a parte che la tonalità è alterata.....comunque rimane una grandissima cantante che rende solo in cd.....in scena era un po' gatta di marmo.....UN PO' TANTO!!!!
Anche qui la Tebaldi da prova di somma capacità interpretativa. Un ruolo quello della Regina Turandot caratterialmente non a lei usuale, e nel 64 anno in cui la Tebaldi ritornò a calcare le scene, dopo una pausa di un anno,con una vocalità più matura, meno duttile e facile negli acuti, ma più intensa e drammatica.Inoltre la versione è mezzo tono più alta,quindi più difficile ; forse una scelta della stessa Tebaldi....domando a chi è a conoscenza del motivo di darne una spiegazione.Grazie!
listen to the highest notes at 3.16 and at 5.01 !! This recording was the first opera cd i ever owned. it is astonishly beautiful to my inexpert ears, with a distinct "chinese" sound to the voice, a power and youth that turandot often doesnt have.my favourite "live" turandot is eva marton who was only 39 and 43 when she sang it in vienna 1983 and in new york in 87. martons youth shows and her acting -flirtatious, coy, beautiful-with domingo's virile calaf in 87 is unique. thank u!
It is ugly I will say for one so historically important opera singer but!; first never learned how to sing technically correct. 2nd always be in her singing felt some tension and weak support for the diaphragm. 3rd often sounded low and without the support of the diaphragm. 4th God gave her a beautiful material that it never fully brushed.
I can't believe this is Renata Tebaldi, she is a spinto soprano, she can't sing Turandot, the opera for dramatic soprano. Who's this voice ? This song is wonderful, one of the best aria In Questa Renggia I listen.
sin embargo, y ciertamente, Turandot no es un angel, si no una princesa que al menos en este aria, es todavia una despiadada, fria e imponente princesa. Es interesante y resulta una experiencia escucharla asi, pero a fin de cuentas... no es Turandot !!
@MrYankeeTex : COMMENTO PENOSAMENTE RIDICOLO. SI INCHINI DI FRONTE ALLA DIVINA E MERAVIGLIOSA RENATA TEBALDI. RENATA TEBALDI = VOCE D'ANGELO E MERAVIGLIA DELLA LIRICA.
@31122051 She sounds like she's screaming hysterically. MAYBE it's because the tape is played a little too fast and it's higher than it should be. But this is NOT why we love her (and I DO love her). Turandot is a special role. Very few who sing it well are good at other things.
@GibasBoyfriend - Nope, she's not "screaming", although a few of the notes might seem "off-the-mark", in the total, tonal sense ... but only, just barely. The fine heart and technique are THERE ... although some might prefer Maria Callas.
non accetto le critiche mosse a questa incisione...oggi si tollerano lirici leggeri che cantano Norma e si critica questa incisione splendida...ma statevi zitti ipocriti...
This WAS recorded in 1964, and Tebaldi sounds pretty good here. That said, this was emphatically not a role she could have ever sustained on stage. She had a very limited top, and while this is a well sung version, she's pushing her top to the very limits of its endurance. But thanks for posting this. It deserves to be heard.
No pienso que esta estupenda grabación sea de 1964. Suena muy fresca y jóven y sin esfuerzo. Podría ser de 1954 . Maybe this recording dates from 1954 and not 10 years late. By yhe mid sixties her usual problems with the highest register became more serious... She sounds as a wonderful and young Tebaldi,,,
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Povera Tebaldi cosi brava , cosa diavolo le e' saltato in mente di registrare "In questa reggia." E' come far fare una discesa libera ad un fondista. Potete dire quello che volete ma non sprechiamo commenti , io amo Turandot e anche la Tebaldi ma questa registrazione dovrebbe essere tolta dal pubblico ascolto. Ha ragione chi dice che sembra una Liu che vuole scimmiottare Turandot. Rispettiamo la grande Renata ed evitiamo di riproporre questa incisione
Che dire? Sarebbe ingiusto muover critiche alla resa vocale, che è di altissimo livello. A essere sinceri, quello che incresce quando si ascolta la Tebaldi è la monotonia dell'accento: sempre solenne, sempre nobile, spesso....noiosetto! Ma certamente qui c'è una bella resa vocale!
dopo aver spopolato nel ruolo di Liù (eccelsa) Rentona Nazionale si è potuta pure togliere lo sfizio di incidere la parte di Turandot... in un momento in cui se lo poteva permettere. Cmq peccato che nessuno abbia mai pensato di allestire l'opera con Callas-Turandot e Liù-Tebaldi sarebbe stao da sbrodolarsi nelle mutande!!!
Not bad... it kinda gives Turandot this warmer quality... which would make the final transformation more believable. But I think the role was outside the reaches of Renata... Gioconda was as far as she could go, in my concern. That her voice was large didn't really mean that it was heavy enough for these role. Still, it isn't bad, it's pretty good, and much, MUCH worse singer have essayed the role. Kudos, Signora Tebaldi.
La Tebaldi presta a Turandot un timbro che anche da solo attribuisce al personaggio maestosa regalità: la principessa si incarna nella bocca di Renata dotata algida nobiltà. Perfetti tutti i registri vocali: le note acute in particolare sono taglienti e penetranti come punte di ghiaccio ed al contempo la voce nel suo complesso è corposa e potente in ogni emissione senza perdere armoniche e smalti. E' una Turandot che ben regge il confronto vocale con un Calaf che interloquisce con lei.
La Tebaldi presta a Turandot un tibro che anche da solo attribuisce al personaggio maestosa regalità: la principessa si incarna nella bocca di Renata dotata algida nobiltà. Perfetti tutti i registri vocali: le note acute in particolare sono taglienti e penetranti come punte di ghiaccio ed al contempo la voce nel suo complesso è corposa e potente in ogni emissione senza perdere armoniche e smalti. E' una Turandot che ben regge il confronto vocale con Calaf che interloquisce con lei.
Is it me or is the key here higher than the original? maybe it was distortion with the recording. I don't see why a singer would want to make this aria harder than it already is..
This is most decidedly in a higher key than written - just find other renditions of this aria on YouTube (there are many) to demonstrate that clearly to yourself. I wonder if the error is mechanical, something to do with the recording - that seems likely to me; Tebaldi, whose voice I love dearly, had a short top, and seems to me that the last thing she'd have wanted to do would be to push this very difficult aria, already out of her comfort zone, even higher.
No, it's higher. Most definitely higher. Listen to some of the other performances here on YouTube -- you should hear the difference immediately from the very first note.
This was very nice. Not ideally suited to her voice capabilities, but in sounds like the engineers tried on purpose to make her sound young and vulnerable.
I would loved to have heard her sing the final scene of the opera. I'm sure she would have been ravishing in the moment Turandot sings "Il suo nome, e amor".
da paura...!!!!!!!!!!!!! Una immensa Tebaldi e si capiscono benissimo tutte le parole, sono rimasto di stucco.., ma perché si parla sempre solo9 della callas? Questa signora tebaldi è una immensa.
Incredibile davvero. Anche i passaggi più scabrosi non intaccano minimamente la morbidezza unica della voce della Tebaldi. Penso che negli anni migliori avrebbe potuto veramente portarla in scena (tra l'altro era alta e bella, come la Principessa dovrebbe e spesso non è).
La recente moda di ridimensionare certi grandissimi non ha molto senso. Questa è una delle prove che dimostrano che avrebbe molto più senso il contrario: riscoprire le cose meno conosciute e ammirare.
La Tebaldi presta a Turandot un tibro che anche da solo attribuisce al personaggio maestosa regalità: la principessa si incarna nella bocca di Renata dotata algida nobiltà. Perfetti tutti i registri vocali: le note acute in particolare sono taglienti e penetranti come punte di ghiaccio ed al contempo la voce nel suo complesso è corposa e potente in ogni emissione senza perdere armoniche e smalti. E' una Turandot che ben regge il confronto vocale con Calaf che interloquisce con lei.
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The speed up of the tape must be for much in the better opinion I have here than on the CD recording which left me the memory of live skinned cat screams and shouting herself hoarse in the extreme tessitura. Only in the central register her voice finds back her legendary smoothness and velvet. Obviously, Turandot is not for her delicate instrument, even not "In questa reggia".
Tebaldi is magnificent, but I agree this is not for her and even when she was younger she still wouldnt have had the high notes for this. i dont know if i would call her instrument delicate though. quite powerful actually jsut not fiery.
Using "delicate", I didn't mean "fragile" but rather that the subtle beauty of her tone was put into a severe trial by the murdurous intervals and fury of Turandot.
Hay algo que me inquieta saber acerca de esta maravillosa y por demás, curiosa interpretación de la Gran TEbaldi en Turandot. Si es la tonalidad original con la cual se grabó en estudio o es una alteración.
Es mi viejo reproductor de cassettes que algunas cintas antiguas las acelera, suena casi un semitono más alto que el original. No pongo la del CD porque deja huella digital y la Decca me puede cerrar lacuenta
Muchas gracias por responderme. De cualquier manera, sea en este tono o en el original del aria, la interpretación de Tebaldi es a mi juicio, otro mundo, como el poveri fiori de Magda Olivero o la Casta Diva de Callas. La versión de Callas en Turandot es una de las que más me hace vibrar. Ahora Tebaldi, es todo un descubrimiento.
La Tebaldi presta a Turandot un tibro che anche da solo attribuisce al personaggio maestosa regalità: la principessa si incarna nella bocca di Renata dotata algida nobiltà. Perfetti tutti i registri vocali: le note acute in particolare sono taglienti e penetranti come punte di ghiaccio ed al contempo la voce nel suo complesso è corposa e potente in ogni emissione senza perdere armoniche e smalti. E' una Turandot che ben regge il confronto vocale con un ipotetico Calaf che interloquisce con lei.
this was recorded in 1964 with the philidelphia phil.this particular clip somehow is running a littlefast.the original is far superior for richness and deph of beauty of voice. also " QUEL GRIDO " was never sung more clearly on a B natural than here.
Renata Tebaldi con la sua voce stratosferica poteva tutto e anche "In questa reggia" è straordinaria. Chiaramente si sente la venatura lirica che discorda col personaggio di Turandot, personaggio che comunque Renata avrebbe potuto portare in scena benissimo, ma non credo fosse adatto alla sua indole.
In 1965 Nilsson,Björling and Tebaldi recorded Turandot under Leinsdorf which is an excellent recording second only to Sutherland and Pavarotti's recording under Mehta. It would serve justice to listen to Tebaldi as Liu and listen to Nilsson as Turandot. Unfortunately Renata is sailing all over the top here. Ricciarelli and Domingo are another excellent choice.
Wrong.Leinsdorf's "Turandot" was recorded in 1959 and Tebaldi recorded Liù under Erede in 1955 too.
Tebaldi's reggia was from her first concert (1964) after her year off (1963).By 1967 she could have recorded it better, she was in great shape by 1967.
yes i just heard the Domingo-Ricciarelli performance, and their great "In questa reggia". While not quite as good as Nilsson and Corelli (in these two roles, I doubt ANYONE can beat them), Domingo and Ricciarelli are certainly one of the best duos for Calàf-Turandot I've ever heard!
Wrong about what and whom? Did you read my comment as written? Are you saying Tebaldi's top sounds thin? I'll assume so since this is her recording. A bit of confusion maybe?
That's according to your opinion. Who said Nilsson sang Turandot so well? Try 98 % of opera fans, that's who. Ask anyone here, and you'll get the same reply. I like Cigna's rendition, and also Eva Turner- but Nilsson was in a class all her own. It's the difference to between 2 huge voices, one with endless high notes with a laser quality, and complete control and clean, the other huge and exciting in less controlled manner. I happen to like Cigna's Aida - huge and fun.
I'll say it again, nobody loves Tebaldi more than me :)), but to say she's better than Nilsson is crazy, it's absolutely unacceptable to me. Do we say Nilsson was better than Tebaldi singing "donde lieta usci" from Boheme? No, of course not.
I've heard thing like Nikolai Gedda is better Calaf then Franco Corelli.
First, no matter how beautifly he sings in studio, Gedda never sang the whole role and would never sung it.
Some people listen to opera without knowing caracters, types of voice suitable and that's OK, but please stop being an opera critiques, for that one needs more then a love for music.
I also love Tebaldi, in fact she is my favorite voice(better voice then Callas) and she sings in Questa reggia beautifly but unfortunatly not in caracter(she was lirico-spito, role requires Dramatic voice)
Were you replying to me? I received your comment in my account. I completely agree with your comment above. It's important for us to remember that if a singer performs one aria on recording, that doesn't mean they would sing the role in full length. Great comment.
This recording, along with other arias from Nabucco, Sonnambula, Norma, Puritani, and Samson, etc. was suppressed from the original release of Renata Tebaldi: A Tebaldi Festival. The great soprano wanted them released upon her 75th birthday (which they were). Maestro Tullio Serafin advised her never to attempt Norma; she ventures into Casta Diva/Ah, bello in this set, proving him to be right. She is less successful in the other bel canto arias.
Maestro Serafin wanted her absolutely to sing Norma, and tryed hard to convince her, even proposed to take a 6 months together to learn and study the role, but Tebaldi refused. Revise your sources , it's the opposite.
That is what Lanfranco Rasponi reports in his book "The Last Prima Donnas" (London: Victor Gollancz Ltd, 1982). Although he represented Madame Tebaldi for a while, his information is incorrect. Alas, he cannot revise his sources, as he died in 1983.
wow. what a feast of tone and armonici. brava Renata. the recording studio was too small for the bigness of your voice but it gives some idea of the early incredible beauty of this great voice. She is simply the best always.
It says 1964 at the beginning of the video. I don't think she sang it early. She had been singing Liu before this. This is shortly before she added Gioconda. It is a little fast, actually. Perhaps she was comfortable taking it a little faster. The top is big and there, but she is working up there. The mikes are fairly close to her, making the recording have a bit of a tang, especially up higher.
What stage in her career? It is obvious from the sound that she performed this aria early in her career. Here she has a top which, late in her career, she did not. Additionally, she used chest notes late in her career which she does not do here. When was this recorded?
I know people love Tebaldi, but I think at this stage in her career, this aria makes her sound a little frayed and overparted. The top is mostly there, but it sounds white and pinched to my ears, not as secure as the role demands.
I love and worship Tebaldi at the altar of opera, but this is completely wrong for her voice. Yes Beautenor, she does sound a bit frayed and overworked up top. This is sort of the equivalent of Callas singing the Willow song and Ave Maria from Otello. Did she record that?
I'd like to know why my comment, and BeauTenor's were marked as spam people. There was nothing offensive or unkind in either one. Look at the first 5 words of mine! His was completely objective, and not at all insulting. Alot of people here cannot seem to handle any criticism or honesty here.
Mai sentito una Tebaldi così intensa, così possente, gli acuti così intonate e la sempre sua grande è squillante voce; meglio que la Nilsson in quest'aria; un canto più italiano come debe essere quello di Turandot. Meraviglisa Renata
a parte che la tonalità è alterata.....comunque rimane una grandissima cantante che rende solo in cd.....in scena era un po' gatta di marmo.....UN PO' TANTO!!!!
Alethedancer 5 days ago
Anche qui la Tebaldi da prova di somma capacità interpretativa. Un ruolo quello della Regina Turandot caratterialmente non a lei usuale, e nel 64 anno in cui la Tebaldi ritornò a calcare le scene, dopo una pausa di un anno,con una vocalità più matura, meno duttile e facile negli acuti, ma più intensa e drammatica.Inoltre la versione è mezzo tono più alta,quindi più difficile ; forse una scelta della stessa Tebaldi....domando a chi è a conoscenza del motivo di darne una spiegazione.Grazie!
passionebelcanto 1 week ago
Una principessa veramente di gelo
Darjaius 3 weeks ago
wow, che sorpresa la Tebaldi in Turandot! Bella e brava, ma continuo a preferire una come la Nilsson, più adatta secondo me
giek85 1 month ago
La Tebaldi ha un aspetto che è comune anche alla Callas:
la voce è talmente magica e bella che domina qualsiasi incisione,anche
quando la voce non è molto adatta al ruolo...
Poetapersempre 4 months ago
this doesn't sound like Renata...
giorich 6 months ago
listen to the highest notes at 3.16 and at 5.01 !! This recording was the first opera cd i ever owned. it is astonishly beautiful to my inexpert ears, with a distinct "chinese" sound to the voice, a power and youth that turandot often doesnt have.my favourite "live" turandot is eva marton who was only 39 and 43 when she sang it in vienna 1983 and in new york in 87. martons youth shows and her acting -flirtatious, coy, beautiful-with domingo's virile calaf in 87 is unique. thank u!
stephenhkent 1 year ago
It is ugly I will say for one so historically important opera singer but!; first never learned how to sing technically correct. 2nd always be in her singing felt some tension and weak support for the diaphragm. 3rd often sounded low and without the support of the diaphragm. 4th God gave her a beautiful material that it never fully brushed.
supermen26zg 1 year ago
I can't believe this is Renata Tebaldi, she is a spinto soprano, she can't sing Turandot, the opera for dramatic soprano. Who's this voice ? This song is wonderful, one of the best aria In Questa Renggia I listen.
conghoan1998 1 year ago
Es hermoso, e incluso impresionante...
sin embargo, y ciertamente, Turandot no es un angel, si no una princesa que al menos en este aria, es todavia una despiadada, fria e imponente princesa. Es interesante y resulta una experiencia escucharla asi, pero a fin de cuentas... no es Turandot !!
Alleeexoscm 1 year ago
this is horrible.
MrYankeeTex 1 year ago
@MrYankeeTex : COMMENTO PENOSAMENTE RIDICOLO. SI INCHINI DI FRONTE ALLA DIVINA E MERAVIGLIOSA RENATA TEBALDI. RENATA TEBALDI = VOCE D'ANGELO E MERAVIGLIA DELLA LIRICA.
31122051 1 year ago 6
@31122051 She sounds like she's screaming hysterically. MAYBE it's because the tape is played a little too fast and it's higher than it should be. But this is NOT why we love her (and I DO love her). Turandot is a special role. Very few who sing it well are good at other things.
GibasBoyfriend 1 year ago
@GibasBoyfriend - Nope, she's not "screaming", although a few of the notes might seem "off-the-mark", in the total, tonal sense ... but only, just barely. The fine heart and technique are THERE ... although some might prefer Maria Callas.
jhb134 1 year ago
@jhb134 Maria Callas scream the high notes.
tebaldicallas 1 month ago
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sciorgiodark79 1 year ago
MA è UNA MIA IMPRESSIONE O è PIU ALTA LA TONALITà?
sciorgiodark79 1 year ago
@sciorgiodark79 EH SI è MEZZO TONO PIU ALTA...CHISSà PERCHè...
sciorgiodark79 1 year ago
Il più grande soprano italiano di tutti i tempi. Di fronte alla TEBALDI mi metto in ginocchio ! CI MANCHI TANTISSIMO VOCE D'ANGELO !
31122051 1 year ago 2
non accetto le critiche mosse a questa incisione...oggi si tollerano lirici leggeri che cantano Norma e si critica questa incisione splendida...ma statevi zitti ipocriti...
boysoul1 1 year ago 2
Onegin, como siempre gracias por tus videos. A mi tambien se suena un poco extrano que Tebaldi sonase asi por el 64.
Wotan123456789 1 year ago
Ammazza quanto e' brava!!!
Nicla64 1 year ago 2
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Why is it one semi-tone higher?
sonqualnave 1 year ago
Why is it one semi-tone higher?
sonqualnave 1 year ago
Grandiosa! Una vera sorpresa questa interpretazione.
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This WAS recorded in 1964, and Tebaldi sounds pretty good here. That said, this was emphatically not a role she could have ever sustained on stage. She had a very limited top, and while this is a well sung version, she's pushing her top to the very limits of its endurance. But thanks for posting this. It deserves to be heard.
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No pienso que esta estupenda grabación sea de 1964. Suena muy fresca y jóven y sin esfuerzo. Podría ser de 1954 . Maybe this recording dates from 1954 and not 10 years late. By yhe mid sixties her usual problems with the highest register became more serious... She sounds as a wonderful and young Tebaldi,,,
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se nota cuando no es soprano dramatica pero me gusta ♥
martinci24 2 years ago
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Povera Tebaldi cosi brava , cosa diavolo le e' saltato in mente di registrare "In questa reggia." E' come far fare una discesa libera ad un fondista. Potete dire quello che volete ma non sprechiamo commenti , io amo Turandot e anche la Tebaldi ma questa registrazione dovrebbe essere tolta dal pubblico ascolto. Ha ragione chi dice che sembra una Liu che vuole scimmiottare Turandot. Rispettiamo la grande Renata ed evitiamo di riproporre questa incisione
TheFrankozzi 2 years ago
In totale disaccordo. Si dovrebbe ascoltare il brano da un CD, questo è stato preso da una audiocassetta. Potrei ampiamente argomentare...
SensusEtRatio 2 years ago
The tape turns a semi-tone too high...I didn't recognize her voice at first, it was clearer, with a faster vibrato.
foropera 2 years ago
at 0.40 - the ghost of Boy George!
belcunto 2 years ago
Che dire? Sarebbe ingiusto muover critiche alla resa vocale, che è di altissimo livello. A essere sinceri, quello che incresce quando si ascolta la Tebaldi è la monotonia dell'accento: sempre solenne, sempre nobile, spesso....noiosetto! Ma certamente qui c'è una bella resa vocale!
leprincebeaumont 2 years ago
Sono totalmente d'acccordo con te sulla voce di Tebaldi.
dermotafan 2 years ago
ma sbaglio o è più alta della tonalità originale? tnx
messerg 2 years ago 2
dopo aver spopolato nel ruolo di Liù (eccelsa) Rentona Nazionale si è potuta pure togliere lo sfizio di incidere la parte di Turandot... in un momento in cui se lo poteva permettere. Cmq peccato che nessuno abbia mai pensato di allestire l'opera con Callas-Turandot e Liù-Tebaldi sarebbe stao da sbrodolarsi nelle mutande!!!
makeschfatchimm 2 years ago 12
@makeschfatchimm SAREBBE STATO FAVOLOSO!
sciorgiodark79 1 year ago
Not bad... it kinda gives Turandot this warmer quality... which would make the final transformation more believable. But I think the role was outside the reaches of Renata... Gioconda was as far as she could go, in my concern. That her voice was large didn't really mean that it was heavy enough for these role. Still, it isn't bad, it's pretty good, and much, MUCH worse singer have essayed the role. Kudos, Signora Tebaldi.
AOG93 2 years ago 2
She was insane when she made this recording!
listeningtoit 2 years ago
Orrenda? Ma che cazzo dite?
Kalidor85 2 years ago 5
Does anybody know if Tebaldi ever sang the role of Turandot on stage? How about Liu? Norma? Please tell in what opera theater and when.
prronto2006 2 years ago
She never performed Turandot on stage neither sang the whole role.
There is a recorded version of the complete opera, with Birgit Nilsson playng Turandot and Tebaldi playng Liù.
ombreross 2 years ago
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prronto2006 2 years ago
Splendida!!!!
ginlemon29 2 years ago 2
La Tebaldi presta a Turandot un timbro che anche da solo attribuisce al personaggio maestosa regalità: la principessa si incarna nella bocca di Renata dotata algida nobiltà. Perfetti tutti i registri vocali: le note acute in particolare sono taglienti e penetranti come punte di ghiaccio ed al contempo la voce nel suo complesso è corposa e potente in ogni emissione senza perdere armoniche e smalti. E' una Turandot che ben regge il confronto vocale con un Calaf che interloquisce con lei.
SensusEtRatio 2 years ago
Grazie signore. Questo è da strapparsi i capelli. La Renata non ha mai cantato Turandot per non uccidere nessuno, perche questo e da morire.
claudiocp35 2 years ago 3
Non so se lei intenda morire di bellezza... se intende così... siamo d'accordo... se non è cos' mi spiace per lei... le consiglio di riascoltare.
SensusEtRatio 2 years ago
I really love Tebaldi but I just didn't like her voice in this role. All the other great soprano's brought a dark edge tone quality to this role.
jacob1bro 2 years ago 2
Orrenda.. Che l'ha incisa a fare??!!
orsoghiotto 2 years ago
Quante stupidaggini capita di leggere! Non è possibile ascoltare senza esprimere idiozie se non si hanno i mezzi per comprendere?! Grazie...
SensusEtRatio 2 years ago
@SensusEtRatio BRAVISSIMO! TUTTI ECCELSI PROFESSORI DI CANTO E CRITICI MUSICALI...
sciorgiodark79 1 year ago
Sembra Liù che vuole scimmiottare Turandot :)
lilnagnifico 2 years ago
Adoro la Renata, ma qui è completamente fuori parte, mi spiace :)
lilnagnifico 2 years ago
BRAVA.
perfumedlife 2 years ago
La más bella música interpretada por la sonora belleza de una voz prodigiosa .
birdonet 3 years ago 2
La Tebaldi presta a Turandot un tibro che anche da solo attribuisce al personaggio maestosa regalità: la principessa si incarna nella bocca di Renata dotata algida nobiltà. Perfetti tutti i registri vocali: le note acute in particolare sono taglienti e penetranti come punte di ghiaccio ed al contempo la voce nel suo complesso è corposa e potente in ogni emissione senza perdere armoniche e smalti. E' una Turandot che ben regge il confronto vocale con Calaf che interloquisce con lei.
SensusEtRatio 3 years ago
Is it me or is the key here higher than the original? maybe it was distortion with the recording. I don't see why a singer would want to make this aria harder than it already is..
syrinx79 3 years ago
ya, it seemed that way to me too.. hmm
vocalpianist 3 years ago
She sings here in the same key as everyone else. The recording is just brighter than most, and so is the timbre of her voice. But it's the same key.
taytaytoo 2 years ago
She's actually singing a semitone higher than printed. Any idea why? All the best.
Gingersoprano 2 years ago
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This is most decidedly in a higher key than written - just find other renditions of this aria on YouTube (there are many) to demonstrate that clearly to yourself. I wonder if the error is mechanical, something to do with the recording - that seems likely to me; Tebaldi, whose voice I love dearly, had a short top, and seems to me that the last thing she'd have wanted to do would be to push this very difficult aria, already out of her comfort zone, even higher.
MMK9 2 years ago
No, it's higher. Most definitely higher. Listen to some of the other performances here on YouTube -- you should hear the difference immediately from the very first note.
MMK9 2 years ago
This was very nice. Not ideally suited to her voice capabilities, but in sounds like the engineers tried on purpose to make her sound young and vulnerable.
I would loved to have heard her sing the final scene of the opera. I'm sure she would have been ravishing in the moment Turandot sings "Il suo nome, e amor".
operachad 3 years ago
da paura...!!!!!!!!!!!!! Una immensa Tebaldi e si capiscono benissimo tutte le parole, sono rimasto di stucco.., ma perché si parla sempre solo9 della callas? Questa signora tebaldi è una immensa.
chambersgif 3 years ago 2
She's AMAZING! :D
FrozenMermaid666 3 years ago 2
beautiful interpretation, aside from the high notes.
tenor220 3 years ago
same problem I have with her, beautiful all the way through except when she goes up
ElPiconeroalCognac 3 years ago
Incredibile davvero. Anche i passaggi più scabrosi non intaccano minimamente la morbidezza unica della voce della Tebaldi. Penso che negli anni migliori avrebbe potuto veramente portarla in scena (tra l'altro era alta e bella, come la Principessa dovrebbe e spesso non è).
La recente moda di ridimensionare certi grandissimi non ha molto senso. Questa è una delle prove che dimostrano che avrebbe molto più senso il contrario: riscoprire le cose meno conosciute e ammirare.
pippomelodrammatico 3 years ago 11
sublime, come sempre!
ginlemon29 3 years ago
Incredibile, anche fuori dal suo repertorio la tebaldi rimane una grandissima, inimitabile. Brava Renata!
mdellavalle 3 years ago 3
La Tebaldi presta a Turandot un tibro che anche da solo attribuisce al personaggio maestosa regalità: la principessa si incarna nella bocca di Renata dotata algida nobiltà. Perfetti tutti i registri vocali: le note acute in particolare sono taglienti e penetranti come punte di ghiaccio ed al contempo la voce nel suo complesso è corposa e potente in ogni emissione senza perdere armoniche e smalti. E' una Turandot che ben regge il confronto vocale con Calaf che interloquisce con lei.
SensusEtRatio 3 years ago
This sounds like a VERY young Tebaldi...Onegin65, are you sure this was recorded in 1964?
tristanhnl 3 years ago
Much of this is surprisingly good - despite uncomfortable top notes - and the opening section has real sensitivity. Still, not the ideal exponent.
paulprocopolis 3 years ago
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The speed up of the tape must be for much in the better opinion I have here than on the CD recording which left me the memory of live skinned cat screams and shouting herself hoarse in the extreme tessitura. Only in the central register her voice finds back her legendary smoothness and velvet. Obviously, Turandot is not for her delicate instrument, even not "In questa reggia".
PonselleLover 3 years ago
Tebaldi is magnificent, but I agree this is not for her and even when she was younger she still wouldnt have had the high notes for this. i dont know if i would call her instrument delicate though. quite powerful actually jsut not fiery.
moghedien13 3 years ago
Using "delicate", I didn't mean "fragile" but rather that the subtle beauty of her tone was put into a severe trial by the murdurous intervals and fury of Turandot.
PonselleLover 3 years ago
She sounds damn good to me!
qbendanny1 3 years ago 6
Hay algo que me inquieta saber acerca de esta maravillosa y por demás, curiosa interpretación de la Gran TEbaldi en Turandot. Si es la tonalidad original con la cual se grabó en estudio o es una alteración.
filiodecallas 3 years ago
Es mi viejo reproductor de cassettes que algunas cintas antiguas las acelera, suena casi un semitono más alto que el original. No pongo la del CD porque deja huella digital y la Decca me puede cerrar lacuenta
Onegin65 3 years ago
Muchas gracias por responderme. De cualquier manera, sea en este tono o en el original del aria, la interpretación de Tebaldi es a mi juicio, otro mundo, como el poveri fiori de Magda Olivero o la Casta Diva de Callas. La versión de Callas en Turandot es una de las que más me hace vibrar. Ahora Tebaldi, es todo un descubrimiento.
filiodecallas 3 years ago 4
Usa Nero Wave Editor y listo...
yodavidnavarro 3 years ago
La Tebaldi presta a Turandot un tibro che anche da solo attribuisce al personaggio maestosa regalità: la principessa si incarna nella bocca di Renata dotata algida nobiltà. Perfetti tutti i registri vocali: le note acute in particolare sono taglienti e penetranti come punte di ghiaccio ed al contempo la voce nel suo complesso è corposa e potente in ogni emissione senza perdere armoniche e smalti. E' una Turandot che ben regge il confronto vocale con un ipotetico Calaf che interloquisce con lei.
SensusEtRatio 3 years ago 5
Totally wrong for her ( espcially the strained high notes) Her Liu is absolutley lovely though.
janejones11 3 years ago
she combines the intensity and punch of Nilsson with her natural beautiful Italian legato and diction! i love tebaldi!
OettingerCroat 3 years ago 2
Beautiful famous studio performance but it's a little too late for the high notes...
But what a voice of course!
KILLERADVICE 3 years ago
this was recorded in 1964 with the philidelphia phil.this particular clip somehow is running a littlefast.the original is far superior for richness and deph of beauty of voice. also " QUEL GRIDO " was never sung more clearly on a B natural than here.
luigicorvi24 3 years ago
If you mean Callas, yes, she recorded both !
Operacrazed 3 years ago
Strange audio,some time speeded,to make clearer the voice.High notes to cancel from memory.
saverioorlando 3 years ago
Renata Tebaldi con la sua voce stratosferica poteva tutto e anche "In questa reggia" è straordinaria. Chiaramente si sente la venatura lirica che discorda col personaggio di Turandot, personaggio che comunque Renata avrebbe potuto portare in scena benissimo, ma non credo fosse adatto alla sua indole.
stesondrio88 3 years ago 2
This is a little bit speeded up from the original...Anyways great Renata, I love the begining of the aria in a beautiful mezza voce
Dondinin 3 years ago 3
was this transposed UP? that sounded like a C#... FANTASTIC performance
OettingerCroat 3 years ago
You are right. They raised the score.
cek1111 3 years ago
In 1965 Nilsson,Björling and Tebaldi recorded Turandot under Leinsdorf which is an excellent recording second only to Sutherland and Pavarotti's recording under Mehta. It would serve justice to listen to Tebaldi as Liu and listen to Nilsson as Turandot. Unfortunately Renata is sailing all over the top here. Ricciarelli and Domingo are another excellent choice.
tHEnOOSEsWINGS 3 years ago
Wrong.Leinsdorf's "Turandot" was recorded in 1959 and Tebaldi recorded Liù under Erede in 1955 too.
Tebaldi's reggia was from her first concert (1964) after her year off (1963).By 1967 she could have recorded it better, she was in great shape by 1967.
fleville 3 years ago 2
yes i just heard the Domingo-Ricciarelli performance, and their great "In questa reggia". While not quite as good as Nilsson and Corelli (in these two roles, I doubt ANYONE can beat them), Domingo and Ricciarelli are certainly one of the best duos for Calàf-Turandot I've ever heard!
OettingerCroat 3 years ago
Um, wrong, her top sounds thin in this.
Dymension 3 years ago
Wrong about what and whom? Did you read my comment as written? Are you saying Tebaldi's top sounds thin? I'll assume so since this is her recording. A bit of confusion maybe?
Andante735 3 years ago
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I was not responding to anyone. I simply heard the clip and decided that this a wrong choice for her.
Dymension 3 years ago
Whom said Nilsson could sing Turandot so well???
The best Turandot fue Cigna.
Federicopera 3 years ago
That's according to your opinion. Who said Nilsson sang Turandot so well? Try 98 % of opera fans, that's who. Ask anyone here, and you'll get the same reply. I like Cigna's rendition, and also Eva Turner- but Nilsson was in a class all her own. It's the difference to between 2 huge voices, one with endless high notes with a laser quality, and complete control and clean, the other huge and exciting in less controlled manner. I happen to like Cigna's Aida - huge and fun.
Andante735 3 years ago 3
I'll say it again, nobody loves Tebaldi more than me :)), but to say she's better than Nilsson is crazy, it's absolutely unacceptable to me. Do we say Nilsson was better than Tebaldi singing "donde lieta usci" from Boheme? No, of course not.
Andante735 3 years ago 6
very good point!
francotenelli 3 years ago
I've heard thing like Nikolai Gedda is better Calaf then Franco Corelli.
First, no matter how beautifly he sings in studio, Gedda never sang the whole role and would never sung it.
Some people listen to opera without knowing caracters, types of voice suitable and that's OK, but please stop being an opera critiques, for that one needs more then a love for music.
comescrittomaestro 3 years ago
I also love Tebaldi, in fact she is my favorite voice(better voice then Callas) and she sings in Questa reggia beautifly but unfortunatly not in caracter(she was lirico-spito, role requires Dramatic voice)
comescrittomaestro 3 years ago
Were you replying to me? I received your comment in my account. I completely agree with your comment above. It's important for us to remember that if a singer performs one aria on recording, that doesn't mean they would sing the role in full length. Great comment.
Andante735 3 years ago
This recording, along with other arias from Nabucco, Sonnambula, Norma, Puritani, and Samson, etc. was suppressed from the original release of Renata Tebaldi: A Tebaldi Festival. The great soprano wanted them released upon her 75th birthday (which they were). Maestro Tullio Serafin advised her never to attempt Norma; she ventures into Casta Diva/Ah, bello in this set, proving him to be right. She is less successful in the other bel canto arias.
MusicaParola 3 years ago
Maestro Serafin wanted her absolutely to sing Norma, and tryed hard to convince her, even proposed to take a 6 months together to learn and study the role, but Tebaldi refused. Revise your sources , it's the opposite.
PalazzoFarnese 3 years ago
That is what Lanfranco Rasponi reports in his book "The Last Prima Donnas" (London: Victor Gollancz Ltd, 1982). Although he represented Madame Tebaldi for a while, his information is incorrect. Alas, he cannot revise his sources, as he died in 1983.
MusicaParola 3 years ago
I just love this performance from Tebaldi. She shows both sides of Turandot's charecter in this recording. If only she had recorded the whole opera.
mrrk 3 years ago 2
wow. what a feast of tone and armonici. brava Renata. the recording studio was too small for the bigness of your voice but it gives some idea of the early incredible beauty of this great voice. She is simply the best always.
A7sogno 3 years ago 5
It says 1964 at the beginning of the video. I don't think she sang it early. She had been singing Liu before this. This is shortly before she added Gioconda. It is a little fast, actually. Perhaps she was comfortable taking it a little faster. The top is big and there, but she is working up there. The mikes are fairly close to her, making the recording have a bit of a tang, especially up higher.
marchesano 3 years ago 3
What stage in her career? It is obvious from the sound that she performed this aria early in her career. Here she has a top which, late in her career, she did not. Additionally, she used chest notes late in her career which she does not do here. When was this recorded?
4lebenbaum 3 years ago 2
I know people love Tebaldi, but I think at this stage in her career, this aria makes her sound a little frayed and overparted. The top is mostly there, but it sounds white and pinched to my ears, not as secure as the role demands.
BeauTenor 3 years ago
I love and worship Tebaldi at the altar of opera, but this is completely wrong for her voice. Yes Beautenor, she does sound a bit frayed and overworked up top. This is sort of the equivalent of Callas singing the Willow song and Ave Maria from Otello. Did she record that?
Andante735 3 years ago
I'd like to know why my comment, and BeauTenor's were marked as spam people. There was nothing offensive or unkind in either one. Look at the first 5 words of mine! His was completely objective, and not at all insulting. Alot of people here cannot seem to handle any criticism or honesty here.
Andante735 3 years ago
i agree with you.
gyedd 3 years ago 2
Mai sentito una Tebaldi così intensa, così possente, gli acuti così intonate e la sempre sua grande è squillante voce; meglio que la Nilsson in quest'aria; un canto più italiano come debe essere quello di Turandot. Meraviglisa Renata
ezcascar 3 years ago 5