haha the projected deficit by 2019 is 9.05 TRILLION. My unborn children will be paying that. And the big banks dont give a shit about us, they came out of this deal rich as hell.
No one was happy about the bank bailouts, no one but the banks, they had us (this country and a large part of the world) over a barrel. Had those bail outs not happened we would be in a WW now, mostly aimed at the US. This countries greed and lack of regulations is what brought this about and we most assured would have paid the price in the form of a nuclear bomb.
Do your really think that China, India, Russia and others would have sit still and allowed us to get away with the out and out theft of their wealth? They would have said "oh it's ok, we'll just write it off as a bad investment and go on", like they could afford the Billions and Billions of dollars?
It's that irresponsibility that has put us in this mess and the necessity to try and pull this country up by the boot straps and keep it going, that is driving up that debt you talk about. Our banking system is tied directly to every economy in the world...keep that in mind when your trying to wrap your mind around the deficit.
The way to reduce the deficit is to stop spending. What the government is doing is spending more than ever. Raising taxes is not the answer, why should we pay taxes when the FED can print money out of thin air? Let the FED pay it back. I would be optomistic if the government was spending less, gove is not doing this, gov will not, they are spending us all into the grave.
I write my senator all the time and I get replies back (probably from his staff) telling me IM wrong and HE, (Cornyn (R) Texas, is right. Dosent stop me though! LOL
I do a lot of calling and so far I'm happy with most of what my rep has done. Now as far as the state legislators here in NY, not so much and they do not pay attention to anyone.
Boomer, this appropriations bill got passed in March. It's too late to fix it now. What are you saying we are supposed to do? Pay attention more now for next years appropriations? Too bad a nice neat outline of pork won't be available for next year's spending spree either. Or are you saying we should all write our representatives and tell them we're pissed about what has allready been done. That'll give them a good laugh.
I hadn't realized that the whole budget passed. They are still doing some deep cutting across the board, so I made a bad assumption that the budget was still in play. My bad. In that case, never mind. I guess the only thing that can be done is to revolt but don't count on me being among the pitch fork crowd.
I hear what your saying about letters and phone calls doing no good. But targeted toward your elected representatives would. If you organize like what has been done with all the protest for all the causes over the last few years. Especially, if the target is a pork barrel issue, not such a huge issue like the national debt.
I disagree. Pork isn't the answer. Pork isn't why we are here. As Ron Paul said, we have to change our idea of what the role of government is. We can do this voluntarily or just wait and we'll be bankrupt. It's going to solve itself one way or another. What goes up, must come down.
FatLibertarian, so your participation in the Tea Party was not about the national debt but to change the Federal Governments role. That's even a larger project than the national debt. Some real planning, organization, money and time will need to be invested in achieving your goal. I'm afraid that will take more time than God has allowed me. But carry on.
Picking out pork as the solution in this crisis is silly. We must end the Federal Reserve and return to a gold/silver standard. Then we'd no longer be able to run massive deficits. Military non-interventionism would come about through necessity. This economic crisis is a collapse of world-wide central banking and fiat currencies. It would be amazing if we could lead the world out of this global depression and back to a commodities based currency.
You may be right, it could be the end of the world as we know it. We'll have to wait and see. Huge changes, like the one you are supporting, isn't something the world will return to over night because it's too nerrow in scope to accomodate every country in the world. And like it or not, we are Global.
I do phone, write, fax, and email my Senators, Congress, and the White House. I've been doing that for about 3 years when the influx of illegals started taking our jobs and MD became an illegals magnet. It just doesn't do any good anymore, they do indeed ignore us.
I will continue my letters and phone calls but now I will be taking it to the streets too! Rain or Shine!
They gave our jobs away and now they are stealing our money!
I have to say that the Democrats of my state have been more responsive to my emails. Senator Dahl and then Senator Obama both have responded to me in the past, but not everytime I write. I have never had a response from my Republican representatives. I'm sure it was just a staff member, but at least that was more than no response at all.
I should add that writing to them didn't do any good, they either passed the buck or told me that they are studying the issue. But at least there was some response that said, "I got your message, I'm listening."
haha the projected deficit by 2019 is 9.05 TRILLION. My unborn children will be paying that. And the big banks dont give a shit about us, they came out of this deal rich as hell.
9mwood 2 years ago
No one was happy about the bank bailouts, no one but the banks, they had us (this country and a large part of the world) over a barrel. Had those bail outs not happened we would be in a WW now, mostly aimed at the US. This countries greed and lack of regulations is what brought this about and we most assured would have paid the price in the form of a nuclear bomb.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
Do your really think that China, India, Russia and others would have sit still and allowed us to get away with the out and out theft of their wealth? They would have said "oh it's ok, we'll just write it off as a bad investment and go on", like they could afford the Billions and Billions of dollars?
Boomer1949 2 years ago
It's that irresponsibility that has put us in this mess and the necessity to try and pull this country up by the boot straps and keep it going, that is driving up that debt you talk about. Our banking system is tied directly to every economy in the world...keep that in mind when your trying to wrap your mind around the deficit.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
The way to reduce the deficit is to stop spending. What the government is doing is spending more than ever. Raising taxes is not the answer, why should we pay taxes when the FED can print money out of thin air? Let the FED pay it back. I would be optomistic if the government was spending less, gove is not doing this, gov will not, they are spending us all into the grave.
nitnit182 2 years ago
I write my senator all the time and I get replies back (probably from his staff) telling me IM wrong and HE, (Cornyn (R) Texas, is right. Dosent stop me though! LOL
enkelin32 2 years ago
I do a lot of calling and so far I'm happy with most of what my rep has done. Now as far as the state legislators here in NY, not so much and they do not pay attention to anyone.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
Boomer, this appropriations bill got passed in March. It's too late to fix it now. What are you saying we are supposed to do? Pay attention more now for next years appropriations? Too bad a nice neat outline of pork won't be available for next year's spending spree either. Or are you saying we should all write our representatives and tell them we're pissed about what has allready been done. That'll give them a good laugh.
cwmillerrn 2 years ago
I hadn't realized that the whole budget passed. They are still doing some deep cutting across the board, so I made a bad assumption that the budget was still in play. My bad. In that case, never mind. I guess the only thing that can be done is to revolt but don't count on me being among the pitch fork crowd.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
I hear what your saying about letters and phone calls doing no good. But targeted toward your elected representatives would. If you organize like what has been done with all the protest for all the causes over the last few years. Especially, if the target is a pork barrel issue, not such a huge issue like the national debt.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
I disagree. Pork isn't the answer. Pork isn't why we are here. As Ron Paul said, we have to change our idea of what the role of government is. We can do this voluntarily or just wait and we'll be bankrupt. It's going to solve itself one way or another. What goes up, must come down.
FatLibertarian 2 years ago
FatLibertarian, so your participation in the Tea Party was not about the national debt but to change the Federal Governments role. That's even a larger project than the national debt. Some real planning, organization, money and time will need to be invested in achieving your goal. I'm afraid that will take more time than God has allowed me. But carry on.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
Not even Moses got to see the promised land, Boomer. Don't despair.
cwmillerrn 2 years ago
Picking out pork as the solution in this crisis is silly. We must end the Federal Reserve and return to a gold/silver standard. Then we'd no longer be able to run massive deficits. Military non-interventionism would come about through necessity. This economic crisis is a collapse of world-wide central banking and fiat currencies. It would be amazing if we could lead the world out of this global depression and back to a commodities based currency.
FatLibertarian 2 years ago
You may be right, it could be the end of the world as we know it. We'll have to wait and see. Huge changes, like the one you are supporting, isn't something the world will return to over night because it's too nerrow in scope to accomodate every country in the world. And like it or not, we are Global.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
I do phone, write, fax, and email my Senators, Congress, and the White House. I've been doing that for about 3 years when the influx of illegals started taking our jobs and MD became an illegals magnet. It just doesn't do any good anymore, they do indeed ignore us.
I will continue my letters and phone calls but now I will be taking it to the streets too! Rain or Shine!
They gave our jobs away and now they are stealing our money!
Peace from Baltimore
BaltimoreSandra 2 years ago
I've already tried witting letters.
I've wrote my senator, congressman, Obama, and governor.
None of they have replied.
CMLovejoy 2 years ago
I have to say that the Democrats of my state have been more responsive to my emails. Senator Dahl and then Senator Obama both have responded to me in the past, but not everytime I write. I have never had a response from my Republican representatives. I'm sure it was just a staff member, but at least that was more than no response at all.
cwmillerrn 2 years ago
I should add that writing to them didn't do any good, they either passed the buck or told me that they are studying the issue. But at least there was some response that said, "I got your message, I'm listening."
cwmillerrn 2 years ago