@seanstrnad The Shuttle cockpit returned to Earth, and there was evidence that the astronauts survived the explosion. It was conceivable that there may have been survivors.
@alexandicity stop with that nonsense conspiracy bs. It rumours trying to stir things up, with no hard evidence. YOu and other kids watch conspiracy videos on youtube and all of a sudden believes the goverment was behind it. dont trust everything you see or hear on the internet
1) This is YouTube. I wouldn't read too much into the comments here. Few of them are worth reading, much less worth worrying about.
2) it is possible that maiser and you misunderstood my comment. The cockpit did return to Earth, and it was largely intact. It was fished from the ocean and thoroughly documented. I fail to see how this is in any way controversial.
Challenger did not explode. It fragmented. The issue came from damage to the SRB Rocket caused by a faulty insulation ring meant to keep the fuel inside the rocket. When the ring let go, so did the rest of the ship. And it has been proven that these astronauts did not die initially. When the cabin was found in the water, all necessary emergency buttons, switches, etc, had been activated and/or actuated.
@fierokr3w Not true. In that case than England, Spain, France, Germany, Slovakia, Russia, china, Italy, all of Africa, Ireland, all of the middle east, all of the Americas. In fact, every country in the world EXCEPT the area around the Nile delta home to the earliest known civilization. And saying MY COUNTRY means its the country you are in. So dumbass how do you feel now?
@PsychLion What a shitty thing to say to someone? My first comment was because of a man telling someone to in quote "get the hell out of my country", and this guy randomly commented me with a rude remark at the end. Read up before judging someone.
HAHAHA look at macaullife's dad, what a jerk. he looks like he's dressed up to go watch a golf tournament, not a fucking shuttle launch. nice hat gramps, i guess the challenger really WAS a "hole in one".
@lewisclark1800 "total fag" lol umm ok. Interesting since I only bang women. Seems to me a humorless cunt like you who's obsessed with gayness might be a bit repressed? Lol what an idiot
Rednecks? If you are referring to my picture, its a BURNING confederate flag, dumb ass. Where as if we refer to your picture we can discern you take it in the ass HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
And right about now, I should be impaling your mom with my Meat Wrench. LOL
Now I'm a "negro"? HAHAHA look at the troll without any material LOL
Well, I can tell you are some pale faced fuck, with a small dick and some serious insecurity issues.
Hey its cool, maybe taking more self pics in the bathroom mirror like a 14 yo girl will help you feel better and allow you to forget about your tiny penis LOL
@MrGrevy Fuck you Nazi racist piece of shit. what is wrong with your crooked whites on youtube? you use racial issue on every fucking thing. I hope you drop dead and burn you bitch. this planet does no need you.
@1:37,2:30,9:57 &10:17 parachute said 'paramedic bailing out over the scene 12.5-28miles off shore'
1) PARACHUTE TOO BIG at that distance & WRONG TYPE for a controlled descent.
2) Parachute (excluding "paramedic" or cargo) can be seen clearly @12.5-28miles off shore? Yet Dan said @0:23 parachute is part of a "live picture from CAPE CANAVERAL,FL"
3) RESCUE HELICOPTERS NEVER WASTE TIME gaining altitude just to parachute in to water crash site.
I think, 25 years later, it's time to give up on the conspiracy theories about why the Challenger exploded. I came here to read memories people had of this tragic day, and it was annoying as hell to have to wade through all this bullshit about "negligence" and "O-rings."
Why do we always have to figure out ways to blame the proverbial "enemy" when we should be using this as a way to come together in shared experience. Find a new tragedy to pick apart, please.
This is one of those American moments that is burned into the minds of everyone who was alive to witness it. I was in the 3rd grade in Virginia, in my school auditorium, watching it live with 500 other students and teachers. When this happened, we didn't understand what was going on, and the teachers (in tears) quickly turned it off and whisked us back to class. It was an extremely traumatic time, and it felt like the entire country was in shock. I'll never forget it.
I was 10yrs old and my classmates, teacher and I watched this. As fellow New Englanders we were very excited which segued to confusion and of course grief! We were given counseling to understand what we saw with our own eyes and felt in our hearts. I watched this today for the first time since and was taken right back to that confused, sadden little girl. The seven member crew will never be forgotten and are forever free to fly in the sky! May you all rest in peace.
@MrGrevy Stop, being racist is just another way of telling the world you are a complete moron. Listen buddy it is 2012, there is one race the human race now what the fuck are you?
@MrGrevy right...because America consists only of caucasian christians. All of your previous comments prove you are anything but decent and upstanding. Your last comment (so get out of my country) is probably the most un-American thing you could say. Like the guy below me said, one race, the human race.
It was heartbreaking seeing the parents of Christa McAuliffe looking so proud as the shuttle headed towards space only for them to witness their daughter dying seconds later.
@mheinrichs1974 From the accident report, they believe given the condition of the bodies and the condition of the crew module, the Astronauts survived the explosion, and were alive all the way down. The only good news is that they were likely not conscious due to the forces involved in the explosion and breakup of the vehicle.
@TfiveR bullshit. Nobody could survive that. That's like saying that someone survived a car being blown up but then died later at the hospital. The entire shuttle completely disintegrated.
@gamingeagle19 The destruction of the launch vehicle was caused by a failure of the O ring on one of the primary boosters. The detonation of the fuel tank did destroy the shuttle, but the nose section was blown free. This is why the found the crew compartment, rather than finding nothing but scrap. It's called reading; it's what one does before talking so as not to look like an idiot. F*cking dumbass. Try something as simple as a web search before you call bullshit. Kids today..
@TfiveR I'm 23 and I see no such thing. The entire thing completely blew up. Nothing got "blown free". I can see it plain as day. The ENTIRE shuttle is completely engulfed in flames and just a few seconds the only thing left is one of fuel pods that flies around before it too explodes. There is no way they were alive the whole time. They died instantly.
@gamingeagle19 S still a kid, son, you just don't know it. And if you watch more analysis of the video, they have clearly determined the object that is most likely the crew module. And it is known fact that crew members DID survive. Again, you would know if you were READING instead of TALKING. No chance you bothered to do that in the time it took you to respond, so clearly you must enjoy it. Take some time, and do your homework.
@TfiveR besides it's only speculation that they were conscious. It's far more likely that they became unconscious after just a few seconds but nothing is 100% sure. But in any case if they didn't die immediately after the explosion they most likely fell unconscious just seconds later and died immediately after impact with the ocean. We were both only partly correct.
@gamingeagle19 That sounds like a retraction to me. AGAIN, try this website called "GOOGLE" It is just FULL of helpful information. Nice attempt at a save though.
@TfiveR you should have cited sources. You come on a video where all we can see is the entire shuttle engulfed in flames in an explosion and you just say "yeah they were alive the whole time".
this wasn't a debate or a scientific video. Most people including myself are not aware that the crew compartment came apart or could withstand that amount of stress. So don't come on here acting like I'm some idiot just because I'm not a scholar on the subject you tool.
@gamingeagle19 THAT is the best you've got? I SAID it, because it IS what happened. The resources are at YOUR disposal. You just spouted your mouth off like a child. I watched the shuttle launch LIVE. And I watched and read everything that came out about it over the months of the investigation. And I covered the case study in college. Citing my sources? It is WELL KNOWN by people who actually give a damn. You are an idiot for claiming to know anything enough to give you the ability to comment.
@TfiveR most people will assume that they died instantly because that's what it looks like. You come on here out of the blue saying no they survived with no substance to back it up and for what? What purpose does that even serve. It's not like you were correcting someone else in the comments or in the video. You came to "show off" your knowledge and then instead of just correcting me you get on a soapbox and declare me an idiot. Yeah, real classy.
@gamingeagle19 I came here to watch a video and make a comment on something that mattered to me. And you came on here and basically called me bulshit without checking to see if I actually knew what I was talking about. Well, it turns out I wasn't so full of it, and you were wrong. So you picked a fight that you lost. And you are kinda coming off as an idiot since you can't seem to to stop talking. Let it go. Now you are making me feel bad for you. Look at the bright side; you learned something.
@TfiveR I called your theory bullshit and since you didn't even bother posting any evidence it was exactly that. Just some guys opinion. And YOU started the fight in case you forgot. All I did was say I didn't believe you and that there was no way they could have survived that hence the "bullshit" part. You then proceeded to jump down my throat and insult me for not "knowing" what you knew. You're the definition of an elitist snob so excuse me for getting defensive.
@gamingeagle19 That is an abuse of the word "Theory". And you haven't seemed to notice it is the "opinion" of a lot of other people, too. You never said "I believe", you said "Nobody could survive" as if it were fact. It was not. And define elitist snob? You basically thought your opinion was a fair leverage against something you hadn't read clearly anything on? Your belief in your own self seems to define that statement. So, yeah, you're defensive, because you were wrong.
@TfiveR No it's fact that people caught in explosions of that magnitude do not survive. Ever. I was unaware that the crew compartment detached AND that it could withstand that. It's as simple as that. If you would have just said that from the beginning instead of being harsh we could have avoided all of this. I get defensive when people get aggressive. Plain and simple.
@gamingeagle19 Not corect. Look up Col. Paul Stapp. 32 G is the upper limit for walking away. You can get up to 45 g and survive, but you won't be the same. The human body is quite robust. The crew module peaked at 20 G, and was well within it's design limits within 4 sec. Also, switches in the module were flipped that cannot be done by the explosion or water impact. Also, 3 of the PEAPS were activated. So you can be in an explosion and survive. Actually quite easy. This is all in the report.
@TfiveR let me rephrase. I'm not talking about being in an explosion in a highly protected cabin. I'm talking just in general. If a person is in an explosion like that they are dead. Fire, force etc.
Like I said I was not at first aware of just how protected the cabin was AND that it broke off. It appears in the video that everything just disintegrated.
@gamingeagle19 That everything just disintegrated was the most that many of us watching it had. Unfortunately, it was worse than we could have feared.
But again, you would be surprised what the human body can withstand. As long as you don't experience forces beyond those that Stapp helped pin down, you are just fine. And outside of an enclosed space, it's actually not that difficult. A bit of fire.. not good, but not THAT bad. Shrapnel.. well, that's a problem.
@gamingeagle19 Really what preserved the crew cabin was how robust it was, and the fact the vehicle was traveling vertically at speed. When it exploded from the bottom of the tank, the crew module rode the shock wave along with it's already significant velocity up and out of the blast. Realistically, not the best outcome, since nobody bothered to put ejection seats in the thing.
Ejection seats were, in fact, installed in the first several missions when only two astronauts rode the shuttle. When the missions started flying larger crews, the commander and pilot ejection systems were removed because the rest of the crew sat in the middeck where necessary instrumentation prohibited the use of ejection systems. During launch and re-entry, there are very few scenarios where bailout systems would work due to the violent conditions surrounding the shuttle.
@crazybastard82 Well, yeah, they did do that. SR71 seats, if memory serves. But I don't recall instrumentation issues being the reason they pulled the system out. All I've seen cited as the reason for the removal was expense, and complexity. Correspondingly, if the original shuttle design had been used (rejected largely on expense grounds) we wouldn't have lost 2 shuttles, 2 crews, and 1 payload.
@TfiveR There is a bailout system in which the crew can ditch the shuttle via parachutes, but they laugh about it because it would essentially be suicide to try exiting the shuttle at such ridiculous speeds. Bailout can only be used in the condition in which the orbiter is in a somewhat controlled descent at low speeds. It is hypothetically possible during the first minutes of ascent, but the g's the crew experiences would prohibit their ability to move while trying to bailout.
@crazybastard82 From my understanding, the system in place calls for a separation from the booster + fuel units before any escape attempt can be made, which fits since they are likely the things that are going to A)make you NEED to bail B)make escape hazardous. Due to the design of the orbiter, in vertical flight, once separated, the shuttle is going to bleed speed quickly. That could put the G-loads well within the capability of an ejection seat (shuttle is designed for 4 g's).
@crazybastard82 Certainly, there is a case to be made that here, ejection seats MIGHT have saved the lives of the crew, since evidence is strong that members were conscious after the destruction of the launch vehicle, and the G's & speeds experienced by the crew area in free fall were well within the limits of an ejection seat of the day. I just don't think anybody expected the crew module to be able to survive such and event, and therefore considered the need moot.
@TfiveR Of course. There were too many instruments and structural necessaties located around the middeck to accommodate ejection systems for the rest of the crew. Designers and the astronauts, themselves, agreed that it wouldn't be "right" to provide only the commander and pilot with ejection seats.
@crazybastard82 Certainly, it would have been difficult, but likely not an impossible feat. Certainly no more of a challenge than building a space shuttle to begin with. But there is much to be said about design limitations influenced by NASA trying to accommodate military input, and funding constraints by Congress & the White House. More time, and the money to build the whole thing right, it seems like it could be accomplished. They had a smart group of guys there.
@TfiveR As far as bailing out during ascent, which, as you provided, requires the orbiter to be seperated from the SRBs and fuel tank, it is very impractical. The orbiter is not designed for complex flight manuevers and would likely flip into a radical tumble immediately upon release from the tank during ascent. But yes, as far as the Challenger accident went, designers probably weren't expecting the crew cabin to remain intact in the even of an explosion.
@crazybastard82 The process of separation of the tank + SRB's is at least less impractical than the loss of the shuttle and crew. Honestly, just saving the crew is still a MAJOR win. Sure, the shuttle was not meant to do anything complex, but in this case it doesn't have to. It just needs a reasonably stable attitude until conditions are right to hit the silk. After that, @#$% it. Dangerous place to be, and time to leave.
@TfiveR I agree that it's better to take the chance, but from the books I've read from shuttle astronauts, the crews were ultimately the ones who decided the attempt to seperate during ascent would be too impractical. They were convinced that the shuttle, which they termed as "no more than a falling brick with wings," would not be able to achieve the stable attitude needed for the 'chute bailout option to work.
@crazybastard82 Ugh. Youtube is pretty much @#$%ing the bed today. But, yeah, those are all real problems inherent to the design. Ultimately, wouldn't stop me from punching out and rolling the dice, if it were my butt in the seat.
@TfiveR Granted, you have a point that the initial design could have called for the ejection option for the entire crew. Ultimately, the engineers were full of too much pride and were confident that the shuttle design was "perfect." Arrogance is ugly, but it's horrible when it leads to the loss of life....
@crazybastard82 Fully agree, on both points. The amount of confidence they had in things they had under-evaluated was utterly appalling, and the reason why the disaster is covered as a case study in Engineering ethics courses.
In a side not, it occurs to me that the F111 had a pretty complex ejection system, but it managed to work pretty well. Maybe something they should have looked to, as it was still in service at the time.
@TfiveR I'm not sure about the redesigning being an issue. The newer orbiters were redesigned to save weight to allow more payload capacity, but not the SRBs/ET. In the event of Challenger, it was the SRB that failed, not the orbiter. And Columbia still had the original design, and was considered the safest (and heaviest) of the orbiters. I don't think anyone anticipated that the ET insulation would damage the orbiter's wing during launch, leading to breakup during re-entry.
@crazybastard82 The failure of the seals in the right booster was what got the ball rolling, but it was the damage inflicted on the ET that did the deed, as it were.
As far as Columbia, it is still hard for me to fathom that with the amount of money, lives and prestige on the line, that given the history of foam debris damage in the past (long documented) NOBODY thought to run more rigorous tests, like those run during the post mortem investigation. But, there it is.
@TfiveR Yeah, I think they were thinking that, since the foam debris and missing tiles happened so frequently with no major issues after decades of use, it wasn't an issue requiring redesign. Ultimately, it came down to just how much money they had to work with, and, despite their efforts to keep Johnny Public interested in space flight, they just weren't getting enough to build a new orbiter :-/
@crazybastard82 Well, that is the great injustice of it all; that the public largely only took notice of the the problems when we were doing something grandiose and eschewing safety protocols (Challenger), or when something glaringly obvious happens, like a 3 ft piece of heavy foam pegs a wing at 530 mph. They did detect something floating away from the shuttle while in orbit, but nobody went to check on what it was.
@crazybastard82 And that was the NASA mentality that killed Challenger and Columbia, as the O-ring failures were a long standing issue, but the higher up's figured "Well, nothing has gone wrong before, and the seals re-sealed themselves with debris. Should be fine." Assumption is the mother of all @#$%-ups.
@TfiveR Well said, my friend. It's sickening to know that the engineers were requesting that the O-ring issue be dealt with while the decision-makers ignored their pleas. The Challenger accident would have been avoided had they listened and acted upon those concerns. It's sad that it took the accident to get the brass to do something about it. But we, as humans, lack forsight; we don't put a crosswalk up until AFTER the little kid gets run over.
@crazybastard82 Those in authority complaining about the cost of doing something right always seem amenable to pay the costs of doing it over. There comes a point when it is wise to differ to those who know what they are talking about. Hydro-logical engineer says "The dam is going to break." The politician who sponsored the building of the dam says "Looks fine to me!" Simple math on who's more likely to be right.
Pretty much why the after report on NASA was so scathing.
@gamingeagle19 Also, I did clarify the "crew module", not the "orbiter" in the very beginning. Perhaps if you had clarified for yourself what that meant or double checked before commenting, we all could have avoided this.
@gamingeagle19 And since when is the ABC video comment section subject to APA rules? Maybe I did come off a little harsh about it, but Challenger was a really big deal for me, and I take it seriously. And that potion of the tragedy is as serious as it gets. It's important to have that perspective on what those guys must have gone through. I remember reading that and almost feeling physically sick.
Im in third grade, we have to dress up as a character, make a speech, and they have to be dead. my top three choices they had were taken, so my next choice was Christa McAuliffe. I Got chosen to be her then. the thing were doing is called the third grade wax museum. I Cant belive this story and what happened.
That is so horrible. To see your children die in front of your very eyes is the a parents' worst nightmare. I hate watching the parents at the moment it fails, see it and not understand and not want to understand that everyone died. So sad.
@TsugaruClan On the contrary you and the audience members ARE retarded. You're telling me that it took them minutes to understand what happened there? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that something went wrong here.
@abarai2007 Glad you're hear to tell us these things. If such a genius as yourself was there, I'm sure you could have saved the astronauts and the shuttle with your bare hands and your big, huge brain. Save us, Superman!
@TsugaruClan Not once did I say I was a genius and all that stuff you said. I wouldn't have saved them cause I can't and I doubt I would if I could. I only said that I would have noticed something was wrong when I saw that thing... you know? the explosion?
@abarai2007 and you can quite clearly see from the expressions on their faces that they knew that something was wrong. However, I suppose they should have just started screaming and crying right away instead of holding out hope that their loved ones had survived.
Secondly, the Challenger did NOT explode - it was broken apart after the fuel tanks were torn apart. Can't you get your facts straight?
@abarai2007 no shockwave, no explosion. Perhaps YOU'd like to read the Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Britannica entry about this event and note how they both state that the Challenger Shuttle "broke apart" rather than exploded?
@abarai2007: People like you amaze me. Your comment about one of America's greatest tragedies is that "audience members are retarded??" Were you alive when this happened? I hope you weren't, b/c I'd hate to think an adult is writing such bullshit. Everybody was confused and in shock. It's normal human nature to get shocked when seeing 7 people die in front of you. It wasn't retarded my friend.
Making fun of the Challenger victims' families shows a whole lot about your character.
It takes an eternity before the commentators even comments on the explosion. 7 people destroyed in milliseconds, and they react as if it's just a bit of fucking turbulence? Not a a single change in their tone of voice. Bizarre
My aunts teacher was one of the women in the shuttle :(
BlueNeedaStar 1 day ago
I feel so bad for the parents standing there and watching their children die :(
KinGzeDK 1 day ago
RIP they will ascend once again as angels.
UnifiedPerfection 2 days ago
@UnifiedPerfection No, they'll remain in our memory. Nothing more.
RooseTheMighty 2 days ago
I was in kindergarten and I remember my teacher crying...I didn't get. Now I watch this video 26 years later and its heartbreaking to see : /
TheHollyClarkShow 4 days ago
This is horrible..
shane10008 5 days ago
"They found no survivors." Yeah, no shit sherlock... did they watch the video?
seanstrnad 6 days ago
@seanstrnad The Shuttle cockpit returned to Earth, and there was evidence that the astronauts survived the explosion. It was conceivable that there may have been survivors.
alexandicity 6 days ago
@alexandicity stop with that nonsense conspiracy bs. It rumours trying to stir things up, with no hard evidence. YOu and other kids watch conspiracy videos on youtube and all of a sudden believes the goverment was behind it. dont trust everything you see or hear on the internet
maisler 5 days ago
@maisler hehehe spot on.
alexandicity 5 days ago
@alexandicity oh please, give it a rest.....what color is the sky in your happy little universe? Does it have polka-dots?
tmwalkerm 5 days ago
@tmwalkerm
1) This is YouTube. I wouldn't read too much into the comments here. Few of them are worth reading, much less worth worrying about.
2) it is possible that maiser and you misunderstood my comment. The cockpit did return to Earth, and it was largely intact. It was fished from the ocean and thoroughly documented. I fail to see how this is in any way controversial.
alexandicity 5 days ago
Challenger did not explode. It fragmented. The issue came from damage to the SRB Rocket caused by a faulty insulation ring meant to keep the fuel inside the rocket. When the ring let go, so did the rest of the ship. And it has been proven that these astronauts did not die initially. When the cabin was found in the water, all necessary emergency buttons, switches, etc, had been activated and/or actuated.
FreedomToTheDeath 1 week ago
Is this really a way to show respect to these 7 peoples who lost their lives? Let's please show a little more respect.
HistoryBuffMan11 1 week ago
haha only native Americans have the right to call America "my country"
fierokr3w 2 weeks ago
@fierokr3w not the case these days
chauncy817 2 weeks ago
@chauncy817 No matter how we look at it natives were here first (we cant discover land that already has residence)
fierokr3w 2 weeks ago
@fierokr3w Not true. In that case than England, Spain, France, Germany, Slovakia, Russia, china, Italy, all of Africa, Ireland, all of the middle east, all of the Americas. In fact, every country in the world EXCEPT the area around the Nile delta home to the earliest known civilization. And saying MY COUNTRY means its the country you are in. So dumbass how do you feel now?
ParanormalDemonology 1 week ago
@ParanormalDemonology Oh you know how to work Google :) congratulation!!!
fierokr3w 1 week ago
@fierokr3w Actually its called i paid attention in school and actually learned stuff instead of being a low life scum.
ParanormalDemonology 1 week ago
@ParanormalDemonology So now I'm a low life scum? What do you do for a living that makes you so great?
fierokr3w 1 week ago
@ParanormalDemonology I'm in the u.s military, what have you done for this country?
fierokr3w 1 week ago
@fierokr3w Thanks for the lower gas prices!
Michigan1985 1 week ago
@fierokr3w You can serve your country without being in the military. What a shitty thing to say to someone!
PsychLion 1 week ago
@PsychLion What a shitty thing to say to someone? My first comment was because of a man telling someone to in quote "get the hell out of my country", and this guy randomly commented me with a rude remark at the end. Read up before judging someone.
fierokr3w 1 week ago
this was the beginning of reaction videos. today we have two girls one cup
l1nkie 2 weeks ago
@vlad5538 eat shit you fuck tard
mdstewart1992 3 weeks ago
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Fuck USA !
vlad5548 3 weeks ago
THE APPLE DONE THE EXPLOXION!
Infamous477 3 weeks ago
@Infamous477 *explosion*
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HAHAHA look at macaullife's dad, what a jerk. he looks like he's dressed up to go watch a golf tournament, not a fucking shuttle launch. nice hat gramps, i guess the challenger really WAS a "hole in one".
plotchickens 4 weeks ago
If they "touched the face of God" why didn't they try to hold on and maybe God would have grabbed them and put them back down on Earth? Just sayin.
MrGrevy 4 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
lame joke. by the way, you're a total fag.
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 "total fag" lol umm ok. Interesting since I only bang women. Seems to me a humorless cunt like you who's obsessed with gayness might be a bit repressed? Lol what an idiot
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
More interesting is how you are a self obsessed douche bag who takes self mirror pics like a 14 yo girl HAHAHAHAHA
Like I said - total fag. LOL
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 You want to rub oil on my titties! It's ok just be honest about it is all I ask.
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
naw im good. Id rather rub my man chowder all over your mom's face HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 Haha you rednecks are entertaining! That gets me kind of hot...shouldn't you be lynching a negro right about now?
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
Rednecks? If you are referring to my picture, its a BURNING confederate flag, dumb ass. Where as if we refer to your picture we can discern you take it in the ass HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
And right about now, I should be impaling your mom with my Meat Wrench. LOL
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
hahaha - look at the troll getting burned HAHAHHAA
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 Wow you are a negro! Lol go hold a lantern on my front lawn lol shwoogie
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
Now I'm a "negro"? HAHAHA look at the troll without any material LOL
Well, I can tell you are some pale faced fuck, with a small dick and some serious insecurity issues.
Hey its cool, maybe taking more self pics in the bathroom mirror like a 14 yo girl will help you feel better and allow you to forget about your tiny penis LOL
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 Lol black man you are out of control. Shouldn't you be looting at the superdome lol black people can't swim!
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
Well Im not black, but with my dick in your mom's ass how is she supposed to know lol
Now go back to trolling on Star Trek, Howard Stern and Casey Anthony sites HAHAHAHAHAHA
Dude, you are THE biggest loser I've ever come across. It's hilarious!
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 shwoogies!
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
lol -thats all you got left? HAHAHAHA LOOOOOSSSSEEERRRRRR
Worst troll ever. You mad I found out how much of a loser you are, bruh? HAHAHAHAHAH
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 you like my synthol titties fucking admit it
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy fuck you asshole.
ElenaTheMonster 3 weeks ago
@ElenaTheMonster Lol a random cunt chimes in! How lovely. Shouldn't you be at a nunnery you gross hooker?
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy you're obviously just some stupid douchebag frat boy. so fuck you, piece of shit.
ElenaTheMonster 2 weeks ago
@MrGrevy Fuck you Nazi racist piece of shit. what is wrong with your crooked whites on youtube? you use racial issue on every fucking thing. I hope you drop dead and burn you bitch. this planet does no need you.
mrwhatever213 2 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 negro man, negro man, he does the things as a negro can,
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
youtube.com/watch?v=juaKc1sxSyM&feature=related
@1:37,2:30,9:57 &10:17 parachute said 'paramedic bailing out over the scene 12.5-28miles off shore'
1) PARACHUTE TOO BIG at that distance & WRONG TYPE for a controlled descent.
2) Parachute (excluding "paramedic" or cargo) can be seen clearly @12.5-28miles off shore? Yet Dan said @0:23 parachute is part of a "live picture from CAPE CANAVERAL,FL"
3) RESCUE HELICOPTERS NEVER WASTE TIME gaining altitude just to parachute in to water crash site.
shawso7 1 month ago
I think, 25 years later, it's time to give up on the conspiracy theories about why the Challenger exploded. I came here to read memories people had of this tragic day, and it was annoying as hell to have to wade through all this bullshit about "negligence" and "O-rings."
Why do we always have to figure out ways to blame the proverbial "enemy" when we should be using this as a way to come together in shared experience. Find a new tragedy to pick apart, please.
mlc2005 1 month ago
@mlc2005 Yeah! Stupid "truth"...why should we worry about it after an arbitrary number of years pass?
MrGrevy 4 weeks ago
@mlc2005 Your ignorance is astonishing and strangely entertaining. I guess we shouldn't learn from the past! Disgraceful turd
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
This is one of those American moments that is burned into the minds of everyone who was alive to witness it. I was in the 3rd grade in Virginia, in my school auditorium, watching it live with 500 other students and teachers. When this happened, we didn't understand what was going on, and the teachers (in tears) quickly turned it off and whisked us back to class. It was an extremely traumatic time, and it felt like the entire country was in shock. I'll never forget it.
mlc2005 1 month ago
I was 10yrs old and my classmates, teacher and I watched this. As fellow New Englanders we were very excited which segued to confusion and of course grief! We were given counseling to understand what we saw with our own eyes and felt in our hearts. I watched this today for the first time since and was taken right back to that confused, sadden little girl. The seven member crew will never be forgotten and are forever free to fly in the sky! May you all rest in peace.
socal1028 1 month ago
Life is hard to create, but easy to be destroy !
gogomyego 1 month ago
26 years ago... RIP to the brave crew, forever in our hearts, and forever in the galaxies
ElenaTheMonster 1 month ago
@ElenaTheMonster LOL yeah it requires "bravery" to die in a crash lol idiot.
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
No the "bravery" is training and putting your ass on top of a gigantic rocket knowing you can die at any moment.
Kinda like your mom. That bitch is brave for riding my dong knowing I can puncture her uterus at any moment LOL
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@lewisclark1800 haha you are a negro schwoogie
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
oh wow - somehow that was even less funny the 10th time you said it than the 1st HAHAHAHA
World's worst troll HAHA you arent even clever
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy Stop, being racist is just another way of telling the world you are a complete moron. Listen buddy it is 2012, there is one race the human race now what the fuck are you?
14ALL41OK 2 weeks ago
@14ALL41OK I am a decent, upstanding white man. I am a veteran, a christian and an AMERICAN! So get out of my country buddy!
MrGrevy 2 weeks ago
@MrGrevy right...because America consists only of caucasian christians. All of your previous comments prove you are anything but decent and upstanding. Your last comment (so get out of my country) is probably the most un-American thing you could say. Like the guy below me said, one race, the human race.
StreektlyMedeeseenal 2 weeks ago
i was in 12th grade homeroom class when i heard what happened how the world has changed since then
Dougy345 1 month ago
i was in 6th grade. :o( oh how aweful i remember.:o
blacksheepgirl 1 month ago
It was heartbreaking seeing the parents of Christa McAuliffe looking so proud as the shuttle headed towards space only for them to witness their daughter dying seconds later.
savannahnights1 1 month ago
@savannahnights1 I know
antony1397 1 month ago
@savannahnights1 Yeah a showboating goof is really something to be proud of.
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
iNcredible
macmilitant123 1 month ago
I couldn't imagine my elementary school teacher being killed in a way like that, and seeing it in person.
ziggyboi1995 1 month ago
aww it exploded on my birth day witch is in 9 days :/
kingretard100 1 month ago
@kingretard100 Too bad you weren't on the shuttle.
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
so sad
manofmusicx 1 month ago
Wow I never realized her parents was watching live. A Horrible just horrible event for our country.
waveali 1 month ago
It is believed that they did survive the explosion...and died when they hit the water, or after...when the crew compartment sank.
mheinrichs1974 1 month ago
@mheinrichs1974 From the accident report, they believe given the condition of the bodies and the condition of the crew module, the Astronauts survived the explosion, and were alive all the way down. The only good news is that they were likely not conscious due to the forces involved in the explosion and breakup of the vehicle.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR Where did you see this? I want to look at the accident report
BH061595 1 month ago
@TfiveR bullshit. Nobody could survive that. That's like saying that someone survived a car being blown up but then died later at the hospital. The entire shuttle completely disintegrated.
gamingeagle19 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 The destruction of the launch vehicle was caused by a failure of the O ring on one of the primary boosters. The detonation of the fuel tank did destroy the shuttle, but the nose section was blown free. This is why the found the crew compartment, rather than finding nothing but scrap. It's called reading; it's what one does before talking so as not to look like an idiot. F*cking dumbass. Try something as simple as a web search before you call bullshit. Kids today..
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR I'm 23 and I see no such thing. The entire thing completely blew up. Nothing got "blown free". I can see it plain as day. The ENTIRE shuttle is completely engulfed in flames and just a few seconds the only thing left is one of fuel pods that flies around before it too explodes. There is no way they were alive the whole time. They died instantly.
gamingeagle19 1 month ago
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TfiveR 1 month ago
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@gamingeagle19 S still a kid, son, you just don't know it. And if you watch more analysis of the video, they have clearly determined the object that is most likely the crew module. And it is known fact that crew members DID survive. Again, you would know if you were READING instead of TALKING. No chance you bothered to do that in the time it took you to respond, so clearly you must enjoy it. Take some time, and do your homework.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR besides it's only speculation that they were conscious. It's far more likely that they became unconscious after just a few seconds but nothing is 100% sure. But in any case if they didn't die immediately after the explosion they most likely fell unconscious just seconds later and died immediately after impact with the ocean. We were both only partly correct.
gamingeagle19 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 That sounds like a retraction to me. AGAIN, try this website called "GOOGLE" It is just FULL of helpful information. Nice attempt at a save though.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR you should have cited sources. You come on a video where all we can see is the entire shuttle engulfed in flames in an explosion and you just say "yeah they were alive the whole time".
this wasn't a debate or a scientific video. Most people including myself are not aware that the crew compartment came apart or could withstand that amount of stress. So don't come on here acting like I'm some idiot just because I'm not a scholar on the subject you tool.
gamingeagle19 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 THAT is the best you've got? I SAID it, because it IS what happened. The resources are at YOUR disposal. You just spouted your mouth off like a child. I watched the shuttle launch LIVE. And I watched and read everything that came out about it over the months of the investigation. And I covered the case study in college. Citing my sources? It is WELL KNOWN by people who actually give a damn. You are an idiot for claiming to know anything enough to give you the ability to comment.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 And I see you are prunning your comments as to not appear so much the fool.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR most people will assume that they died instantly because that's what it looks like. You come on here out of the blue saying no they survived with no substance to back it up and for what? What purpose does that even serve. It's not like you were correcting someone else in the comments or in the video. You came to "show off" your knowledge and then instead of just correcting me you get on a soapbox and declare me an idiot. Yeah, real classy.
gamingeagle19 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 I came here to watch a video and make a comment on something that mattered to me. And you came on here and basically called me bulshit without checking to see if I actually knew what I was talking about. Well, it turns out I wasn't so full of it, and you were wrong. So you picked a fight that you lost. And you are kinda coming off as an idiot since you can't seem to to stop talking. Let it go. Now you are making me feel bad for you. Look at the bright side; you learned something.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR I called your theory bullshit and since you didn't even bother posting any evidence it was exactly that. Just some guys opinion. And YOU started the fight in case you forgot. All I did was say I didn't believe you and that there was no way they could have survived that hence the "bullshit" part. You then proceeded to jump down my throat and insult me for not "knowing" what you knew. You're the definition of an elitist snob so excuse me for getting defensive.
gamingeagle19 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 That is an abuse of the word "Theory". And you haven't seemed to notice it is the "opinion" of a lot of other people, too. You never said "I believe", you said "Nobody could survive" as if it were fact. It was not. And define elitist snob? You basically thought your opinion was a fair leverage against something you hadn't read clearly anything on? Your belief in your own self seems to define that statement. So, yeah, you're defensive, because you were wrong.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR No it's fact that people caught in explosions of that magnitude do not survive. Ever. I was unaware that the crew compartment detached AND that it could withstand that. It's as simple as that. If you would have just said that from the beginning instead of being harsh we could have avoided all of this. I get defensive when people get aggressive. Plain and simple.
gamingeagle19 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 Not corect. Look up Col. Paul Stapp. 32 G is the upper limit for walking away. You can get up to 45 g and survive, but you won't be the same. The human body is quite robust. The crew module peaked at 20 G, and was well within it's design limits within 4 sec. Also, switches in the module were flipped that cannot be done by the explosion or water impact. Also, 3 of the PEAPS were activated. So you can be in an explosion and survive. Actually quite easy. This is all in the report.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR let me rephrase. I'm not talking about being in an explosion in a highly protected cabin. I'm talking just in general. If a person is in an explosion like that they are dead. Fire, force etc.
Like I said I was not at first aware of just how protected the cabin was AND that it broke off. It appears in the video that everything just disintegrated.
gamingeagle19 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 That everything just disintegrated was the most that many of us watching it had. Unfortunately, it was worse than we could have feared.
But again, you would be surprised what the human body can withstand. As long as you don't experience forces beyond those that Stapp helped pin down, you are just fine. And outside of an enclosed space, it's actually not that difficult. A bit of fire.. not good, but not THAT bad. Shrapnel.. well, that's a problem.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 Really what preserved the crew cabin was how robust it was, and the fact the vehicle was traveling vertically at speed. When it exploded from the bottom of the tank, the crew module rode the shock wave along with it's already significant velocity up and out of the blast. Realistically, not the best outcome, since nobody bothered to put ejection seats in the thing.
TfiveR 1 month ago
Ejection seats were, in fact, installed in the first several missions when only two astronauts rode the shuttle. When the missions started flying larger crews, the commander and pilot ejection systems were removed because the rest of the crew sat in the middeck where necessary instrumentation prohibited the use of ejection systems. During launch and re-entry, there are very few scenarios where bailout systems would work due to the violent conditions surrounding the shuttle.
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 Well, yeah, they did do that. SR71 seats, if memory serves. But I don't recall instrumentation issues being the reason they pulled the system out. All I've seen cited as the reason for the removal was expense, and complexity. Correspondingly, if the original shuttle design had been used (rejected largely on expense grounds) we wouldn't have lost 2 shuttles, 2 crews, and 1 payload.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR There is a bailout system in which the crew can ditch the shuttle via parachutes, but they laugh about it because it would essentially be suicide to try exiting the shuttle at such ridiculous speeds. Bailout can only be used in the condition in which the orbiter is in a somewhat controlled descent at low speeds. It is hypothetically possible during the first minutes of ascent, but the g's the crew experiences would prohibit their ability to move while trying to bailout.
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 From my understanding, the system in place calls for a separation from the booster + fuel units before any escape attempt can be made, which fits since they are likely the things that are going to A)make you NEED to bail B)make escape hazardous. Due to the design of the orbiter, in vertical flight, once separated, the shuttle is going to bleed speed quickly. That could put the G-loads well within the capability of an ejection seat (shuttle is designed for 4 g's).
TfiveR 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 Certainly, there is a case to be made that here, ejection seats MIGHT have saved the lives of the crew, since evidence is strong that members were conscious after the destruction of the launch vehicle, and the G's & speeds experienced by the crew area in free fall were well within the limits of an ejection seat of the day. I just don't think anybody expected the crew module to be able to survive such and event, and therefore considered the need moot.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR Of course. There were too many instruments and structural necessaties located around the middeck to accommodate ejection systems for the rest of the crew. Designers and the astronauts, themselves, agreed that it wouldn't be "right" to provide only the commander and pilot with ejection seats.
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 Certainly, it would have been difficult, but likely not an impossible feat. Certainly no more of a challenge than building a space shuttle to begin with. But there is much to be said about design limitations influenced by NASA trying to accommodate military input, and funding constraints by Congress & the White House. More time, and the money to build the whole thing right, it seems like it could be accomplished. They had a smart group of guys there.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR As far as bailing out during ascent, which, as you provided, requires the orbiter to be seperated from the SRBs and fuel tank, it is very impractical. The orbiter is not designed for complex flight manuevers and would likely flip into a radical tumble immediately upon release from the tank during ascent. But yes, as far as the Challenger accident went, designers probably weren't expecting the crew cabin to remain intact in the even of an explosion.
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 The process of separation of the tank + SRB's is at least less impractical than the loss of the shuttle and crew. Honestly, just saving the crew is still a MAJOR win. Sure, the shuttle was not meant to do anything complex, but in this case it doesn't have to. It just needs a reasonably stable attitude until conditions are right to hit the silk. After that, @#$% it. Dangerous place to be, and time to leave.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR I agree that it's better to take the chance, but from the books I've read from shuttle astronauts, the crews were ultimately the ones who decided the attempt to seperate during ascent would be too impractical. They were convinced that the shuttle, which they termed as "no more than a falling brick with wings," would not be able to achieve the stable attitude needed for the 'chute bailout option to work.
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 Ugh. Youtube is pretty much @#$%ing the bed today. But, yeah, those are all real problems inherent to the design. Ultimately, wouldn't stop me from punching out and rolling the dice, if it were my butt in the seat.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR I agree. It's already a s$%t sandwich at that point; might as well take the risk.
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@TfiveR Granted, you have a point that the initial design could have called for the ejection option for the entire crew. Ultimately, the engineers were full of too much pride and were confident that the shuttle design was "perfect." Arrogance is ugly, but it's horrible when it leads to the loss of life....
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 Fully agree, on both points. The amount of confidence they had in things they had under-evaluated was utterly appalling, and the reason why the disaster is covered as a case study in Engineering ethics courses.
In a side not, it occurs to me that the F111 had a pretty complex ejection system, but it managed to work pretty well. Maybe something they should have looked to, as it was still in service at the time.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR I'm not sure about the redesigning being an issue. The newer orbiters were redesigned to save weight to allow more payload capacity, but not the SRBs/ET. In the event of Challenger, it was the SRB that failed, not the orbiter. And Columbia still had the original design, and was considered the safest (and heaviest) of the orbiters. I don't think anyone anticipated that the ET insulation would damage the orbiter's wing during launch, leading to breakup during re-entry.
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 The failure of the seals in the right booster was what got the ball rolling, but it was the damage inflicted on the ET that did the deed, as it were.
As far as Columbia, it is still hard for me to fathom that with the amount of money, lives and prestige on the line, that given the history of foam debris damage in the past (long documented) NOBODY thought to run more rigorous tests, like those run during the post mortem investigation. But, there it is.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR Yeah, I think they were thinking that, since the foam debris and missing tiles happened so frequently with no major issues after decades of use, it wasn't an issue requiring redesign. Ultimately, it came down to just how much money they had to work with, and, despite their efforts to keep Johnny Public interested in space flight, they just weren't getting enough to build a new orbiter :-/
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 Well, that is the great injustice of it all; that the public largely only took notice of the the problems when we were doing something grandiose and eschewing safety protocols (Challenger), or when something glaringly obvious happens, like a 3 ft piece of heavy foam pegs a wing at 530 mph. They did detect something floating away from the shuttle while in orbit, but nobody went to check on what it was.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 And that was the NASA mentality that killed Challenger and Columbia, as the O-ring failures were a long standing issue, but the higher up's figured "Well, nothing has gone wrong before, and the seals re-sealed themselves with debris. Should be fine." Assumption is the mother of all @#$%-ups.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR Well said, my friend. It's sickening to know that the engineers were requesting that the O-ring issue be dealt with while the decision-makers ignored their pleas. The Challenger accident would have been avoided had they listened and acted upon those concerns. It's sad that it took the accident to get the brass to do something about it. But we, as humans, lack forsight; we don't put a crosswalk up until AFTER the little kid gets run over.
crazybastard82 1 month ago
@crazybastard82 Those in authority complaining about the cost of doing something right always seem amenable to pay the costs of doing it over. There comes a point when it is wise to differ to those who know what they are talking about. Hydro-logical engineer says "The dam is going to break." The politician who sponsored the building of the dam says "Looks fine to me!" Simple math on who's more likely to be right.
Pretty much why the after report on NASA was so scathing.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 Also, I did clarify the "crew module", not the "orbiter" in the very beginning. Perhaps if you had clarified for yourself what that meant or double checked before commenting, we all could have avoided this.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@gamingeagle19 And since when is the ABC video comment section subject to APA rules? Maybe I did come off a little harsh about it, but Challenger was a really big deal for me, and I take it seriously. And that potion of the tragedy is as serious as it gets. It's important to have that perspective on what those guys must have gone through. I remember reading that and almost feeling physically sick.
TfiveR 1 month ago
@TfiveR Good nobody deserves to die like that i only hope they werent aware. Its not much but something like that is a small comfort.
antony1397 1 month ago
@TfiveR They should have been conscious, It might have been fun to pretend they were flying or something who knows?
MrGrevy 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
This is the same douche obsessed with the Casey Anthony trial HAHAHA
We all know you are some loser sitting at home watching this shit like a housewife. Now go take more self pics, fag LOL
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
@MrGrevy
snore...troll got trolled LOL hahahahahaah
lewisclark1800 3 weeks ago
Only 7 are Dead. BIG DEAL?? Shitty Moment.
TheCelebrityOnline 1 month ago
@TheCelebrityOnline Wow. Don't talk shit of the dead you putrid inconsiderate fucking cunt.
scooter12e 1 month ago
Im in third grade, we have to dress up as a character, make a speech, and they have to be dead. my top three choices they had were taken, so my next choice was Christa McAuliffe. I Got chosen to be her then. the thing were doing is called the third grade wax museum. I Cant belive this story and what happened.
CarolynLuvzYooh 1 month ago
only in america!
aaahhhhaaaahhhh 1 month ago
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What movies did the Challenger astronauts rent before the flight? -Scream and Hope Floats
amishmike1 1 month ago
@amishmike1 burn in hell piece of shit
BoyanCRACK 1 month ago
@BoyanCRACK Lick my crack Mr. Crack.
DzRMerc 1 month ago
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How did they know Christa M. had dandruff? A: They found her head and shoulders
amishmike1 1 month ago
That is so horrible. To see your children die in front of your very eyes is the a parents' worst nightmare. I hate watching the parents at the moment it fails, see it and not understand and not want to understand that everyone died. So sad.
crazygeek4296 1 month ago
@crazygeek4296 Heartbreaking. You could see them reacting for a second, and then perhaps thinking 'Maybe that's supposed to happen...'
MildlyAnnoyedAHM 1 month ago
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It's sad because the black guy probably died first.
552Industries 1 month ago
@552Industries XD that messed up
anonymoussoldier368 1 month ago
@552Industries You're bad XD
Eyeglompyou 1 month ago
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552Industries 1 month ago
@daratnhan those might be their dead bodies! good look, but i honestly doubt they survived that fall!
monkeydudegirl 1 month ago
MALFUNCTION? THE WHOLE SHIT FUCK'D UP!
RSfandude 1 month ago
pause at 4:01 and you can see 7 smoke rays :O is that a message?
daratnhan 1 month ago
THE APPLE OF EVIL WAS THE CAUSE! HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO THIM!
gaylordNL 1 month ago
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gaylordNL 1 month ago
one week of mourning didn't seem like it was enough
hitcan79 2 months ago
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No top comments?! Here's my chance! BOOBIES!!!
Trek2255 2 months ago
@Trek2255 Did you notice no comments have the "Thumps Up/Down" choice? XD NO TOP COMMENT FOR ANYONE~
crystallineSkiies 2 months ago
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Every time a Jew get in one of those shuttles, the shuttle blows up.
khonfosh 2 months ago
@khonfosh YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH JEWS MOTHER FUCKER!
antidiz 2 months ago
@khonfosh I automatically hate you.
crystallineSkiies 2 months ago
this was the saddest day of the 1980s
Dougy345 2 months ago
This is so horrible and sad
KaydeyRai 2 months ago
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abarai2007 2 months ago
@abarai2007 No, the audience members are not. But you sure sound like you have some mental deficiencies.
TsugaruClan 2 months ago
@TsugaruClan On the contrary you and the audience members ARE retarded. You're telling me that it took them minutes to understand what happened there? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that something went wrong here.
abarai2007 2 months ago
@abarai2007 Glad you're hear to tell us these things. If such a genius as yourself was there, I'm sure you could have saved the astronauts and the shuttle with your bare hands and your big, huge brain. Save us, Superman!
TsugaruClan 2 months ago
@TsugaruClan Not once did I say I was a genius and all that stuff you said. I wouldn't have saved them cause I can't and I doubt I would if I could. I only said that I would have noticed something was wrong when I saw that thing... you know? the explosion?
abarai2007 2 months ago
@abarai2007 and you can quite clearly see from the expressions on their faces that they knew that something was wrong. However, I suppose they should have just started screaming and crying right away instead of holding out hope that their loved ones had survived.
Secondly, the Challenger did NOT explode - it was broken apart after the fuel tanks were torn apart. Can't you get your facts straight?
richard20bris 2 months ago
@richard20bris look up the definition of an explosion good sir.
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richard20bris 2 months ago
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@abarai2007 no shockwave, no explosion. Perhaps YOU'd like to read the Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Britannica entry about this event and note how they both state that the Challenger Shuttle "broke apart" rather than exploded?
richard20bris 2 months ago
@abarai2007: People like you amaze me. Your comment about one of America's greatest tragedies is that "audience members are retarded??" Were you alive when this happened? I hope you weren't, b/c I'd hate to think an adult is writing such bullshit. Everybody was confused and in shock. It's normal human nature to get shocked when seeing 7 people die in front of you. It wasn't retarded my friend.
Making fun of the Challenger victims' families shows a whole lot about your character.
mlc2005 1 month ago
@mlc2005 I honestly couldn't care, just like you prob don't care about how you and other americans funded/are funding illegal wars overseas.
abarai2007 1 month ago
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It takes an eternity before the commentators even comments on the explosion. 7 people destroyed in milliseconds, and they react as if it's just a bit of fucking turbulence? Not a a single change in their tone of voice. Bizarre
GOATAli 2 months ago
As far as I'm concerned, those NASA administrators got away with seven counts of criminally negligent homicide.
KOHF34 2 months ago