work and get money, Jews also supported..

[BlackRoof]

SPREAD THE NEWS!!

Break the Zionist media strangle hold!

[TheDetective1]

Peace to Palestine,

FUCK ISRAEL

[whitemanstand72]

3:08 one dumb Woman

[popie333]

isreal is a genocidal blob , it will comsume all it's neighbors, and keep killing until it's stopped or runs out of victims. The U S is a puppet state of isreal. When the U S goes to war , we do it like a trained attack dog of isreal.

[jrigeli]

I gotta go. Wiki Arab Peace Initiative and read up on that. That's the solution I believe in.

Good night.

[Buanand]

How can the Jews even have the gall to talk about the Holocaust after what they're doing now?! How quickly people forget!!

[bishopdonwaun]

yeah and i went to a protest last weak and theyre was people that came across the street with israeli flags.. like seriously how can they even compare? its like 9 israeli deaths to 900 palestinians

[jrigeli]

Luckily, Obama and Biden are smart enough not to buy into your propaganda. I am glad they support Israel.

[bishopdonwaun]

what?!? propaganda??? do you have no clue to facts? and obama has sad nobody suffers more than the people of palestine but your right with all the zionist here influencing him he will prolly do nothing, But you sir are a complete moron if you think 900 people dead is propaganda. And almost half of that is children israel bombed a UN school for refugees and have been stealing and murdering for years. Have you ever wondered what country gets your tax dollars? ever heard of rachel corrie? WAKE UP!!

[jrigeli]

No nation would put up with rocket attacks. The fact that Israel waited this long to do something is a mystery to me. If Israel is interested in killing Palestinians, they would be attacking the West Bank too. But they don't. Why? Because they aren't firing rockets into Israel. Hamas is the problem. Stop being an apologist for them. They brought this on themselves.

Rachel Corrie, isn't she that stupid chick that that ran in front of a bulldozer?

[bishopdonwaun]

wow your obviously a moron zionist.. stupid chick that ran infront of a bulldozer? do you know anything about palestinians getting there holmes demolished because of this new wall thats funded through us tax dollars? and its not just this wall israel has been demolishing houses and stealing lands from the begining.. hamas has every right to fire rockets they arent terrorist they are freedom fighters. let me give you an example what state are you from?

[jrigeli]

And you are some leftist nut. Corrie was an accident, are you suggesting Israel kills protesters? Come on. And why were they building that wall? Because Israel was getting inundated with suicide bombers. Blowing up buses full of school children, or did you forget that? How convenient. What state am I from? Let's say Colorado. Hamas does not have the right to fire rockets. It is against international law. They aren't even suppose to be smuggling rockets in. This is not the way to peace.

[bishopdonwaun]

ok first of all you have you history all screwed up.. you believe that corrie was an accident and israel has never killed protestors and that theyre are so many sucide bombers your listening to the zionist that to everything to defend israel including distort if you wanna see real statistics with referances go to ifamericansonlyknew(dot)com and please actually read

and ok your from colorado say jews invaded colorado and said everyone that was jewish was gonna have to live in a tiny strip

[jrigeli]

ifamericansonlyknew is a biased website. Check wiki and get both sides of the story. Jews didn't just go into Palestine and kick nonjews out. Did you know almost 20% of Israeli citizens are Palestinians? Palestine was a territory controlled by outside forces for 2000 years

(Romans, Crusaders, Ottomans, Brits) When the Brits moved out the intention was to split Israel into an Arab nation and a Jewish nation. Jews wanted it, Arabs didn't. Instead there was war. It's been a mess ever since.

[bishopdonwaun]

what you just said is FALSE! 20 percent was not jewish you are crazy and actually the jews that were originally there lived in peace with muslims and did not want it to become a jewish state as you see there are still many non zionist jews today.. the jews that immagrated and wanted the zionism were Ashkenazi Jews.. actually during the crusades jews and muslims fought togther against the christians.. and ifamericansonlyknew is not biased it has plenty of references

[jrigeli]

You say that's false? From Wiki...

"Arab citizens of Israel, who comprise 19.8% of the population, contribute significantly to that figure as over four fifths (82.6%) of them are Muslim. Of the remaining Israeli Arabs, 8.8% are Christian and 8.4% are Druze."

So what they have references. They push one side of the story.

Try this for another side...

christianactionforisrael . org / guide.html

[bishopdonwaun]

and look at the map of the jewish and arab terroritorys after israel became a country.. look they just keep taking more and more land.. please look for yourself. And if i had 1 dollar for every brainwashed american ive argued with id have alot of beans and biscuits by now.. i will tell you the same as all the others i have talked to.. go over there for yourself and meet them. I have went over and helped a rebuild holmes for palestinians. its not them to be afraid of its the israeli military

[jrigeli]

I believe Israel should go back to 1967 borders. The Palestinians get a homeland of their own. In return, Israel should get full recognition from the Arab states. This is what the Arab Leagues Peace Plan calls for.

What is wrong with this?

[jrigeli]

Let me just say this. The history is far more complex than what you say. I believe in a two state solution. Israel's right to exist and a homeland for Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. I am against Hamas because they are hardliners which makes peace just that much harder to happen. You just can't look at stats and say this makes one side right and the other wrong. Palestinians have suffered, and part of the problem is there own leadership. So how do u fix it? Not by supporting Hamas.

[bishopdonwaun]

ok i just found something very interesting from wikipedia since you wanted to bring this up and im not trying to rub this in your face but want you to see it.. i searched palestine and about halfway down the page when its telling about before the mandate

According to Alexander Scholch, the population of Palestine in 1850 had about

350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims, 11% were Christians and 4% Jews

so you must have got your info messed up

[jrigeli]

I'm not talking about 1850. In 30 AD 95% were Jewish.

[bishopdonwaun]

well for 1 before the israelis came from eygpt canaans were the true people of the land.. what if they come back in crazy numbers with backing from china and they say that there star signs actually promised them the land? you think that would be right to murder a bunch of people thats living there? and im not totally covinced that it was ever 95 percent the romans kicked them out and were allowed back in by persians.

[bishopdonwaun]

sorry i need to make a correction. i ment to say everyone that WAS'NT jewish would have to over populate themselves in a tiny strip of the state where there land was taken and they were now living in poverty.. you dont think there would be some americans trying to revolt?? and just go to the site i listed and look at the numbers.. also look at all the videos on yourtube on how they are treated.. they kill innocent civilians 10 to 1 with no shame.

[jrigeli]

It is a shame. But Hamas shouldn't have started it. There was suppose to be a cease fire. But they fired rockets anyway. Gaza was part of Egypt, when the Israel/Arab war broke out, that is where many Palestinians fled and became refugees. Israel won the war and the Palestinians got stuck there. Israel doesn't want Gaza. They pulled out of Gaza years ago. They just want the rocket attacks to stop. Israel is in favor of a Palestinian Homeland, aren't you?

[bishopdonwaun]

why would israel want gaza they have 90 percent of the territory now.. and of course they won palestine dont even have an amry.. and i personally dont think hamas started it because look to the video bar to the right of the page and click the first video.. this is stuff you never hear about but its true.. did you hear about the attack on navy ship by israelis? probly not because they are totally backed by us. Look how me jews israel has and how many in usa its almost the same

[jrigeli]

See all you are doing is going back and pointing out Corrie and now the USS Liberty, something that happened 40 years ago. Should be be against Japan because of Pearl Harbor too? Come on. What does this have to do with solving the conflict? You want to have a tit for tat? I can tell you how Palestinians celebrated in the streets when the World Trade Towers collapsed.  But none of this is relevant to the conflict.

[bishopdonwaun]

and i read differnt from wikipedia.. you are talking about before the jewish immagration right? because before the british mandate came into affect all the Ashkenazi Jews were immagrating there and buying up all the land and not even allowing arabs to be on it or to be sold back and arabs figured out what they were trying to do... but im gonna go look in wikipedia now to see because im sure that before 1900 that only like 4 percent were actual jews that lived on that land and did not immagrate

[jrigeli]

I am talking today, about 20% of Israeli's are Arabs.

[bishopdonwaun]

yeah i can believe that 20 percent is now arabs israels plan has worked good since they are backed by the most powerful military in the world. And i think that would definetly be great if they atleast went back to the 1967 borders but lets be real can you see israel doing that?

[jrigeli]

How quickly you forget that Israel has endured rocket attacks for years from Hamas. Hamas was warned many times to stop or they would be attacked.

And now you wonder why this is happening? The blood of Palestinians is on the hands of Hamas.

[bishopdonwaun]

and by the way im really not a leftist im from kentucky pal.. i consider myself a libertian and my first choice was for ron paul a rebulican but after seeing there was no chance yes i voted for obama that dont mean i fully support him like so many stupid republicans swing from daddy bushs nut sack and defend for him all day.. i just think obama will make a better president than mccain i have my reasons but im not trying to debate politics. This is about gaza and everyone turning there back to it

[Salimtosh]

These people might be calling for "murder" and "hate" but Israel is doing it in practice and has been doing it for the last 60 years. The real ignorance is in those who question the clear concience and responsibility portrayed by others...

[Salimtosh]

its funny how history repeats itself and the jews didn't learn from it but they love to tell the world about their past experience. The Warsaw Ghetto and concentration camps are being reinvented by the same Holocaust survivors and their descendants in the occupied Palestine. Well, as they say the world is round and what goes around will come around!