@ricktbdgc The idea here is, at some point it may become relevant to use compressed air generated from cheap source to supplement traditional fuel sources for motorised vehicles. As you said, in northern India, tricycle riders taxi people around throughout the day as depicted briefly in the video. They are called rickshaw wallahs. Such people can benefit if they can collect compressed air through a simple mechanism as they ride tricycle anyway.
why the impact? wouldn't that require re-using an impact mechanism such as a brick.. you would have to carry them back to the top to re-send them down the channel, that requires energy in itself.... why not create a collection dish of water, and the weight to the water compresses the air, when the dish is full dump the water and start over. no impact.
@ricktbdgc I accept. Water load can be good source down stream. At the same time, upstream (behind the dam) storage can also be utilised. This does open up many possibilities. Thanks :-)
@anthony9thompson Response 2 of 2: The devices we are suggesting is meant to take this into account. If you carefully assess, any tall tree like coconut, coniferous trees, etc. are exposed to 5-25 KW of wind energy everyday. This is quite good enough to harvest equivalent in compressed air form.
@anthony9thompson Response 1 of 2: If you look carefully & compare with sailing ships, sail takes wind ‘action’ whereas the boat is on ‘reaction’ side. However, the sails don’t swing all the time & does only while orienting to set direction. In the case of natural fixed trees, one has to keep these in mind & arrive at a way to mechanically handle reaction to random swing of the branches.
@anthony9thompson I haven't specifically studied this as the focus is more towards container based compressed air. I think I have come across an article or proposal to store compressed air in old mines somewhere. Shall let you know if I dig the article.
We are open to discussion. Our contacts are at the end of the Video. Please do email so that we can bring out a productive clarification! Thanks again
PS:- We can bring this up in private discussion beyond this comment area.
Flow is open (by design we restrict it). So, one has to distinguish between translation (say, 'a') & transformation (say, 'b'). Indeed, you correctly mention that compression (say, 'c') efficiency is 50% (actually it may be even less); what happens to remaining 50%?
You have mentioned 2 forms of energy. 1- Flow form & 2- Impact form. In Impact form, one expends energy to derive power to do certain work. This is energy translation. Typically this happens in a 'container'. In Flow form, it is one level above wherein one uses flow to derive power. This is energy transformation.
Thank you very much for your good comments about graphics & creative flow. Indeed, we get help from our graphics expert Laxman (Expert in all kinds from 2DSMax to Photoshop & beyond; plus translation of idea. The narration was done by PVG Menon of Vann Consulting, Bangalore, India).
Thank you very much for your good comments about graphics & creative flow. Indeed, we get help from our graphics expert Laxman (Expert in all kinds from 2DSMax to Photoshop & beyond; plus translation of idea. The narration was done by PVG Menon of Vann Consulting, Bangalore, India).
@vishconcepts Clearly these are beautiful graphics and a creative idea, but it seems to lack some basic details. For example, isn't the energy within the flowing water continuous? How do you get "Impact" out of continuously flowing water. Certainly, "impact" is the basis of internal combustion engines, but I don't see that with a waterfall. Secondly, with compressed air, you can only get about 50% of the stored energy back. Well there are more questions, but I will leave it there.
@JohnCBriggs Yes. Our idea is to convert energy into storable form to be
used later or as needed.
The approach is inspired from a work that is used extensively in Civil Enginnering. We have studied theoretical aspects and many possible applications.
@ricktbdgc The idea here is, at some point it may become relevant to use compressed air generated from cheap source to supplement traditional fuel sources for motorised vehicles. As you said, in northern India, tricycle riders taxi people around throughout the day as depicted briefly in the video. They are called rickshaw wallahs. Such people can benefit if they can collect compressed air through a simple mechanism as they ride tricycle anyway.
vishconcepts 5 months ago
why the impact? wouldn't that require re-using an impact mechanism such as a brick.. you would have to carry them back to the top to re-send them down the channel, that requires energy in itself.... why not create a collection dish of water, and the weight to the water compresses the air, when the dish is full dump the water and start over. no impact.
ricktbdgc 5 months ago
@ricktbdgc I accept. Water load can be good source down stream. At the same time, upstream (behind the dam) storage can also be utilised. This does open up many possibilities. Thanks :-)
vishconcepts 5 months ago
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@anthony9thompson Response 2 of 2: The devices we are suggesting is meant to take this into account. If you carefully assess, any tall tree like coconut, coniferous trees, etc. are exposed to 5-25 KW of wind energy everyday. This is quite good enough to harvest equivalent in compressed air form.
vishconcepts 1 year ago
@anthony9thompson Response 1 of 2: If you look carefully & compare with sailing ships, sail takes wind ‘action’ whereas the boat is on ‘reaction’ side. However, the sails don’t swing all the time & does only while orienting to set direction. In the case of natural fixed trees, one has to keep these in mind & arrive at a way to mechanically handle reaction to random swing of the branches.
vishconcepts 1 year ago
I have often thought that old mines in suitable rock could be converted into store compressed air
anthony9thompson 1 year ago
@anthony9thompson I haven't specifically studied this as the focus is more towards container based compressed air. I think I have come across an article or proposal to store compressed air in old mines somewhere. Shall let you know if I dig the article.
vishconcepts 1 year ago
@anthony9thompson I hav inadvertantly deleted your 2nd question. It was about how to harvest compressed air from natural tree swaying due to wind.
vishconcepts 1 year ago
Response 4 of 4:
We are open to discussion. Our contacts are at the end of the Video. Please do email so that we can bring out a productive clarification! Thanks again
PS:- We can bring this up in private discussion beyond this comment area.
-Vish
vishconcepts 1 year ago
Response 3of 4:
Flow is open (by design we restrict it). So, one has to distinguish between translation (say, 'a') & transformation (say, 'b'). Indeed, you correctly mention that compression (say, 'c') efficiency is 50% (actually it may be even less); what happens to remaining 50%?
vishconcepts 1 year ago
Response of 2 of 4:
You have mentioned 2 forms of energy. 1- Flow form & 2- Impact form. In Impact form, one expends energy to derive power to do certain work. This is energy translation. Typically this happens in a 'container'. In Flow form, it is one level above wherein one uses flow to derive power. This is energy transformation.
vishconcepts 1 year ago
Response 1 of 4:
Thank you very much for your good comments about graphics & creative flow. Indeed, we get help from our graphics expert Laxman (Expert in all kinds from 2DSMax to Photoshop & beyond; plus translation of idea. The narration was done by PVG Menon of Vann Consulting, Bangalore, India).
We do follow your thoughts
vishconcepts 1 year ago
Response 1 of 4:
Thank you very much for your good comments about graphics & creative flow. Indeed, we get help from our graphics expert Laxman (Expert in all kinds from 2DSMax to Photoshop & beyond; plus translation of idea. The narration was done by PVG Menon of Vann Consulting, Bangalore, India).
We do follow your thoughts...
vishconcepts 1 year ago
@vishconcepts Clearly these are beautiful graphics and a creative idea, but it seems to lack some basic details. For example, isn't the energy within the flowing water continuous? How do you get "Impact" out of continuously flowing water. Certainly, "impact" is the basis of internal combustion engines, but I don't see that with a waterfall. Secondly, with compressed air, you can only get about 50% of the stored energy back. Well there are more questions, but I will leave it there.
JohnCBriggs 1 year ago
Are you serious about this?
JohnCBriggs 1 year ago
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inactionforever 1 year ago
@JohnCBriggs Yes. Our idea is to convert energy into storable form to be
used later or as needed.
The approach is inspired from a work that is used extensively in Civil Enginnering. We have studied theoretical aspects and many possible applications.
We are hoping to take the idea further.
We are curious as to your brief question.
-Vish
vishconcepts 1 year ago