Ninjutsu Soke Toshitsugu Takamatsu Teaches Techniques XI

[RhadeConstantine]

ah creationsofmyown has been lying here too, first of all the BRD does accept takamatsu and togakure ryu, second the Kakutogi no rekishi mentions togakure ryu before takamatsu's birth, but I guess takamatsu time travelled and went back before he was born to create this "fake" school second the zen nippon todo renmei also accept the BJK. Draeger's one of the most respected ma scholars and he accepts the BJK as genuine too, I guess creationsofmyown cant resist from showing his ignorance everywhere

[aladonocturno]

what clan is that style?

[rakanzrib]

@aladonocturno that's togakure-ryu to you sir!

[aladonocturno]

bujinkan sucks

[zapata5551]

@aladonocturno your a punk ass mather fucker

[aladonocturno]

@zapata5551 ????????????

[nemanja0640260656]

@aladonocturno hahahaha

[cooldangeneva]

Actually, Takamatsu Toshitsugu did die at the age of 84 years old, in 1972. He was the Grand Master of Masaaki Hatsumi, the only Grand master of the Bujinkan. There are lots of people starving for celebrity, but Hatsumi was alone when studying during the last 15 years of Takamatsu's life. Have wisdom, my friends.

[tessa2003]

sorry this is simply not true, there are multiple witnesses, that show there were definately other students. Please explain about Masaji Kimura soke of Tenshin Hyoho Kukishin ryu, most senior to Akimoto..........he trained until the end. Also Fukumoto Yoshi ura menkyo kaiden in Togakure ryu, alot of hidden history is what it is

[ItalianMuscle88]

@cooldangeneva - Tamamatsu din't create the bujinkan, hatsumi did. 

[Arteanor]

@ItalianMuscle88

no, but takamatsu DID create all of the 'ninjutsu' that he taught hatsumi...

why else do we see NONE of the things that the shinobi manuals teach to be ninjutsu, and only 'taijutsu'???

did you know that takamatsu started teaching hatsumi ( who started teaching tanemura) the same art... but called it 'kukishin ryu ninpo' ????

it wasn't until kukishin got pissed that he MADE UP the story of togakure ryu... which is why there is no evidence of toda shinryuken

[HIRE2HACK]

@Arteanor toda shinryuken masamitsu grave was found recently.

[Arteanor]

@HIRE2HACK

its easy to SAY that... but nobody can actually prove it...

not that the name 'Toda Masamitsu "Shinryuken"' WOULD be on his grave.... shinryuken is supposedly a 'warrior name'... NOT his formal name, which would appear on the grave... BUT nobody knows Toda "Masamitsu's" real name... since Masamitsu doesnt show up in the Toda records either....

and how could it be FOUND? how could it be lost?

and why doesnt takamatsu know his grandfather's real name???

[Arteanor]

@ItalianMuscle88

worth noting...

people like Rhade, below us will ACTIVELY LIE to get you to buy into this school....

"second the Kakutogi no rekishi mentions togakure ryu before takamatsu's birth"

this book was written in 1990... decades after takamatsu's death.

[dirosaga]

@Arteanor There is alot of repgnance regarding the popular and "capitalist" schools of Ninjutsu: that of the Bujinkan and Genbukan. Many who i've spoken too are turned off by the way they do things, their attitdes and greed. But at the end of the day, if the techniqwue is still as effective as it was taught by Tokagure, i see it possible to train to learn the techniques and ignore the other BS. what do you think. is there technique good? And if not,are there OTHER AUTHENTIC JAPANESE Ninjutsuryu?

[Arteanor]

@dirosaga "But at the end of the day, if the techniqwue is still as effective as it was taught by Tokagure,"

Daisuke Nishina/Togakure is a fictional character...

this school's history begins with takamatsu.

"ignore the other BS."

that "BS" is that this ISN'T NINJUTSU

"what do you think. is there technique good?"

YES, i think it's a good martial art, but it is most definitely NOT any sort of ninjutsu.

"are there OTHER AUTHENTIC JAPANESE Ninjutsuryu"

if so, they are still hiding,

[dirosaga]

@Arteanor woops i meant to say Takamatsu not Togakure. Still hiding though eh, that is too bad. Thanks for the answer. Just out of curiosity though, is it your stance that Takamatsu did not teach ninjutsu nor expect it to be called ninpo-- and rather just taught some sort of taijutsu or other koryu? Is it your stance that Takamatsu is a fraud too for calling it Ninpo? (i'm not very knawledgable in this area, but i'v heard that Takamatsu is alright, and Hatsumi and Tanemura are greedy :p)

[Arteanor]

@dirosaga

"Just out of curiosity though, is it your stance that Takamatsu did not teach ninjutsu nor expect it to be called ninpo-- "

yes it appears that way

"and rather just taught some sort of taijutsu or other koryu?"

its a samurai ambush school

"Is it your stance that Takamatsu is a fraud too for calling it Ninpo?"

a ninjutsu fraud yes. his claim is not genuine,

" Hatsumi and Tanemura are greedy :p"

both are filthy rich ages ago, its for great great grandchildren now.

[Omusubi1979]

fantastic

[tadashiki]

ditto !

[MishimaYukio17]

who are you people? lol

[TenguTech]

people who have experienced the horrors of the Bujinkan!

[Shinobiriz]

Ninjutsu Guyz our world wide name is "Bujinkan" Bujinkan means Hall Of Divine Warriors,This is the group that learn how to be an Ninja

[kricotoy]

my respect for that man

from mexico

[Creationsofmyown]

uh... how you gonna learn to be ninja from someone who never was taught it?

takamatsu made up everything he ever taught as ninjutsu... it was even in the Bugei Ryuha daijiten....

hatsumi doesnt know ninjutsu... its simply a facsimile... hence the refusal to remain in the Nihon Kobudo Shinkokai...