my view on the zimbabwean situation part 1.avi

[zwezwaldo]

fuck that...mugabe must GO...fuck him,and the whites,and the shonas...there i said it..

[spackhollogay]

@zwezwaldo Oooh, controversial.

[fixzimbabwe]

The only positive respons to your talk comes from a muslim halfwit called 'Protectingafrica'. Imagine that lot getting foothold in Zim, just when you thought things couldn't get any worse.

Tendai, you remind me of an other angry young man called R3NDI3R, he lives in SA.

[chigudo]

look at this monkey

[mck2886]

Racist idot  - go back to Zim and starve . . or die from Cholera. Take off your clothes, put on a loin cloth and beat your drum. You dont need anything from the western world or the 'alien' white man.

[globalnomad62]

just because you have no desire for tobacco and gild doesn't mean it's for the west. the highest concentration of smokers i have seen are either in africa or asia.

yet you use a 'western' means (the internet) to send your badly thought out message to the world?? try using smoke signals, or your african drum to send your message. that's if you are stil alive thanks to western medicine.

[Znaika1]

So, your logic is: "since I belong to the race that used to live here, I have the right to expropriate the land"?

This is nice. Do you know that throughout the history land changed hands infinite number of times? Are you aware that Ndebele (Zulu) took the land by force from Shona (Bantu) only 50 years before Europens came to Zim? Do you know that Shona toll this land also by force two hundred years before that?

Do you really want to continue with that tradition?

If you need it, buy it

[hustla2000]

im black zim, and u can talk all the shit u want but i myself, yourself and the world knows that zim will never be able to get back on its feet without the british so think about it kaffir

[19Tendai79]

Are you sure Zim can get but on it feet with out Brit then indeed you are the well trained dog that needs YOUR master for your survival. As for me i believe that the chains of dependence and slavery need to be broken so that we are self surfficient and truly independent..tuff road but we can do it without Babylon

[tomaluta]

yo!lecture all ex rhode,

[19Tendai79]

for anyone to unlock the beauty of the future one must truthfully understand the past. "the taller the tree the deeper the roots"

[ProtectingAfrica]

Thank you for your great contribution to the cause of the African people.

those devils "whites" now undestand us better.

[chigudo]

look at how stupid this guy tendai is idiot assylum seeker fuck you mhata you sad individual

[mugabesanus]

tendai whites will always be in africa alot of left but fact is i am in zim and you in britain it looks like you were the one chased, you will neva eva in a million years chase all whites they will always be there so get over it

[cricketmaniac1]

Like his president. The ramblings of a mad man.

[mugabesanus]

tendai stop it !!! you are an embarassment to blacks

[chigudo]

also gold tobacco was value to zimbabwe as it created foreign currency

[19Tendai79]

and when you say foregin currency you mean the pound euro and US dollar soon to become Amero.. but my question is why do we need foregin currency.. and the reason we need it is becoz the monetary system was design as so.they make the rules and we just follow...

play this game with their rules we will never ever ever win.. but just be slaves to the empire....

[chigudo]

zimbabwe needs foreign currency, because zimbabwes dollar is now worthless due to cut throat policies by mugabe, foreign currency is based on the productiveness of a country uk us and china are productive zim is not hence we need foreign currency to buy food fuel zesa etc

[chigudo]

Blazo seriously are you normal, if you support land reform then tell me why you enjoying and look fat living in london, and not in zim ploughing that land, also that land has gone to zanu pf officials. even whites were willing to give land but alot of that land had improvements ie dams irrigation which the whites wanted compensation for you say the whites just took how can that have been when they built huge dams etc and infrastructure on the land.

[chigudo]

why has mugabe braiwashed your very small brain the blacks are dying in zim daily mwana aka chema and all you do is follow this monkey mugabe blindly mhata to you changamire

[rufushound]

bombd2, read the news, see the facts! You are in the UK, free from terror, free from murder, free from starvation! Able to access a free press! Stop making excuses for the murderer Mugabe!

I assume you are Zimbabwean! If you are, your brothers and sisters are suffering, hear their plight!

If you don't support the people of Zimbabwe in their struggle for freedom you support the murderer Mugabe.

Blame the West as much as you want, this is a terror of Mugabe's making.

[rufushound]

Racist, racist, racist!

What country do you live in?

Indigenous Africans?

Racist!

[19Tendai79]

why is my comment racist. anyways the word racist truly means the love or prefectionist in one owns race. so if i love my race alot and want the best for the indigenous africans in africa then yes i am racist...

[rufushound]

Well tell that to the KKK, you have a lot in common!

[bombd2]

How do Zimbabwean overseas make life harder for those in Zimbabwe, you have just proved you know nothing about how economies work. Why do you think the EU contries love their citizens coming to the UK? Zimbabweans in the Diaspora are giving some relief to the situation by sending forex to Zimbabwe.I thought you were a Zimbabwean initially,therefore i am no longer inclined argue with you

[bombd2]

I moved to the UK this year and have suffered in Zimbabwe beacause of the economy and watched as instability initiated over the years.So dont lecture me on facts and living UK thats a broken record now,you know nothing about the facts,what fact can you tell me about zimbabwe you have failed to respond intelligently you failed give a broken down analysis of how Mugabe is screwing up the economy.Yes he should not have allowed people to be killed but the majority is suffering due to the economy

[bombd2]

Telling me to watch the news,hasn't this FOOL noticed all of a sudden there is less news about Zimbabwe,why one asks,well because the african leaders at the summit, South Africa, China and Russia have declined for more sanctions against Zimbabwe against the US and UKs calls,so the UK is now cautious incase this turns out to be another Iraq where they go out on a limb alone.Watch as the focus on Zimbabwe peters away.Huh telling me to watch the news take it with a pintch of salt i say.

[rufushound]

You escaped Zimbabwe, good for you.

But if you are the sort, like 19Tendai79 who also escaped the horrors the that have beset Zimbabwe and support Mugabe's dictatorship, then yes, I do have the right to criticise you!

Frankly, the UK should do nothing where Zimbabwe is concerned other than support sanctions imposed by the UN and the EU.

As the former colonial power Mugabe will always use that against the UK.

As the racist Mugabe said, "the UK, keep their pink noses out".

[rufushound]

You are living in the UK, what if I said to you, "Europe should be for indiginous Europeans only"?

That is a racist comment and opinion, one I do not share.

But you think that you can say, "Africa for indiginous (BLACK) Africans only", and you think it is acceptable. It is NOT, it is a racist comment and opinion.

[rufushound]

Have just checked your profile, checked in 20 hrs ago, you have read my reply, yet no comment!

[bombd2]

I will, this once give you the privilege of my attention this once:

Because

1.you are not educated enough to raise a debate that's mature factual convincing and gives a enriched perspective not just media drawl s I revise my opinion I challenge you to manage this one

2.you throw insult into comment you post you never reply to my views with substance. Hence I cannot reason with you or negotiate our differences

[rufushound]

And one last point. My post, the one you chose to replied too, was not directed to you!

[rufushound]

Privlage of your attention!

Spare me!

The attention of a dictator loving arschloch is something I can live without.

[bombd2]

3.you are the kind of narrow minded British individual who stereotypes people and thinks all foreigners are here for the benefits, I work as a road cleaner for an East London Borough pay my taxes and do the job you would probably never do though I have an accounting degree

4. Since I came here which is very recent I have be spat on once and have been called a "N" twice

[rufushound]

1. You knowing of my educational background and try to insult me by making disparaging remarks about things you clearly know nothing about.

2. By your own admission you fled your homeland because of Mugabe's disastrous policies.

[rufushound]

3. You live in a country where you have the right to express opinions against this state, if you had made similar comments about Mugabe and his regime you would now be dead.

4. You call me narrow minded, it's you who stereotype people and use insults.

5. You fail to offer any decent or considered argument in you support for the dictator that has and continues to destroy your country.

[rufushound]

6. Not an insult but an observation, you have abandoned you country like the proverbial rat, leaving a sinking ship. You put yourself first, your country and your people second.

[mzimb]

tendai - are you an asylum seeker in the UK?

[rufushound]

Would I be surprised he he was, NO! Typical two faced hypocrisy of his sort.

You can choose to put any country on your profile so to find he was resident in the UK would be typical of so many who flee Africa for the security and the benefits system as well as the free health care found in the UK.

We give a home to those who are our enemy!

[lemigod]

Hey moron.The farms went to the Ritch who did not need it.The poor became worse off,so please fuck off you retard!!!!!!!!

[huskernation9]

You are dumber then dirt sir

[rufushound]

Fuckin hell, now I've lost my temper.

You racist shit scum bag, how dare you call white Africans aliens, how fuckin dare you.

WHATS THIS, AFRICA FOR THE BLACKS ONLY! THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!

WELL LETS GET SOME FUCKIN FACTS RIGHT, ONLY 23% OF ZIM WAS OWNED BY COMMERCIAL FARMS, MANY OF THOSE BOURGHT FROM THE ZIM GOVERNMENT POST INDEPENANCE.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ZIM SINCE LAND REFORMS, THE ECONOMY HAS COLLAPSED, 5 MILLIONS ZIM'S STARVIN.

[Zimbachild]

Daa Rufushound. Yes we dare stand and boldly declare that Africa is for Africans- indigenous Black Africans to be ver precise for the benefit of people like you. 23%...Yeah right!! 80% is more acurate. Yes the economy has collapsed and millions are starving BUT its a revolution and every revolution has some casualties. DOnt forget that war veterans had to endure starvation lawlessness, blood shed and worse just for us to be recognised as human so we have to carry the batton to the next phase.

[rufushound]

The bold racist! No you're just stupid filth.

Their is NO revolution in Zimbabwe just the murder of a nation, it's people and it's democracy.

Most of these war veterans are were not born till after independence

War veterans, give me strength, nothing more than a murderous mob given guns, attacking people, beating and raping with a police force that is implicit in the terror.

Perhaps with people like you, Africa get what it deserves.

Certainly looks like Zambia could go the same way!

[bombd2]

Maybe revolution is a bit too strong a word to use but you cannot deny that white people had it much better off than the majority black people in zimbabwe that needed to be addressed and you will find no Zimbabwean had a problem with land being taken.Yes people have been killed its not right but why is there a double standard,why is there no outroar about Bushas with Bob(many more people die a day in Iraq)im not an apologist for Mugabe but i need to bring to light the double standard here

[rufushound]

OK, people are dying in Iraq, I'm not even going into the rights or wrongs of that.

But Zimbabwe was a stable democracy, handed over to majority rule as a democracy, the bread basket of Southern Africa, with the best health care and education system in the region.

19Tendai79 himself states he attended one of Zimbabwe's most exclusive schools!

We have seen the destruction of Zimbabwean judiciary, the erosion of civil liberties, the most barbaric acts of aggression.

[rufushound]

We have seen the destruction of a free press, free assembly and the use of torture, rape, murder and starvation as tools of the state to manipulate and terrify the population

[bombd2]

So what governance does you or anyone have to impose a model of democracy upon a nation.Western civilisations developed their democracies in accordance with their values(the declaration of independence)over hundreds of years and went through their dark ages.African societies have had a model imposed upon their societies.I condone people being killed but otherwise dont expect those models to fit perfectly other African values come into play and that is why not many African leaders are condone him

[bombd2]

I am not happy with the over scrutiny place on Mugabe. You talk about education, in 1984 there was only 1 university in Zimbabwe built in1952 and very few black people in education by 1994 we had a 90% literacy rate and still do look it up,the white people never wanted any black people in education so don't give them undue credit Mugabe put more zimbabweans into school. Best health care and education, of course but that has only gone down the drain as a result of the economic

[bombd2]

constraint brought about by the attempt by the UK and US to push Mugabe out of power as a result Zimbabweans are suffering all because of a little squabble over land to which the with Zimbabwean is wriggling with pleasure to. All was fine until just after the farm invasions when Britain cut lines of credit, discouraged trade with Zimbabwe, investment in Zimbabwe and directed subtle sanctions against Zimbabwe and that my friend is why Zimbabwe is in the state it is now

[bombd2]

If im wrong correct me and tell me exactly why we have a higher inflation than an African country at war and don't give me because Mugabe is stealing all the money(because why would he do that so that all the people hate him and want him out)or there is now farming because that alone never accounted for a large enough proportion of revenue to put us to this level of hyper inflation

[rufushound]

You don't like over scrutiny of Mugabe? Wake up, Zim is a mess and especially those who reside in the UK, who have brought this suffering on the average Zimbabwean.

No Zimbabwe does not have 90% literacy in 2008. you look it it! In 30yrs average life expectancy has halved from 60 to 30. You look it up!

Don't try and blame the mess that Zim is in on anyone else, this is the result of a corrupt and evil dictator. Supported by evil and corrupt men and women.

[mzimb]

ZimbaChild - You are a brainwashed fool.. rpobably another weak CIO ploy.. you are a sick puppy.

[tikiteahua]

Its all an illusion guys.

American and England have been after the raw resources in Africa for years.

But Mugabe refuses to deal with these international Gangsters and instead tolled them all to go to hell buy not agreeing to their corporate loans at high interest rates

The starving people are a direct result of sanctions by America and England ( which is just a siege method of turning the people againts Mugabe)

Iraq all over again!

[rufushound]

WANKER

[mzimb]

tikiteahua - is that why Mugabe killed over 20,000 of his own people? You are a brainwashed fool.. Dont you think its a wee bit ironic that you say all this from the comfort of some western country enjoying the very privileges Mugabe denies his won people?

[Zimbachild]

Its very narrow minded of you to see a computer and asume that it is not possible for Tendai to be in Zimbabwe. "Comfort of the West".....no I am emailing from Borrowdale in Zimbabwe. Yes we have computers and yes we cameras too in Zimbabwe!!

[mzimb]

ZimbaChild - That is minor detail.. Tendai is in the UK.. I know that for sure. It is stupendously narrow minded of you to support a tyrant who has killed his own people just because he hasn't hacked your own granny to bits. You are not clever enough to work out that it could easily be you or your family, there is nothing special about you except if you are related to him. We must not accept criminals as heads of state in Africa. That is always our mistake.

[ilikedasex]

mugabe fucked our home if he doesnt like white people then why does he refuse $30m of aid for the country for his own people, if i ever came face to face with mugabe id make sure he could never walk away, still alive but in alot of pain

[mickeyfromathenry]

com on skehana

[pdagolddy]

and again u gyz really need to think for yrselves .u are crying of hunger when u know the coz it's that Bush and his puppets who gave us sunctions to suffer.They wanted to overthrow the gvt knowing the civilians will suffer.Has it worked no.and also f***ck u Tsvangirai for calling out these sunctions you are just a shame to Africans.Bush and yr puppet pliz just stay awy from zim and concentrate on the shame in iraq let pple solve their own problems coz u only mk it worse.pamberi nevhu

[bombd2]

Pamberi mukoma,masanctions pasi nawo they are hurting our people and causing instability and uproar no one had a problem with the land distribution except the west

[rufushound]

And the Millions in Zim starving are not suffering from land stealing?

The only people benefiting from land stealng are zanu-pf leadership, all the best land is now in their ownership.

Oh, you're in the UK, got a council flat, paid by UK taxpayers, getting benefits from UK taxpayers, a succubus.

you should not be in the UK, people who are fighting for democratic change in Zim should be here, not scum like you.

I'd have filthly dictator loving scum like you on the next flight out!

[pdagolddy]

thank you for speaking the truth Tendai kp doing yr thing man and ignore the haters

[cowboy76]

instead of talking about the past why not talk about the pensions that have been wiped out, the shortages of basic commodities, why people like me are supporting families back home who cannot make ends meet, the people being persecuted, torture and injustice... these are you brothers and sisters suffering and dying....shame on you..

[Kalydosos]

Robert Mugabi represent a strand of African Nationalism that doesn't like the west very much. Similar sentiments can be found all over the developed world if the racists would bother to look

[BUZU69]

Tendia your comments,Kufamba kunoita mhepo

[macafricascot]

Mugabe initiated land reforms in order to win votes afer he almost lost an election in the 90s. When he got to power in 1980 he actually asked White farmers to stay in Zimbabwe (FACT)!!

If he truly wanted to redistribute land he should have spent money educating black farmers.Instead he lined his own pockets.

If MDC take over they will likely invite Whites back and the whole mess will start all over again...Anthoer useless African leader who lets his people down and Africa says he's a hero.

[Bobsbeentaken]

Tendai, you had sent me an email that I accidentally "marked as spam" while negotiating my mouse, and I lost it. I did however, want you to know that I did indeed look at the information that you provided (Aron Russo) etc, which coupled with your letter, has completely changed my opinion of the land reform policy in Zim. Frankly, you are correct in your assessment that it was the right policy in light of how the land was acquired. My apologies my previous, uninformed comments.

[Bobsbeentaken]

I would appreciate it if you would re-send the email, so that I could bookmark the links that you had suggested.

Thank you for your help and the information that provided me with, and I look forward to a future dialogue with you.

[groundsman]

But please bare in mind that the way Mugabe has re-acquired this land is completely wrong. Not only inllegal but he has NOT redistributed fairly at all. Tendai clearly doesn't know this or he has chosen to ignore it. This land has gone predominantly to his ministers as holiday property who have no need to farm it. Other land has gone to those who have not been taught to farm. As a result the people face severe food shortages and economic collapse.

[groundsman]

Also bare in mind that many white farmers purchased their land legally with money they worked to earn long after the original land grab by white settlers. So please don't base your opinion on this from someone who clearly knows nothing more than general ancient history.

[groundsman]

the idea of Land reform is right... most of us white zimbabweans agree with that point. WHAT MUGABE IS DOING IS NOT LAND REFORM. Mugabe is not putting land into the hands of the deserving people but into the hands of his cronies. That land lies baron! Why are you talking about the past... we all know it!!! The past is not the point here... its simply about the mistreatment by Bob of his people! Are you even in Zimbabwe?

[Kalydosos]

Come on Robert Mogabi isn't the best leader ever. However 1897 the Shona were forced off their land. 1965 UDI is declared and over 90% of whites supported it including the farmers. 1966 UK politicians assaulted, Ian Smith was warned by many Harold Wilson being one of them. That he's doing nothing but bringing war and future conflict to Zimbabwe, The British Government. Wasn't very honest with both sides so the Africans can't manage inference won't work this time.

[bavgate07]

this guy is in england talking like this fuck off back to zim and share that bullshit with your fellow zanu pfs and your speaking english aswell we dont wanna hear you piss off

[JustUsIce]

Mugabe is going to die soon... he should be really worried now about the afterlife waiting for him. Hopefully he will scream for eternity..

[ZuluBoy19]

god be with zimbabwe!

[ZuluBoy19]

i agree with parts of what you are saying. not all politicians are corrupt - it stands in the same grounds as you referred to as inexperience within the farm management context. western countries have had organised parliment since the 1600's allowing much time for refining compared with african leaders who are still adopting and adapting these refined rules and regulations representing the backbone of economic strength in western economies and the down fall of zimbabwes economy.

[julvee]

You wasted the space and time. While we tolerate shallow mindedness this is too far.Wateura upenzi apa.You spilled your stupidity.

[19Tendai79]

you throw insults at me instead of using your intelligence to oppose my statements which should supposedly prove that i am foolish if i truly am...

i personal believe your ignorance is not due to lack of intellect but because you have been blinded from the truth for so long that you believe the lies for reality .. seek the truth an the truth would set you free.........

[julvee]

Go on with your dreams. The land issue is not about the colour of your skin. why do you run to grab assets as well as occupying farm houses leaving the land barren if you are eager on farming. Do you do your farming in the bedrooms. Skip it, I am talking to myself. Ya man get all the land and assets and thats the rule of land.

[19Tendai79]

Most people think of slavery as something humans force upon each other, something based on chains, cages and such things. Many are not even aware that there are many different kinds of slavery and that most of them are not based on what humans do to others but our weakness of mind.

[julvee]

I feel so sorry you so stuck in it. Skip.

[groundsman]

That doesn't answer julvee's questions!!

[bombd2]

Mukoma please lets not start insult where its not necessary,what you need to apreciate is the realisation that at some point african countries had to learn how to manage their own economies and farms.China after the world war closed its boarders suffered became self relying and now has one of the fastest growing economy

[mzimb]

I cannot understand the motives of this person. His country is dying with an economy propped up by people sending foreign currency to relatives.. cities with water shortages and constant power cuts.. people forced to walk to the nearest bush for a crap (in the cities) and this imbecile talks endless shit.. MY view on zim part1, MY view on zim part x.. Well YOUR view is shit. You sound like some confused, dumb bonehead trying to carve a political career for yourself.. I wont be voting for you!

[19Tendai79]

Your insults shows that you are emotionally trapped by the truth.Yes all the problems you are saying are true these are the symptoms but the disease is something else my question still stands WHY and WHAT caused these problem and pliz dont strike at the branches and leaves but target the roots.

[asianman123abc]

u tendai = idiot

[Bobsbeentaken]

If you watch this guys videos or read his comments it's like he got himself a copy of "Economics for Dummies" and makes a point of dropping buzz words at every opportunity, but he didn't quite get it. It's kinda weird.

[Bobsbeentaken]

You say you stand %120 behind the "land reform policy", which gave white owned land to landless blacks. First, did you know that there were only 250,000 indigenous people in the entire country when the colonizers came? And most of the land that the colonizers took for farming were virgin lands; i.e nobody claimed ownership, because nobody was there. But blacks from other countries flocked to these farms for work and a better standard of living so by 1980, their numbers had grown to 12 million.

[MBAVHA]

I agree that the guy has a shallow view of issues at hand and so do you! Im a black Zimbabwean and your pub statistics you stated do not justify the whites taking that land. whether it was "virgin land" or my forefather's favourite spooning joint. The fact remains, it belonged to the blacks. I hate Mugabe, but its white arrogant punks like you that make me look at Bob in better light. how dare you claim the land was just there waiting for you?

[Bobsbeentaken]

Ooh! The higher moral authority because you're a black Zimbabwean. I'm sorry, of course that makes you right!! But than again, maybe that just makes you a black Zimbabwean.

[Bobsbeentaken]

During the 100 years that the "alien white people" had to develop the commercial farms, they had to INVENT things like Tractors, Combines, pest insecticides, build infrastructure,ect. You had all that knowledge, plus the equiptment and a fully functional farm handed to you on a silver plate (actually you took it from the white farmers at the point of a gun)and your people did nothing with these properous farms but watch them wither and rot. And you want another 93 years to figuire it out?

[jrkomichi]

Dude, I am a Zimbabwean and I will tell you this we do not need land. It does not matter which hands the land is in, as long as it benefits the economy and not a few highly placed officials and relatives.

[2oulik]

well you won't understand cause u still living in the caves this is the present so you may have to get used to that! oh and everything is black labour to u. do u think white people or coloured people don't work? jo gut mase p..s! Go suck on bob's left testicle!

[2oulik]

Get in touch with reality dude!!!! How old are you? Why are you fighting something in the past brew?? Wake up and smell the coffee!!!

[2oulik]

just to top it off how did u know when the "white people' came and took over your home land. se gut mase poes!!! fila da puta da grunde caralio!!!! f u just wake up!!! stupid! racist m f er!!!!!!!

[mzimb]

The views expressed on this video seem at best a little naive or at worst very clever propaganda by the Mugabe regime.

[mzimb]

It is absolutely unbelievable that after all that has happenned to Zimbabwe all you can dwell on is some academic discussion justifying Mugabe's stance on land reform?! What about:

1. the state of Zimbabwe's so called economy?

2. the criminal acts perpetrated by this regime (including the mass killing of Matebeles in 1983)?

3. The torture and killing of opposition politicians?

4. the daily suffering of ordinary Zimabweans.. etc etc

[mzimb]

On the subject of land reform. No one can deny that in most cases the land was stolen from the indigenous peoples but that does not warrant criminal acts by the state. A state with all its apparatus and means should not have to resort to hiring thugs to kill people to turf them out of farms. That is criminal. Criminal acts are criminal whatever the skin colour, tribe or political affiliation of the victim. To ignore these basic facts and pontificate at length about some "learning" is very wrong.

[chrispeeez]

..... 'gold and tobacco' - it's not just valued to western society but eastern too. All Humans are indigenous to Africa. Yes Africa has been exploited and in alot of ways ...badly by the Europeans. But the only way to rise up is for the Nations of Africa to stop moaning about the past, get some education and oust the corrupt dictators.

[riccorich]

Foreal i can agree to that... Only the african people in africa can make things better for themselves.

[NdiniTari]

I respect u for expressing yo'self.Ini zve Zim zvandikona.All I'm gonna do is pray.

[busanyathi]

wats up. i think praying is a good idea, but we have to find a solution to our problem. sitting back wont help. the big question is what to do. God helps those who help themselves. my view is we are the only people to improve the situation but im not sure how.

[busanyathi]

Hey u! have you been to zimbabwe within the last few yrs? do u know wat it looks like now? sorry to say but you talk like someone who is lost touch with your country. there is no life............

[cairnsbank]

Can no one see reality. You say the white farmers have been there for 100 years. WRONG. They have been there for generations. It is not an excuse saying that they have had time to get it right and the natives haven't. The sad fact is that to be profitable you must have knowledge, skill, capital and economic scale of operation.

[xmahlangeni]

We had given th title deed system so much strength that our banks had shelled out

large loans based on them.Our allies had invested heavily in agriculture.We needed land reform but we sorely needed a functional method to safeguard our interests as a country.u see 19Tendai79 the land reform was basically a political gimmick that borrowed its credebility from historic wrongs

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[xmahlangeni]

You dont shoot yourself in the foot becoz u dont like the colour of your shoe.You wear it till you

can afford a replacement.

settlers could afford to unceremoniously drive away anyone from any land they desired & I am sorry

but we couldn't.We stood 2 lose more.We have since became a agro-economy & you can never implement

land reform overnight in those

circumstances.

[cairnsbank]

You have to be joking. Why have people not got any common sense when it comes to looking at the facts. Name one African country that looks after its people!!!!

[19Tendai79]

Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty

by Plato

[busanyathi]

yes but No but yes no but stupid boy

[busanyathi]

damn it...we look after uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[cairnsbank]

Dividing into smaller plots does not accomplish this. Also the ones that were hurt the most were the farm workers who by and large were reasonably well looked after by the owner ie: schools, housing. This is not to say it was perfect but at least it was better than it is now.

[zvonondinetsa]

kana usina nyaya better kunyarara kwete kutaura zvisina basa

you got your land back and now hunger

[19Tendai79]

zvonondinetsa - you are a big fool we got the land back yes under what conditions. see the bigger picture.you are playin a game that you cannt win cos u dont make the rules

[chrismikro]

What I can't understand is, If it was the land of the blacks, what happened to all the building and homes that the black people have build in Zimbabwe when the British thieves got there, it was bare country, there were no buildings in the whole of Zimbabwe except for the Zimbabwe runes that was build by white people more than 500 years ago and was plundered by the Kois. Long before there was any black people. The black peoples origin was in Asia and they migrated south to Africa.

[ChigutiroHamadziripi]

We don't give a toss. How many years has it been now since your politicians started that campaign of insanity of my country? ... and have we all died then from lack of support from you? Check it out, WE DONT GIVE A F**K about being liked by YOU because that equals the same principles by which one can be friends with the DEVIL, TO SELL ONE'S SOUL. We have refused to sell our soul (LAND) to you and just get it through your stupid thick skulls

[ChigutiroHamadziripi]

The reason Mbuya nehanda mobilised the masses to fight the invading whites was because of the land. The reason why the children of Zimbabwe died in the 1970's armed struggle was because of the LAND. How dare you WHITE PIGS want to continue opressing us right there on the very thing that we so highly value? Just F**k off the Zimbabwean LAND and see if we care about you.

[ChigutiroHamadziripi]

F**k them whites!! We, the black people are proud of where our roots are and we will always be patriotic to our sovereignity. Like Tendai rightly put it across, our pride since the beginning of the African man's existance has always been in the land he occupies, the livestock he owns, the happiness of not only his immediate family, but also that of his neighbours family.

We are a sociable people, peace loving and highly regarding of our LAND.

[ChigutiroHamadziripi]

Tendai, u r definitely right, the land belongs to the black man. AFRICAN LAND BELONGS TO THE BLACK AFRICAN. A white mans place is in the white man's country (the west) and the blackman's land is in the black man's continent (Africa). ...and there is nothing called a WHITE AFRICAN in this world. AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE BLACK (for goodness sake).

These white pigs think that they can control everyone in this world by means of financial and economic influences on all aspects of human living?

[Armitage2]

I support this message, land reform is definitely necessary. The colonial bloodsuckers have vamped the wealth of Zimbabwe for far too long.

[2observant]

Tendi sys Wht frms took 100ys to learn to frm - wht absolte rubbish, they were succesfl lng befre tht and strtd wth nothing, why wd Blks tke 93yrs and strt wth evrytng incldng stln assets. The endng of ths is fntstic as he stumbles with as we get our lnd back "OH GOSH" he sys as he dosnt know what to say he will do, HaHa, if I ws Blck I wld tell ths guy stop recrding as he hasn't thght anytng thrgh befre dng this.

[2observant]

The Frms Union mre thn fufilld the quota set by gov for lnd required for distribtin in 1st case. Not all Blacks want be frmers anyway. It was purly politicl for vote grabbn without consideratn for the consquences. He clms Whts value tob & gld versus Blcks value child, stck, as if Whts dnt value ths thngs, anyway he is enjoyng the benfits of ths thngs by being in U.K!

[2observant]

Tendi says BEFORE our frefthrs tht was Our land- befre yr frefthers tht was actly the KOI SAN (bushmns land) thy wre frcd out, (thy hve no say as just a peceful v.smal group livng mainly in Bots now) & thn the Shona (which Tendi is) wre being killd for bttle traning & to steal their grain etc, by the Mandebele befre ths practice was stopd by none other than Rhodes. So at wht point does it stop. Remembr thre only 300 000 Bantu at arrivl of Whits, now apprx 13mill in little ovr 100ys, due to what?

[jagfish1964]

Ok, you got your land back. The whites are almost all gone. Now whatcha gonna do, black man? Mugabe's Zimbabwe=Castro's Cuba. A shithole of poverty, disease, and death.

[mikiknstik]

Don't listen to this man's lies, we need to stand together and make democratic decisions for our children who are suffering. What does it matter who migrated to Zimbabwe first, the Khoisan and Bantu were there before Mwene Mutapa, the Ndebele and the English. If you love our land then we should put ethnicity behind us and fight for true freedom which involves sorting out corrupt politicians and angry racist thugs.

[mikiknstik]

We should be thankful for all of the aid that we get from the west because you, my brother are not suffering, there are more than 6 million unemployed Zimbabweans, more than 3 million are infected with HIV/AIDS, we are suffering from the highest inflation ever recorded and we are all struggling to eat, while you record this rubbish. You are disloyal to your people and this hate is what is killing Zimbabwe.

[mikiknstik]

You can blame anyone you want for the starvation, economic collapse and AIDS epidemic in Zimbabwe but that doesn't change the fact that Mugabe and ZANU PF have destroyed our home. What happened to the promises he made us 27 years ago. We need an unselfish government that puts prejudice and greedy agendas aside to rebuild the health, education, legal, agricultural and financial sectors.

[mnmlambo]

Chipo even if the war vets do go against him nothing whatsoever would happen to him. The issue is abt who rules who financially, think abt it

[mnmlambo]

Thot of joining, u c its not really abt Mugabe, its that e whites wanted 2 rule with the farms coz we did all the work & they got e returns, Mugabe changed it, tell me is the sanctions doing any harm to Mugabe,no,whites are showing that they rule & our President is saying not for long, we will rule our country economically even though we are on a down fall, we wil rise, lets be strong & we will get there, that is if we work together.

[chipo02904]

dude! you ought to be ashamed of your self do u not know that it is because of that land reform the economy started going bad,that Beast(bob)has done nothing but destroy zimbabwe,u are so dumm i am so ashamed for you,

[19Tendai79]

Chipo

It is not hard to explain the function of and money and the application of loans or to be in debited to another country or the world bank IMF (but lengthy) etc..you need understand that fully the capitalism hierarchy,the banking system and its history, and the political power and history of the Persian Greek and roman Empires then you would be able to get to gripes about the tentacles of the British empire.

[19Tendai79]

I am not in support of Mugabe at all but you have to understand it is a fight against a system that was going to enslave us all.I question the fact that before the IMF lent Zimbabwe money did they do a credit check first. Things really went down when just before (ESAP) remember. I would advise you to watch the last part of movie roots where you would understand that it is slavery of the mind and nothing more.

[chipo02904]

well we all know that mugabe kicked out the white farmers for his own selfish reasons so he can stay in power ,coz who did he give the land to ? The war vets and his supporters who have no idea whatsoever how to run a farm it was not a land reform rather it was a way for him to hold on to power ,if those war vets go against mugabe they will loose those farms just like that .anyway as long as u r not in support of mugabe all is good.

[19Tendai79]

Nothing is worst then those that think that there are free yet they are enslaved---Goethe

note this rule of thumb who ever owns the land owns the people on it.

Further info

• infowars dot com

• Download "money masters" "money as debt"

• Read on history of roman empire

[19Tendai79]

Tyranny of the Invisible Hand & Market Capitalism and Elite Rule

[ieas29]

once again another example of black ineptitude bears its ugly head (Zimbabwe). A once thriving nation sent into ruins once in the hands of a black man...bell curve anyone?

[clamfinger]

Finally you got it your way but at what cost.. If some one gets some thing they are not reafy for they are gonna mess it up thats what you guys did. Thats is what you guys are doing. ITs genocide and i dont remember the last time that it was envogue. I am not prejudice i am for human rights and for reparrations of all who have been done wrong. Even in your case. 19tendai76 one last thing.. dont you even think ablout calling me a racist because that is exactly what you are.

[clamfinger]

You and your people were not there before the white farmers. Quick history lesson the boars were there second only to the bushmen who were also killed via a zosa genocide.  My exactly is that you were all born in africa & are citizens of africaand you endorse the killing of your own country men making you a moron. If you were in a war you guys would all be on the same side..Any time you want some thing you think you can get it by genocide// wrong. PaRt 4

[clamfinger]

Dont pretend to me like you dont value gold and diamonds when you yourself put stock in these things. So dont pretend to the world that you dont believe in wealth as you endorse the genocide of your own country men just to obtain their wealth an land.

[clamfinger]

Hmm endoesing genocide that automatically makes you wrong. YOur people are so impatient that they cut the functional tractors up for scrap metal& instant gratification.@that rate 100 years to develop is a pipe dream. Try 200 plus years but like i said your people have not the patience required..part2

[clamfinger]

Your people you speak so highly of in America are guilty of Hate crimes & murder. Zimbabwe,100 years to waste while your people develop the skills? Your people were offerd the chance to learn from Ian Smith, but instead they took his farm.Part one

[3acesn28s]

Those white farmers were doing a good job of feeding the country. It was a fools move, evicting them. Africans are Africans, black or white. You've made yourself appear a heartless racist in front of god and everybody. Seriously, you should join those heroic people who dare to speak out against Mugabe if you really love your country and your fellow Afican brothers and sisters, which should mean all, black or white. Think man.

[19Tendai79]

sh^t i hope i am getting you right. "Those white farmers were doing a good job of feeding the country." so what you are trying to say is that the white farmers where the giving hand and the blacks the receiving mouths.or in other words the black should be dependent on the whites (so where is the independences there). note the one who is dependent is the one that is a slave to the person he/she is dependent on.

[3acesn28s]

Tendai, first off I want to thank you for responding to me. What I'm trying to point out is that food production is very important to maintain a healthy population. People, Africans were already in place, producing enough. Now production is low and crisis is upon the population. It cant be avoided. Instead of being dependant on white farmers who at least produced enough, your fellow countrymen and yourself will be dependant on foriegn aid if lucky enough to get it. Im almost out of space soo..

[3acesn28s]

We all depend on farmers. Ginen a choice, I'd depend the local guy, not foreign aid that had to make it past my crooked government. The children of zimbabwe are to important to sacrafice on principal. Mr Mugabe tricked you by encouraging you to concentrate on your hatred to distract you from the real prize. You cant excuse his behaviour because hes a politician. They get their power from the consent of the people. Racism stinks, poor people need to stick together.

[butybgtym]

sure thing,hit it bro i sure can give you an amen

[fixzimbabwe]

Land reform is not new, it happens in the UK as well.

Large landowners lose 30% of their land on inheritance so that land becomes available for investment. It also urges the rich to be productive and move their lazy asses. A similar scheme in Zimbabwe would have assured a smooth redistribution of land. Willing buyer, willing seller is not enough.

[20037300]

Tendai totally agree with you, it was long overdue. Its done, its done and its irreversible. its funny how white farmers expect to be given back the illicitly acquired land and on top of that compensation, for what? did we get any compensation when they stole it frm us? Thats utter nonsense of the highest order.

[19Tendai79]

is good know that you can see things from my point of view...but there is a bigger problem in the horizon and that is theform of NWO (new world order) which is going to slowly enslave mankind. and africa is the first to go.....followed by asian then the poorer communities of the rich nations. get ready our freedom is at stake

[bazungu86]

You bloody black savage

[19Tendai79]

why am i a savage because what i say is painfully true well boo woo...aliens from another land came to take over our land and they have the nerve to call me savage...i dont think so

[jxhensley]

See you in a hundred years, after you've "learned"... if there's any of you left.

[19Tendai79]

well there would be lots of me left...through my children and my children's children just like you folks....

[jxhensley]

Life expectancy 35 years and falling

[19Tendai79]

QUESTION:Life expectancy 35 years and falling ANSWER:PART1look here in this world we have 2 basic simple functions 1) to survive 2)to reproduce

now let's look a there age group that is passing on to the after-life they are the economicially and sexually active group and this is mainly due to HIV. Now explain this how is it possible to blame gvt for sexual acts that are been done behind closed door.

[19Tendai79]

QUESTION:Life expectancy 35 years and falling ANSWER:PART 2 the problem with zimbabwean men especially is that they have a tendency to have multiple partners and believe in the stupid slogan of"what is the use of having a sweet with its wrapping on it" thus destroying the survivial element and then also destorying reproductive element too. but on the other hand it wld be gvt responibiity to change the mind set of those that are naive.

[jxhensley]

By the way, what part of "learning" is it when Mugabe's cronies don't even plant their land but let it sit idle?

[19Tendai79]

QUESTION:Life expectancy 35 years and falling ANSWER:PART 3 and further more promote test before sex and promote the fact that one sexual partner wld provide better survival and reproductive strategy..

[lesta09]

you seem to have a good heart and alot of love for Zim, but you should be little more knowledgeable when you present such a tough argument. I don't fully agree with you but you have some good points. the land reform program, in my opinion, was long overdue but was done far too hastily. We shot ourselves in the foot by driving the whites out so forcefully

[SIGNAL75]

the reason you are bhind it - is because you are a CIO

agent ,being paid by fu"" pig bob mugabe . who will

not help you when we find you - f""k pig - lock your

door the white pigs are comming -7.62

[SIGNAL75]

go back to youre cattle and goats - you preaching

piece of shit - you dont give a fuck for your fellow

tribe - us white men do!! we care - unlike you -u

corrupt money grabbing black f""""

[SIGNAL75]

if gold or tobacco(sp) mean nothing to you, why are u

sitting in a joburg flat, in front of a computer telling us this crap - bet you enjoy the hillbrow

nightlife with uncle bobs bucks - you should b shot

u skum - and u will - time is on our side - shithd

[zimboy22]

its fair and fine to give the land back but do you think its fair or fine to kill the white zimbabweans in the process

[19Tendai79]

ok they get oil from the north sea but y are they one of thye richest countries