Wow! Amazing performance! Also, the camera work was exceptional, which added quite a lot to it, being able to feel the emotion of Mr. Barenboim coming out not only through the sound he produces but also the visual effect of it.
beethoven zongoraszonátáit tartja a zenetudomány ,minden zene anatómiájának,végre találtam egy csaknem összest feltöltést,köszönjük a zenebarátok nevében
@thegoddescomposer ......wow. eloquent. would you care to elaborate on your idiot statement, or what you wrote the extent of your intelligence? can YOU play this piece any better?......or at all????
@pokerplayingpianist: Thank you for pointing out the superb camera work. I was inattentive to that aspect until I saw your comment. An extra bonus. You have made this one of my favorite YouTube videos! Thank you again.
the playing is perfect within performance, yet the tone structure that worked well in every other sonata, is slightly limpid in this sonata, overall a nice performance set of a noticably difficult composition series, from a more complex composer.
OK, this is creditable but very "slick" and anonymous. So he can still play, but this explains why he chose to take up conducting and managing Jackie rather than owning his instrument. Now listen to Arrau in this milestone of a composition and compare.
I cry when I listen to this. Thats whats its about- an emotional Odyssey- lost in the wood- escape from the lotus eaters.- I think thats what Beethoven was thinking about most of the time.
What I like most about his playing is that he maintains control even in the most furious passages. This is a monster of a piece, and without a mature technique, it will control you!
Thanks for posting!!! I am dumbfounded, did know Barenboim of course, from his fantastic Liszt, and his Wagner transcriptions, but never heard him play Beethoven. He can compare with Richter for Beethoven,really!!!
Barenboim´s Beethoven is very good, enjoy. Arguing if he is the best pianist or not is nonsense. Brendel is very good indeed, so are Argerich, Perahia, Freire, Sokolov, Uchida, Weissenberg, Ashkenazy, Kissin, Lugansky and many others, learn from all of them.
This guy never ceases to amaze me. He seems to be able to easily overcome any technical problem, and never seems to have an "off day". When he was young, Barenboim was my hero and played everything in exactly the way I thought it should be played. Nothing has changed. Barenboim always thinks every single note and phrase out carefully, much as Anne Sophie Mutter does on the violin. Barenboim always used to "compete" with Askenasy. Wonder what happened to him.
I actually prefer Ashkenazy's rendition of this piece to Barenboim's. Although, when speaking about such pianists, it basically does come down to personal preference as I've yet to hear something this guy has done that's 'bad,' the reasons why I prefer Ashkenazy, is he takes his time here and there, which adds to the drama, he uses more 'textures' in the introduction, and he's a bit clearer in the quicker passages. Still a beautiful rendition, however.
rosast02, Beethoven did live for 5 more years after he wrote this sonata. This sonata was composed in 1822, he died exactly 5 years later in 1827. :) The Ragtime part is awesome!
mal interpretada muy lentoo..el inicio y sin fuerza lejos de gulda richter hasta rubinstein en suma decepcionante el beethoven de barenboim como siempre
The league of morrons we have.... tchebiani71.... would you mind explaining WTF has to do hammerklavier with this? this is sonata 32, not the Hammerklavier freaking retard...., and the spanish one confirming that he preffers the Arrau's Hammerklavier than Barenboim's when this is the Sonata 32, not the Klavier you morron! My god... people really has idiotic sprees... just like watching a Mozart concert and replying you like more Pikachu.... people is just too ignorant and crazy
at least one other normal person here on youtube who is sick of any other conversation not related to this video and especially to the great music barenboim performs so well.
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pianists and classical soloists in general are always slushing everything up so much, they oughtta just step back and let the music speak for itself, more straight forward like, you know? all the rubaaaaaaaato makes me wanna hurl. all them fucking virtuosoes just gotta make it bout themselves. i been playing this crap just five minutes ago an mine kick that ol fat jerk's ass
oh YEAH? you're so sure?!?!? well ma'am they DON'T pay! can you believe it! i never seen a PENNY for ALL MY HARD FUCKING WORK and here this bozo comes along and everybody cums allover themselves, ejaculating precious dollars into his fancy linen pockets. HMPH!
If hard work would make geniuses well I'm sure you'de be the top of em all. But since it doesn't I'd rather pay 300$ to hear Mr Barenboim than pay a single penny to hear your years and years of hard work, if you mind.
i read the first part of the first sentence of your comment and pride glowed inside me that someone finally, FINALLY appreciated my sense of humor (i think i creamed a little) but then i finished the first sentence and was confused. i then read the final sentence and shit my already soiled pantaloons!!!
Yeah right. did you play all 32 of beethoven's piano sonatas when you were 17? Did you play with the israel philharmonic when you were ten? Have you won 5 grammy? OH you haven't SHUT THE FUCK UP! Barenboim would not be playing at one of the greatest concert halls in the world for so long if wasn't the best.
Well, I don't like the modern music. I consider Barenboim to be a very romantic pianist. Barenboim is different because his tempi and his pianism are much more rich than those of other pianists like Pollini, Kissin, or Argerich, for example. I think Barenboim and Lupu, among others, are the greatest of today's pianists. The greatest pianists of the XX century were Rubinstein, Cortot, Cziffra, Kempff, Gould, and Arrau. The REALLY overrated pianists of the XX century were Horowitz and Godowsky.
About Cziffra and Arrau being greatest... well imo Cziffra is kinda only tech skill and poor interpretation and Arrau... well as I stated before he just doesn't convince me neither in interpretation or tech, but I couldn't agree more on Rubinstein being prolly the best of the XX century. His campanella... almost unmatched. I think I only preffer Gekic's Campanella's over his.
Man I wasn't clear enough. The point I'm trying to clear is that too many big names are overated in matters of performing. I linked last night (but seems it didn't worked) Horowitz's Moonlight Sonata... is just pathetic and is not me being inpertinent... is just the truth. Listen any modern concert of it and you'll surely apreciate it. Now I don't even dare to discuss that Arrau is an excelent overall musician, but I pointed that as Horowitz his performances are overated =)
LMAO.... Arrau is soooo overated. He is well known for performing moslty Beethoven and almost any sonata is performed better by other pianinsts... take Moonlight that is the most known... Ashkenazy in the first movement and Gloud in the third are zillions times better than Arrau's. And as Arrau, there are too many old pianists that live in the glory just for an old fashioned public. The problem is old people had few versions too admire so people like Horowitz got famous.
I disagree with the comment "Arrau is soooo overrated." Other pianists exhibit great technique, which is oviously very impactful. Ashkenazy, Horowitz, and Gould are all great pianists, without doubt. Arrau at times appears to be a weak pianist, and only his Beethoven, Brahms, and Liszt performances are valued -- sometimes not even those. Arrau was mora a musician than a pianis. He was not perfect, but without doubt he was a serious and profound musician/pianist. Barenboim is far of that.
Arrau overrated? ha ha, it sounds so funny... if you think so, what do you want from piano? .. no matter what could it be is superficial, typical from shallow people...
The Barenboim's performance is strong and beautyfull but can't be compared with the Arrau because:
1. Arrau was a exceptional pianist if you consider his aparently weak-technique.
2. The Barenboim's Beethoven approach is similar to the Arrau's approach (a romantic Beethoven) but Barenboim is less sedate. Arrau is more emotionally balanced.
Obviously is a personal eye-point and is not an absolute true.
Barenboim is a great pianist without doubt but his musical introspection in this sonata is not so deeply like Arrau's performance. Arrau can reach the core of the Beethoven sense regardless his slow tempi (but not every time), because his rubatos provides a very tragic atmosphere. So, the Barenboim's technique is robustly but some people says: "the Arrau's technique is weak" and I ask: Do you heard the Op. 106 Arrau's version (60's version)? I don't think so. Barenboim is great but very young.
I agree, when people says that Arrau`s technique is weak they are probably speaking about the "very old Arrau", but anyone who has listened the records from early years can see what an amazing pianist he was, with his extraordinary control of the sound and emotional drive and intensity, always using the nautural weight of his body,always incredibly relaxed. He was unique.
Of course he is!!! On most of my comments on Barenboim I put "BARENBOIM RULES THE WORLD" this is easily the best version, and not only is Daniel the greatest barenboim interpreter, he is the greatest pianist ever!!!
Agree 100 million percent.... Aren't we so lucky? But I am having trouble seeing the 2nd mov't here -split into two parts, I guess. That is SOME piece of music and I can never forget the fact that for ALL of this sonata and for many before it, as well as his many other later works, he - Beethoven- could not hear a thing. Wow!
Beethoven is so deep.... And what tremendous playing, by one who not only understands the man Beethoven but can so athentically express the yearnings of the great comoser through his music.
He is clearly a very potent pianist. But to my taste he is not a good Beethoven interpreter. In fact I don't really understand how he is even compared to Arrau or Richter. For me his playing is technically superb but artistically disengaged. His body language (show) has more dramatizing then his playing. That's, of course, my taste.
@The55555SSSSS MusiciAn of course in Shakespeare's language!Sorry-now I can say I don't like Barenboim's Beethoven .Mainly in the last Beethoven op106 and op111.
His tempi are all too slow because he is lacking technical abilities and he has no time to practice since he travels permanently.His memory serves him a lot.
"Absolutely the best"? Amazon lists 164 different recordings for this sonata. Arguably, there's quite a few duplicates in there, but still, did you listen to all of them ?
"The most intense": How about Richter and Yudina (among others)? The truth is, there are many "best" versions of this sonata.
It is indeed silly, in a way, to talk of absolutes in this field. I have listened to many, many exceptionally talented people play this piece over the years. But tonight, having listened to both Richter and Barenboim playing it, I have to say that I preferred the latter's rendition, tonight. But that's just an opinion. There are no facts, unless I was to say both of them play it a heap better than me. Now THAT is a fact!
seriously, he is phenomenal. his beethoven is really the best; the standard favorite, brendel, though excellent, lacks the intense emotion of barenboim. The opening of the allegro con brio here is shattering
Barenboim has this one nailed down, and anyone who knows the late Beethoven sonatas should appreciate not only his technical execution here, but the emotional execution as well.
I was watching this again. I noticed that he punches the Dflat at 3:22 and again in the repeated bar later. I remember also Brendel doing this on the last note o
I can't stop listening to this over and over. Everyone in my house swears I'm insane
esdras655321 1 week ago
Does there exist a more jagged, implosive, primordial, brilliantly invaded by shafts of sweet light, chasm of sound?
UNDENATUREDisaword 1 month ago
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UNDENATUREDisaword 1 month ago
Beethoven used to play lots of super mario bros untill he realized that composing was more fun
Strimlarn87 1 month ago
8:27 -heartbreaking phrase.
MrBuxt 2 months ago
Why is one of the related videos a dubstep remix? Ruins it for everyone.
Cloudpaul 2 months ago in playlist classical
Excellent rendition.
gerardbedecarter 3 months ago
I finally decided to play this entire piece for my audition for universities. I really got inspired by this performance. =)
leon00thomasian 3 months ago 3
Wow! Amazing performance! Also, the camera work was exceptional, which added quite a lot to it, being able to feel the emotion of Mr. Barenboim coming out not only through the sound he produces but also the visual effect of it.
progux 3 months ago
9:12 Oh Gosh!, it may be dangerous!
juanpst77 4 months ago
One of the best renditions of this piece.
daonap 4 months ago 2
magnificent performance...Beethoven was such a titan. Never ceases to amaze me.
jacmac127 5 months ago 2
What a great performance!! He is all sweating lol :D
2Funny4YouMan 5 months ago
This dude fucking judo chops the piano!
TrevRockOne 6 months ago
beethoven zongoraszonátáit tartja a zenetudomány ,minden zene anatómiájának,végre találtam egy csaknem összest feltöltést,köszönjük a zenebarátok nevében
lesliefoy49 6 months ago
if only beethoven never died :(
FountainofFire 6 months ago
I don't know which interpretation I enjoy the most, Barenboim's, Richter's, or Schiff's. I need all three!
wardka 6 months ago
@wardka Listen to Arrau's, that one is my favorite. =D
PhillyB702 4 months ago
how long do you think it took him to be able to play this?
spoon149 6 months ago
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one of the best movies in the world...
bratzko79 6 months ago
That is a VERY inspiring performance! It's performances like that that make me want to be a professional musician (except maybe the sweat).
One thing though- the way he stamps on the pedal gives an unwanted percussive sound.
pianodudette 7 months ago
dIRTY MAN
30inventionman 8 months ago
He makes me remind the film Godfather. Argentina, what I know well is only soccer.
coach607 8 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever Beethovens later works are my favorites. 29 is my favorite piece of music in the whole world! :)
Ally123234 8 months ago
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MajorKermit 9 months ago
oops never mind!
ttslipknotrulez132 10 months ago
he sorta looks like older beethoven
ttslipknotrulez132 10 months ago
the best performance ever
12345qazx1 10 months ago
Where did this concert take place?
llesmeiriol 10 months ago
He really fucked this one
thegoddescomposer 10 months ago
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phantasm1004 8 months ago
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phantasm1004 8 months ago
@thegoddescomposer ......wow. eloquent. would you care to elaborate on your idiot statement, or what you wrote the extent of your intelligence? can YOU play this piece any better?......or at all????
phantasm1004 8 months ago
And I thought I listened to almost all of Beethoven's piano solos... WRONG!! THERE is so much more!!!! :D! That was wonderful!!
Dante121892 11 months ago
I didn't know emperor claudius could play the piano
quarknugget 11 months ago
do not make drama about the performers congruency with the music..just listen..beautifull and with extreme intensity..
12345qazx1 1 year ago
You can call it adding drama, I call it making your own version of of the song versus playing it the way it was meant to be played.
StandardAI 1 year ago
I would prefer a piano player that focused more on playing the music than trying to turn it in to dramatic performance.
StandardAI 1 year ago
@StandardAI maybe you should get the computer (MIDI) to play this sonata. there will be less drama for you.
nevertheless123 1 year ago 2
@StandardAI yeah, right, and YOU know EXACTLY how it was meant to be played... omfg
daonap 4 months ago
Love the sweat flying at 9:13 XD
JacobRudduck 1 year ago
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MayorSmellington 1 year ago
Incredible concert hall softness... you could hear a feather fall....
radiootoo 1 year ago
下手だなおい
casino6115 1 year ago
He made me interested in classical music again!
NodameSpecial 1 year ago
@NodameSpecial Beethoven? Fuck yeah. Although i got back into classical music because of Bach recently but now im full fledged because of beethoven
Haaggus 1 year ago
I love Barenboim's Beethoven and Brahms playing. Such a warm tone!
mynameismred 1 year ago
0:14 - He looks like Count Dracula on the piano :D
Ray0X0 1 year ago 12
@Ray0X0 Barenboim is the Vampire of Piano
PaulThePuppetier 1 month ago
Barenboim has interiorized the Beethovenian drama and he is able to exteriorize it through a very sensitive and judicious interpretation.
ALPMANAN 1 year ago 3
C'est parfait, très magnifique!!
alissonramos89 1 year ago
@pokerplayingpianist: Thank you for pointing out the superb camera work. I was inattentive to that aspect until I saw your comment. An extra bonus. You have made this one of my favorite YouTube videos! Thank you again.
shrdlux 1 year ago
te quiero compatriota Baremboim!.
martingudell 1 year ago
très belle interprétation par un barenboim visiblement très en forme !
01AlexZor 1 year ago
the playing is perfect within performance, yet the tone structure that worked well in every other sonata, is slightly limpid in this sonata, overall a nice performance set of a noticably difficult composition series, from a more complex composer.
Overlapse1000 1 year ago
I absolutely love the camera work that was done on this performance. It really captures all of the drama of the sonata and of the performer!
pokerplayingpianist 1 year ago 33
@pokerplayingpianist totally agree. haven't seen many piano performances caught on video better than this.
indolentjoe 1 year ago
OK, this is creditable but very "slick" and anonymous. So he can still play, but this explains why he chose to take up conducting and managing Jackie rather than owning his instrument. Now listen to Arrau in this milestone of a composition and compare.
VivaRenata 1 year ago
I cry when I listen to this. Thats whats its about- an emotional Odyssey- lost in the wood- escape from the lotus eaters.- I think thats what Beethoven was thinking about most of the time.
nicoheckens1 1 year ago
What I like most about his playing is that he maintains control even in the most furious passages. This is a monster of a piece, and without a mature technique, it will control you!
davidjb100 1 year ago
Pretty sweaty at 9:13 :)
Bravo!
Expresseon 1 year ago
magnificent interpretation. Bravo, maestro!
DietaFinal 2 years ago
2:23 - now that's just awesome^^
Wedsheport 2 years ago
Where did it happen?
bowedmyhead 2 years ago
Bars 63 - 68 and in other places are unpleasant to my ears - overwhelming sound, possibly not to Beethoven's ears though?
trevorheywood 2 years ago
@trevorheywood give a time plz!
u just have to type the number with a colon... eg: 0:01 :)
HungryJ111 2 years ago
beethoven was deaf when he composed this.
samcho2010 1 year ago
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but his "mind's ear" was still functioning just fine. one doesn't need a physical hearing ability to compose great music.
rhapsodyinblue18 1 year ago
yaaaaaay! :D
djpaulsweed 2 years ago
ich ziehe Arrau als Baremboim vor. Aber es ist auch schön
MrElectronios 2 years ago 2
this guy is a god among gods
Likeafoxow 2 years ago
What a wonderful Steinway! Bravo to the techicians.
trevorheywood 2 years ago
Piano Technicians or Sound Technicians?
:P
Regardless, they both did outstanding jobs, I agree.
Rheostatik 2 years ago
The piano seems to be in top shape. The Piano technicians are the tuners and those who fine tune the mechanics of the Steinway.
trevorheywood 2 years ago
Thanks for posting!!! I am dumbfounded, did know Barenboim of course, from his fantastic Liszt, and his Wagner transcriptions, but never heard him play Beethoven. He can compare with Richter for Beethoven,really!!!
ipublica 2 years ago
Barenboim´s Beethoven is very good, enjoy. Arguing if he is the best pianist or not is nonsense. Brendel is very good indeed, so are Argerich, Perahia, Freire, Sokolov, Uchida, Weissenberg, Ashkenazy, Kissin, Lugansky and many others, learn from all of them.
pianopolis 2 years ago 2
Argerich, ashkenazy and barenboim are the best pianists alive.. Kissin is amizingly good but has alot yet to learn
sokkaperri 2 years ago
What about Sokolov, lugansky and Zimmerman?
frebasflav 2 years ago
I totally forgot Zimerman.
sokkaperri 2 years ago
and what about horowitz, berezovsky, and sultanov??
jorgenavavasquez 2 years ago
I think Alfred Brandel did it better
Desmonddd2002 2 years ago
Brendel is a great performer indeed, but Barenboim is BETTER than anyone in playing Beethoven
gorgalsi 2 years ago
Wonderful piano, wonderful pianist, wonderful piece - wonderful...
Expresseon 2 years ago
Beautiful! Gorgeous! It's like watching a movie, except with real person with his own hands.
chrishinyi 2 years ago
Amazing how Beethoven wrote this when he was deaf.
TheCinemaization 2 years ago 4
Elly Ney plays this piece very well.
TheCinemaization 2 years ago
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her Beethoven isn´t only very very bad!!! (she don´t read the notes!) - she also was a nazi!
stundglas 2 years ago
I think it's brilliant.
TheCinemaization 2 years ago 3
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For me Barenboim is talentless as a piano player.
He sounds mediocre every time!!
Probably some 1 million players can play like him, which doesnt say much of his abilities.
NO!! In the name of God, NO!!!
How can this jerk even dream of being compared to old time greats?
maxhansendk 2 years ago
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TheCinemaization 2 years ago
This guy never ceases to amaze me. He seems to be able to easily overcome any technical problem, and never seems to have an "off day". When he was young, Barenboim was my hero and played everything in exactly the way I thought it should be played. Nothing has changed. Barenboim always thinks every single note and phrase out carefully, much as Anne Sophie Mutter does on the violin. Barenboim always used to "compete" with Askenasy. Wonder what happened to him.
swanningaround 2 years ago 2
I actually prefer Ashkenazy's rendition of this piece to Barenboim's. Although, when speaking about such pianists, it basically does come down to personal preference as I've yet to hear something this guy has done that's 'bad,' the reasons why I prefer Ashkenazy, is he takes his time here and there, which adds to the drama, he uses more 'textures' in the introduction, and he's a bit clearer in the quicker passages. Still a beautiful rendition, however.
ProkofievRules 2 years ago 3
Ashkenazy is still a very good pianist and also started conducting. His recording of the Diabelli Variations (recorded 2006 or so) is brilliant.
taviona 2 years ago
Woah this guy is good.
Also, gonal... really... lejos de richter?
Toca con mucha fuezra y expresion!
p.s. Beethoven + 5 more years of life would have = Ragtime. just sayin.
rosast02 2 years ago
rosast02, Beethoven did live for 5 more years after he wrote this sonata. This sonata was composed in 1822, he died exactly 5 years later in 1827. :) The Ragtime part is awesome!
YBaComposer 2 years ago
mal interpretada muy lentoo..el inicio y sin fuerza lejos de gulda richter hasta rubinstein en suma decepcionante el beethoven de barenboim como siempre
su mozart no es tan malo
gonzal0999 2 years ago
barenboim est UN GRANT.
mianphila 2 years ago
lo merece
nezfuyaba 2 years ago
el orgullo argentino
malinoide 2 years ago
The league of morrons we have.... tchebiani71.... would you mind explaining WTF has to do hammerklavier with this? this is sonata 32, not the Hammerklavier freaking retard...., and the spanish one confirming that he preffers the Arrau's Hammerklavier than Barenboim's when this is the Sonata 32, not the Klavier you morron! My god... people really has idiotic sprees... just like watching a Mozart concert and replying you like more Pikachu.... people is just too ignorant and crazy
Olidamara 2 years ago 4
This music is suberb
061mozart123 2 years ago
Get a room guys.
Let's focus on the music.
john9487 2 years ago 30
at least one other normal person here on youtube who is sick of any other conversation not related to this video and especially to the great music barenboim performs so well.
thx for posting it!
churchlandsmuso4life 2 years ago 2
Потрясающе!Гениально!Не сравнимо ни с чем,что я слышал ранее!
klevenshtein 2 years ago
lentissima introduccion....mal..lenta..sin la f uerza .y desabrida sr barenboim su fuerte siempre ha sido MOZART..Y SUS MEDIOS TIEMPOS....
gonzal0999 2 years ago
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pianists and classical soloists in general are always slushing everything up so much, they oughtta just step back and let the music speak for itself, more straight forward like, you know? all the rubaaaaaaaato makes me wanna hurl. all them fucking virtuosoes just gotta make it bout themselves. i been playing this crap just five minutes ago an mine kick that ol fat jerk's ass
marsborne 2 years ago
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah... I'm sure tons of people would pay to hear you....
Olidamara 2 years ago
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oh YEAH? you're so sure?!?!? well ma'am they DON'T pay! can you believe it! i never seen a PENNY for ALL MY HARD FUCKING WORK and here this bozo comes along and everybody cums allover themselves, ejaculating precious dollars into his fancy linen pockets. HMPH!
kiddbing 2 years ago
If hard work would make geniuses well I'm sure you'de be the top of em all. But since it doesn't I'd rather pay 300$ to hear Mr Barenboim than pay a single penny to hear your years and years of hard work, if you mind.
Olidamara 2 years ago
Do us a favour and shut the hell up you philistine...
Musicman180 2 years ago
eat my terds you small minded dork. no offense. it's all in good fun i'm sure
kiddbing 2 years ago
What the hell are you talking about- are you retarded or something? I wasn't even talking to you...
Musicman180 2 years ago
I laughed at your comment and then laughed harder at your lack of videos. Quit being a poser.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
i read the first part of the first sentence of your comment and pride glowed inside me that someone finally, FINALLY appreciated my sense of humor (i think i creamed a little) but then i finished the first sentence and was confused. i then read the final sentence and shit my already soiled pantaloons!!!
kiddbing 2 years ago
Did I just get owned?
oregonskateok 2 years ago
Yeah right. did you play all 32 of beethoven's piano sonatas when you were 17? Did you play with the israel philharmonic when you were ten? Have you won 5 grammy? OH you haven't SHUT THE FUCK UP! Barenboim would not be playing at one of the greatest concert halls in the world for so long if wasn't the best.
MasterAzunai 2 years ago 10
Love the camera angles they put on him.
pianomax17 3 years ago
!agree
Olidamara 3 years ago
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pianomax17 3 years ago
Well, I don't like the modern music. I consider Barenboim to be a very romantic pianist. Barenboim is different because his tempi and his pianism are much more rich than those of other pianists like Pollini, Kissin, or Argerich, for example. I think Barenboim and Lupu, among others, are the greatest of today's pianists. The greatest pianists of the XX century were Rubinstein, Cortot, Cziffra, Kempff, Gould, and Arrau. The REALLY overrated pianists of the XX century were Horowitz and Godowsky.
khalamath 3 years ago
About Cziffra and Arrau being greatest... well imo Cziffra is kinda only tech skill and poor interpretation and Arrau... well as I stated before he just doesn't convince me neither in interpretation or tech, but I couldn't agree more on Rubinstein being prolly the best of the XX century. His campanella... almost unmatched. I think I only preffer Gekic's Campanella's over his.
Olidamara 3 years ago
Yeah Horowitz is ovverated and Richter just sucks and Gilels - well this dude isn't even worth mentioning.
Maybe you have anything more ridiculous to say?
andriskaya 2 years ago
I really hope you're being sarcastic.
MJTTOMB 2 years ago
Man I wasn't clear enough. The point I'm trying to clear is that too many big names are overated in matters of performing. I linked last night (but seems it didn't worked) Horowitz's Moonlight Sonata... is just pathetic and is not me being inpertinent... is just the truth. Listen any modern concert of it and you'll surely apreciate it. Now I don't even dare to discuss that Arrau is an excelent overall musician, but I pointed that as Horowitz his performances are overated =)
Olidamara 3 years ago
LMAO.... Arrau is soooo overated. He is well known for performing moslty Beethoven and almost any sonata is performed better by other pianinsts... take Moonlight that is the most known... Ashkenazy in the first movement and Gloud in the third are zillions times better than Arrau's. And as Arrau, there are too many old pianists that live in the glory just for an old fashioned public. The problem is old people had few versions too admire so people like Horowitz got famous.
Olidamara 3 years ago
I disagree with the comment "Arrau is soooo overrated." Other pianists exhibit great technique, which is oviously very impactful. Ashkenazy, Horowitz, and Gould are all great pianists, without doubt. Arrau at times appears to be a weak pianist, and only his Beethoven, Brahms, and Liszt performances are valued -- sometimes not even those. Arrau was mora a musician than a pianis. He was not perfect, but without doubt he was a serious and profound musician/pianist. Barenboim is far of that.
claudioarrau1903 3 years ago
Arrau overrated? ha ha, it sounds so funny... if you think so, what do you want from piano? .. no matter what could it be is superficial, typical from shallow people...
Ray0X0 2 years ago 2
The Barenboim's performance is strong and beautyfull but can't be compared with the Arrau because:
1. Arrau was a exceptional pianist if you consider his aparently weak-technique.
2. The Barenboim's Beethoven approach is similar to the Arrau's approach (a romantic Beethoven) but Barenboim is less sedate. Arrau is more emotionally balanced.
Obviously is a personal eye-point and is not an absolute true.
claudioarrau1903 3 years ago
This piece is not sedate, and its not supposed to be emotionally balanced
MasterAzunai 2 years ago
Barenboim is a great pianist without doubt but his musical introspection in this sonata is not so deeply like Arrau's performance. Arrau can reach the core of the Beethoven sense regardless his slow tempi (but not every time), because his rubatos provides a very tragic atmosphere. So, the Barenboim's technique is robustly but some people says: "the Arrau's technique is weak" and I ask: Do you heard the Op. 106 Arrau's version (60's version)? I don't think so. Barenboim is great but very young.
claudioarrau1903 3 years ago 2
I agree, when people says that Arrau`s technique is weak they are probably speaking about the "very old Arrau", but anyone who has listened the records from early years can see what an amazing pianist he was, with his extraordinary control of the sound and emotional drive and intensity, always using the nautural weight of his body,always incredibly relaxed. He was unique.
totolinensen 3 years ago
i don't know if we're talkin of the same version , but arrau's Hammerklavier, is my first and best version ;)
tchebinai71 2 years ago
Coincido con ud., aún sin ser experto, que la versión del maestro Arrau es muy superior a ésta del maestro Barenboim.
Ray0X0 2 years ago
why the hell would you reply in spanish to an english comment
plipstaticfildip 2 years ago
hmmm..... that was sort of hyppocritical of me lol
plipstaticfildip 2 years ago
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gerryrains 2 years ago
Barenboim is 71 you fool
MasterAzunai 2 years ago
No, Barenboim is 67 (in November he has birthday) -.-
Besides, he is the only one (besides Beethoven himself) that plays this work so sophisticated. Barenboim is the best Beethoven- interpret !
gorgalsi 2 years ago
Of course he is!!! On most of my comments on Barenboim I put "BARENBOIM RULES THE WORLD" this is easily the best version, and not only is Daniel the greatest barenboim interpreter, he is the greatest pianist ever!!!
MasterAzunai 2 years ago
Yes. He, Danny, *is* the best _Barenboim_ interpreter.
jlaurson 2 years ago
do you know beethoven himself? ;-)
but you are right. it's great, of course!
AmelieWuensche 2 years ago
Hey! we should make a club of people who dislike arrau's beethoven =D
Barenboim & Ashkenazy > Arrau
Olidamara 3 years ago
hell yeah!
john9487 3 years ago
Excelent work!!!
juanpst77 3 years ago
Bravo master!
astronomo16 3 years ago
I'm a metalhead, and even I like this, because it has the tone of a virtuoso and it is played with such feeling!
AceOseveN 3 years ago 2
i love youtube , you can have in just one place , this wonderful sonata played by barenboim , richter , arrau , badura-skoda , schnabel
choti007depuchamadre 3 years ago 4
Agree 100 million percent.... Aren't we so lucky? But I am having trouble seeing the 2nd mov't here -split into two parts, I guess. That is SOME piece of music and I can never forget the fact that for ALL of this sonata and for many before it, as well as his many other later works, he - Beethoven- could not hear a thing. Wow!
Alexov54 3 years ago
Yes choti, it will be a big tragedy when these clips are taken down.
jerbiebarb 3 years ago
Beethoven is so deep.... And what tremendous playing, by one who not only understands the man Beethoven but can so athentically express the yearnings of the great comoser through his music.
siralchemistuk 3 years ago
His banging the damper pedal is a bit annoying, but unbelievable playing
Grigor99 3 years ago
That is a fact about Barenboim's playing:he bangs a lot!!!
superbemaison 3 years ago
He is clearly a very potent pianist. But to my taste he is not a good Beethoven interpreter. In fact I don't really understand how he is even compared to Arrau or Richter. For me his playing is technically superb but artistically disengaged. His body language (show) has more dramatizing then his playing. That's, of course, my taste.
laklaka 3 years ago
You are right:Richter is by far superior to all of them.
Barenboim is a good musicien and I admire him but not for his Beethoven.
superbemaison 3 years ago
@superbemaison
You know what?
First learn how to spell correctly,and then criticize .
By the way his Beethoven doesn't satisfy you?
Then you have some MAJOR PROBLEMS.
The55555SSSSS 1 year ago 2
@The55555SSSSS MusiciAn of course in Shakespeare's language!Sorry-now I can say I don't like Barenboim's Beethoven .Mainly in the last Beethoven op106 and op111.
Do you feel better?
superbemaison 1 year ago
Barenboim is a great pianist and a great Beethoven performer but the cenit of the op. 111 performances is property of Arrau
claudioarrau1903 3 years ago
ooh i dunno, annie fischer...
lazawrcat666 3 years ago
Arrau???Not in my life!!Awfull and boring!!!!
superbemaison 3 years ago
At last!
I thought i was the only one who disliked his Beethoven!
john9487 3 years ago
See,time settles everything!!
His tempi are all too slow because he is lacking technical abilities and he has no time to practice since he travels permanently.His memory serves him a lot.
superbemaison 3 years ago
I am talking about Barenboim .
I don't waste time talking about Arau...
superbemaison 3 years ago
WOW!
themountainviewguy 3 years ago
The legend Barenboim, absolutely the most intense and best beethoven performer
Palkab 3 years ago
"Absolutely the best"? Amazon lists 164 different recordings for this sonata. Arguably, there's quite a few duplicates in there, but still, did you listen to all of them ?
"The most intense": How about Richter and Yudina (among others)? The truth is, there are many "best" versions of this sonata.
marca961 3 years ago 3
It is indeed silly, in a way, to talk of absolutes in this field. I have listened to many, many exceptionally talented people play this piece over the years. But tonight, having listened to both Richter and Barenboim playing it, I have to say that I preferred the latter's rendition, tonight. But that's just an opinion. There are no facts, unless I was to say both of them play it a heap better than me. Now THAT is a fact!
Alexov54 3 years ago
Would you reall call him the best Beethoven Performer??
Pianist54d 3 years ago
seriously, he is phenomenal. his beethoven is really the best; the standard favorite, brendel, though excellent, lacks the intense emotion of barenboim. The opening of the allegro con brio here is shattering
Anjro0 3 years ago
n o t at all!
kajohada 3 years ago
touchee. i love brendel too if thats what u mean
Anjro0 3 years ago
I like Barenboimes version much more than the others. No one plays ops 111 as passionate as Barenboim. He trully is a master !
gorgalsi 3 years ago
Barenboim has this one nailed down, and anyone who knows the late Beethoven sonatas should appreciate not only his technical execution here, but the emotional execution as well.
kidobutai2003 3 years ago
I was watching this again. I noticed that he punches the Dflat at 3:22 and again in the repeated bar later. I remember also Brendel doing this on the last note o