Why Mugabe Killed a Nation...

[poswoll]

Proof that Democracy is not the best way to lead an uninformed population. America, this is your future.

[LabeerehnGbanna]

If you only listen to their side of the story, it's easy to believe whatever they say.

[zuluman2008]

The truth is if Nkomo became the President of Zimbabbwe we wouldnt be in this situation Mugabe has put us in and i believe our counrty would be the "Canaan" of africa, i wouldnt be here in foreign living a second class citizen.I feel betrayed and am angry, but Mugabe and his henchmen will one day face justice not in the hague but in eternal hell.

[baglemonkey]

"lord" carington and the whole british government at the time, even now, ARE RACE TRAITORS!!!!!!!!!

[fericitchannel]

fucking bastard!!! long live ian smith!!!!!!

[NickB1967]

This is what Marxism does to a nation.

[baglemonkey]

@NickB1967 no that is what blacks do to a nation? name one viable black country in the whole world??? just one???

[LabeerehnGbanna]

@baglemonkey Are you seriously asking such an ignorant question?!!! Senegal, Ghana, Botswana, Equatorial Guinea, Sao Tome and Principe, Rwanda, are a few nations you should read about to answer your absurd question.

[baglemonkey]

@LabeerehnGbanna Rwand? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? what have you been smoking??? btw, the other countries you mentioned are basically small subsidized countries by whites in america, Europeans, and Asians countries. without that subsidized money from them, those countries would revert back to what how they normally behave. so your proof is basically NO proof.....

[LabeerehnGbanna]

@baglemonkey You're just another hard-head that will never reckon with the fact that Africa is way above the misconceptions people have about the continent. Chances are: you've never visited any of the countries I mentioned; your way of thinking about Africa is shaped by "theories" about Africans by 16th century idiots; and you hate to hear anything progressive about Africa. The Europe and America you speak of were built with resources, material and human, stolen from Africa. Need a lesson?

[sonofthedestroyer]

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[sonofthedestroyer]

The western media tells us that Mugabe is a tyrant, who is hurting his people. And then they go and put trade sanctions which hurt the residents of the country and not Mugabe. What is the logic behind this?

[baglemonkey]

@sonofthedestroyer your an idiot

[fsstogre]

The matabeleland massacres happened after indepenece not before ..

[andrews4100]

when the white man was in charge there was food ect.... and what about the adams farm...... mugabe is a very sick dog ....................

[Sunclief]

J Nkomo a freedom fighter oh okay how about this Osama Bin Laden and wonderful Freedom Fighter.

[bapfontein]

Osama Bin Laden , is the creation of the CIA, he carried out acts of terror on behalf of America , and to this day many are convinced he still works for them , and gives America the excuse to invade , murder , loot , rape , Muslims nation under the sham of fighting terror.. Zimbabawe people always be wary of the white man when he taiks about human rights etc, the Americans and British only intrest in Zimbabawe is their vast natural resources which they want to exploit for the West benifit.

[Sunclief]

Bapfontein: As much as I do not agree with what you say here all I can say is that Britain and America deserve every single enemy they have in this world. I will fight against them when the next war come's.

[bapfontein]

Sunclief. It is a fact Osama Bin Laden was controlled by the CIA, a fact they admit openly , and he fought for them aganist the Russians in Afganaistan. Many are still convinced he still works for them as agent provocator, which gives them the excuse to invent their phony war of terror. Rhodeshia was sold down the river by Zionist Americans and British intrest. They cared not one fuck for the ordinary white Rhodie or S .African , in their eyes they were nothing, and only got in the way p1

[bapfontein]

P2 of putting in place stooge corrupt black goverments , who they would then prop up with arms and good PR in the western media, and in return they loot the country resources. Like it or not , that in a nut shell is how it works. You might say that under white control in both Rhodesia and S. Africa they had control over much of the mines banks etc. Yes thats a fact and they still do but, the they have also gained even more control of the countrys major assets paticulary in the selling of of p2

[bapfontein]

p3 the countrys other major assets once in control of the white goverments . Under white rule , the huge S. African railways network was a goverment asset , Airports with vast infrastructure, State hospitals clinics, Water resources , Electricity, Roads etc. Since black rule just do a check and you will be amazed at the British , French , American ownership of some of these resources. Under white Christian Nationalist rule this sell of to the British /American Zionist would never have taken p3

[bapfontein]

p4.place , but the British and American well laid plan to sell out the whites has paid off handsomely. Forign multi nationals have made huge killings, which under white rule they could never acheived . They zionist controlled multi nationals could not care less for the ordinary white S. African. They also supported black empowerment , not that they gave a fuck for the black man either . They knew that black empowerment made econmic sense in that doing away with skilled whites in the p4

[bapfontein]

p5 the their newly aquired portfolios they could slash wages etc. That has now led to huge enemployment within the semi skilled and low skilled white community. Whereas the white goverment in S. Africa had the finest railway networks in Africa , the multi nationals have since taken over , have laid to ruin vast networks and only kept those making huge profits . The bottom line is its not about people or human rights ,American or the British care about , its about control over resources and p5

[bapfontein]

p6 securing profits above all else for the share holder , who dont live in S. Africa or Zimbabawe , and who could not care less for the plight of the ordinary black or white African. The day you put your trust in the Zionist controlled American or British goverment is the day you have bought their lies , deceit, corruption , hook line and sinker .

[Sunclief]

I agree with whatyou have said that is why I would much rather fight for the Russians when another great war breaks out and see Britain and America destroyed even if it costs me my life! Their trechary and betrayal has not gone by unnoticed.

Have you noticed how much interest the Russians and Chinese have in Zim and SA? I believe the Pommie and Yankies will come short in the end.

[bapfontein]

Sunclief.... The reason the Russians and Chinese have such intrest in Zimbabawe and S.Africa are exactly the same as the Zionist American and British. Anyone with half a brain knows their intrest is simply " self intrest" , forget about the nonsense of human rights , democracy etc , they care not one fuck about those issues. Just trawl throught some of the countries Britian and American prop up , for instance , Sudia Aribia, Morroco, Egypt, etc etc etc , the very mention of the word human p1

[bapfontein]

p2 rights , democracy, human rights ,in these countries is enought to have a person disappear. Yet where do you ever hear or see in the JEW NEWS ( CNN, FOX, NEW YORK TIMES, GUARDIAN , BBC) ETC the Zionist controlled American and British media calling for such noble things in these countries . Never ever , they prop and shore them up with arms , money , etc. They are getting what they want from the despots rulers of those countries without Democracy etc. The simple reason why White p2

[bapfontein]

p3.. rule  in S. Africa had to be destroyed was to bring under Zionist American and British control the vast mineral reserves and economy. That is all now but compleate since the sham democracy now in place in S. Africa. Under White S. African control , the Zionist American/British , could only have ever dreamed of such control of S. Africa mineral wealth and economy. Even the dogs in the street know who controls Banking , Mineral, gold , diamonds , diamonds, PORTS , sea/air ,p3p3

[bapfontein]

P4. Water , Electric etc Media , Telecom. All sold of in a well planned Zionist controlled asset stripping fraud , where the buyers were surprise , surprise , Zionist American/British multi nationals. Of course to give them some cover they created a few Black shareholders . In Zimbabawe President Mugabe who is highly educated , knew that the Zionist American/ British plans were the exact same , install a stooge goverment , prop him up , destroy ZANU , invite in the Zionist IMF , who p4

[bapfontein]

p5 . would loan billons , under the condition that asset stripping was promoted and  Zimbabawes huge assets Minerals etc sold to the Zionist American/ British multi nationals. If President Mugabe had of played ball with the American and British , and not stood in their way of takeing control of Zimbabawes resources and economy then he would still be their good little Black native. Instead of the lies and disiformation in the JEW NEWS , he would be bestowed with hounors awards ect .

[Sunclief]

True yet again!

[Sunclief]

Don't blame Mugabe blame Britain and America!

[bapfontein]

What a load of dog bollocks, I wonder how much this bastard is getting from the British goverment for making this load of lying propaganda. The Zimbabawean people must remain viglant , as the Impearlist dogs are still ouside their door trying to get in and reclonise Zimbabawe once again , and steal it vast untapped resources for the benifit of a few white European gangsters and theives. Remain viglant people of Zimbabawe , the dogs have not gone . Be viglant and aware of what going on.

[1986ant1986]

your a bloody fool

[chigudo]

this is a true account of whats happened. mugabe has many dirty tricks

[kingbleah]

oh is it bull shit?

the white farmers were forced out and so the expertise on farming when with it.

i see mugabe lived in great wealth while people starve.

so yalmazalpha your communists marxist thoughts are in deed selectively faulty as normal

[mikesdjftr]

wasn't only white men, it was al lthe blacks also. he took everyones crops and said he'd give some back if they voted for him

[intrepeco]

@kingbleah How many of those white farmers are feeding other Africans where people have access to land in Africa? Or it has to be that way in Zim alone?

[yalmazalpha]

Typical imperalist bullshit...

[Logicintelligent]

perfidiousalbion65 you can't take Africa. You should know by now the power a black man moves with :)

[TetuaMaana]

Nkomo's policy - that is how land was used in precolonial times.

We have everything we need for self-determination. We just have to decide that we want our continent back.

[Zen0xious]

The white controlled lands amounted to about 20%, contrary to how this video portrays it. This is a common misconception that all the land was in the hands of the whites and that that land was handed down to each generation. The vast majority built their farms up from barren bushland.

[Znaika1]

The events described by LijamGerrie happened in Nyasaland (now Malawi). They have nothing to do with Zombabwe. The police actions have been ordered in response to riots instigated by ANC. Considering the scale or the riots, the list of casualties is comparatively small; reason being it was not an intention of the police to kill rioters, but to disperse crowds.

[perfidiousalbion65]

listen, if "white people" were so cruel, evil and racist, and really wanted to steal africa from the africans, the combined military power

of the "white nations" usa, canada, europe/russia etc.. could easily kill every single man, woman and child from cape town to cairo 100 times in 24 hours !

nuclear bio chemical

think about that mr mugabe

[GGLebo23]

@perfidiousalbion65 They already have. Don't you know how globalization works? Here watch this vid.

Banked Into Submission

watch?v=k_3K1PCZHE0&playnext_f­rom=TL&videos=0JO_Z9NU7iw

I can provide other vids on this if you like.

[rmakg]

@perfidiousalbion65 :you white people r so obsessed with superiority.....is it bcoz u got small dicks??....superior or not,we are all going to fertilise the same land wn dead.lifes a bitch aint it!!!!

[baglemonkey]

@rmakg lol, is that monkey text???

[rmakg]

@baglemonkey "if" men descended from apes as u blv then i agree with u that black people r their closest relatives.i mean we r more at peace with our selves and with nature....the problem with u my friend is u actually blv u r "gods" .just look at what your societal system hs done to the earth.i tell u we wr fr betr off running around naked as hunters and gatherers "eating each othr"as u wld like to blv!!!!

[rmakg]

@baglemonkey i guess so..........and i guess that means u r white

[RhodesianBok]

@rmakg Men who accuse other men of having 'small dicks' have.....'small dicks' themselves...this is found in basic psychology books...how small is your dick??

[rmakg]

@RhodesianBok go ask your mama boy.she knw how big i am...n fuck your psychology,fuck ur stupid lil name,fuck the pussy u came out of and the dick bearing mother fucker who went into it resulting in ur existence,my presidents black and i got a 200Ha(ex white owned)farm written my fuckin name on the gate and there`s nthng u cn do about it ....

[LabeerehnGbanna]

@perfidiousalbion65 They didn't because it wouldn't have made any sense. If they nuked the place to get rid of the peolple, they would have also destroyed the land which they craved, and still do, so much. I can't believe you're denying the extreme cruelty the people sufferred at the hands of the Western invaders, lynchers, land-thieves, rapists, etc. Find out who King Leopold II of Belgium is, and you'll get an idea of how evil the Europens of that time were.

[der9f]

Makes sense to me - pay the market rent of the land you occupy, based on its quality, size and location. That would seem to offer a solution in all land-grab situations, even the Middle East. Don't want to pay the rent? Then knick off - no land for you. Seems most of the commenters here need to re-visit the video, rather than misunderstand it and exhibit their ignorance.

[osagyefoghana]

Mugabe is a hero.Propaganda and sabotage is not going to work bços africa have had enough of that.Sanction is what they've used to criple zim economy

[Znaika1]

There are no UN sanctions against Zimbabwe. Those sanctions that exist are onluy US and EU and solely against Mugabe and his ilk. Everyone else is comletely free to trade with Zimbabwe, but no one wants to deal with a corrupt, failed state.

And who in his right mind will agree to lend money to Zimbabwe?

[Znaika1]

Mugabe does not need saboteurs; he is the biggest saboteur himself. His stupid policies is what crippled Zimbabwe. As for the sanctions - wake up, there are no UN sanctions against Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe simply does not have anything to sell anymore as nothing works. So Zim needs money from IMF. But IMF is US-controlled and will not give money to Mugabe, as much of what Mugabe did is against human rights. Now Mugabe and his ilk yell "sanctions!". I say "justice" when money are not given to a junkie.

[perfidiousalbion65]

hello i agree 100 %. i see you are in canada?

are you zim? thank you

[Znaika1]

Hi, yes I am in Canada, but I am not a Rhodie or Zimbo.

[sinitskyd]

r-u a russkie?

[Znaika1]

In 1969 blacks had 18 million hectares - 54% of all agricultural lands. It wasn't best land. Did blacks tried to improve it? No. They preferred to blame whites. From the memoirs of then little girl:

European farm behind razor wire: flowering shrubs, fields of army straight tobacco, maize, grazing cattle shiny and plump. Black land next to it: clear of vegetation, barren worn soil. Why don't they rotate? Why do they overgraze? Where are their windbreaks and contours to catch rain?

[LivingZim]

More and more people need to see this video so that know more about what Mugabe really is - A MONSTER! So many injustices.

[equitably]

Mugabe looks like an ape, talks like an ape and acts like an ape. He and his henchmen are fit to star in a modern version of 'Planet of the Apes'.

[chigudo]

you all fail to realise that whites in zim were not british nationals they were foremost zimbabwean so how the fuck could britain have cared cmon guys you have more brains than this

[numbermoney]

Valid arguments. However, if the goal is to abolish poverty it could be achieved though money reform. As you rightly state, the land belongs to everyone. But not everyone is able to earn their living from the land. Now, 60% or more of our money supply is issued against land assets by private banks, at interest. If our government issued our currency instead, and paid a national dividend to those without land the same could be achieved.

[gordong156]

Independence negotiations required that land be transfered only on a 'willing seller, willing buyer' basis for a further 10 years.

Come 2000, 70% of productive land still remained in white hands, none of it paid for. This explains UK enthusiasm for Mugube so long as he respected white land ownership.

But no mention of the impact of sanctions? Surely UK/US sanctions were triggered by Mugabe's eventual move to 'fast track' land redistribution. Over 134,000 black farmers benefited from this.

[Znaika1]

You sound like if there was a land, some productive and some - not and those greedy whites grabbed 70% of all productive land. Black and white farms are often side by side, but white farms perform and black - dont. The true reason why some land is more productive is BECAUSE it is treated better. The soil in some farms is twice poorer because their owners do not practice proper water management, do not rotate crops, do not care about wind protection but there is overgrazing, and poor fertilizing

[gordong156]

Znaika1 - Isn't it much easier to farm when you start off with fertile soil? In 1893 British soldiers and volunteers invaded and forcibly seized the territory. Queen Victoria granted them 6000 acres of land each. They took the very best land they could find and the black inhabitants were herded into arid reservations and their cattle confiscated. White farms should be more productive because of the relative advantage this fertile start has given them.

[Znaika1]

It was the same situation for the farms located side by side, thus started on the same soil. Where did you get it about the Queen and 6000 acres?

[gordong156]

Znaika1 - The locals in Zimbabwe (formerly Matabeleland) lived from cattle ranching before the arrival of the British settlers. Google 'Victoria Agreement, Matabeleland' for more on Queen Victoria's gifts of land to her empire builders.

[Znaika1]

Ndebeles lived from ranching, but Shona practiced some agriculture. This is not the point, though. I am saying that in 50ies, 60ies and 70ies white farms and black farms that were located close or even side by side and thus started on the same type of soil gave dramatically different results. It had nothing to do with inherent quality of land, it had to do with farming practices.

[gordong156]

Znaika1 - Is it probable that, under appartheid, white farmers enjoyed no relative advantage over blacks? Was it, for example, just as easy for a black farmer to get loans and investment to buy land, a tractor, fertilisers, irrigation pipes and pumps etc etc etc. I'm afraid I'm struggling to picture the even playing field you imagine existed.

[Znaika1]

The playing field is not even anywhere. Some people have better starts in life than others. However, there are rich people who embezzle their wealth and there are poor hardworking people who accumulate wealth. As for the loans, bank policies were colour-blind: to favour low risk loans and disfavour high risk ones. If the lender has no property and no positive credit history, the bank would refuse the loan, regardless of race. Successful black farms that existed had no problems to obtain a loan.

[RhodiesAndSaffas]

Yes gordong156. 70% did remain white. I don't know where you come from that the land was not bought, as a lot of the farms were bought under mugabes rule. They have had 8 years now, to grow food, but not a bean or meilie is in the shops. If you know nothing about the actual Zimbabwean way of farming and the people, except for what you read on google, maybe it is better that you keep what little knowledge you get from the internet and go there and make the difference. I am sure Zanu-PF need you.

[gordong156]

Rhodies & Znaika1 - Do you never wonder how 66 white farmers winded up in possession of 2 million hectares of fertile land in this part of the world? Were the indigenous population suddenly rendered helpless by the high standard of farming methods they suddenly saw before them?

[RhodiesAndSaffas]

gordong156. let me just say this. You have no clue. You are just out to argue, even when you know nothing. May you carry on with your dreams. As with the guy doing this commentry, you have it all wrong. For one, there were almost 30,000 ndebeles killed and 2nd, nkomo didn't want to rent the land to the farmers. Those who wanted to sell, could lease a smaller amount of land. You are what we call, an idiot. I shall make this my last writing on this subject, as it seems to amuse your little brain.

[Znaika1]

In the 1988 Rhodes purchased mineral rights from Ndebele. As expectations for gold evaporated, whites turned to farming (against the mandate), started to develop bush land and driving blacks off it. After Ndebele and Shona rebellions, whites took another portion of land, driving black to reservations. However it became clear that white domination is not sustainable. Whites started to reserve land for blacks (millon hectares): 8.4 in 1926, more in 1941, another 7.6 in 1961, 16 in 1961, 18 in 1969

[gordong156]

Znaika1 - I'm sure you mean 1888 for the gold rush? I wonder how many other parallels there are with the USA. In the USA settlers wiped out the buffalo rather like the colonialists confiscated the Ndebele's cattle. Wikipedia also mentions that 'Most Indian reservations... are in the western United States, often in arid regions unsuitable for agriculture.'

[Znaika1]

Yes, of course 1888. Sorry, my bad.