I'd rather PAY taxes than BORROW the money, squander it on stupid military adventurism and hope my great-grandchildren will pay for it all. My father died for this country in WW II, so I know a bit about fighting for freedom. Bush's was isn't for our freedom, it's for control of an oil-rich country, and was started on the flimsy excuse of a God-damned lie. Several, in fact. You don't have to be liberal to recognize that the Emperor has no clothes.
Bin Laden killed 3,000 Americans needlessly on 9/11. Bush killed 4,000+ Americans needlessly in Iraq. There is no arguing with the numbers - the greater danger is Bush. Keep up the great work, MoveOn! You are true Americans (the good kind!)
After really looking at the numbers, and considering that the media hasn't been reporting any major attacks lately, I would have to conclude that MoveOn got burned.
Can we just raise taxes on every fucking Moveon.orger?
I mean y'all are so damn overpaid and overeducated that you deserve to pay Swedish-style taxes. Just wish the GOP would take their heads out of their asses and tax you all into the oblivion you deserve.
Um... but we're not anti-America and we're not pro-Iraq War. Looks like you're the one with the distance between your money and your mouth. It's about as far as the distance between your cowardly ass and the war you claim is so important! SHNAP!
Stupid,whiny,self important, arrogant, ill educated white people with nothing better to do. Get a fuckin' job you no balls havin' cracker muthafuckers. Very petty people that lead vapid empty lives. Fuck off you dumb fuckin' crackers!
That Mohamed Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell Air Force Base, that Abdulaziz Alomari attended Brooks Air Force Base Aerospace Medical School, that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey merely shows it is a small world, after all.
911 happened BAECAUSE the dots were not connected. Agencies were not sharing information with each other and under Bubba the intern lover's regin, the intel budget was slashed and more impediments to prevent agencies from sharing info were put in place. But i guess those on the committee were puppets of the evil Bush admin whose purpose was to blow up the WTC to get us into a fake war for oil that we haven't touched in 4 years. Like Carlos Mencia says...Dee dee dee!
"Hey, World Trade 7 fell down like because, because, because, um, the mayor stored thousands of gallons of diesel fuel in an office building. Yeah, that's it. Diesel fuel. It's just a coincidence that every single load bearing member on the ground floor failed at the exact same moment in time. Coincidence. CO-IN-SEE-DUNCE! Trust us. We're the government."
911, If the government wanted to attack the WTC to start a war against islam, for oil, or because they were bored, destroying the two main buildings would have been sufficient. You conspiracy kooks need to really get out more. have you ever kissed a girl? Seriously. The idea that Bush or some black ops thugs in the pentagon orchestrated the attacks is pure absurdity.
perhaps you haven't looked at the mountain of information that points to them rather than a religious fanatic operating out of a cave in afghanistan? There is just so much more to the story than the mainstream media has told us, but the problem is you and most other americans call it "pure absurdity" without examining the evidence. Thats ignorance plain and simple.
911, there were fires that burned in towers 1 & 2 that crippled the structure and that is why they collapsed. Popular Mechanics had articles that statesd the fires melted the steel. The architect of the towers also came to that conclusion. What motives do the editors of Popular Mechanics and the architect of the WTC have to lie? Take off the tinfoil hat 911, it's obvious that the sun is heating it up and it's cooking your brain.
right that ONE HOUR jet fuel fire created hotspots of molten metal that burned hotter than the MAX temp of jet fuel 100 days later...not to mention NOONE said the jet fuel melted the steel. it takes DOUBLE the max burning temp of jet fuel to produce molten steel. Therefore there was another HUGE energy source other than the jet fuel...explosives? Thermite?
Ideal conditions the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons such as jet fuel burning in air is 1520° F. When the WTC collapsed the deeply buried fires would have been deprived of oxygen and their temperatures would have significantly decreased.
Why was the temperature at the core of "the pile" nearly 500° F hotter than the maximum burning temperature of jet fuel many days after the collapses? What caused the hot spots deep in their wreckage?
Molten steel was found "3, 4, and 5 weeks later, when the rubble was being removed [from WTCs 1 & 2],". molten steel was also found at 7 WTC.
Molten steel is a by-product of a thermite reaction. But there is no explanation for steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures, Dr. Barnett said.
Burning diesel can't produce enough heat to melt steel, so it certainly can't evaporate it, but thermite can.
Lieberman is a political whore...the war in Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror. It only has to do with corporate interests and was planned well before the government staged the terror attacks of 9/11
That Jonathan Bush's Riggs Bank has been found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a US-record $25 million must embarrass his nephew George, but it's still no justification for leaping to paranoid conclusions.
That George Bush's brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines means nothing more than you must admit those Bush boys have done alright for themselves.
So, because the Bush family isn't destitute they must be bad people? if that is your criteria please include the Kennedys, the Rockefellers, the Clintons, John Edwards, John Kerry, Al Gore, All of Hollywood, etc.
That Dave Frasca of the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit received a promotion after quashing multiple, urgent requests for investigations into al Qaeda assets training at flight schools in the summer of 2001 does appear on the surface odd, but undoubtedly there's a good reason for it, quite possibly classified.
Mahmood Ahmed, chief of Pakistan's ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn't read anything about him in the official report.
It's funny you should accuse ME of a lack of control, given the radicalism of the Bush junta. I made a joke about neocon sandlot bully spewing all over the discussion boards (since Yahoo is not letting them belch their poison there anymore). Neocons assert that their lack of control is rational, and anyone who defends is out of control. You are on the typical "convert or humiliate" campaign. I'm not interested in your Monty Python gamesaying.
I did not make any political statement about Bush, I made the comment that "Nazi hooting" was not very civil. You then gave an excuse claiming something like "they made me do it." I'm not sure where all of your hate comes from. I was trying to keep the discussion civil. ~Peace.
I hate mccain and think the new ad is great. I wish ron paul was pres.
tonylee1973 3 years ago
Surge is working wonderful, moron.
Zarlok2 3 years ago
MOVE ON is WRONG and does not speak for millions of Americans. They are rude, nasty and I don't want them talking for me. I disagree with them 100%
wonwinner7 3 years ago
move on is anit american. loser liberals want everyone else to do everything for them. pay taxes and fight for their freedoms. l o s e r s...
russd2 3 years ago
I'd rather PAY taxes than BORROW the money, squander it on stupid military adventurism and hope my great-grandchildren will pay for it all. My father died for this country in WW II, so I know a bit about fighting for freedom. Bush's was isn't for our freedom, it's for control of an oil-rich country, and was started on the flimsy excuse of a God-damned lie. Several, in fact. You don't have to be liberal to recognize that the Emperor has no clothes.
n2mt 3 years ago
McCain is riding with PNAC on his "Neocon Express" :
h t t p : / / laudemgloriae. blogspot. com/2008/03/mccain-and-pnac. html
Yankhadenough 3 years ago
joe Liebermann is a fucking OPPORTUNIST!!! WHAT A NERD.. Fuck Liebermann stupid zionist, Mc cain sucker!!
Thesouthman 3 years ago 2
move on please move out...thanks
beginnend 3 years ago
this crap bores me
kornr76 3 years ago
move on sucks
mikebyrd42069 3 years ago
Bin Laden killed 3,000 Americans needlessly on 9/11. Bush killed 4,000+ Americans needlessly in Iraq. There is no arguing with the numbers - the greater danger is Bush. Keep up the great work, MoveOn! You are true Americans (the good kind!)
NakedWombat666 3 years ago 2
After really looking at the numbers, and considering that the media hasn't been reporting any major attacks lately, I would have to conclude that MoveOn got burned.
GOPpersona 4 years ago
Can we just raise taxes on every fucking Moveon.orger?
I mean y'all are so damn overpaid and overeducated that you deserve to pay Swedish-style taxes. Just wish the GOP would take their heads out of their asses and tax you all into the oblivion you deserve.
proghawk 4 years ago
All Young Republicans should get their asses to Iraq pronto.
mangokitty 4 years ago
All young democrats should get their asses to Europe pronto.
dwimmerlaik 4 years ago
Um... but we're not anti-America and we're not pro-Iraq War. Looks like you're the one with the distance between your money and your mouth. It's about as far as the distance between your cowardly ass and the war you claim is so important! SHNAP!
NakedWombat666 3 years ago
Stupid,whiny,self important, arrogant, ill educated white people with nothing better to do. Get a fuckin' job you no balls havin' cracker muthafuckers. Very petty people that lead vapid empty lives. Fuck off you dumb fuckin' crackers!
locash74 4 years ago
That Mohamed Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell Air Force Base, that Abdulaziz Alomari attended Brooks Air Force Base Aerospace Medical School, that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey merely shows it is a small world, after all.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
911 happened BAECAUSE the dots were not connected. Agencies were not sharing information with each other and under Bubba the intern lover's regin, the intel budget was slashed and more impediments to prevent agencies from sharing info were put in place. But i guess those on the committee were puppets of the evil Bush admin whose purpose was to blow up the WTC to get us into a fake war for oil that we haven't touched in 4 years. Like Carlos Mencia says...Dee dee dee!
dansmith44 4 years ago
"Hey, World Trade 7 fell down like because, because, because, um, the mayor stored thousands of gallons of diesel fuel in an office building. Yeah, that's it. Diesel fuel. It's just a coincidence that every single load bearing member on the ground floor failed at the exact same moment in time. Coincidence. CO-IN-SEE-DUNCE! Trust us. We're the government."
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
Consider the facts about building 7:
The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
Silverstein said to the fire department commander "the smartest thing to do is pull it."
Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to "blow up".
The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
911, If the government wanted to attack the WTC to start a war against islam, for oil, or because they were bored, destroying the two main buildings would have been sufficient. You conspiracy kooks need to really get out more. have you ever kissed a girl? Seriously. The idea that Bush or some black ops thugs in the pentagon orchestrated the attacks is pure absurdity.
dansmith44 4 years ago
perhaps you haven't looked at the mountain of information that points to them rather than a religious fanatic operating out of a cave in afghanistan? There is just so much more to the story than the mainstream media has told us, but the problem is you and most other americans call it "pure absurdity" without examining the evidence. Thats ignorance plain and simple.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
911, there were fires that burned in towers 1 & 2 that crippled the structure and that is why they collapsed. Popular Mechanics had articles that statesd the fires melted the steel. The architect of the towers also came to that conclusion. What motives do the editors of Popular Mechanics and the architect of the WTC have to lie? Take off the tinfoil hat 911, it's obvious that the sun is heating it up and it's cooking your brain.
dansmith44 4 years ago
right that ONE HOUR jet fuel fire created hotspots of molten metal that burned hotter than the MAX temp of jet fuel 100 days later...not to mention NOONE said the jet fuel melted the steel. it takes DOUBLE the max burning temp of jet fuel to produce molten steel. Therefore there was another HUGE energy source other than the jet fuel...explosives? Thermite?
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
Ideal conditions the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons such as jet fuel burning in air is 1520° F. When the WTC collapsed the deeply buried fires would have been deprived of oxygen and their temperatures would have significantly decreased.
Why was the temperature at the core of "the pile" nearly 500° F hotter than the maximum burning temperature of jet fuel many days after the collapses? What caused the hot spots deep in their wreckage?
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
Molten steel was found "3, 4, and 5 weeks later, when the rubble was being removed [from WTCs 1 & 2],". molten steel was also found at 7 WTC.
Molten steel is a by-product of a thermite reaction. But there is no explanation for steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures, Dr. Barnett said.
Burning diesel can't produce enough heat to melt steel, so it certainly can't evaporate it, but thermite can.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
300 move On members were there. I guess several Burger Kings had to close that day.
dansmith44 4 years ago
Giving weapons to anyone in the Middle East, in my opinion, can only come back to haunt us. No Secret Government in America.
truewealth 5 years ago
Lieberman is a political whore...the war in Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror. It only has to do with corporate interests and was planned well before the government staged the terror attacks of 9/11
Rochembo 5 years ago
"the government staged the terror attacks of 9/11"
Please remove the tinfoil hat from your head. The aliens are no longer interested in you. They realise that you do not have a mind to read or control
dansmith44 4 years ago
That Jonathan Bush's Riggs Bank has been found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a US-record $25 million must embarrass his nephew George, but it's still no justification for leaping to paranoid conclusions.
That George Bush's brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines means nothing more than you must admit those Bush boys have done alright for themselves.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
So, because the Bush family isn't destitute they must be bad people? if that is your criteria please include the Kennedys, the Rockefellers, the Clintons, John Edwards, John Kerry, Al Gore, All of Hollywood, etc.
dansmith44 4 years ago
That Dave Frasca of the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit received a promotion after quashing multiple, urgent requests for investigations into al Qaeda assets training at flight schools in the summer of 2001 does appear on the surface odd, but undoubtedly there's a good reason for it, quite possibly classified.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
Mahmood Ahmed, chief of Pakistan's ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn't read anything about him in the official report.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
Lieberman is an agent of Israel.
edisonoside 5 years ago
A flood of neocon nazi hooting, braying, and screeching will surely follow these lines.
obnostic 5 years ago
Nazi hooting? That's not very civil. Peace.
Emjay711 5 years ago
27 years of "Civil" to the neocon menace is what brought us to this point. Impeach, indict, imprison, tar and feather.
obnostic 5 years ago
so you are blaming conservatives for your lack of control?
Emjay711 5 years ago
Non sequitur.
obnostic 5 years ago
That's not an answer. That's a cop-out.
Emjay711 5 years ago
It's funny you should accuse ME of a lack of control, given the radicalism of the Bush junta. I made a joke about neocon sandlot bully spewing all over the discussion boards (since Yahoo is not letting them belch their poison there anymore). Neocons assert that their lack of control is rational, and anyone who defends is out of control. You are on the typical "convert or humiliate" campaign. I'm not interested in your Monty Python gamesaying.
obnostic 5 years ago
I did not make any political statement about Bush, I made the comment that "Nazi hooting" was not very civil. You then gave an excuse claiming something like "they made me do it." I'm not sure where all of your hate comes from. I was trying to keep the discussion civil. ~Peace.
Emjay711 5 years ago