Love this vid. I have Z32TT on stock engine/turbos with some upgrades pushing maybe 360whp. Much easier to achieve 500whp on 2jz but I wouln't get rid of my Z for anything. It'll take awhile before I reach 500whp though because my engine/turbos are still healthy.
nice cars but I would have liked to see better races out of the two. the only race i saw that was reasonably lined up, the Supra had the lead at the go but quickly let off. who knows what would happen if both lined up right and stayed on it.
@lazysan DIdnt' mean to remove your other post. But dude, these cars were all on pump gas. A standard ball bearing T67 on the 2JZ is going to net around ~500 RWHP on pump gas give or take. Sure on race gas they could see high 600's and maybe 700 RWHP with built head, but that wasn't the case here.
@lazysan many times in the video you can see that the 300zx lags a little at the start but has much better top end. in general that's true, which is why jun made a 300zx go faster than a bugatti veyron, but after several years they couldn't do the same with a supra.
@mikk999 Wait, you're suggesting that a car known as the highway king, being a Supra, which is well known for it's ungodly top end power couldn't be built to take on a Veyron? A Car that is capable of upwards to 1,800 whp and holds the fastest standing mile record for a 6 speed? I'm sorry but I'm going to need some facts here. Not saying it can't be but considering everything else, it seems far fetched to me.
@lazysan Look for these 2 things in Google (both are on the Jun Auto site):
jb-z32
akira-supra
This shows an example of two cars built to do the same thing, by Jun Auto, one of the most respected tuning houses for Japanese cars in the World. Even with a bigger budget and much longer development time, the Supra was still 19kmh short. In terms of performance for land speed records that is a HUGE difference. The 300ZX record in that class remains unbeaten.
@lazysan I'll also point out that unless another Supra has recently beat it, that is still the fastest (top speed) Supra in the world. In fact it was the fastest Toyota in the world for awhile. But still slower than a Veyron.
builds they look good but the perfect z couldnt be best explained other than by top gear guys the 1989 300zx tt they had (same body style as the 90 it was supposed to be a 89) proves nissan got better as they went into the 90s but the 350 and 370 are still slower then the 1996 300zx tt true perfection btw 2 best imports supra 300zx tt
@bombaboy12 The insurance on any car is really going to be based more off your record than anything else. The car itself is pretty affordable insurance because of its age. Liability will be rather standard and full coverage will be a toss up if its even available depending on your provider. Many insurance companies will no longer insure the Z32 with full coverage due to its age.
@bombaboy12 lls unless u hit and killed someone u should be ok...i pay like 208 for my Z and i have full coverage a shitload of moving violations and a DUI lls
@bombaboy12 lls unless u hit and killed someone u should be ok...i pay like 208 for my Z and i have full coverage a shitload of moving violations and a DUI lls
NIce what kind of turbos??? i got a 91 tt with gt2530's making 608whp to the wheels. fully built motor by Stillen. Ive yet to race a supra but i beat bikes.
Well I think he was stating that the supra wasn't a lateral set up like the Z but was a sequential turbo set up. Or possibly he's just dense, either way, both are great cars. I still like my Z more than supras.
whats all done to the z, i only ask cause its pushin 650hp i just started doing more to mine bored .30 over with forged pistons, gt28 turbos cliped an honed, full 3.5 inch exhaust no cat, headers, just waitn for my 850 injectors fuel rails dual intake's an better fuel pump an ill be running 17psi im hopin to be 550 on 93 octane basically just wanna know if theres more then that done to this one
some people hate the turbo lag on the Z, but i enjoy it. one minute the supra might think "yeah i got that fool" next minute "fuck you...you asshole!!!" hahaha
oh man, that 300zx makes me droollll, and the engine noise, ohhh i can't express, and of course supra's are retarted fast and beautiful, butmy hearts with the 300zx
@FFRPWNER1 You're about 2 psi short on max psi for stock turbos. Though it's very capable of pushing more so long as you've done other mods. For example, running a fuel system to support e85 would mean your motor runs cooler, which would enable you to push your stock turbos further. I had a friend who was pushing his stock turbos to 20 psi and they lasted quite awhile.
i just got a 1991 300zx N/A 2+2 and i love it but going from an automatic 92 4 runner to a 300zx stick was scary at first i drifted on accident lol i finally got driving a stick shift down now, but after drifting on accident in rush hour traffic scared me lol so im kinda scared of the car. i plan to put a twin turbo kit on it or a single turbo on it dont know yet but it cost alot! I LOVE SUPRAS AND 300ZX'S BUT SUPRAS LOOK SEXIER!
@ElectricFrankie go twin turbo its better becuz the single turbo as u saw here in these supras u would think they would do alot but twin turbos give u best of both worlds lil low end and high end power as u saw the z32 demonstrate because twin turbo systems have a smaller and bigger turbo the smaller turbo requires less exhaust pressure then that of the bigger turbo so not much lag there so while the small turbo is doing it thing the 2nd turbo is right behind ready to kick in for top end power
@ElectricFrankie uhm i would just get the whole engine cuz the whole thing configured diff the block is a diff i think the compression i would add the turbos to ur n/a cuz the compression is high already the twin turbo engine is lower compression for example an NA engine is 9 or 10:1 compression thats too high for turbo or supercharger u need a lowe compression engine like 8:1 compression for example i dont like hondas but i wanted to turbo a 4cyl dont every force induct a vtec engine go LS
@Z32spdstr the LS integra engine is beefier the block is bigger so why not have both huh? the gsr doesntr have that kick only top en cuz the vtec kicks in at 5000 grand i think turbos kick in at 2500 or 3000 grand then your top end kicks in even more then the vtec will ever make. so yeah just change the whole engine u'll spend more money on trying to rebuild the engine for turbo when u can swap and hhave extra money for the upgrades like turbos waste gates which is where the boost comes from
I used to own a 350Z; got it in 2006 and looooved that car. I went to jail for speeding (I know, it's stupid but it was fun) and so I got rid of the car and bought a honda civic. in Aug of 2008. I only have 2 more years to go before the lease is up and I plan on getting either a 370Z or a 300ZX Twin Turbo, which I would then modify step by step.
@FFRPWNER1 well I'm running 20psi on stockers with supporting mods and lemme tell you I did feel quite a noticeable difference going from 16lbs to 20. Although it boosts up to 20psi, it drops back down to 16 at 7K+ rpm.
@FFRPWNER1 Don't take it from me, talk to Greg Dupree who ran 24lbs on a customer's car. Greg Duprees' 450 WHP record has been broken since as someone broke 500 WHP on stock turbos earlier this year.
@joe645733 I use a Borg Warner s480 for my 13b RX-8. Almost as big as my engine ( which is not saying much since it is technically a 1.3 liter engine)
the supra holds value because it was in the fast and the furious....which i blame for all ricey cars out there...
supra is nice...but its overpriced and the parts for it are too......
nearly stock supra tt 60,000 miles = 30 grand
nearly stock 300zx tt 60,000 miles = 10 grand
put 20 grand into the zx you have a car as fast as 60000 dollar supras for half the price and the zx is timeless one of the most beautiful cars ever so its obvious
my buddy got his 300zxTT upgraded at ultimate Z and they sent him home with boost leaks. They said he just needed to get on it. fuck that place That how they treat return customers. what a joke
The Nissan 300ZX was the definitive car of its time. Nothing came close to it in terms of low slung looks, warp factor performance and affordability. Nissan did the impossible. They fitted wheels to a thunder storm !!
i have a 1991 300zx and for the car to be 20 years old its still handles better, performes better and looks better.... so all u 4 bangers dont even try to compete cuz the z kills most v8s
Z's are rare, and highly over looked and under rated... I love those things. So amazing for their time Period. Thank you Nissan for makeing this car and distributing it in the States, and every where else.
Wow On this Video there barely eney Buckin light that no1 could fuckin see in the beging! Lol But Nice Awsome Video and nice Nisson 300zx! I own a Nisson 300zx also! Lol.
@300zxMaster1 z are one of the fastest acclerating car of thier time in a long race supra would own(supra driver kept breaking lil pussy he sceard of power)
LOL Looks like the Supras are trying to bully the Z but the Z pulls off on they azz! No disrespect all three of the cars are badass but the Z is nicee!
haahah 300zx!! baby. got my 91 TT in nov. fuckin love that car!! running on 13 psi right now with about 400HP. Hard to work on but it's worth the while. cus there's nothin like leavin everyone in the dust in a Z.
my cousin's friend had a 94 300zx he had so much under the hood, it had around 650 hp had tt, intake, headers, exhaust, i think it had a blow off valve maybe the engine was originally turbo charged
this is back in 06. The Supra is a 5spd NA-T with a T67 running about 21lbs on race gas, and 17 on pump. At 0:40 the supra pulls but it ran very low on race fuel, so the AEM cutout as a way to prevent engine damage. Supra had to go to a local chevron. After that all runs were on 93octane. TT Z's have a badass top end, na supras dont. But its impressive how the supra was there considering the fact that the Z had race fuel all night and the rear end advantage.dont ask me how i know. i just know.
the z has done things that the supra hasnt. the supra is a sexy and fast car but the z is still a legend. supras are a short conversation. but above all its all about the drive and thats up to the driver to decide. niether cars are for every1. ps: GO Z GO!!
The 93 Twin Turbo Supra's have a Getrag 6 speed transmission (V160), which is the same company that makes transmissions for the R34
The 86.5-92 Turbo Supra's have a R154, which is good for 500+ the only problem is the thrust washer and the transmissions don't like to be power shifted.
Other then that, The transmissions for the supras are pretty strong. May need rebuild after a while, but strong
nice! Zeds are awesome.....however..... which car will run like that day after day without breaking? That would be the Supra. And I can say that... I own a Zed
That's a ridiculous comment to make. Neither car will take abuse forever. Far too many factors to say which one would last longer than another. You can't even accurately compare them like that.
When a Z is fully built or rebuilt the Z will take a real beating.
The Supra on the other hand, for the potantial that it has, it has one of the weakest tranys there is. all 90's toyota vehicles are infamous for their weak tranys. im sure engine will last, for sure.
also, these are 6 cylinder engines... but a 4 banger honda with over 500 hp, no you would have a point. thats just not meant to be done. maybe like once a year run or so
Actually that's true too. I forgot about the weak Supra Tranny. Seen one blow up at the streeet drags. Didn't even get to launch lol. Were as the Z32 gear box is built like a brick sh*t house. In face, it the gear box of choice when the 180/200/240sx boys decide to upgrade. :D On that, I'll agree! And I'll conceed that the VG bottom end is quite strong too, but the fact remains the overalll engine of the supra is stronger, lasts longer, and is faaaaar eaiser to work on. I Still love the Z .
You are very wrong claiming the supra Getrag tranny is weak go look up Ryan Woons Supra located in AZ. That car is pushing 1400 hp on the stock 6 speed tranny. Thats far more than the what the 300zx tranny is capable of...
Are you serious? The v160 is probably the best tranny to ever hit the states.
C'mon, the Z32 can't take the beating like MKIV can. That's a fact! I owned about 5 TT z32's in my life time, and not once did I ever hit beyond 402RWHP on BPU+++ upgrades. On my 94 TT BPU+ I hit 416RWHP without a problem. C'mon! Don't say the z32 has the same potencial, because it doesn't unless you drop big money on the car. Any car can go fast with dinero my friend. But the MKIV can hit 400RWHP with simple BPU!
This is true. I'm a Z32 TT owner myself...and it's just true. Not saying I'm happy about it, but it's the truth. If you drop $15k + into the car....both have about the same potential, but for just BPU...Supra definnitely has more potential.
And to settle the score on some of the other commments:
Supra Turbos DO have unbreakable transmissions. 300ZX TT transmissions are weaker UNLESS it is a 98+ spec transmission, which is easily capable of holding 1000+rwhp. And in my opinion, the Z is slightly sexier--although also slightly less reliable, and much more difficult to work on. Both are great cars IMO; Supras are more expensive, but have more out of the box potential. As for the MR2 (hushg2000)...I've heard they leak oil incessantly
Every car leaks oil after being driven for about 17 years. I've had a couple of 91's and a 93. They are great until the water pump goes out, than it's off to pulling the motor down to change a simple water pump, that's the flaw on this car...no room to work on... Oil leak? I never had that problem randomly. My valve cover gaskets and bottom end were solid. Normal maintance and the car runs like a champ.
The Z32's also have one of cheapest injector & coil packs that has ever been installed from the factory! These cars are a piece of shit when it comes to the fuel systems once you hit the 100k mile. If I had a penny for each Z owner who blew up some internal do to the fuel system failing while making Hwy pulls I would be a rich bastard by now. My nephew has a 1991 TT z32 as we speak, and it has the same fucking issue it always has, injectors!!!:( Damn, the Mr2's do a better job in that deparment.
I have bought several Z's in the past with 100K+ miles w/ their original injectors and coil packs. I simply dissagree with what you are saying since I have never really saw them being an issue.
to me the biggest issues on the Z have been the old worn out wireharnesses and rubber coolant hoses.
I usually treat the car with Lucas Gas Oil once a year to clean injectors. Coilpacks, never gone bad. on this car you do need money, since everything is old, and old shit breaks.
I only enjoy highway racing. Dead stops are just too much damage to any car in my opinion
My top Z is fully built with too many things to name but has .40+ wiseco pistons, disco potato turbos, 740cc PE injectors, and was personally tuned by Ashspec. It pushes about 750 HP. Fully built to me also means, all new undercarriage, suspension, relocations, and great paint.
On injector problems again, its usually the fuel rail and lower intake plenum. Just get some newstyle Nismo 555's.
If you think like me, you would replace internals for any car that will go over 500 whp. The Stock TT's internals are good for 700 HP, dont get me wrong, but the idea of upgrading is for ASSURANCE.
Any TTZ will give you those numbers too (w/ injectors/turbos/ecu upgrades).
Personally I rather build it.
My built Z's internals are all rated for over 1200HP, but I wasnt going for that. Maybe with some race gas and timing change I would hit 1K
@Foxy300ZX Stock pistons on the 300zx are cast and will not hold out for very long beyond 500rwhp with detonation being an enevitable (cast parts are not a good candidates for boost). The rods and crank are forged though. Supras definetly have more potential out of the box and are a hell of alot easier to work on. Plus Ryan Woon's WOTM car has demonstrated on numerous occasions that the stock 6 speed Getrag can withstand 1400hp.
It doesn't last forever like that. I have many Supra friends that break their cars even at 550 RWHP. It's all in the setup and tune. And there have been Z's making 750 RWHP on stock internals. The only true difference between the Z and Supra as far as potential goes, is the owners of Supras dump MUCH MUCH MUCH more money into bigger and better setups than Z owners do. Too many TT guys dick around with weak ass tiny turbos trying to squeeze out everything they can because they're afraid of lag.
it's more than that...it's about practicality. Perhaps most Z owners don't want to race around on a hwy all day? Perhaps they drive it daily or perhaps they don't care about peeling out in every gear?
ya i agree with this. i know first hand i make parts for Z1 MOTORSPORTS the biggest aftermarket company for z32's in the world. most z guys get 555cc injectors basic mods and and push 18psi on stock turbos usually average whp is 480 on stock turbos. but the vg will handle 750whp for about a year and one month then they detonate i own one thats why im going with carillo rods and weisco pistons for ASSURANCE these will handle 1500whp no prob.
No one makes 480 RWHP on stock turbos without nitrous. The highest recorded power made on stock turbos was 450 RWHP and that was Greg Dupree @ Specialty Z.
Show me any dyno graph of a stock turbo Z32 making 480 RWHP. I don't care if its a dynojet. Hell show me a 450 RWHP on a Mustang dyno. Sport 500's don't count. Nitrous doesn't count. The only person to grace 450 was Greg Dupree on a customer's car @ 24 lbs.
Okay so now you're just going off what people claim. If you're going to throw around the fact you "make parts for Z1" you should actually know what you're talking about before you just post hearsay
Message Got my car tuned this past friday during a visit to Specialty-Z. Thanks to Greg and Seb were able to get me on the dyno. Here are the numbers, not to bad on stock turbos.
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Message Got my car tuned this past friday during a visit to Specialty-Z. Thanks to Greg and Seb were able to get me on the dyno. Here are the numbers, not to bad on stock turbos.
Three runsGreen = 91 OctaneBlue = 100OctaneRed = Q16
@dipzag21 To make 450+ on stock turbos you're going to need every supporting modification out there as well as methanol and/or race fuel. 24lbs+ is needed from the stock turbos to make over 450 RWHP.
I have to agree with you,the only reason I replaced my injectors was upgrade from stock to 880 to 1000.the motors on over 1khp stock coil packs and engine loom.The box has handled the power well so far.Albeit its a 99 model fairlady z32.
This Z is more powerfull then those supra and he win ! thats it. nice 300 by the way
TheSupra2jzgte 1 week ago
Dam what car the camera man in?
TheRealLouieDeon 4 weeks ago
Hmmm. Looks like Austin Texas..
walkthnyt2000 1 month ago
Vg power all day!!! I love my 32 :D
btyner23 1 month ago
Love this vid. I have Z32TT on stock engine/turbos with some upgrades pushing maybe 360whp. Much easier to achieve 500whp on 2jz but I wouln't get rid of my Z for anything. It'll take awhile before I reach 500whp though because my engine/turbos are still healthy.
Pennychaser1 1 month ago
Z32 for life!! I've driven TTsupras. Z is a better car! Only downfall with the TTz is there a byatch to work on! You have to pay to play!!!
BRANDON19761109 1 month ago
is there a body kit on the z? and if so do u know wat its called?
fatmatt69420 1 month ago
@fatmatt69420 This is late, but I'm pretty sure most, if not all of the body is stock except for the front fascia.
Eyeolus 3 weeks ago
I liked this video so hard by thumb bled.
MountainTomb 4 months ago in playlist 300zx
what is the gas mileage on a 300zx tt?
jazzmusicplayer 4 months ago
love the sound of the Z brake boosting. mine makes the same exact sound and its sooooooo good!!!
omegaboostZ 4 months ago
at 1:47 is the best sounds pshhh!!
InfamousYG 6 months ago
Got both. Love both.
juno4000 7 months ago
i wish this video had better lighting ...such a beautiful video...i stillwatch it over and over..my 2 favorite cars
iiTiiSxWHATxiiTiiS 7 months ago
yea he pwn em !
what that Z got ? single turbo too ???
q8rtcw 7 months ago
@q8rtcw twin
streetcivic09 6 months ago
Z32 FTW.....
nissanguy99 7 months ago
nice cars but I would have liked to see better races out of the two. the only race i saw that was reasonably lined up, the Supra had the lead at the go but quickly let off. who knows what would happen if both lined up right and stayed on it.
lazysan 8 months ago
@lazysan DIdnt' mean to remove your other post. But dude, these cars were all on pump gas. A standard ball bearing T67 on the 2JZ is going to net around ~500 RWHP on pump gas give or take. Sure on race gas they could see high 600's and maybe 700 RWHP with built head, but that wasn't the case here.
FlawleZ31 8 months ago
@lazysan last race they where all lined up good and WOT...
Tj1056 6 months ago
@lazysan many times in the video you can see that the 300zx lags a little at the start but has much better top end. in general that's true, which is why jun made a 300zx go faster than a bugatti veyron, but after several years they couldn't do the same with a supra.
mikk999 2 months ago
@mikk999 Wait, you're suggesting that a car known as the highway king, being a Supra, which is well known for it's ungodly top end power couldn't be built to take on a Veyron? A Car that is capable of upwards to 1,800 whp and holds the fastest standing mile record for a 6 speed? I'm sorry but I'm going to need some facts here. Not saying it can't be but considering everything else, it seems far fetched to me.
lazysan 2 months ago
@lazysan Look for these 2 things in Google (both are on the Jun Auto site):
jb-z32
akira-supra
This shows an example of two cars built to do the same thing, by Jun Auto, one of the most respected tuning houses for Japanese cars in the World. Even with a bigger budget and much longer development time, the Supra was still 19kmh short. In terms of performance for land speed records that is a HUGE difference. The 300ZX record in that class remains unbeaten.
mikk999 2 months ago 2
@lazysan These are cars that run on normal gas, still have a normal chassis, have lights, and don't have bodies made mostly of fibreglass.
mikk999 2 months ago
@lazysan I'll also point out that unless another Supra has recently beat it, that is still the fastest (top speed) Supra in the world. In fact it was the fastest Toyota in the world for awhile. But still slower than a Veyron.
mikk999 2 months ago
builds they look good but the perfect z couldnt be best explained other than by top gear guys the 1989 300zx tt they had (same body style as the 90 it was supposed to be a 89) proves nissan got better as they went into the 90s but the 350 and 370 are still slower then the 1996 300zx tt true perfection btw 2 best imports supra 300zx tt
Aege21009 8 months ago
i want a Z really bad, anybody know how the insurance is? hahaha
bombaboy12 8 months ago
@bombaboy12 The insurance on any car is really going to be based more off your record than anything else. The car itself is pretty affordable insurance because of its age. Liability will be rather standard and full coverage will be a toss up if its even available depending on your provider. Many insurance companies will no longer insure the Z32 with full coverage due to its age.
FlawleZ31 8 months ago
@bombaboy12 lls unless u hit and killed someone u should be ok...i pay like 208 for my Z and i have full coverage a shitload of moving violations and a DUI lls
MrFAIRL80 5 months ago
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@bombaboy12 lls unless u hit and killed someone u should be ok...i pay like 208 for my Z and i have full coverage a shitload of moving violations and a DUI lls
MrFAIRL80 5 months ago
i love this video!
preprodigy 9 months ago
NIce what kind of turbos??? i got a 91 tt with gt2530's making 608whp to the wheels. fully built motor by Stillen. Ive yet to race a supra but i beat bikes.
aarondc805 9 months ago
Some amazing machines
onegaisti 9 months ago
im in love with a Z..
rofLopolous 9 months ago
Both cars are sick and sexy! I'll take....both. Nice runs!
Twrx2010 9 months ago
Cant put twin turbo on an inline 6. Thats the best that toyota has to offer. lol. Nismo baby!!
MrLiljay8877 10 months ago
@MrLiljay8877 Um, you can definitely make 2JZ's twin turbo.
rmalik23 10 months ago
@MrLiljay8877 oh i get it now .....you are a bit ....slow .... the supra was released with twin turbo
BUILDSforDRIVING 10 months ago
@BUILDSforDRIVING
Well I think he was stating that the supra wasn't a lateral set up like the Z but was a sequential turbo set up. Or possibly he's just dense, either way, both are great cars. I still like my Z more than supras.
MountainTomb 9 months ago
@MountainTomb i am not a fan of the 90's z car but the old school 70's and the 370 is sex on wheels
BUILDSforDRIVING 9 months ago
t67s are not exactly considered big turbos for supras... try a gt4788 we'll see a diff outcome.. Nice race nonetheless
daddyjunkie 10 months ago
@bobbyhill....Not with this Z! Single turbo or twin turbo Supras won't get down with this 300.
djordan19 11 months ago
nissan 300zx is one of the most beautiful jap cars......nissan ftw!!
kchristj 11 months ago
It's like choosing your favorite child. Both are loved.
Nihil2005 11 months ago
yeah but if you think about it the supra with the TT would walk off on the 300
bobbyhill1011 11 months ago
faark that Z is banging!! any idea what its running?
rofLopolous 11 months ago
whats all done to the z, i only ask cause its pushin 650hp i just started doing more to mine bored .30 over with forged pistons, gt28 turbos cliped an honed, full 3.5 inch exhaust no cat, headers, just waitn for my 850 injectors fuel rails dual intake's an better fuel pump an ill be running 17psi im hopin to be 550 on 93 octane basically just wanna know if theres more then that done to this one
brianc187x 1 year ago
Z are fucking Sick. Period
c1110670 1 year ago
some people hate the turbo lag on the Z, but i enjoy it. one minute the supra might think "yeah i got that fool" next minute "fuck you...you asshole!!!" hahaha
l8er 1 year ago
@l8er do you not have a z there twin turbo they barley have turbo lag for that fact thats why some ppl prefer tt's it reduces the lag
brianc187x 1 year ago
i love how the 300zx pulled up like...."who want it?"....and the orgasm @ 1:48..
iiTiiSxWHATxiiTiiS 1 year ago
much respect to both. Pioneers to twin turbo 6cylinders.
Rtree115 1 year ago
of course a twin turbo will beat a single turbo any time its not even a challange but a 300tt vs a supratt that's a good race
buddaha420kmk 1 year ago
The fucking 300zx is the bomb ya supras are chill and all but a supra is no match against a 300zx tt
thekiller4039530 1 year ago
@thekiller4039530 supra is more then a match for a 300zx tt. In this case there both modified but the Z has more power so it obviously takes the win.
BlackxHeartxBlood 1 year ago
oh man, that 300zx makes me droollll, and the engine noise, ohhh i can't express, and of course supra's are retarted fast and beautiful, butmy hearts with the 300zx
sexyboy101 1 year ago 2
Everytime I hear a Z32 TT I get a boner...everytime I see them dust everything I CREAM. Its game over for my boxers and the race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RedRumBoosted 1 year ago
The sound of those turbos moving all that air is beautiful.
243t3ty356134 1 year ago
The supra's need to learn how to drive. I own a z32 tt 370hp love the car would never get rid of it.
jebickers 1 year ago
300z vs supra?? no contest. Id still own a supra over it any day, that zx is minutes away from a rebuild
daddyjunkie 1 year ago
It seems like the supra always missed a gear
Gattsu83 1 year ago
@FFRPWNER1 in gen or specifically Z32 cuz i think u can get the same for FC's and FD's 14-16psi easy 400hp
Z32spdstr 1 year ago
That was my buddy in the 300zx
Kawiracer18 1 year ago
dam, it pulls hard on the top end
just2damcoo 1 year ago
the question is who has spent the most $ on their engine defs not the supra
swat2400 1 year ago
Usually i hate to see supras loose but i guess its ok since 300zxs and supras are rivals.
nitrousboy0311 1 year ago
looks like everyone started in 2nd and then when the Z hit 3rd gear it was gone! 3rd gear is magic for 300zx cars. lol.
DDRcrazy88 1 year ago
damn that z is fast looks like mine :D ...
k9kurtie 1 year ago
@FFRPWNER1 You're about 2 psi short on max psi for stock turbos. Though it's very capable of pushing more so long as you've done other mods. For example, running a fuel system to support e85 would mean your motor runs cooler, which would enable you to push your stock turbos further. I had a friend who was pushing his stock turbos to 20 psi and they lasted quite awhile.
lazysan 1 year ago
i just got a 1991 300zx N/A 2+2 and i love it but going from an automatic 92 4 runner to a 300zx stick was scary at first i drifted on accident lol i finally got driving a stick shift down now, but after drifting on accident in rush hour traffic scared me lol so im kinda scared of the car. i plan to put a twin turbo kit on it or a single turbo on it dont know yet but it cost alot! I LOVE SUPRAS AND 300ZX'S BUT SUPRAS LOOK SEXIER!
ElectricFrankie 1 year ago
@ElectricFrankie go twin turbo its better becuz the single turbo as u saw here in these supras u would think they would do alot but twin turbos give u best of both worlds lil low end and high end power as u saw the z32 demonstrate because twin turbo systems have a smaller and bigger turbo the smaller turbo requires less exhaust pressure then that of the bigger turbo so not much lag there so while the small turbo is doing it thing the 2nd turbo is right behind ready to kick in for top end power
Z32spdstr 1 year ago
@Z32spdstr what all do u need to change when u put twin turbos on urride i know u need down pipe ad manafold but should i upgrade cams and such?
ElectricFrankie 1 year ago
@ElectricFrankie uhm i would just get the whole engine cuz the whole thing configured diff the block is a diff i think the compression i would add the turbos to ur n/a cuz the compression is high already the twin turbo engine is lower compression for example an NA engine is 9 or 10:1 compression thats too high for turbo or supercharger u need a lowe compression engine like 8:1 compression for example i dont like hondas but i wanted to turbo a 4cyl dont every force induct a vtec engine go LS
Z32spdstr 1 year ago
@Z32spdstr the LS integra engine is beefier the block is bigger so why not have both huh? the gsr doesntr have that kick only top en cuz the vtec kicks in at 5000 grand i think turbos kick in at 2500 or 3000 grand then your top end kicks in even more then the vtec will ever make. so yeah just change the whole engine u'll spend more money on trying to rebuild the engine for turbo when u can swap and hhave extra money for the upgrades like turbos waste gates which is where the boost comes from
Z32spdstr 1 year ago
I used to own a 350Z; got it in 2006 and looooved that car. I went to jail for speeding (I know, it's stupid but it was fun) and so I got rid of the car and bought a honda civic. in Aug of 2008. I only have 2 more years to go before the lease is up and I plan on getting either a 370Z or a 300ZX Twin Turbo, which I would then modify step by step.
TheSmoonge 1 year ago
damn lol... supras gettin beasted on... z32 power
christom 1 year ago
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bapeamania231 1 year ago
@FFRPWNER1 well I'm running 20psi on stockers with supporting mods and lemme tell you I did feel quite a noticeable difference going from 16lbs to 20. Although it boosts up to 20psi, it drops back down to 16 at 7K+ rpm.
omegaboostZ 1 year ago
that 300 is sick nasty man.
Xxdream2sing89xX 1 year ago
@FFRPWNER1 Don't take it from me, talk to Greg Dupree who ran 24lbs on a customer's car. Greg Duprees' 450 WHP record has been broken since as someone broke 500 WHP on stock turbos earlier this year.
FlawleZ31 1 year ago 3
@FlawleZ31 you are correct. a guy on the forums is kickin 499rwhp and 544tq on the stock turbos.
joe645733 1 year ago
@FlawleZ31 Surely rebuilt turbo's though to higher than stock specs - by all accounts they don't gain much from boosting past 18psi
dlongmu 1 year ago
They don't seem that fast. What do you mean by big single turbo? What turbo are they using?
bhoppin18 1 year ago
@bhoppin18 These were T67 cars. Around 550-600 whp Supras. Z was making about 650+ whp.
FlawleZ31 1 year ago 8
@FlawleZ31 T67, k that makes sense. Then I was not surprised, good race.
bhoppin18 1 year ago
@bhoppin18 are you running a bigger turbo than a t67?
joe645733 1 year ago
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bhoppin18 1 year ago
@joe645733 I use a Borg Warner s480 for my 13b RX-8. Almost as big as my engine ( which is not saying much since it is technically a 1.3 liter engine)
bhoppin18 1 year ago
@bhoppin18 oh, well when you posted saying these cars don't look fast i thought you were crazy. t67 is a decent sized turbo.
joe645733 1 year ago
@joe645733 nah dude, I know these cars are fast. When I saw "big single turbo supras", I was thinking 1000hp supras or something crazy, lol....
bhoppin18 1 year ago
@bhoppin18 no disrespect to the z but it looks like the supra missed a gear a couple time( lol the sound of these turbos put a big smile on my face)
bapeamania231 1 year ago
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the supra holds value because it was in the fast and the furious....which i blame for all ricey cars out there...
supra is nice...but its overpriced and the parts for it are too......
nearly stock supra tt 60,000 miles = 30 grand
nearly stock 300zx tt 60,000 miles = 10 grand
put 20 grand into the zx you have a car as fast as 60000 dollar supras for half the price and the zx is timeless one of the most beautiful cars ever so its obvious
supra<300zx
TheAirsoftbeast22 1 year ago
Ahhh, the legendary Z.
cucoloco1 1 year ago
at 01:48 and 02:08 does anyone know wat blow off that is on the 300zx...
PABLORL1989 1 year ago
@PABLORL1989 HKS SSQV
FlawleZ31 1 year ago 3
"I Don't Always Drive Sportscars, But When I Do, I Prefer The Z."
TEUFELHuNDEN420 1 year ago
my buddy got his 300zxTT upgraded at ultimate Z and they sent him home with boost leaks. They said he just needed to get on it. fuck that place That how they treat return customers. what a joke
MultiGetitdone 1 year ago
LOL!!!!!!! love muh nissan...
withered962 1 year ago
The Nissan 300ZX was the definitive car of its time. Nothing came close to it in terms of low slung looks, warp factor performance and affordability. Nissan did the impossible. They fitted wheels to a thunder storm !!
shahspice 1 year ago
sick ass z
marc96accord 1 year ago
God that sound of all three cars accelerating together sounds beautiful. Frickin ungodly lol
redshift1340 1 year ago
i have a 1991 300zx and for the car to be 20 years old its still handles better, performes better and looks better.... so all u 4 bangers dont even try to compete cuz the z kills most v8s
lizardi1989 1 year ago
@lizardi1989 Amen Brother, Nothing can touch a Z. Mine is undefeated champion in Zimbabwe.. and Yes i am a white dude. so fuck ya.. Z.
pmangnall 1 year ago
that z is fucking fast
onesidequeens 1 year ago
what is the Z running with damn?, two of my favorite cars right here
Thevmanrocks 1 year ago
I love 300zx I have one myself what the horse power on the 300zx and the supra
scubapro5000 1 year ago
Z's are rare, and highly over looked and under rated... I love those things. So amazing for their time Period. Thank you Nissan for makeing this car and distributing it in the States, and every where else.
dethpig420 1 year ago 8
Wow On this Video there barely eney Buckin light that no1 could fuckin see in the beging! Lol But Nice Awsome Video and nice Nisson 300zx! I own a Nisson 300zx also! Lol.
ROCKOZON98 1 year ago
That was beautiful :)
Timar123 2 years ago
the Z owned
300zxMaster1 2 years ago 4
@300zxMaster1 z are one of the fastest acclerating car of thier time in a long race supra would own(supra driver kept breaking lil pussy he sceard of power)
bapeamania231 1 year ago
LOL Looks like the Supras are trying to bully the Z but the Z pulls off on they azz! No disrespect all three of the cars are badass but the Z is nicee!
CHVY4LNCH 2 years ago
all i can say is fucking awesome Zed!!!!!
tonza123456789 2 years ago 3
that Z is siiiick
turbozboy 2 years ago 25
haahah 300zx!! baby. got my 91 TT in nov. fuckin love that car!! running on 13 psi right now with about 400HP. Hard to work on but it's worth the while. cus there's nothin like leavin everyone in the dust in a Z.
707umair 2 years ago 27
@707umair I know what you mean I have several Z's
DVcustomZ 9 months ago
my cousin's friend had a 94 300zx he had so much under the hood, it had around 650 hp had tt, intake, headers, exhaust, i think it had a blow off valve maybe the engine was originally turbo charged
BlooDBank101 2 years ago
this is back in 06. The Supra is a 5spd NA-T with a T67 running about 21lbs on race gas, and 17 on pump. At 0:40 the supra pulls but it ran very low on race fuel, so the AEM cutout as a way to prevent engine damage. Supra had to go to a local chevron. After that all runs were on 93octane. TT Z's have a badass top end, na supras dont. But its impressive how the supra was there considering the fact that the Z had race fuel all night and the rear end advantage.dont ask me how i know. i just know.
jcrucesb 2 years ago
fuck i love 300zx but supra is the best
Qc300zx 2 years ago
man i would be pissed if i was that supra driver
spoon55 2 years ago 4
music to my ears(:
xkalexanderx916 2 years ago
That 300zx is not Stock TT!!!
My friend have one 1991 300zx TT VG30DETT is not so fast like this!!!
LeonidK340 2 years ago
Thank you captain obvious. All of the cars you see in this video are quite modded.
FlawleZ31 2 years ago
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z32turbojoe 2 years ago
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Dude i love your 300zx
dipzag21 2 years ago
Wax that ass
GaRy13eaR 2 years ago
goddamn that looks fun big turbos sick import motors harmonizing and shit
r4legend 2 years ago
supra < 300zx ... huge rival, both sick as hell...both have over 1000hp potential, which is more than enough for anyone, but Z is so much sexier
turbozboy 2 years ago 3
why are people talking about a damn 240sx with a 2jzgte. Nissan did not make a 2jzgte that was toyota and that is the cars that should have them.
SXtoZX 2 years ago
so you would put a 2JZ in a camry before a 240sx?
football38 2 years ago
dam cant anyone say wow wat a good race,who gives a shit about trannys and blah fuken blah,two bad ass cars doin wat theyre were built for...speed.
vdub97j 2 years ago 3
the z has done things that the supra hasnt. the supra is a sexy and fast car but the z is still a legend. supras are a short conversation. but above all its all about the drive and thats up to the driver to decide. niether cars are for every1. ps: GO Z GO!!
fulano787 2 years ago 2
Are you retarded,
The 93 Twin Turbo Supra's have a Getrag 6 speed transmission (V160), which is the same company that makes transmissions for the R34
The 86.5-92 Turbo Supra's have a R154, which is good for 500+ the only problem is the thrust washer and the transmissions don't like to be power shifted.
Other then that, The transmissions for the supras are pretty strong. May need rebuild after a while, but strong
Ideal7m 2 years ago
nice! Zeds are awesome.....however..... which car will run like that day after day without breaking? That would be the Supra. And I can say that... I own a Zed
1TB0T 2 years ago
That's a ridiculous comment to make. Neither car will take abuse forever. Far too many factors to say which one would last longer than another. You can't even accurately compare them like that.
FlawleZ31 2 years ago
Dude ur an idiot stock getrang can hold over 1400whp. how the hell is that one of the weekest trannys. get ur facts straight bro do some research
jose94tt6spd 2 years ago
actually, no true.
When a Z is fully built or rebuilt the Z will take a real beating.
The Supra on the other hand, for the potantial that it has, it has one of the weakest tranys there is. all 90's toyota vehicles are infamous for their weak tranys. im sure engine will last, for sure.
also, these are 6 cylinder engines... but a 4 banger honda with over 500 hp, no you would have a point. thats just not meant to be done. maybe like once a year run or so
Foxy300ZX 2 years ago
Actually that's true too. I forgot about the weak Supra Tranny. Seen one blow up at the streeet drags. Didn't even get to launch lol. Were as the Z32 gear box is built like a brick sh*t house. In face, it the gear box of choice when the 180/200/240sx boys decide to upgrade. :D On that, I'll agree! And I'll conceed that the VG bottom end is quite strong too, but the fact remains the overalll engine of the supra is stronger, lasts longer, and is faaaaar eaiser to work on. I Still love the Z .
1TB0T 2 years ago
You are very wrong claiming the supra Getrag tranny is weak go look up Ryan Woons Supra located in AZ. That car is pushing 1400 hp on the stock 6 speed tranny. Thats far more than the what the 300zx tranny is capable of...
massiso22 2 years ago
Are you serious? The v160 is probably the best tranny to ever hit the states.
C'mon, the Z32 can't take the beating like MKIV can. That's a fact! I owned about 5 TT z32's in my life time, and not once did I ever hit beyond 402RWHP on BPU+++ upgrades. On my 94 TT BPU+ I hit 416RWHP without a problem. C'mon! Don't say the z32 has the same potencial, because it doesn't unless you drop big money on the car. Any car can go fast with dinero my friend. But the MKIV can hit 400RWHP with simple BPU!
hushg2000 2 years ago
This is true. I'm a Z32 TT owner myself...and it's just true. Not saying I'm happy about it, but it's the truth. If you drop $15k + into the car....both have about the same potential, but for just BPU...Supra definnitely has more potential.
300zxtt1487 2 years ago
And to settle the score on some of the other commments:
Supra Turbos DO have unbreakable transmissions. 300ZX TT transmissions are weaker UNLESS it is a 98+ spec transmission, which is easily capable of holding 1000+rwhp. And in my opinion, the Z is slightly sexier--although also slightly less reliable, and much more difficult to work on. Both are great cars IMO; Supras are more expensive, but have more out of the box potential. As for the MR2 (hushg2000)...I've heard they leak oil incessantly
300zxtt1487 2 years ago
Every car leaks oil after being driven for about 17 years. I've had a couple of 91's and a 93. They are great until the water pump goes out, than it's off to pulling the motor down to change a simple water pump, that's the flaw on this car...no room to work on... Oil leak? I never had that problem randomly. My valve cover gaskets and bottom end were solid. Normal maintance and the car runs like a champ.
What type of oil leak are you talking about?
hushg2000 2 years ago
The Z32's also have one of cheapest injector & coil packs that has ever been installed from the factory! These cars are a piece of shit when it comes to the fuel systems once you hit the 100k mile. If I had a penny for each Z owner who blew up some internal do to the fuel system failing while making Hwy pulls I would be a rich bastard by now. My nephew has a 1991 TT z32 as we speak, and it has the same fucking issue it always has, injectors!!!:( Damn, the Mr2's do a better job in that deparment.
hushg2000 2 years ago
I have bought several Z's in the past with 100K+ miles w/ their original injectors and coil packs. I simply dissagree with what you are saying since I have never really saw them being an issue.
to me the biggest issues on the Z have been the old worn out wireharnesses and rubber coolant hoses.
I usually treat the car with Lucas Gas Oil once a year to clean injectors. Coilpacks, never gone bad. on this car you do need money, since everything is old, and old shit breaks.
I currently have 3.
Foxy300ZX 2 years ago
Go around forums if you disagree with me. Have you ever boosted?? Jim wolf ecu,test pipes, BC,etc..?? Ever ran these upgrades?
What type of racing do you do? Track or 1/4 mile pulls??
My nephews car has about 145,000 miles and 2 injectors are out. Running on 4 cyclinders as we speak. Common 300zx issue.
hushg2000 2 years ago
I only enjoy highway racing. Dead stops are just too much damage to any car in my opinion
My top Z is fully built with too many things to name but has .40+ wiseco pistons, disco potato turbos, 740cc PE injectors, and was personally tuned by Ashspec. It pushes about 750 HP. Fully built to me also means, all new undercarriage, suspension, relocations, and great paint.
On injector problems again, its usually the fuel rail and lower intake plenum. Just get some newstyle Nismo 555's.
Foxy300ZX 2 years ago
I had in 1998-2004 A Toyota Supra Sp67 p-trim. I hit 686RWHP. Old skool HKS VPC,AFC,BCC. Stock internals.
I sold last year my 1997 T-61 500+RWHP at 18PSI. Stock mass! Just a Boost controller. :)
Now I have a 1995 Sp71 786RWHP on stock internals. Map Ecu. Every car that I've own has been on stock internals.
That is the difference between the Z and the MKIV. I have to do nothing to my bottom end to get the numbers I want.
Sounds like you have a nice Z.
hushg2000 2 years ago
Well let me just say this...
If you think like me, you would replace internals for any car that will go over 500 whp. The Stock TT's internals are good for 700 HP, dont get me wrong, but the idea of upgrading is for ASSURANCE.
Any TTZ will give you those numbers too (w/ injectors/turbos/ecu upgrades).
Personally I rather build it.
My built Z's internals are all rated for over 1200HP, but I wasnt going for that. Maybe with some race gas and timing change I would hit 1K
I love imports man
Foxy300ZX 2 years ago
@Foxy300ZX Stock pistons on the 300zx are cast and will not hold out for very long beyond 500rwhp with detonation being an enevitable (cast parts are not a good candidates for boost). The rods and crank are forged though. Supras definetly have more potential out of the box and are a hell of alot easier to work on. Plus Ryan Woon's WOTM car has demonstrated on numerous occasions that the stock 6 speed Getrag can withstand 1400hp.
massiso22 2 years ago
It doesn't last forever like that. I have many Supra friends that break their cars even at 550 RWHP. It's all in the setup and tune. And there have been Z's making 750 RWHP on stock internals. The only true difference between the Z and Supra as far as potential goes, is the owners of Supras dump MUCH MUCH MUCH more money into bigger and better setups than Z owners do. Too many TT guys dick around with weak ass tiny turbos trying to squeeze out everything they can because they're afraid of lag.
FlawleZ31 2 years ago
it's more than that...it's about practicality. Perhaps most Z owners don't want to race around on a hwy all day? Perhaps they drive it daily or perhaps they don't care about peeling out in every gear?
b00mface 2 years ago
ya i agree with this. i know first hand i make parts for Z1 MOTORSPORTS the biggest aftermarket company for z32's in the world. most z guys get 555cc injectors basic mods and and push 18psi on stock turbos usually average whp is 480 on stock turbos. but the vg will handle 750whp for about a year and one month then they detonate i own one thats why im going with carillo rods and weisco pistons for ASSURANCE these will handle 1500whp no prob.
z32turbojoe 2 years ago
No one makes 480 RWHP on stock turbos without nitrous. The highest recorded power made on stock turbos was 450 RWHP and that was Greg Dupree @ Specialty Z.
FlawleZ31 2 years ago
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z32turbojoe 2 years ago
Show me any dyno graph of a stock turbo Z32 making 480 RWHP. I don't care if its a dynojet. Hell show me a 450 RWHP on a Mustang dyno. Sport 500's don't count. Nitrous doesn't count. The only person to grace 450 was Greg Dupree on a customer's car @ 24 lbs.
FlawleZ31 2 years ago
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z32turbojoe 2 years ago
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z32turbojoe 2 years ago
Okay so now you're just going off what people claim. If you're going to throw around the fact you "make parts for Z1" you should actually know what you're talking about before you just post hearsay
FlawleZ31 2 years ago
well heres 470
Message Got my car tuned this past friday during a visit to Specialty-Z. Thanks to Greg and Seb were able to get me on the dyno. Here are the numbers, not to bad on stock turbos.
Three runs
Green = 91 Octane
Blue = 100 Octane
Red = Q16
STD Correction
z32turbojoe 2 years ago
Dyno Results Stock turbos.
Posted by MafiosoZ on November 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM This message has been viewed 1024 times.
Message Got my car tuned this past friday during a visit to Specialty-Z. Thanks to Greg and Seb were able to get me on the dyno. Here are the numbers, not to bad on stock turbos.
Three runsGreen = 91 OctaneBlue = 100OctaneRed = Q16
469.61 MAX POWER= 517.07 MAX TORQUE
Follow Ups Dyno Results Stock turbos. -
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z32turbojoe 2 years ago 2
Impressive! Thanks for posting that as I wasn't aware of that dyno. Looks like it beats the previous record set by Mike Homer and at less boost too!
FlawleZ31 2 years ago
hey that loud asss bov was that the hks ssqv at 1:47-1:48? let me know
Z32spdstr 2 years ago
@z32turbojoe what year is your fairlady?
MultiGetitdone 1 year ago
@z32turbojoe - How much boost is needed to achieve numbers like this on stock turbo's? How reliable will it be?
dipzag21 1 year ago
@dipzag21 To make 450+ on stock turbos you're going to need every supporting modification out there as well as methanol and/or race fuel. 24lbs+ is needed from the stock turbos to make over 450 RWHP.
FlawleZ31 1 year ago
I have to agree with you,the only reason I replaced my injectors was upgrade from stock to 880 to 1000.the motors on over 1khp stock coil packs and engine loom.The box has handled the power well so far.Albeit its a 99 model fairlady z32.
peranaz 2 years ago
Agreed plus the 300zx TT motor is a nightmare to work on.
massiso22 2 years ago
The only thing I dont like about supras are, when you shift the gear feels rubberish and cheap. Whereas the z feels sporty and more compact.
schang39 2 years ago
Its good to see a Vg-Z32 giving those 2j-Supras a run for their money.
MrZLeroy92 2 years ago