@DROPtreBOMBS07 REALLY IF this were a WHITE MAN that Paddled a BLACK Girl the SHIT would hit the FAN PAL!. I'm so SICK Of hearing about How Blacks are being treated SO BAD WAH WAH WAH>>, BUT a Black Male Spanked my daughter me and that Knee GROW would be squaring OFF!
You are one sick puppy. I went to your page, Obama's picture on the confederate flag. Are you out of your mind? If a child acts out they may need a spanking. I got my share as a child. I got them at home and at school. I guess that may be a southern thing. My mother had 5 children she brought up by herself. She would make us break a limb off a tree and if it broke we had to get another one. My 3 sisters and my brother are now good citizens thanks to that little dutch woman we called Mama.
Sing it, sister! Haters will be haters, but everyone knows racism is still alive, and well in America. We need look no further than the comments on this video for proof of that.
Oh, puhleeeeez..it's the brainwashing of the kids that does the damage.."ur being discriminated against honey, because you're different..." whatever..I was spanked and I'm not weeping over it.
You loose any moral high or rational ground when you attempt to use racial fears as way of stopping a practice. If paddling is wrong, then you appeal to the fact that it is wrong - explaining why if you have to. You don't appeal to some fear of black teachers paddling your daughters in some lame attempt to make people more outragged. If more whites where paddled than blacks, would that make paddling acceptable? If more blacks get detentions does that make detentions wrong?
@streethustla34 what I dont get is if a white couple has a baby in Nigeria or some African state.....then move to America... would their child be an African American too if he has Dual citizenship for Africa and America?
@paulaflowe You didn't need to put in black and white. Why is it that most people over 30, wait over 25 find the need to put RACE in everything!!? Not everyone over 25, just a good amount! Let that shit go. The past is the past.
I hate when freaking black people talk about how they are being judged..and talk about wanting to be treated equal..but they disscriminate white people! They get all the benifits in the damn country. It really pisses me off. My best friend is black and she is awsome, like she also hates freaking african american complaners..come on people get a life and move on, its not like im forcing you to pick cotton in my front yard.
@ericzackandtony Unfortunately statistics show that black males get this form of punishment the most and their is not evidence that black males misbehave more often their white counterparts Google A Violent Education or State actors beating children.
Looks like Paula's side is supported by reality, looks like she wins.
i agree that nobody should be hit but itscnot just black girls being paddled its also white girls. and alot of people think this should be band but the stupid teachers wont stop because ive never heard of a boy being paddled but ive heard numerous stories of girls being paddled. this isnt right and its got to STOP !
The Kids are little bastards, the teachers are even worse. New corporal punishment policy. If ANY pupil misbehaves the ENTIRE school (including teachers) gets SHOT.
This way all problems are solved permanently. WHY are you not thinking of these methods for yourself?
If those white girls earned it then good for the black male teachers! Bad students should be punished regardless of their race or gender and teachers should be able to punish them regardless of theirs. I'm white by the way, if for some strange reason that matters to you in today's society.
Every white girl needs her caboose spanked. I spank as many white girls as I can....their naughty little tush right over my knee...and a fee black girls too, cos they can be naughty too. Especially if they have a cute butt. In fact, the cutter the butt te naughtier the girl therefore the cuter the butt the mire likely she us to get spanked ;-) lol
@DROPtreBOMBS07 You say not all black people. In my opinion you're still a racist.. Just because a black person talks about an issue that has something to do with their race. You think they are whinning. Shut up. Nothing is wrong with talking about an issue.
@a999op It is not an issue. Paddling is illegal and has been since thr 1960's. If a student is being paddled, not a "black student" not a "white student" just a student, then the authorities should be notified of the abuse and the school should be put under inspection. Do your research. Please explain how I am a racist by the way? Is it because I brought up an issue against this colored woman?
@DROPtreBOMBS07 Just because you have perfect grammar it doesn't make you smart. You didn't even know people still paddled. Calling me a racist? I'm black. You can't be racist against your own race. It's called self hatred because you hate people in your race and yourself.
@DROPtreBOMBS07 You are dumb. You don't get my point. If someone think something is an issue well they should speak up. It's like how violence is an issue. So you're saying saying violence isn't an issue because it's against the law. Think again.
@DROPtreBOMBS07 I bet you didn't even watch the damb video. Some white people are so dumb they think racism doesn't exist towards the black community. They think their the victims. The white people are the whiners, What do you think what you are doing now? You're whinning. Shut the fuck up. Race is still an issue and you don't want to accept that. You fuck up racist and that's exactly what you are a racist. You are a racist. Dummy. Racist. Don't watch the video. She seems educated.
@a999op You are by far the most ignorant idiot I have ever had the mis-pleasure of dealing with. Fix up your grammar. I have plenty of Black, Puerto Rican, Asian, Indian, and even Middle Eastern friends. You are the racist one for seeing the color before the person. How do you know I'm white? I might be black, but you are just stereotyping against me because I have a different point of view. Racism exists for all races. Not just blacks. I did watch the whole video, maybe you should.
This video is discriminating against "The rich white children". What makes you think white children get treated any other way? There hasn't been paddling for years and years and years. And if a child is getting paddled, guess what? Take it up with local authoritys or go to a different school. Simple as that.
@DROPtreBOMBS07 It's not that simple. When if the local authority agrees on it you're so dumb. And if you're black you are dumb. And I don't care if you're friends with a lot of people of different races. I still think you are racist. And have you watch the news. Paddling still goes on today.
@a999op Find me one news story about paddleing in the past 10 years. Where re your facts? If I'm black I'm dumb? You sound like a racist to me. You are an idiot.
@DROPtreBOMBS07 You screw up my words. If you're black and you don't understand racism. You're stupid and very dumb. And you don't have perfect grammar. And I don't care about my grammar just because I don't use big word that doesn't mean anything.
@a999op I do have perfect grammar, and why if I were black would it make me dumb if I didn't understand racism, maybe I just didn't want to understand it. You need to stop calling me dumb because I am about one hundred times smarter than you will ever be. How old are you? Judging by the way u act I'd say about 12?
@a999op Read over that post "You didn't even how old I was" That makes no sense. I am done wasting my time on you, you ignorant no good piece of shit dumbass. And that is because you are an idiot not because of the color of your skin. Racism is dumb, no one should be treated differently for the color of thier skin, but people take that to far and think every little thing that happens to them is racially motivated, when most of it is not.
@DROPtreBOMBS07 I'm not a grammar snob like you. I don't worry about my grammar. I'm typing fast anyway. And do not call me an ignorant no good piece of shit. I already know I'm ignorant Do you know you're ignorant? Because only an ignorant person will ever swear and call someone a piece of shit. Like I said I know I'm ignorant.
@a999op You are obviously ignorant beyond belief. Did you even take the time to read and try to understand what I put? Probably not. You are what give people who believe what she is saying a bad name. You will probably come back with "Fuck you!" Or something really smart like that. Moron.
Once again I clearly see the results of the ruling class elite's tactics of divide and concur.
You list groups and so does the responder. The exposure of the ruling class elite and their agenda to destroy and enslave all of man kind is where the battle waits. Until the talented ordinary people aim their energies in that direction we will continue to live with the polarizing effects of their tactics, and the secret societies Illuminati and so on will win and enslave us all
Well, I don't know if what you are saying is true, but I do know one thing. Teacher's shouldn't be allowed to hit anybody! They can overuse their power. And what if a pervert teacher comes to the school? Well have a nice day.
I think it is because there are more black males that break the law :/. Who is to say that more black kids don't break rules in those areas? It's possible right? And I think pattling is stupid by the way, I don't care if there black or white. But don't play the race card, it won't make anyone respect you except for blacks and Hispanics. If you made it an issue for all children, then maybe more people would support your cause.
:/ See, you made this quite inflamitory. I'm not going to be rude, but giving that situation with whtie girls inflames a lot of people. White people are easily offended when it comes to racism, so it is not good to target them with it. I think that there are more minorities that are racist then there are still white people. I mean, think about it, the "White Man" gave minorities equal rights... They must be racist!!!
That's not true. In fact, we percieve black children as trouble makers because we hold some unconcious biases against them. This is also reenforced by how the media precieved blacks or any minority for that matter. Blacks have many kids, mexicans are promiscuous, etc. It's clear to see these steriotypes in the media.
@generalcrash777 now i suppose you will say that the media isn't controled by the people with money and power, that the reason so much negative attention is put on minorities because were so horrible...They have an agenda and people miss it because they're easily let astray. Missinformation and outright lies. Not all the media reports are biased but the population is controlled threw media.
African-american boys are hit more because they lack discipline and order in their lives. Why? Because there is NO father in the home to discipline them when they get out of line.
If it was black men spanking white girls, the white girls would love it and would probably "get in trouble" on purpose just to get spanked. White school girls are slutty.
You seem to have a very screwed view on what white people think. I don't know why you think white people think it's more heartbreaking to see a white girl get paddled than a black girl. That's not the case. It's EQUALLY heartbreaking to see ANY child get paddled. You seriously need to get these ideas out of your head. It's 2010, not 1963.
Teachers hitting students is wrong PERIOD! There's NO reason to bring race into it. Whether you're black or white...it's ALWAYS wrong.
Let me ask you, where do you get your scientific merit to support corporal punishment?
Let me back up what was told to you earlier. Why is it that the states with the highest corporal punishment rates have the highest crime, teen pregnanc rates. Also the highest rates of domestic violence and drop out rate? Can you please elighten me? One more thing, how was corporal punishment suppose to help Mitchel Johnson. Look up what happened to him, corporal punishment worked there, didn't it?
90% of inmates in US jails had corporal punishment during their life, out of that 90% Texas, 73% reported both being hit at school as well as at home!....fact!
Top 10 public schools in the US have NO Corporal Punishment at all....and the highest graduation rate.
The States with the Highest Corporal Punishment rate(s) ALSO have the highest teen pregnancy rate, highest CRIME rate and the highest Drop out rate! Were they not hitting the kids hard enough TEXAS?
What bible are you reading?I've never actually seen those things in the bible about hate but yet people speak of it all the time.Can you please tell me what bible and what chapter and verse so I can see for myself.
The ingrained racism is inherent in spanking. People really do believe that if you beat on a black boy, he will learn his place better, and gawd forbid he doesn't know it. (sarcasm intended). The black man still has to follow the unwritten rules like: You have to dress as well, and preferably better than any white man if you want to even get a decent job. You have to say yes sir and yes ma'am more. You can't be as familiar to white women in a corporate setting as white men, etc.
I just last night watched a documentary from 1965 called a time for burning. It was wonderful. It showed the racism that was so ingrained in the white Omaha church, that they just couldn't handle the very tiny suggestion that some of their members voluntarily go talk to some black people. They put pressure on the preacher until he resigned. We are a long way from this now, but we are not all the way. If you watch it, also watch the extras which include an interview u can't miss.
Please forgive me for attracting this smashingCRAP loser on here. He is a mad American. He burns flags and states that he is glad Canadian Soldiers are dying in Afghanistan, pretty much spitting in the face of all Veterans.
Every child deserves the SAME right to protection as an Adult, if not more, and to hit a child with a board is Assault, the same as it would be for an Adult.
Omar, tell me, why is it that the State with the largest C.P rate also has the highest crime rate?
Well, when you were ask to prove your point, you completely ignored my questions and discredited scientific data that I have been able to produce. I will give you one more chance, produce 1 piece of peer reviewed scientific data that proves that corporal punishment is not harmful. You heard me, I just want 1. Since you also teach, you can also give me the school and professor that told you the proper way to paddle or that corporal punishment is effective.
The Obama children would never very likely be treated the same as any other child because they are the President's daughters. It matters not that they are African American.
Thank you for proving my point. School Corporal punishment is classist. The Obama children wouldn't be treated this way because they are the president's children, but Little Johny in Alabama, who's parents are uneducated and poor should get whipped?
You said that corporal punishment works, but the Obama children shouldn't be treated in that way, they are surely missing out on something good for them?
Hey Omar, feel free to throw some questions at me, and perhaps without just saying i am stupid?>:?
And tell me this Omar, Courtney Biggers is in kindergarten at Fairlane Elementary in Lafayette. She is 5 years old, paddled twice in one day. Her crime? She was barking like a dog in the school cafeteria!!
She is now afraid of teachers and is in counselling because of the ASSAULT.
How was it Corporal Punishment helped her again omar??
Not to be rude, but Courtney would have been better off if she was a dog, because if a teacher struck a dog, that teacher would be arested and brought to justice. But if it is a child and the adult who struck him/her was a teacher, well, people sweep it underground and make excuses about why that child was battered up.
Hey omar, where do you draw the line between 'hurt' and 'injure' when hitting a child?
The whole idea behind hitting is to hurt right? Do all teachers know what is going on in that childs life before hitting them? Abuse at home? Depression? ADD, Autism...hmm?
You know, when I was in school there was no such thing as ADD or ADHD. I do not agree that children should be spanked so hard by a teacher that they are bruised by the paddle. That was never done to me and I know of no one else who suffered bruising on their buttocks as the result of a teacher hitting them with a paddle. There are people who overdo it and they shouldn't be paddling kids if they tend to overdo it.
That's just the beginning. Paula, maker of this video has met a man who was paddled and he felt something funny in his privates. Like a burning sensation and guess what. He is 40 & currently sterile. No children for that men. We also heard of someone who is paralyzed from the waste down after a paddling, a little 12 year old and currently, the parents are meeting resistance as they are seeking justice for there child. Finally, go to nospank. net and type in injuredkids
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Oh so now you are a clinical doctor and have come to the fact that there was no such thing as ADD or ADHD back in your days? Where is this fact from, i would love to read about it??
Hey Omar, should the Obama children be hit by a teacher for being bad? I DARE say not! Secret service just may have something to say about a person coming at them with a 3 ft board!
You are appalled? Holy shit omar, dont know who you THINK you are, but picking up a board and hitting a child is NEVER ever, right!
Btw omar, tell me, what 'credible' teaching college instructs its undergradutates how to hit kids with boards? SURELY they teach them how to hit a child properly dont they?
Oh, you mean like the little boy who recently shot dead his father after being spanked 1000 x's. I guess that will never happpen again eh???
I will tell you Mr omar know it all, i no longer have a freind for the simple fact he was spanked by his oh so loving parents. Until the day they hit him to hard, and put him over the edge. I guess the spanking police were not there to make sure he was ok right?
Sorry for the slip up. I actually, graduated high school in the top 75th percentile & top 200 out of the 700 who graduated in my class. Guess what, it was in California, a no paddling state. Whenever I made a mistake, I was spoken to, mentored, and shown respect. What you are advocating for is to treat kids with the upmost disrespect. If you don't think that hitting is disrespectful, let's see how you like it when you are spanked when you are late for work, but students can get hit for that.
to prove your point by producing one piece of scientific literature that is peer reviewed, you did not only answer my question, but ignored it altogether. So I'll give you another chance, as an educated person, prove to me that corporal punishment is effective, to support your claim please give me reference to a peer reviewed article. As well as the school that educated you on the proper way to administer cp or that corporal punishment is effecttive. Please include school, professors' names, etc
Funny, Paula, the maker of this video has been teaching in this country for 30 years, not once did she ever think of coming with someone with a 2 by 4 with a board attached, most commonly known as a paddle.
Since you are a teacher, you can shed some light. Can you please name the school that taught you or educated you on the proper way to administer corporal punishment or that corporal punishment is a effective way to discipline students because when you were given the chance
Again, I think this woman's assertion of "what would you think if black male teachers paddled white girls?" is ludicrous. I had a black male teacher in junior high who paddled 5 boys for not doing their homework one day (one swat each). There were girls who didn't do their homework, but he gave them detentions instead. Race didn't matter in that case and it shouldn't now. People pulling the race card is getting old already.
I don't see where your story of a black male teacher spanking 5 boys and of the girls who didn't get spanked for not bringing in there homework connect here.
How does your story relate to the fact that if a black male teacher had a 16 year old white girl posture her buttocks before him while she held on to the back of his chair as he spanked her, relate to the fact that this scenario would result in his being lynched?
Of course you bleeding heart liberal idiots will never see the connection to anything a conservative Christian (whom I might add is NOT a Fundamentalist Christian, but a non-denominational Christian with Apostolic beliefs) would say on the matter. Like I said below, the people here who are narrow minded are those who don't want to believe that any good can come from corporal punishment. I am a substitute teacher and I have seen bad children in action and the parents don't care.
The parents don't care if their kids go to school and steal from their teacher and they don't do anything about it. When a parent does discipline their kid (and rightfully so), if bruises are left, the school is obligated to report it if the bruises are displayed for the school officials. What the heck ever happened to the social services people keeping their noses out of other people's business unless there is a serious danger of injury to the child? My grandfather on my mom's side was abusive
In one of your comments below, you ref. from Proverbs. The OT is not in effect any longer and when it was it was directed at the Jews, so God was not speaking to you though reading it allows you to know his wishes prior to the NT.
Second of all, there is no such thing as "bad children."
Thirdly, are you a Christian? Is there a scripture that says its okay to call someone names like "idiot?"
The people who are narrow minded are those who don't want to listen to the positive side of corporal punishment because they believe that it is all bad, and no good can come from it. I'm telling you, elementary school kids would behave more appropriately and not try to run amok if there was even the legitimate threat of a swat or two on the bottom with a paddle. Suspension is like giving them a vacation from school, which is what kids want. It's not about what kids want. It's what they need.
It seems funny that you would accuse everyone that looks at scientific data and dismiss it for "Spear the rod, spoil the child," as ignorant. This quote is not even written in scripture, it's a saying. It came from a poem that read, "Spear the rod, spoil the WILD!"
Positive side of corporal punishment:
I challenge you to find 1 peer review scientific journal article that supports paddling. You heard me, just 1. Good thing in the 21st century we have many tools to discipline
When I was in school and corporal punishment was used, there was never a "spanking fest." Most kids feared the paddle and respected authority, and it wasn't used primarily on black or Hispanic students, and I live in a community where such students make up more than 25% of the student population. Like I said before...since paddling has been abolished here, the kids know there is no real punishment, so they run amok. They could give two craps less about suspensions...which are also unnecessary.
Thanks for proving my point. Did you obey because it was the right thing or in fear of getting hit? If it is the latter, let me tell you, this society is in big trouble.
Who's going to paddle them at work, their boss? Spouse? Their doctor?
This is a little tip, I would get the same results if I didn't show a paddle, but a loaded gun and said the exact same thing.
It sounds like you didn't answer my questions, let me rephrase it for you.
Why are minorities, boys, and kids with disabilities paddled more often then their counterparts? (A Violent Education, August 20, 2008.)
2. What teachers college trains it's future teachers on the right way to paddle students?
3. Why does corporal punishment hold no merit in the scientific community? Why do an overwhelming majority of developmental scientist, psychologist, and medical doctors against its use?
It sounds like you are an ignorant person who does not believe in God or the Bible. The Bible is the basis of a lot of the belief in this country that corporal punishment is supposed to be administered to children who misbehave and need correction. Of course, some people take the scripture from Proverbs that tells them they shall beat their child with the rod to the extreme, which is not good, but it does say that and means exactly what it says. God inspired the scriptures in the Bible.
This how a spanker responds, accuse anyone against their spanking ways of being an atheist. Quit commiting the mortal sin of judging. Let me challenge you, since we live in New testiment days, do you think Jesus would beat any of the sheep in his care or would he guide them, aid them, keep together and protect. Jesus taught kindness and encourage us to respect the inocence of childhood. Also, Paul made it clear between coming at someone with a rod and showing someone love.
No one is judging anyone here or calling them an atheist. You are putting words in other people's mouths which are not present. Which is the same as bearing false witness against your neighbor...also against the Ten Commandments.
Uh...I'm an atheist, cannot find a belief in God or in the Bible which I know is man-made. It includes passages telling us it's okay to beat your kids, have slaves, stone women to death, and says being a homosexual and eating shrimp are abominations....and I believe spanking is wrong. I work with the kids that been thrown away by our society, Delinquents, abused kids, foster kids, etc in a shelter. The more kids are abused -the more they act out and hit back. I see it first-hand every day.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Dont forget letmebfrank....you are suppose to be out 'stoning to death homosexuals'...just like it says in the Bible....or are you picking and choosing again?
yes i 100% agree but that does not mean that every scripture can stand on its own. one must read all scripture before comming to a conclusion on any one topic.
your understanding of the bible is very close to many christians but i must say that the Bible is a progression in thought, with many laws and traditions being done away with over a period of time. many of these practices were merely stepping stones thru the history of mans evolving into christianity. through it all the conclusion is love. God is love , love is the fulfilling of the law. accept jesus and live in love and stop trying to live as they did thousands of years ago.
Please take time to read the first five pages of the recent ACLU and GAO reports, at the very least, linked at The Hitting Stops Here Dot Comm. These reports cite numerous widespread cases of not only abuse but fatalities occurring in U S schools.
Then, please join us in bringing this institutionalized racism and assault and battery to our American school children to an end.
Finally, why do the states with the highest paddling rate have the highest crime rate, dropout rate, and highest levels of domestic violence?
We don't need your little story about corporal punishment to prove it's benifits or harm, we have something called behavioral psychology and the scientific method.
Also, saying suspension and paddling are the only forms of discipline demonstrates your narrow mindedness. Google this:
We don't need people like you who are bleeding heart liberals trying to convince people like me who believe in "spare the rod, spoil the child" that corporal punishment is harmful to kids, when if it is done in love and never in anger, it is not detrimental to children's well-being. Only a small percentage of people ever go overboard with spanking or paddling. Not every person who spanks, whips or paddles their child should be reported to the children's services department.
First of all, this is not a liberal issue at all. It's an American issue & human rights issue. Suppose kids weren't the issue, but wife beating was. Would you call me a liberal if I wanted to support women from being beaten by their husbands? How about animal beating, would you also call me a liberal for supporting the ethical treatment of animals? This can also go for the elderly, prisoners, and soldiers. Why is it that kids are a different story compared to the titles above?
Im from UK, I dont see why it has to be a race issue, it could be more about other things like culture / tradition in different areas and so on. There are probably some mainly white schools that still practice it too.
But I do agree that spanking is not a good form of punishment and should be stopped at all schools.
Anytime a possibilityexists of such things, it needs to stop. We have all heard of "mean" teachers, racist teachers, just as we have heard of fine teachers. If racist teachers exist then swinging a paddle should not be lawful in
No matter what issue we have to make it, as long as it stops...
All who paddle should have their pictures in the paper so we know who hits our kids... make their names public then! Go to a school with a video camera and put footage of them on YouTube!
I think your assertion that paddling is racially motivated is ludicrous. The problem in the classrooms in states where corporal punishment has been outlawed is that children tend to run amok and do whatever they please because they know that with no corporal punishment, there are no real consequences for their bad behavior. When teachers were able to temporarily stop class and remove the disruptive child long enough to administer a "swat" with the paddle, they had more control of the classroom.
Yes it is, ACLU and Human Rights Watch report, "A violent Education" dated August 20, 2008. Blacks are 3 times likely to be beaten by school staff than whites. Can you explain that? Also, why are native Americans and lintinos 2 times likely to be paddled than whites? Also, why are special Needs students paddled at twice the rate as students in regular education classes. Can you explain that?
Also, why do the states with they highest rates of corporal punishment have the highest dropout rate, crime rate and higher rates in domestic violence?
Why isn't proper corporal punishment techniques taught in college to its future teachers?
Paddling being effective:
Not if you are paying attention to science. The debate on corporal punishment is dead in the psychological community and medical community. It doesn't work. There are other ways to train a child without having a spanking fest.
Do you know how ignorant you sound? Please explain why I know blacks who are the brightest people you're ever going to meet. Why are their black professors at my school, think about what you say before you comment. Like I said, it makes you look ignorant. Just to let you know, I'm not white and I graduated high school in the top 3rd in my class. Why did my friend who is not white too and he graduated 1st in our class. Keep your bigotry to yourself.
Thank you for writing. Your comment helps responsible, caring adults of all races see how badly our children need to be taught love and wisdom if we want to end racism and inequality in this country.
The good news is that racists are getting to be more of the minority in this country and that's something the USA can finally be proud of.
miss flowe, are you single, i find you very attractive, and wuold like to check you out in person. please send me your number, and i'll give you a call.
Right now I need you to join me as an activist to get these children safe. Are you willing to help this cause? After they are safe, join me in partying like it's1999 with great joy! LOL
Ms. Flowe, I actually emailed Oprah about your campaign and I directed her to you. I hope she can write back so you can raise awareness about the issue because I feel people are just uneducated about it and do not know it's still going on. Let me tell you, it's an honor working with you and I hope we can get this practice banned once and for all!
In psychology it is the modeling theory, this means children can model certain behaviors by observing others perform the same behavior. One of the great examples is the Bobo doll experiment where a group of kids saw another kid hitting the bobo doll with a bat and when they got into the playroom, they follow what the kid in the video did. So, let's let's take it to corporal punishment, if children observe adults hitting them, it is safe to assume that they will model that same behavior.
I know of a person in jail for abusing their parrot! I have a lawyer in Wash DC ready to take on the first Title IX case. Girls are unaware that they can use this law for protection. Help me spread the word. If anyone knows of a girl paddled and is willing to inform her and direct her to me, like I said, I have a lawyer standing by. Her case will be the "Rosa Parks" case in paddling discrimination. Hope you will help me with one, GC777.
actually bring them closer together. Teachers of all people are the best ones to model these choices. It's rare to find someone in prison who was not beaten as a child. Those statistics are available. If hitting works, I think we could shut down the prisons, since hitting makes one "turn out okay."
If a survey was done of the 2 million prisoners in American jails and prisons the majority would probably say they were hit as kids by their parents or in school so clearly its not the solution
There are european countries which have total bans on spanking/hitting (even by parents) yet manage to have a more civilized society than in the USA or here in Britain
recently in the UK we have seen major reforms banning all corporal punishment in schools and stopping parents using weapons to hit kids
No more spanking of minors, it should be used on adults as an alternative to jail time for minor offesnses.
rhinohippo 1 month ago
someone hit my kid....no cops would be called...I would instantly be the "owner" of someone.
shawnbrennan1 3 months ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 REALLY IF this were a WHITE MAN that Paddled a BLACK Girl the SHIT would hit the FAN PAL!. I'm so SICK Of hearing about How Blacks are being treated SO BAD WAH WAH WAH>>, BUT a Black Male Spanked my daughter me and that Knee GROW would be squaring OFF!
2bwhiteproud 5 months ago
You are one sick puppy. I went to your page, Obama's picture on the confederate flag. Are you out of your mind? If a child acts out they may need a spanking. I got my share as a child. I got them at home and at school. I guess that may be a southern thing. My mother had 5 children she brought up by herself. She would make us break a limb off a tree and if it broke we had to get another one. My 3 sisters and my brother are now good citizens thanks to that little dutch woman we called Mama.
torrents4u2c 7 months ago
Oh my dear Lord....nothing but excuses....TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR YOUR MISTAKES!! DON'T BLAME THE WHITE PEOPLE!!!!
scottishmichael09 7 months ago
Sing it, sister! Haters will be haters, but everyone knows racism is still alive, and well in America. We need look no further than the comments on this video for proof of that.
0228katie 7 months ago
Oh, puhleeeeez..it's the brainwashing of the kids that does the damage.."ur being discriminated against honey, because you're different..." whatever..I was spanked and I'm not weeping over it.
1986TruthSeeker 8 months ago
2:03 how come the Rich white kids dont get them. Hummm
2:33 then she says she dont know if the Rich white childreen....
I think you are playing the Race card. OH black get spanked more.
Prove it. show me a servay. Im not going to take your word for it.
all you did was talk talk talk and Rich white kids...
buttom line is you dont like Rich White people. and your comments are Racist by its self.
nice try i seen thougth what you where trying to do.. (play the race card)
NRATodd 8 months ago
You loose any moral high or rational ground when you attempt to use racial fears as way of stopping a practice. If paddling is wrong, then you appeal to the fact that it is wrong - explaining why if you have to. You don't appeal to some fear of black teachers paddling your daughters in some lame attempt to make people more outragged. If more whites where paddled than blacks, would that make paddling acceptable? If more blacks get detentions does that make detentions wrong?
BW022 8 months ago
@streethustla34 what I dont get is if a white couple has a baby in Nigeria or some African state.....then move to America... would their child be an African American too if he has Dual citizenship for Africa and America?
nickwalco 8 months ago
@paulaflowe You didn't need to put in black and white. Why is it that most people over 30, wait over 25 find the need to put RACE in everything!!? Not everyone over 25, just a good amount! Let that shit go. The past is the past.
SuprSlowMo 8 months ago
I hate when freaking black people talk about how they are being judged..and talk about wanting to be treated equal..but they disscriminate white people! They get all the benifits in the damn country. It really pisses me off. My best friend is black and she is awsome, like she also hates freaking african american complaners..come on people get a life and move on, its not like im forcing you to pick cotton in my front yard.
livelaughlove79318 8 months ago
This woman is a racist.
And ugly.
Idontlikenamesman 9 months ago 2
lol cute lady, but what is she talking about?
AirForceGirl05 9 months ago
Stop crying you black cotton pickin nigger. FUCK YOU.
Schlabaugh43 10 months ago 2
I love you Paula, keep up the vids!
helllspell 11 months ago
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helllspell 11 months ago
This is stupid pepole don't woop enough ass,that's why things are the way they are wtf! and that was fucked up to say about black males!
TheMainemotors 1 year ago
It's not only black boys spanked dumbass
ericzackandtony 1 year ago 2
@ericzackandtony Unfortunately statistics show that black males get this form of punishment the most and their is not evidence that black males misbehave more often their white counterparts Google A Violent Education or State actors beating children.
Looks like Paula's side is supported by reality, looks like she wins.
generalcrash777 1 year ago
i agree that nobody should be hit but itscnot just black girls being paddled its also white girls. and alot of people think this should be band but the stupid teachers wont stop because ive never heard of a boy being paddled but ive heard numerous stories of girls being paddled. this isnt right and its got to STOP !
ashleymiichelle98 1 year ago
The Kids are little bastards, the teachers are even worse. New corporal punishment policy. If ANY pupil misbehaves the ENTIRE school (including teachers) gets SHOT.
This way all problems are solved permanently. WHY are you not thinking of these methods for yourself?
thewabbiteer 1 year ago
This lady's dumb
OfficalRedPanther500 1 year ago
If those white girls earned it then good for the black male teachers! Bad students should be punished regardless of their race or gender and teachers should be able to punish them regardless of theirs. I'm white by the way, if for some strange reason that matters to you in today's society.
JHorcock1 1 year ago 2
this woman is racist. if a white person in the UK said what she said about black people , they would be prosecuted
This woman is full of hate.
flan453 1 year ago
'people who cant speak up for themselves ..'
Why not ? Are black parents less able to articulate than white ?
Why is everything about racism ? Maybe this is about class envy and reverse racism.
flan453 1 year ago
Every white girl needs her caboose spanked. I spank as many white girls as I can....their naughty little tush right over my knee...and a fee black girls too, cos they can be naughty too. Especially if they have a cute butt. In fact, the cutter the butt te naughtier the girl therefore the cuter the butt the mire likely she us to get spanked ;-) lol
shalom1973 1 year ago 2
@shalom1973 I agree because this is very sound and objective logic.
CrossnNail 6 months ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 You say not all black people. In my opinion you're still a racist.. Just because a black person talks about an issue that has something to do with their race. You think they are whinning. Shut up. Nothing is wrong with talking about an issue.
a999op 1 year ago
@a999op It is not an issue. Paddling is illegal and has been since thr 1960's. If a student is being paddled, not a "black student" not a "white student" just a student, then the authorities should be notified of the abuse and the school should be put under inspection. Do your research. Please explain how I am a racist by the way? Is it because I brought up an issue against this colored woman?
DROPtreBOMBS07 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 You are still stupid. People still paddle in some states. You are so dumb or you just didn't know.
a999op 1 year ago
@a999op Yeah I'm the dumb one speaking with perfect grammar, and you are the smart one who uses 5th grade grammar right?
DROPtreBOMBS07 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 Just because you have perfect grammar it doesn't make you smart. You didn't even know people still paddled. Calling me a racist? I'm black. You can't be racist against your own race. It's called self hatred because you hate people in your race and yourself.
a999op 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 You are dumb. You don't get my point. If someone think something is an issue well they should speak up. It's like how violence is an issue. So you're saying saying violence isn't an issue because it's against the law. Think again.
a999op 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 I bet you didn't even watch the damb video. Some white people are so dumb they think racism doesn't exist towards the black community. They think their the victims. The white people are the whiners, What do you think what you are doing now? You're whinning. Shut the fuck up. Race is still an issue and you don't want to accept that. You fuck up racist and that's exactly what you are a racist. You are a racist. Dummy. Racist. Don't watch the video. She seems educated.
a999op 1 year ago
@a999op You are by far the most ignorant idiot I have ever had the mis-pleasure of dealing with. Fix up your grammar. I have plenty of Black, Puerto Rican, Asian, Indian, and even Middle Eastern friends. You are the racist one for seeing the color before the person. How do you know I'm white? I might be black, but you are just stereotyping against me because I have a different point of view. Racism exists for all races. Not just blacks. I did watch the whole video, maybe you should.
DROPtreBOMBS07 1 year ago
This video is discriminating against "The rich white children". What makes you think white children get treated any other way? There hasn't been paddling for years and years and years. And if a child is getting paddled, guess what? Take it up with local authoritys or go to a different school. Simple as that.
DROPtreBOMBS07 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 It's not that simple. When if the local authority agrees on it you're so dumb. And if you're black you are dumb. And I don't care if you're friends with a lot of people of different races. I still think you are racist. And have you watch the news. Paddling still goes on today.
a999op 1 year ago
@a999op Find me one news story about paddleing in the past 10 years. Where re your facts? If I'm black I'm dumb? You sound like a racist to me. You are an idiot.
DROPtreBOMBS07 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 You screw up my words. If you're black and you don't understand racism. You're stupid and very dumb. And you don't have perfect grammar. And I don't care about my grammar just because I don't use big word that doesn't mean anything.
a999op 1 year ago
@a999op I do have perfect grammar, and why if I were black would it make me dumb if I didn't understand racism, maybe I just didn't want to understand it. You need to stop calling me dumb because I am about one hundred times smarter than you will ever be. How old are you? Judging by the way u act I'd say about 12?
DROPtreBOMBS07 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 17 year old act this way. I'm 17 and I still think you are dumb. You didn't even how old I was. Which is not surprising.
a999op 1 year ago
@a999op Read over that post "You didn't even how old I was" That makes no sense. I am done wasting my time on you, you ignorant no good piece of shit dumbass. And that is because you are an idiot not because of the color of your skin. Racism is dumb, no one should be treated differently for the color of thier skin, but people take that to far and think every little thing that happens to them is racially motivated, when most of it is not.
DROPtreBOMBS07 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 I'm not a grammar snob like you. I don't worry about my grammar. I'm typing fast anyway. And do not call me an ignorant no good piece of shit. I already know I'm ignorant Do you know you're ignorant? Because only an ignorant person will ever swear and call someone a piece of shit. Like I said I know I'm ignorant.
a999op 1 year ago
@DROPtreBOMBS07 She's not complaining dumbass. You racist cunt.
a999op 1 year ago
@a999op You are obviously ignorant beyond belief. Did you even take the time to read and try to understand what I put? Probably not. You are what give people who believe what she is saying a bad name. You will probably come back with "Fuck you!" Or something really smart like that. Moron.
DROPtreBOMBS07 1 year ago
Grace to you.
Once again I clearly see the results of the ruling class elite's tactics of divide and concur.
You list groups and so does the responder. The exposure of the ruling class elite and their agenda to destroy and enslave all of man kind is where the battle waits. Until the talented ordinary people aim their energies in that direction we will continue to live with the polarizing effects of their tactics, and the secret societies Illuminati and so on will win and enslave us all
Peace.
shiekaa 1 year ago
For goodness sake woman belt up! Your just another interfering nag! Trying to make a name for yourself
cliff01x 1 year ago
Well, I don't know if what you are saying is true, but I do know one thing. Teacher's shouldn't be allowed to hit anybody! They can overuse their power. And what if a pervert teacher comes to the school? Well have a nice day.
mickey3348 1 year ago
I think it is because there are more black males that break the law :/. Who is to say that more black kids don't break rules in those areas? It's possible right? And I think pattling is stupid by the way, I don't care if there black or white. But don't play the race card, it won't make anyone respect you except for blacks and Hispanics. If you made it an issue for all children, then maybe more people would support your cause.
~Hope~
gamepro103 1 year ago
Anyway, back to the subject, one could ask the same thing about why a majority of priosners are black males.
gamepro103 1 year ago
:/ See, you made this quite inflamitory. I'm not going to be rude, but giving that situation with whtie girls inflames a lot of people. White people are easily offended when it comes to racism, so it is not good to target them with it. I think that there are more minorities that are racist then there are still white people. I mean, think about it, the "White Man" gave minorities equal rights... They must be racist!!!
gamepro103 1 year ago
You are not being rational with your point, and you need to validate what your saying with more plausible information.
footsaurus 1 year ago
maybe black boys are hit more because they break more rules then the white kids, ever consider that possibility???
madmandrummer 1 year ago
because the black kids misbehave more sorry
wrestler119121124 1 year ago
@wrestler119121124
That's not true. In fact, we percieve black children as trouble makers because we hold some unconcious biases against them. This is also reenforced by how the media precieved blacks or any minority for that matter. Blacks have many kids, mexicans are promiscuous, etc. It's clear to see these steriotypes in the media.
generalcrash777 1 year ago
@generalcrash777 now i suppose you will say that the media isn't controled by the people with money and power, that the reason so much negative attention is put on minorities because were so horrible...They have an agenda and people miss it because they're easily let astray. Missinformation and outright lies. Not all the media reports are biased but the population is controlled threw media.
savagemann78 1 year ago
African-american boys are hit more because they lack discipline and order in their lives. Why? Because there is NO father in the home to discipline them when they get out of line.
TheBeerNut1 1 year ago
Does anybody take parenting classes? really?
DSlayer1993 1 year ago
If it was black men spanking white girls, the white girls would love it and would probably "get in trouble" on purpose just to get spanked. White school girls are slutty.
comedicstuff 1 year ago
Paul
You seem to have a very screwed view on what white people think. I don't know why you think white people think it's more heartbreaking to see a white girl get paddled than a black girl. That's not the case. It's EQUALLY heartbreaking to see ANY child get paddled. You seriously need to get these ideas out of your head. It's 2010, not 1963.
Teachers hitting students is wrong PERIOD! There's NO reason to bring race into it. Whether you're black or white...it's ALWAYS wrong.
Jeffieboi 1 year ago
What's your point?
generalcrash777 1 year ago
Let me ask you, where do you get your scientific merit to support corporal punishment?
Let me back up what was told to you earlier. Why is it that the states with the highest corporal punishment rates have the highest crime, teen pregnanc rates. Also the highest rates of domestic violence and drop out rate? Can you please elighten me? One more thing, how was corporal punishment suppose to help Mitchel Johnson. Look up what happened to him, corporal punishment worked there, didn't it?
generalcrash777 2 years ago
90% of inmates in US jails had corporal punishment during their life, out of that 90% Texas, 73% reported both being hit at school as well as at home!....fact!
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
Top 10 public schools in the US have NO Corporal Punishment at all....and the highest graduation rate.
The States with the Highest Corporal Punishment rate(s) ALSO have the highest teen pregnancy rate, highest CRIME rate and the highest Drop out rate! Were they not hitting the kids hard enough TEXAS?
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
What bible are you reading?I've never actually seen those things in the bible about hate but yet people speak of it all the time.Can you please tell me what bible and what chapter and verse so I can see for myself.
Piscesthedreamer21 2 years ago
The ingrained racism is inherent in spanking. People really do believe that if you beat on a black boy, he will learn his place better, and gawd forbid he doesn't know it. (sarcasm intended). The black man still has to follow the unwritten rules like: You have to dress as well, and preferably better than any white man if you want to even get a decent job. You have to say yes sir and yes ma'am more. You can't be as familiar to white women in a corporate setting as white men, etc.
beastshawnee 2 years ago
I just last night watched a documentary from 1965 called a time for burning. It was wonderful. It showed the racism that was so ingrained in the white Omaha church, that they just couldn't handle the very tiny suggestion that some of their members voluntarily go talk to some black people. They put pressure on the preacher until he resigned. We are a long way from this now, but we are not all the way. If you watch it, also watch the extras which include an interview u can't miss.
beastshawnee 2 years ago
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Dear Paula,
Please forgive me for attracting this smashingCRAP loser on here. He is a mad American. He burns flags and states that he is glad Canadian Soldiers are dying in Afghanistan, pretty much spitting in the face of all Veterans.
Please block him, he is worthless
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
Every child deserves the SAME right to protection as an Adult, if not more, and to hit a child with a board is Assault, the same as it would be for an Adult.
Omar, tell me, why is it that the State with the largest C.P rate also has the highest crime rate?
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
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IQ of 150:
Well, when you were ask to prove your point, you completely ignored my questions and discredited scientific data that I have been able to produce. I will give you one more chance, produce 1 piece of peer reviewed scientific data that proves that corporal punishment is not harmful. You heard me, I just want 1. Since you also teach, you can also give me the school and professor that told you the proper way to paddle or that corporal punishment is effective.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
The Obama children would never very likely be treated the same as any other child because they are the President's daughters. It matters not that they are African American.
omar967 2 years ago
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The Obama children will not be treated this way:
Thank you for proving my point. School Corporal punishment is classist. The Obama children wouldn't be treated this way because they are the president's children, but Little Johny in Alabama, who's parents are uneducated and poor should get whipped?
You said that corporal punishment works, but the Obama children shouldn't be treated in that way, they are surely missing out on something good for them?
generalcrash777 2 years ago
Hey Omar, feel free to throw some questions at me, and perhaps without just saying i am stupid?>:?
And tell me this Omar, Courtney Biggers is in kindergarten at Fairlane Elementary in Lafayette. She is 5 years old, paddled twice in one day. Her crime? She was barking like a dog in the school cafeteria!!
She is now afraid of teachers and is in counselling because of the ASSAULT.
How was it Corporal Punishment helped her again omar??
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
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Great point!
Not to be rude, but Courtney would have been better off if she was a dog, because if a teacher struck a dog, that teacher would be arested and brought to justice. But if it is a child and the adult who struck him/her was a teacher, well, people sweep it underground and make excuses about why that child was battered up.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
She learned that she is a human being and not a dog, and that her behavior was inappropriate. Now stfu.
omar967 2 years ago
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Hey omar, where do you draw the line between 'hurt' and 'injure' when hitting a child?
The whole idea behind hitting is to hurt right? Do all teachers know what is going on in that childs life before hitting them? Abuse at home? Depression? ADD, Autism...hmm?
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
You know, when I was in school there was no such thing as ADD or ADHD. I do not agree that children should be spanked so hard by a teacher that they are bruised by the paddle. That was never done to me and I know of no one else who suffered bruising on their buttocks as the result of a teacher hitting them with a paddle. There are people who overdo it and they shouldn't be paddling kids if they tend to overdo it.
omar967 2 years ago
children being bruised:
That's just the beginning. Paula, maker of this video has met a man who was paddled and he felt something funny in his privates. Like a burning sensation and guess what. He is 40 & currently sterile. No children for that men. We also heard of someone who is paralyzed from the waste down after a paddling, a little 12 year old and currently, the parents are meeting resistance as they are seeking justice for there child. Finally, go to nospank. net and type in injuredkids
generalcrash777 2 years ago
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Oh so now you are a clinical doctor and have come to the fact that there was no such thing as ADD or ADHD back in your days? Where is this fact from, i would love to read about it??
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
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Hey Omar, should the Obama children be hit by a teacher for being bad? I DARE say not! Secret service just may have something to say about a person coming at them with a 3 ft board!
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
Bad example.
omar967 2 years ago
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You are appalled? Holy shit omar, dont know who you THINK you are, but picking up a board and hitting a child is NEVER ever, right!
Btw omar, tell me, what 'credible' teaching college instructs its undergradutates how to hit kids with boards? SURELY they teach them how to hit a child properly dont they?
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
omar, what are you? The spelling Nazi?
"But it is sometimes necessary,"
Oh, you mean like the little boy who recently shot dead his father after being spanked 1000 x's. I guess that will never happpen again eh???
I will tell you Mr omar know it all, i no longer have a freind for the simple fact he was spanked by his oh so loving parents. Until the day they hit him to hard, and put him over the edge. I guess the spanking police were not there to make sure he was ok right?
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
Sorry for the slip up. I actually, graduated high school in the top 75th percentile & top 200 out of the 700 who graduated in my class. Guess what, it was in California, a no paddling state. Whenever I made a mistake, I was spoken to, mentored, and shown respect. What you are advocating for is to treat kids with the upmost disrespect. If you don't think that hitting is disrespectful, let's see how you like it when you are spanked when you are late for work, but students can get hit for that.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
to prove your point by producing one piece of scientific literature that is peer reviewed, you did not only answer my question, but ignored it altogether. So I'll give you another chance, as an educated person, prove to me that corporal punishment is effective, to support your claim please give me reference to a peer reviewed article. As well as the school that educated you on the proper way to administer cp or that corporal punishment is effecttive. Please include school, professors' names, etc
generalcrash777 2 years ago
I have taught:
Funny, Paula, the maker of this video has been teaching in this country for 30 years, not once did she ever think of coming with someone with a 2 by 4 with a board attached, most commonly known as a paddle.
Since you are a teacher, you can shed some light. Can you please name the school that taught you or educated you on the proper way to administer corporal punishment or that corporal punishment is a effective way to discipline students because when you were given the chance
generalcrash777 2 years ago
Again, I think this woman's assertion of "what would you think if black male teachers paddled white girls?" is ludicrous. I had a black male teacher in junior high who paddled 5 boys for not doing their homework one day (one swat each). There were girls who didn't do their homework, but he gave them detentions instead. Race didn't matter in that case and it shouldn't now. People pulling the race card is getting old already.
omar967 2 years ago
Hi Omar967,
Thanks for writing.
I don't see where your story of a black male teacher spanking 5 boys and of the girls who didn't get spanked for not bringing in there homework connect here.
How does your story relate to the fact that if a black male teacher had a 16 year old white girl posture her buttocks before him while she held on to the back of his chair as he spanked her, relate to the fact that this scenario would result in his being lynched?
Thank you,
Paula Flowe
paulaflowe 2 years ago
Of course you bleeding heart liberal idiots will never see the connection to anything a conservative Christian (whom I might add is NOT a Fundamentalist Christian, but a non-denominational Christian with Apostolic beliefs) would say on the matter. Like I said below, the people here who are narrow minded are those who don't want to believe that any good can come from corporal punishment. I am a substitute teacher and I have seen bad children in action and the parents don't care.
omar967 2 years ago
The parents don't care if their kids go to school and steal from their teacher and they don't do anything about it. When a parent does discipline their kid (and rightfully so), if bruises are left, the school is obligated to report it if the bruises are displayed for the school officials. What the heck ever happened to the social services people keeping their noses out of other people's business unless there is a serious danger of injury to the child? My grandfather on my mom's side was abusive
omar967 2 years ago
Dear Omar967,
In one of your comments below, you ref. from Proverbs. The OT is not in effect any longer and when it was it was directed at the Jews, so God was not speaking to you though reading it allows you to know his wishes prior to the NT.
Second of all, there is no such thing as "bad children."
Thirdly, are you a Christian? Is there a scripture that says its okay to call someone names like "idiot?"
If you are, please read, Matthew 5:22.
I wish you God's best.
Thank you,
Paula Flowe
paulaflowe 2 years ago
The people who are narrow minded are those who don't want to listen to the positive side of corporal punishment because they believe that it is all bad, and no good can come from it. I'm telling you, elementary school kids would behave more appropriately and not try to run amok if there was even the legitimate threat of a swat or two on the bottom with a paddle. Suspension is like giving them a vacation from school, which is what kids want. It's not about what kids want. It's what they need.
omar967 2 years ago
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Narrow mindedness:
It seems funny that you would accuse everyone that looks at scientific data and dismiss it for "Spear the rod, spoil the child," as ignorant. This quote is not even written in scripture, it's a saying. It came from a poem that read, "Spear the rod, spoil the WILD!"
Positive side of corporal punishment:
I challenge you to find 1 peer review scientific journal article that supports paddling. You heard me, just 1. Good thing in the 21st century we have many tools to discipline
generalcrash777 2 years ago
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Kids need a swat:
Says who? You have been asked questions, but you seem not to answer them or you do a good job of ignoring them.
Narrow mindedness:
Funny because when you are presented data, you dismiss it, so who's narrow minded now?
It doesn't sound like you looked up what I told you to, google this:
Positive Discipline. Good thing in the 21st century, there is more than paddling and suspension to discipline students.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
When I was in school and corporal punishment was used, there was never a "spanking fest." Most kids feared the paddle and respected authority, and it wasn't used primarily on black or Hispanic students, and I live in a community where such students make up more than 25% of the student population. Like I said before...since paddling has been abolished here, the kids know there is no real punishment, so they run amok. They could give two craps less about suspensions...which are also unnecessary.
omar967 2 years ago
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Fearing the paddle:
Thanks for proving my point. Did you obey because it was the right thing or in fear of getting hit? If it is the latter, let me tell you, this society is in big trouble.
Who's going to paddle them at work, their boss? Spouse? Their doctor?
This is a little tip, I would get the same results if I didn't show a paddle, but a loaded gun and said the exact same thing.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
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It sounds like you didn't answer my questions, let me rephrase it for you.
Why are minorities, boys, and kids with disabilities paddled more often then their counterparts? (A Violent Education, August 20, 2008.)
2. What teachers college trains it's future teachers on the right way to paddle students?
3. Why does corporal punishment hold no merit in the scientific community? Why do an overwhelming majority of developmental scientist, psychologist, and medical doctors against its use?
generalcrash777 2 years ago
It sounds like you are an ignorant person who does not believe in God or the Bible. The Bible is the basis of a lot of the belief in this country that corporal punishment is supposed to be administered to children who misbehave and need correction. Of course, some people take the scripture from Proverbs that tells them they shall beat their child with the rod to the extreme, which is not good, but it does say that and means exactly what it says. God inspired the scriptures in the Bible.
omar967 2 years ago
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Not believing in God:
This how a spanker responds, accuse anyone against their spanking ways of being an atheist. Quit commiting the mortal sin of judging. Let me challenge you, since we live in New testiment days, do you think Jesus would beat any of the sheep in his care or would he guide them, aid them, keep together and protect. Jesus taught kindness and encourage us to respect the inocence of childhood. Also, Paul made it clear between coming at someone with a rod and showing someone love.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
No one is judging anyone here or calling them an atheist. You are putting words in other people's mouths which are not present. Which is the same as bearing false witness against your neighbor...also against the Ten Commandments.
omar967 2 years ago
Uh...I'm an atheist, cannot find a belief in God or in the Bible which I know is man-made. It includes passages telling us it's okay to beat your kids, have slaves, stone women to death, and says being a homosexual and eating shrimp are abominations....and I believe spanking is wrong. I work with the kids that been thrown away by our society, Delinquents, abused kids, foster kids, etc in a shelter. The more kids are abused -the more they act out and hit back. I see it first-hand every day.
beastshawnee 2 years ago 2
beastshawnee,
The Bible itself says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
letmebfrankwithu 2 years ago
Dont forget letmebfrank....you are suppose to be out 'stoning to death homosexuals'...just like it says in the Bible....or are you picking and choosing again?
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
yes i 100% agree but that does not mean that every scripture can stand on its own. one must read all scripture before comming to a conclusion on any one topic.
guidav123 2 years ago
your understanding of the bible is very close to many christians but i must say that the Bible is a progression in thought, with many laws and traditions being done away with over a period of time. many of these practices were merely stepping stones thru the history of mans evolving into christianity. through it all the conclusion is love. God is love , love is the fulfilling of the law. accept jesus and live in love and stop trying to live as they did thousands of years ago.
guidav123 2 years ago
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Your so-called "scientific data" is utter bullshit.
letmebfrankwithu 2 years ago
Dear Letmebfrankwithu,
Please take time to read the first five pages of the recent ACLU and GAO reports, at the very least, linked at The Hitting Stops Here Dot Comm. These reports cite numerous widespread cases of not only abuse but fatalities occurring in U S schools.
Then, please join us in bringing this institutionalized racism and assault and battery to our American school children to an end.
Thank you,
Paula Flowe
paulaflowe 2 years ago
No, of course not, dont look at any facts "letmebeatkids"....you twit!
fitasafiddle123 2 years ago
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Finally, why do the states with the highest paddling rate have the highest crime rate, dropout rate, and highest levels of domestic violence?
We don't need your little story about corporal punishment to prove it's benifits or harm, we have something called behavioral psychology and the scientific method.
Also, saying suspension and paddling are the only forms of discipline demonstrates your narrow mindedness. Google this:
Positive Discipline.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
We don't need people like you who are bleeding heart liberals trying to convince people like me who believe in "spare the rod, spoil the child" that corporal punishment is harmful to kids, when if it is done in love and never in anger, it is not detrimental to children's well-being. Only a small percentage of people ever go overboard with spanking or paddling. Not every person who spanks, whips or paddles their child should be reported to the children's services department.
omar967 2 years ago
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Being a liberal:
First of all, this is not a liberal issue at all. It's an American issue & human rights issue. Suppose kids weren't the issue, but wife beating was. Would you call me a liberal if I wanted to support women from being beaten by their husbands? How about animal beating, would you also call me a liberal for supporting the ethical treatment of animals? This can also go for the elderly, prisoners, and soldiers. Why is it that kids are a different story compared to the titles above?
generalcrash777 2 years ago
Im from UK, I dont see why it has to be a race issue, it could be more about other things like culture / tradition in different areas and so on. There are probably some mainly white schools that still practice it too.
But I do agree that spanking is not a good form of punishment and should be stopped at all schools.
fredblair88 2 years ago
FB88
Anytime a possibilityexists of such things, it needs to stop. We have all heard of "mean" teachers, racist teachers, just as we have heard of fine teachers. If racist teachers exist then swinging a paddle should not be lawful in
schools. It's bound to happen at least once.
That's once too many,especially when there
are other options. Children turn out fine
without being beaten into submission in the
many developed nations in this world. Why
should some be submitted to such a possibility.
paulaflowe 2 years ago
No matter what issue we have to make it, as long as it stops...
All who paddle should have their pictures in the paper so we know who hits our kids... make their names public then! Go to a school with a video camera and put footage of them on YouTube!
HATERSDotTV 2 years ago
I think your assertion that paddling is racially motivated is ludicrous. The problem in the classrooms in states where corporal punishment has been outlawed is that children tend to run amok and do whatever they please because they know that with no corporal punishment, there are no real consequences for their bad behavior. When teachers were able to temporarily stop class and remove the disruptive child long enough to administer a "swat" with the paddle, they had more control of the classroom.
omar967 2 years ago
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Paddling being racially motivated:
Yes it is, ACLU and Human Rights Watch report, "A violent Education" dated August 20, 2008. Blacks are 3 times likely to be beaten by school staff than whites. Can you explain that? Also, why are native Americans and lintinos 2 times likely to be paddled than whites? Also, why are special Needs students paddled at twice the rate as students in regular education classes. Can you explain that?
generalcrash777 2 years ago
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Also, why do the states with they highest rates of corporal punishment have the highest dropout rate, crime rate and higher rates in domestic violence?
Why isn't proper corporal punishment techniques taught in college to its future teachers?
Paddling being effective:
Not if you are paying attention to science. The debate on corporal punishment is dead in the psychological community and medical community. It doesn't work. There are other ways to train a child without having a spanking fest.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
go for it
pmays 2 years ago
Do you know how ignorant you sound? Please explain why I know blacks who are the brightest people you're ever going to meet. Why are their black professors at my school, think about what you say before you comment. Like I said, it makes you look ignorant. Just to let you know, I'm not white and I graduated high school in the top 3rd in my class. Why did my friend who is not white too and he graduated 1st in our class. Keep your bigotry to yourself.
generalcrash777 2 years ago 4
Thank you for your opinion-I too understand you view. She shows a complete lack of knowledge on culture and discipline
protector1911 2 years ago
Dear Creamybeigegirl,
Please see my comment to Ghettonuker as it applies to you as well.
My best wishes for your growth and development in love, harmony, and wisdom over time.
Thank you for your comment.
Paula Flowe
paulaflowe 2 years ago
Dear Ghettonuker,
Thank you for writing. Your comment helps responsible, caring adults of all races see how badly our children need to be taught love and wisdom if we want to end racism and inequality in this country.
The good news is that racists are getting to be more of the minority in this country and that's something the USA can finally be proud of.
My best wishes for a "change" in you.
Paula Flowe
paulaflowe 2 years ago
Keep up the good work. This needs to stop.
fabian11x 3 years ago
Dear Fabian11x,
Thank you. : )
Please sign our petition to have this practice banned at, The Hitting Stops Here dot Comm.
See top right corner. Please support our work by having lots of your friends sign as well.
I will not stop until the children are safe.
God bless you and thanks again for your support.
Paula Flowe
paulaflowe 3 years ago
miss flowe, are you single, i find you very attractive, and wuold like to check you out in person. please send me your number, and i'll give you a call.
tellthemiam 3 years ago
Dear Tellthemiam,
Thank you for the compliment.
Right now I need you to join me as an activist to get these children safe. Are you willing to help this cause? After they are safe, join me in partying like it's1999 with great joy! LOL
Paula Flowe
paulaflowe 3 years ago
Ms. Flowe, I actually emailed Oprah about your campaign and I directed her to you. I hope she can write back so you can raise awareness about the issue because I feel people are just uneducated about it and do not know it's still going on. Let me tell you, it's an honor working with you and I hope we can get this practice banned once and for all!
generalcrash777 3 years ago
Sorry Ms. Flowe, the last two comment were not for you, however, this for anyone that wants to try to debate me on the issue. Any takers?
P.S. I just took an intro to psych class and this is one of the things we learned.
generalcrash777 3 years ago
In psychology it is the modeling theory, this means children can model certain behaviors by observing others perform the same behavior. One of the great examples is the Bobo doll experiment where a group of kids saw another kid hitting the bobo doll with a bat and when they got into the playroom, they follow what the kid in the video did. So, let's let's take it to corporal punishment, if children observe adults hitting them, it is safe to assume that they will model that same behavior.
generalcrash777 3 years ago
Dear Ms. Flowe,
I was wondering since that is discrimination, couldn't you challenge it on the grounds of Title 9?
Also, whenever I talk about this issue, I always bring up this issue:
If I hit my dog, I'd been in jail for animal abuse.
If I hit another adult, I'd been in jail for battery or yet, attempted murder.
Why then is hitting children an exception of the rule?
You also bring up a good point that it teaches children to return violence with violence, but if I may, add on to that?
generalcrash777 3 years ago 2
GC777,
I know of a person in jail for abusing their parrot! I have a lawyer in Wash DC ready to take on the first Title IX case. Girls are unaware that they can use this law for protection. Help me spread the word. If anyone knows of a girl paddled and is willing to inform her and direct her to me, like I said, I have a lawyer standing by. Her case will be the "Rosa Parks" case in paddling discrimination. Hope you will help me with one, GC777.
Thank you,
Paula Flowe
paulaflowe 3 years ago
I posted a survey on a website and if I get any girls that reply, I will send them to you. Thanks.
generalcrash777 3 years ago
this is a very articulate and clever lady.
jmm119 3 years ago
Dear CoiledClock,
People have so many great options for solving
problems without violence. Options that could
actually bring them closer together. Teachers of all people are the best ones to model these choices. It's rare to find someone in prison who was not beaten as a child. Those statistics are available. If hitting works, I think we could shut down the prisons, since hitting makes one "turn out okay."
Thank you for writing,
Paula
paulaflowe 3 years ago
If a survey was done of the 2 million prisoners in American jails and prisons the majority would probably say they were hit as kids by their parents or in school so clearly its not the solution
There are european countries which have total bans on spanking/hitting (even by parents) yet manage to have a more civilized society than in the USA or here in Britain
recently in the UK we have seen major reforms banning all corporal punishment in schools and stopping parents using weapons to hit kids
CoiledClock 3 years ago 2