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  • only what you want to hear, of course this turned an easily fixable Iraq into a decade long intervention in saudi, kuwaiti, turkish, and israeli affairs and no-fly zones to keep the bombs droppin and that oil poppin. Until a decade later at his behest, we entered that insane plot to the very end. A fraud and a war criminal

  • Richard In-saney apparently used to be sane.

  • What happened to Richard Bruce Insaney from that time until he fully took the foreign policy portfolio from Mush in 2002? According to Colonel Larry Wilkerson, it was the result of "a lack of adult supervision," and that this was the true Dick.

  • This video should run on a continuous loop in Cheney's prison cell for the rest of his life.

  • After listening to this speech it all makes sense. The time wasn't right. 2003 we were more capable then ever.

  • This really just blows my mind.

  • Dirty Dick is a sage, a mind reader, a future teller, he knew exactly what would happen, but he went in anyway 10 years later.

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  • dick cheney should have listened to his own advice...

  • He wouldn't have gotten his Haliburton dividends if he did!

  • Hey lets go duck hunting! But wear a bullet proof vest!

  • my dick looks better than this dick

    :)

    The knowledge of "good/bad" exists..and those fuckers have chosen to be evil ...

    This is just a game..and they are making the rules on the game...

    New "bank" puppet Obama ..will atach some new rules...

    Better for the People?

  • He just made a pretty good case for not invading Iraq, it's too bad he didn't convince himself.

  • wise man, too bad he flip floped after 9-11, he really had it right back in 1992.

  • Unfortunately, he didn't mention the real reason.

  • Which is?

  • They didn't want to turn Iraq into a Chaotic system where Iran could or would gain influence. Iraq was always there as a counter weight to Iranian power and influence in the region. So Saddam was there to counter Iran. Who they, and a lot of Americans, look at an enemy. We believe that they hate us and want to destroy us. So One evil to counter the other.

  • Yeah, great opportunity to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians and thousands of our troops to remove one petty dictator.

    Here's to hoping natural selection catches up to you and yours! Cheers!

  • Al Queda operates out of Afghanistan and Pakistan, not Iraq.

    Saddam didn't tolerate terrorist organizations when he was in charge, because he perceived them to be a threat to his power, which is what he valued above all else.

    He was an asshole, for sure, but Iraq was not a terrorist state with him there. Now it is and we can thank the current administration for that one.

    Oh yeah and ummm... In case you forgot we helped put Saddam in power during the Iran Iraq war.

  • @GuzzyVision Iraq was actually one of the terrorist state sponsors. Saddam give money to the PLO and among others to attack Israel and American interests aboard. During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, U.S. Army Special Forces founded one of the world largest terrorist training camps since the fall of the Taliban in 2001 Afghanistan - Ansar al Islam.

    And no we did not put Saddam in power during Iran-Iraq War. You're dead wrong and a liar. He actually came into power by himself in 1979.

  • @Hperman09 But we did sponsor and help Saddam once he came into power. There are pictures of some of the Bush Admin. shaking hands with Saddam.

  • @acheybrenda We didn't support Saddam until after the Iranian revolution and Iran alliance with the USSR. We see Iraq as part of the Cold War arena and tried to make Hussein allied with the West which backfired. Also we didn't put Saddam in power.

  • We have "opportunities" to remove dictators the world over. What about Mugabe? What about Kim Jong Il? We can't police the world that way. it's not our right, and we've seent he consequences. Al Qaeda in Iraq didn't exist until we arrived. If that wasn't the case, Sadaam would have had to deal with terrorism all the time. This is no conspiracy: Cheney and Co. just conveniently forgot/ignored all of the reasons to NOT invade Iraq so they could served corporate interests.

  • Dick Cheney is Satan.

  • that's a completely wrong number on iraqi dead since 2003 it's more like 600,000 to 1000,000,000.

  • i wish every pro-war supporter could watch this

  • wow...I've seen similar videos to this one...

    I'm completely disillusioned with our government...particularly this administration. I'm honestly ashamed, embarassed, and filled with rage over the past two terms of Mr. George Dub-yah...he is a disgrace to our nation and I cannot wait until he is replaced and cause no further damage to our country...hopefully then we'll be able to salvage what is left of our image abroad.

  • halliburton built a brand new headquarters in dubai last year.

  • Iran is a country whose defense spending is less than 1% of our own; spends less on its military than countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden; has never invaded another country in modern history, and could not possibly threaten us

  • I couldn't agree with you more. But guess what Iran is rich in? It couldn't be oil because the Bush Administration has no interest in that (please note the thick sarcasm).

  • wow...he actually made sense back than. The years must have gotten the best of him, because based on his latest action, he obviously went fuck nuts...

  • Cheney is a smart guy and this goes to show he knew exactly what would happen if we went in there, which just shows the level of corruption and hypocrisy in the Bush administration. Does anybody really think it was a coincidence that Halliburton and other contractors got huge no bid contracts. Maybe if the media and the majority of congress listened to the Cheney of of 92' and asked those questions we wouldn't be there in the first place. End the occupation, vote Obama.

  • Dick.

  • hahaha.LMAO.short and to the point.

  • Most of this world anguish comes from subservient governments filled with self serving politicians selling out to the wicked International Banker's NWO. Especially the two parties sharing the spoils in America. Americans are to blame for being ignorant and apathetic. Ron Paul is our last chance to have an Honest and Honorable president, with a Non-CFR Rockefeller cabinet.

  • WOW! WOW! WOW

    Have you seen the donations coming in today (Nov 30'th) to RonPAUL2008. com

    Its at $10.1 million this quarter. Averaging $500/Min = $30,000/Hr

    Google: CNN REP DEBATE 11-28-07

    Google: David Rockefeller Fears Ron Paul

  • It is very simple, back then the Us needed Saddam to stay in power, scaring the Gulf states into keeping US bases in the region, today those Gulf states are gladly hosting US bases (CENTCOM in Qatar)without a need for e threat. Saddam was of no use to the US like he was when he invaded Iran and killed the Kurds (with US support). He had to go, regardless of US or Iraqi casualties.

  • What he said would be true today, but at that point it was right to take down Saddam. The context between the two invasions was different. Si he screwed up twice. He's like an ingrown hair enlarged in my ass.

  • It's amazing that these people knew exactly what they were getting us into. Without hesitation they invaded this country and right here in this speech he forecasted what has happened. After 3800+ dead in Iraq, an open border which is plaguing the US economy and our security, and a growing defecit I am led to believe that the devil lives in the White House. I hope these assholes spend the rest of eternity roasting in hell.

  • "After 3800+ dead in Iraq"

    Concerning war-related deaths (civilian and non-civilian), and deaths from criminal gangs, Iraq's Health Minister Ali al-Shemari said that since the March 2003 invasion between 100,000-150,000 Iraqis had been killed."

    The soldiers knew the potential risk of their job, though the gov. is still to blame. But a thing you rarely hear in the media is the numbers of total deaths, especially civilians.

    This is near 10 times the 2,974 casualties of 9/11.

    And this is just

  • Darth Cheney.

  • impeach!

  • They did not invade at that time because Sadam's capability to control the oil in the region was severely diminished by the Gulf War attacks. However, by 2000, he had regained his footing and potential to control Mideast oil. The rest is history . . .

  • I see he talked gibirish even before I was born

  • we need to stop this shit now and the people here in the usa are waiting for civil war in this country to break out .if all of us could come together like the people did for the jena 6 only in millons they might listen

  • Theres an intelligent answer, lets have a massive ass kicking, isn't that what all the lefties are upset about now? You've proved my point space, your upset over the uprising in iraq, but your all for a civil war in this country.That makes perfect sense doesn't it?If the jena 6 are your hero's,god help you.

  • America is not your mommy. George W. Bush is not your daddy. They don't just deserve your unconditional adoration and devotion. That's not how this country works. You are an imperialist, authoritarian and mildly retarded.

  • stock market crash

    dollar callapse

    depression

    devalulation

    war

    end of days

    everything is going to happen read your bible the third anti chris is mabus

    ma(gog) bus(h) magog the devils person sent to destroy

    search CHALMERS JOHNSON on the collapse of American Empire

  • Didn't all that in the 30's?

  • REGISTER REPUBLICIAN NOW: States with OPEN primaries are now CLOSING!!

    You CANNOT switch parties after OCTOBER 12 in NEW YORK and NEW HAMPSHIRE and if you are not registered as republican by then, YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR RON PAUL

  • You have less than nothing if you let a Christian evangelist take the scripture out of context to hurt minorities.

    All Christians are hypocrite liars who enjoy taking the scripture out of context to hurt just about every minority that there is under the sun.

  • Double talking scumbag...I guess the war wasn't going to be profitable at the time he gave that speech...I hope he dies a slow death of cancer that scumbag

  • Best Vice President of the modern era.

  • Holy shit. The man has lost his mind. I blame it on Anti-Marijuana campaigns.

  • Dick Cheney - American Hypocrite

    In 1959, under Eisenhower, rather than expose itself by attempting the assassination of a foreign leader, the CIA sought out six members of the Iraqi Ba'ath party to assassinate the Prime Minister. Among them was a young Saddam Hussein.

    Hussein's tale begins in 1959. Dwight D. Eisenhower, then President of the United States, authorized the CIA to undertake the assassination of Iraqi Prime Minister and General Abd al-Karim Qasim.

  • Don't tell this to CompassionRepublican. He still thinks America spreads "democracy" and doesn't resort to imperialistic actions that you speak of. Oh, it must be nice to live in a world so black and white. As they say, "Ignorance is bliss".CompassionRepublican just keep telling yourself they hate us for our freedom.You are borderline delusional. I guess you are a high schooler or at the least with no more than a high school education and come from a small town.

  • I hope we play this tape at his trial for war crimes.

  • 11 years too late. Hats off, American media....

  • Keep up the good work and ignore the haters

  • Smart man. I <3 1992 Cheney

  • Well this vid matters nothing now. We already gunned down middle eastern people for our own reasons, whatever those freak'n justified reasons are for americans.

  • dick cheney used to be smart! who knew?!

  • Well said.

    Unfortunately the country pays a dear price for his folly.

  • He's still smart. He's just more evil too.

  • Wow.

    This would have been nice 4 years ago as opposed to 15 years ago.

    Wtf is wrong with journalists in this country?

  • I like this Dick Cheney

  • "honorable"? that's pretty funny...

    anyway, this man has no become a war criminal. we know where he is, why isn't he being brought to justice?

  • He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Check out there own website; look at how they want to give away our sovereignty. Learn the truth about the Federal Reserve:

    "America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version" now playing at Google video.

    Oppose the National ID of May 2008.

    Check out my page for the link.

    Vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.

  • CHeney used to be so smart.

  • All this video proves, is that the war in Iraq had been planned since 92... That's the sad truth that was kept from all of us.

  • google the new american century cause its pretty crazy what that says like insanely crazy

  • where were these videos 5 years ago. our media has become a huge propaganda campaign.

  • No shit. I haven't seen this on FOX and Friends.

  • did you just realise that?

  • The question is how can Bush and Cheney, the first 21st Century Fascists, atone for their sins of war. Before the war over oil ends, a million lives will be lost, including women and children. The war will end up costing us over 1,000 billion dollars. Bush & Cheney should have been prosecuted for acts against humanity-Congress doesn't have the will to do so, for they too voted for the WAR. People confuse religion with God.

  • 15 years ago.

    Is that all you got.

  • Christians take the scripture out of context to put thoughts in God's head. They are pros. With the full support of the Christian evangelists, God's words have become a sheer excuse to have people believe that God hates minorities. Christians are liars, hypocrites, bigots, users and abusers of God's words. They have no respect for the meanings of the messages of God in the Scripture. They only want to abuse God's words power by misquoting HIM.

  • Unlike the religion of peace that says those who don't believe should be bound and their head cut off. Christianity is great religion but we don't go around cutting your head off for not being one.

  • You're right. Instead of beheading our foes we bomb them.

  • History will remember Bush Cheney and all as the War Criminals they really are. No spinning that any other way. Not about left&right. We can thank Bush and Cheney for that too!

  • History will judge them as great leaders. People wanted Lincoln impeached and strung up for hanging reporters, jailing those accused of treason (over 9,000) and starting a war based on a lie.  People though history would look at FDR as an idiot for getting involved with the Germans when it was the Japanese that attacked us. They said Reagan was going to bring upon WWIII. Bush will be looked back upon as the man who brought the first true Democracy to that region in history.

  • lonchaney76, your history is so damn wrong is not even funny.

  • Ok, so chenney is not a moron. Therefore he should definitely be tried as a traitor to the United States of America. This exert is material evidence that Chenney later lied to the American People. Previously, his only defence was stupidity, not he can no longer lay claim to that defence.

  • You are retarded. A lot changed in 15 years. That's like showing a video of Churchill from 15 years before WWII.

  • nothing changed, the situation he outlined, rather the issued faced by the illegal invasion and murder of Sadaam led to exactly the kind of issues that he refers to. What changed was that Chenney got paid to betray American interests by Apartheid Israel and Haliburton

  • i guess he was worth 4k of us lives now. fuking dick.everything he said is happening now & im sure we will b there for another 5 to 10 yrs, fuking dick

  • I appreciate Cheney's patriotism in ducking Vietnam service. He was just trying to prevent friendly fire casualties!

  • boy things ganged aftter sep-11-2001. but i must say he knew what he was talking about even 10-15 years ago!

  • This guy knew everything - no false intelligence as everyone claimed! It just proves politics trumps everything, including thousands of American lives!

  • one word . "WOW".

  • We attacked Iraq because they stopped trading oil in US $ and there by flooding the market with US $. This devalued the US $ so they thought that we had to put a government in that would trade in US $. This isn't a reason to attack so they had to lie...

  • That was just a side benifit. Read "A Clean Break". The Neo-cons and Zionist fanatics have for a long time wanted to invade Iraq and they wrote about it in the late 90's. Most of the authors were Jewish and ended up in power in the Bush 2000-2004 administration. Big Oil is a diversion from the real culprits: AIPAC and the neocons. Iran and Syria are next.

  • That guy is brilliant. He knew everything that was going to go wrong 11 years before it went wrong! Too bad he wasn't in the administration to warn them about these dangers...

  • Before you start calling people simpletons, perhaps you should do some quick research into the history of Al Qaeda in Iraq. It didn't even exist until after we attacked! It amazing me how many 'simpetons' still think Iraq had anything to do with 9/11

  • "I don't know where he is. I just don't spend that much time on it, to be honest with you." - George W Bush on Bin Laden, six months after 9/11

    "My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade...if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency." George W Bush, 1999

    Wake up and smell your shovel.

  • How ANYONE could EVER believe there was a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda is absolutely incomprehensible to me.

  • one word : Zarqawi, the liberals probably consider him a marter lol. Seriously though, the connection is that Iraq is in the middle east. Sadly, maybe that is over your head. The way to stop terrorism is to promote democracy. Future history books will record: Bush and Cheney won the war on terror and Reagan beat communism. Liberals spent a lot of money on pork and social programs that failed.

  • If George Bush is so concerned about the war on terror then WHY DOES HE SAY THAT HE DOESN'T CARE WHERE BIN LADEN IS?

    Why did we start a war in a country we knew Bin Laden wasn't in? The simpleton here is the person who keeps trying to tie Iraq to 9-11. the only connection is that the tragedy of 9-11 was played to get us into a war with a country that DID NOT ATTACK US. Why was George Bush talking about invading Iraq in 1999, 2 years before 9-11? "One word :Zarqawi" can't answer that.

  • Because einstien, bin laden is old al queda. Al queda in Iraq is the new Al Quida. Get a clue. Iraq has always been a hotbed for terror. Sadam himself was a terrorist to his people. Because youre protected by GOP and the military, you do have the right still to rant. Its about freedom. Freedom from terror is the current battle were in FWIW. Read more, and get a clue.

  • "Al Queda?"You mean Al-Qaeda.How can a well read individual misspell"Saddam","you're" and "Al-Qaeda"?Why do you use the possessive form of "Its" wrongly?Are you American or are you just a illiterate American who votes Bush?"Read more,and get a clue"?What the hell are you reading that associates Iraq with 9/11 and Al-Qaeda?What is old and new Al-Qaeda?You're a perfect example of a person who noy able to think for themselves.Lenin called you:" Useful Idiots"

  • a person who noy able???? a illiterate? You proved yourself an moron by picking at chat conversation as if it was a thesis. Youre whats wrong with liberals. You focus on UNIMPORTANT things and let the world go to hell by sticking your hippie heads in the sand and whining all day. You disgust me.

  • Who created this new Al Quaeda franchise according to your logic?

    Who's kidding who, there was no Al Quaeda in Iraq before the war, and even now they only make up 5 - 7 % of the insurgency.

  • dear einstein, there are no troop counts by al quida, the whole point is to use cells, many cells and even under torture you cant get at the hard numbers. You dont know anything about insurgencies or terrorism. *sigh*

  • So... you're essentially saying, "9-11 is old shit. We should forget about that. Saddam Hussein [the first step to learning about your enemy is learning how to spell his name...] was a much larger terrorist than Bin Laden." That's an interesting stance. You're not interested in bringing to justice the people who were behind the 9-11 attacks?

    I would also like to point out that, due to your poor grasp of syntax, you defined Albert Einstein as being "old al queda". Funny.

  • "Seriously though, the connection [between Iraq and Al Qaeda] is that Iraq is in the middle east."

    Are you kidding?

  • Why were we attacked? Was it because are are free and woman can vote? Is that what you believe? If not, then you can start down the long road of discovering how our foreign policy in the Mideast has made us these enemies. And what the hell did 9/11 have to do with Iraq? God you are so misinformed. Exactly the type of person the government loves!

  • We were attacked because RADICAL ( note i did NOT say all muslims) muslims hate the west and our friends Israel. This started on clintons watch in 93 in the TWIN TOWERS...so dont give me this moveon crap. I do know whats going on, but obviously you just listen to cucinich and wave peace signs at everyone lol~!

  • Wow, so this is what a Bush-bot is like. Stop looking at everything as Democrat-Republican! I am a registered Republican and never would associate myself with most liberals. Arabs hate the West because we are meddling in their internal affairs constantly and blindly support that terror state of Israel. People like you annoy the hell out of me.

  • Youre about as Republican as Ron Paul. Paul is a anarchist/libertaria. I'd say that describes you to a tee as well. You try to hijack the GOP because you know they are mainstream. too bad youre not. Sorry charlie lol! Ron Paul may be better than hilderbeast, but that's NOT saying much!

  • ron paul is more republican than any one else its just that republicans have clearly lost there way in a new neo con world where to them middle east is the enemy i mean what we are doing out there is the new american century just google that ironre the people who claim it says that bush did the attacks but check out what it said about the middle east its some pretty crazy shit

  • Sounds like a debate between 1992 Cheney and 2007 Cheney would be quite interesting.

  • yeah...this criminal was concerned about 146 dead americans...what a poor excuse for a human being...

  • It appears Cheney is an amazing fortune teller

  • Funny how this information was made public 10 years before we went back into Iraq but is only now being played again, as if though it was new insight. The Dem's Capitulated with Bush and the neo-cons to thrust us into this unjust war and are now using it to play to people's emotions. Shame on them for doing this and shame on us for letting it get to this point.

  • How can anyone defend the Bush Administration?

  • a country full of douches voting in the biggest douche of all

  • damn he hits it on every note

  • cheney will burn in the lowest levels of hell.

  • The thing I don't get is most U.S. citizens already knew all this when they were beating the drum to go in. What happened?

    How come only a few of you supported us when we were screaming this was a bad idea? Why now is this video a big deal? Why wasn't it a big deal in 2003?

    The answer to that question is why Bush and Cheney need to size up a jail cell. Their choice, and we'll supply curtains.

  • thanks for posting

  • It is called a joke.

  • It simply was just much more difficult than he believed it was. Quagmire become Cakewalk.

    How? The collapse of Iraq economically, millitarily, and politically through 10 years of sanctions and almost daily bombings.

    2003: Cakewalk means Quagmire.

    1992: Quagmire means Hell

    It is explained easily, he just way over-estimated how easy it would have been.

  • what happened to THIS Cheney??

    its amazing how money and self special interests can corrupt the mind (and government officials)

  • CHeney and Bush are fucking fool, cunt assholes. THey are just a bunch a lying sluts who persuade the ignorant americans(conservatives) to trust them. BUsh is a dumb bitch, he couldn't wipe his own fucking ass!

  • American politics is so shit...

  • yep, juleofdenial!

  • War Criminal.

  • HONORABLE!? that's hilarious!

  • "How many lives is Sadaam Hussein really worth? Not very many."

    Cheney, why didn't you stick to your guns?

    Ron Paul 2008!!!

  • Dick Cheney You Leech! You want Oil You little Leech Gangster. Pull out your gun and blast!

  • yeh, riiiiight. dipshit

  • lol He got soem haliburton money ,that's what

  • What exactly changed in 12 years?? Where's the highly touted WMD of Iraq? Listen to his final remarks on how many soldiers lives were worth sacrificing to bring Saddam to Justice. How many has he sacrificed now?

  • Why were so many good soldiers lives sacrificed because of faulty or manipulated intelligence? What is the end result and exactly how is America more safe now than it was under Saddam's Iraq?? And how many is the "not too damn many" that Dick is talking about??? Hipocrisy is what blackens the souls of man, and is enemy to God's Trust...

    We've already had one "Tricky Dick", so I dub thee "Tricky Dick II"....

  • America is more safe now because we have taken the fight to the terrorists. By eliminating Saddam and establishing a free and democratic Iraq, we have forced the terrorists to confront our military in a foreign country full of Muslims. As they killed Muslim women and children they are isolating themselves.

  • halliburton...blackwater...car­lyle...bechtel...exxon...bp...­.chevron...

  • What a dick!

  • that's the best case for withdrawal i think i've heard yet

  • I am going to email this to everyone I know! These guys sold us out! 100% Proven!

  • what get me really angry is that this video was not brought up in the 2004 election.... the dems should have been playing it 24hrs a day

  • yeah, that was before he got hooked up with halliburton and a scheme to make obscene money with an endless war. yipee! even have a private army like blackwater for serious gangster muscles, too! iraq oil, money from the u.s. treasury, his own personal army, jesus, how sweet it is!

  • They rigged the votes. The fact is is that they are criminals and lost both elections. If you hate innocent people who have done nothing to you then I don't care if you hate me. You are not the type of friend I would want anyway. Hate Bush and Cheney sure, but just hating all Americans just makes you out to be an ass just like them.

  • 9/07 minus 9/92 = 15ys. Golly, look how young and hansome he used to be! So winsome and carefree...what a shame. The war really has taken a toll on all of us!

  • the Iraqi Part II began in 2003 there father-time so 03-91 = 12 years, it's not "fuzzy-math"

  • CHENEY HAS COMMITTED TREASON --- Don't let this ever happen again -- RON PAUL 2008

  • What exactly changed in 12 years?? Where's the highly touted WMD of Iraq? Listen to his final remarks on how many soldiers lives were worth sacrificing to bring Saddam to Justice. continued below...

  • Why were so many good soldiers lives sacrificed because of faulty or manipulated intelligence? What is the end result and exactly how is America more safe now than it was under Saddam's Iraq?? And how many is the "not too damn many" that Dick is talking about??? Hipocrisy is what blackens the souls of man, and is enemy to God's Trust...

    We've already had one "Tricky Dick", so I dub thee "Tricky Dick II"....

  • Such foresight from "last throes" Cheney.

    A far cry from "We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators."

  • You're missing the point. Sure Iraqis were happy as hell to see Saddam overthrown. Once they realized we were there to stay, they got angry and decided to resist the occupation.

    At any rate, U.S. bombing campaigns were pretty indiscriminate and devastating to Iraqi infrastructure. Many civilians became "collateral damage." Those who witnessed this never greeted coalition forces as liberators, because nobody thinks killing grandmothers and toddlers is a positive thing.

  • #1 - Iraqis arent the insurgents. #2- collateral damage was kept to a minimum and they had very little infrastucture to begin with. What we should have done was bomb the place from north to south and east to west like they used to. Then you have the people's attention, they are far more likely to listen and the ones from outside far less likely to get involved.

  • Dude, are you fucking kidding me. A direct quote from a friend who came back from Iraq, 'We have royaly fucked up that country for the next 40 years'. But yeah, schools n kids n stuff...

  • So, one supposed friend knows whats best fro Iraq. Whatdid he do in the military? Infantry, nurse, cook, dozer operator. Just curious. For your one friend I have heard countless soldiers interviewed and families of soldiers interviewed that speak of all the good that's being done. Who are we to believe? Get a life asshole

  • I personally know 3 people (1 cousin) who have returned from Iraq. They all unanimously agree that the invasion & subsequent occupation was a mistake, and that our continued presence will inflame the conflict.

    All 3 were US Army ground troops, by the way, and have told me plenty of horrendous stories, alongside an unfortunately small handful of positive stories.

    I recommend you enlist to serve if you support the cause, the military could use the boost in actually meeting recruitment goals.

  • I have similar situation and agree w/ you.

    I find the end of our civilization is nearing, not to unsettle you, but to reassure you that this all really does not matter. : ) Cheer up, how long are we here for. You all ought to be a positive leader, lead by example; that's what I say!

  • lol your funny . follow your own advise

  • I believe it's spelled ADVICE. Wizard - not so much

  • MW, you assume too much about me. I have talked to soldiers that are there. Any good that we could have done or even started to do in 2003 has been undone by 3 years of incompetence, too few troops, and underestimation of the sectarian situation.

    The point of my comment was that Cheney knew full well and predicted the consequences of our invasion. He just didn't fucking care.

  • I'm sure Cheney cared...about the rising oil prices thanks to the Iraq invasion.

  • Oh yeah, I left corruption off my list of reasons why we haven't done any good there. That's a biggie.

  • Is this what all the left wingers are doing when there not protesting the troops?

  • Is this what the right-wingers are doing when they're not cutting benefits for veterans?

  • Do you believe that on every vote it's only republicans voting for these measures.I believe the lefties have control these days, and it's a 11% approval.You fell for voting the left in office and look where it's gotten ya,a war that they don't have the balls to defund, pretty soon, you'll be paying higher taxes. If they defund it, they will actaully have to put something on the table, we'll see how far they get when ol achbab has a wick hanging out of his sandals at the table.

  • Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but the Dems have expanded veterans benefits since they took over Congress.

  • Your the one that made the comment about cutting benefits, and if you believe there the only ones doing anything, your wrong.I'm still waiting for the solutions from the democrats for what the plan is. I mean what are they gonna do.I do believe hillary and the others voted for the war also.And whats the answer why your political leaders don't defund the war, then they'll have to come home, won't they?

  • I brought up that Republicans cut benefits, which they did. And many of them voted against the better benefits that the Dems passed this year (not all, of course - as these votes can be used against them in campaigns). The Dems have plans, you just haven't bothered to read them. Hell, Murtha had a plan back in 2005 that was very similar to the Baker-Hamilton plan last year.

  • What plan, the cut and run plan?Why don't you fill me in on these "plans".The only thing i keep hearing is," we'll talk to them".How in the hell are you gonna talk to the terrorists when the guy your talking to has a wick comming out of his shoe.

  • The plan was redeployment of most combat forces, and a regional over-the-horizon force of marines for quick response to anything major. How many more Americans have died in the 2 years since Murtha made his plan public? And the situation on the ground is worse actually - violence is up, casualties up, IEDs, suicide bombing, sectarian attacks are all up. Meanwhile, electricity supply is down, employment down, no political agreements made. Tell me what staying these past 2 years has accomplished?

  • Redeployment, yea thats what i said, cut and run.Isn't that what redeployment is?What happens when we stroll out of there after what has been done.I agree the war was not handled properly, but what now, walk away, sorry guys, have to go now.If you think theres alot of killing now, brace yourself for when we walk out of there.

  • Tell me honestly what has been accomplished in the 2 years since Murtha first proposed redeployment - other then 1000+ more dead Americans?

    ANY tangible improvement on the ground? NO, everything is worse off in Iraq than it was in 2005.

  • Everything is worse off says who?Hillary, edwards ,Obama,ol ted kennedy.Some of the top brass has their own kids in that battle, do you really believe they'd put their own children in there knowing it was a losing battle.You must watch cnn, cause their always on the negative no matter what happens.When the U.S. pulls out and theres a couple hundred thousand people laying dead , i'm gonna come back and hear what your gonna say.

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