Great British Circus - tigers going stir crazy

[crazylion7]

the comments on this page are disgusting. anyone who thinks an animal WANTs to permorm in a circus ring and is happy to do so, is absolutely ridiculous. they do as they're told because they are beaten - type great british circus int youtube and view the footage of the great british circus abusing their elephants and other animals. you humans, if thats what you can call yourselves are barbaric, and shold be locked in a cage and forced to perform. @little secret. your sick

[alexkeysmusic]

Tiger 1 - "See that daft c*nt over there mate?"

Tiger 2 - "The one looks like he hasn't had a bath before?"

Tiger 1 - "Aye him, he's been here every night this week."

Tiger 2 - "Maybe he doesn't have a home - doesn't look like it"

Tiger 1 - "Sad though isn't it?"

Tiger 2 - "What's that?"

Tiger 1 - "Well some of them humans have such sad fucking lives they end up interfering with other peoples - when they haven't got a clue what they're talking about"

Tiger 2 - "Nowt as queer as folk lad"

[mrfurrylover]

@alexkeysmusic Try living your life in a cage

[littlesercet]

That women was so attractive eh? Clearly she belongs in the circus

[ssmarilyn]

These animals belong in the wild, where they came from, and not locked up and forced to do stupid tricks for us silly humans. Shame on us.

[circusunite]

oh dear, i see the kids have come out to play. for starters CSC is right,2nd mrfurrylover did the GBC upset you? did they tell your mum to not change your diaper at ringside?

look simple fact is this was filmed at an angle thats designed to clearly avoid showing the other side of the tiger cages that has a huge outdoor area where they love to be 99% of the time,tigers pace at feeding time,finally scientific evidence supports animal welfare in circuses n not the false claims by AR activists

[mrfurrylover]

@circusunite you are wrong on all counts. Firstly all the data collected CLEARLY shows wild animals in captivity need enrichment. The GBC provide none. The huge outdoor area you are referring to is a figment of your imagination. The tigers are housed in beast wagons for 22hours of the day, the only time they come out is to be moved to another cage (to perform or have their training reinforced.. The exercise cage you are referring to is no more than 20 ft x 20ft. BIG DEAL. spare your crap

[mrfurrylover]

For someone who believes your lies. With a name like circusunite why does your lies not surprise me. Check out my video I posted yesterday of the White tigeress at the GBC, as she was pacing for hours no doubt she was waiting for her dinner ah? Nothing to do with the fact of being bored out of her skull stuck in a 2mx2m cage? Your days are numbered circusboy :-)

[littlesercet]

@circusunite tigers may pace at feeding time as there stressed they may also and there is strong evidence of this that big cats pace there cages most of the days. Its common for circus animals

[csc99]

Have I missed something?? At what point is the tiger going stir crazy?? You may have qualifications & a job but so do and I also studied animal behaviour for 2 years!!

They are pacing, it's feeding time. If these animals were unhappy or ill they wouldn't perform. I've seen these animals & the show. I by no means agree with the treatment of the elephant but once it was bought to light the person in question was sacked on the spot.. Get your facts straight before you belittle someones livelyhood

[mrfurrylover]

@csc99 Feeding time all day everyday is it?

Clearly the tigers are displaying stereotypical ABNORMAL behaviour. No excuse for animal ABUSE. They perform because they are FORCED it has nothing to do with happiness

[csc99]

@mrfurrylover And you watched them all day did you??. You've already said you work all day!!!

So at which college did you study animal behaviour, obvousely wasn't the same one I did... I've seen the show none of the animals were FORCED to do anything.. Realy have you tried to FORCE a tiger to do something they didn't want too?? I agree there is no excuse for animal ABUSE but they would have been closed down if there was significant evidence of it!!!!!!!!!

[mrfurrylover]

@csc99 You are telling me you studied animal behaviour for how long? And you do not know stereotypical abnormal behaviour? Yes I watched those poor tigers from midday til 8pm & they done that the whole time. Bit then what else would anyone with a brain expect? The life of a circus tiger is one of confinement. Have you seen the size of the beastwagons they live 10months of their life in every year? Tigers are bred in captivity and taught from an early age to perform to earn their keep.

[mrfurrylover]

@csc99 Even if these animals were taught with positive reinforcement ie clicker training food rewards the travelling circus would still NEVER be a suitable environment for these animals due to space limitations, travelling, training etc. I'm really surprised someone like yourself who claims to have an insight would defend this guy? Or maybe you have a vested interest.? Every study I have EVER read clearly states for these animals to live in captivity they need enrichment. A much larger space

[bigcatsrule666]

@mrfurrylover - well said! And I still find it hard to believe that some deluded morons (like csc99) say that if the animals were unhappy or ill they wouldn't perform. The ONLY reason they do perform is out of fear. These people are no better than the evil bastards that use & exploit these animals in the circus. Keep up the good work in educating people about the cruel suffering these poor animals endure :)

[mrfurrylover]

They need space to climb & hide. A pool to cool down in. But not only physical actinides but also mental ones to keep them stimulated. Why do you find it acceptable for wild animals to be bred & kept in these conditions for your entertainment? Would you like to spend your life in a cage, being watched constantly & made to perform for your food? I think not

[babygirlss2006]

@csc99 whatever u studied needs to be thrown in the bin ur fucking stupid how can u think for 1 second this is adequete living dumb ass can see your parents raised u like a retard

[animalcrazy1981]

@csc99 If you studied animal behaviour then you should know better! If you believe that animals perform because they are happy then you are an absolute idiot! Its is widely realised that animals perform un-natural tricks purely out of fear and force. You clearly need to go back to college cos you know shit - or better yet, go join an animal circus and and then come back and tell us how well they are treated...

[mrfurrylover]

@animalcrazy1981 :-) so true

[littlesercet]

@csc99 lol you make me laugh. ' If these animals were unhappy they wouldn't perform' Bullshit. Animals perform because there scared of what will happen if they don't so they will peform when ill and i seriously doubt any animal living in that way of life would be ' happy'

[jimmyass]

should have gone there and punched the fuckers who run it.

[Smasherelsa]

Good on you furrylover for filming this people should be shown what goes on in these prison camps for animals can you imagine pacing up and down a cage all day stressed these beautiful tigers need their natural habitat the elephants tied so they cannot move why should it be any different for a animal than to a human they deserve the deepest respect to many people are ignorant and see them just for the money cruel B*******!

[mrfurrylover]

@Smasherelsa This was filmed just before Martin Lacey made the elephants vanish as he had a tip off ADI had secret footage of them beating the elephants & the RSPCA were coming to take the elephants. As far as I'm aware they are now being forced to perform again in German circuses :(

Cruel & sadistic that's what these people are :(

[M1F2R3]

@mrfurrylover Makes me feel fucking sick, why the hell would people fund this? Thanks for uploading.

[mrfurrylover]

@M1F2R3 My pleasure I filmed that clip 1week before the footage came out of them beating the shit out of their elephants. Bastards :(

[M1F2R3]

@mrfurrylover I saw that in the newspapers, something about a Romanian and a gardening tool? How can people be so ignorant to the abuse that occurs behind the scenes.

[mrfurrylover]

@M1F2R3 That was Anne the elephant @ Bobby Roberts Circus :( with a pitch fork thankfully she was removed yesterday:) only after enduring 50 years in their crappy circus. If you look at my other videos look for Great British Circus exposed that is the video of them beating their elephants. People are shallow their happiness comes before anyone or anything :(

[M1F2R3]

@mrfurrylover Just read it in the newspapers mate, so glad to see Longleat doing the right thing. I hope she just enjoys the rest of her life and forgets the terrible memories.

[mrfurrylover]

@M1F2R3 Me too :)

[Smasherelsa]

Good on you furrylover this is not acceptable those elephants tied cant move those beautiful tigers pacing up and down in a cage all day stressing bored this is not how wild animals should be! Shameful all for the colour of money! How can people like watching this look at the videos attacked, beaten, spat on, who do the hell people think they are id choose a animal over a human any day!

[jaedenjoshua]

im going this sunday, i cant wait to see them crazy tigers and them abused elephants, them camels look fucked too! cant wait.

[TheBailey0011]

Ur the small size of that animal hah that was funny

[sammylu1994]

hey who ever u are can i say the GBC may have animals in the circus but they treat them with respect.

if u was a tiger and u got treated like wrongley would u proform no u would attack. tigers do have minds of there own.

ahhh no lets all protest about a zoo it's got animals in.I think people like this need to go and explore afric then come back and say a circus for animals is wrong it is better then letting them get killed by people for there skins and getting them stuffed.

i love GBC

[mrfurrylover]

@sammylu1994 You call keeping wild animals in cages barely big enough to turn around respect? I don't. No animal deserves this. And you are also wrong about the tigers. They are beaten @ an early age, they are scared shitless & know if they don't do as there told they will be beaten. Behind closed doors of course. May I suggest you google cruel animal circuses you might learn summit

[sammylu1994]

@mrfurrylover i dont care what people think about gbc i go evey year and will give them my money.

thats all i am going to say

[bigcatsrule666]

@sammylu1994 Well that makes you no better than the evil bastards in the circus that abuse the animals. How can you live with yourself supporting such suffering and misery?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[TheZelez]

The person filming this (while he thought he was being clever)was an arsehole. How child-like can a person be?

He was meant to be there to FILM the animals to see how they were treated,but in the end ended up shouting foolish comments at workers of the circus. The worker had a whip for the elephant, much like we have for horses

Many circus animals are not harmed in anyway. They live much the same as the people in the circus. At one time a circus wasn't called a circus UNLESS IT HAD ANIMALS.

[mrfurrylover]

@TheZelez The person filming was me. As the elephants at this circus had been beaten on a regular basis I thought it was a fair comment.

Thankfully people are not so fickle nowadays like they were in years gone by, MOST people nowadays do not find it acceptable for animals to be kept & treated this way all in the name of entertainment!!!

[butterflybabe666]

@TheZelez bullshit bullshit, people have spoken out! animal circus's have lost! look at all the hate against them!! they lose !!

[NottmAnimalRights]

I've seen the tigers pacing in those little cages and if the GBH, sorry GBC didn't know they were being cruel they wouldn't be so freaked by people filming the sorry conditions of their animals! They have just branched out from just beating animals and now seem to get a kick from attacking dog walkers . . .

[andsimona]

omg why dont you lot shut the fuck u because the GBC doesnt beat their aimals and i know it

[freevue]

let's cut to the chase and ask ADI or CAPS about Defra's public consultation on the use of wild animals in UK circuses. Then complete the free online survey. Closes 15 March 2010.

[blondemax]

You get the feeling that the person filming that was a bit of an inbred fool who probaly doesnt have a single qualification to his name- Otherwise he's be at his fucking work not tormenting other people.  Or being a complete bitch

[mrfurrylover]

Not really no.

I have qualifications & a job. And I was actually

going there after work everyday.

From your comments I don't understand what

you are talking about? Other than the fact

you are slightly retarded and illeterate

[hawaiimethodman]

@blondemax

you must be one of those retarded that comes seeing other animal getting abused.

This guy is just showing what he thinks its right. don't blame him for trying changing the world. blame your self for been an hater.

[n201081]

Oh im fairly sure you will meet me in 2010.

Oh another thing " Ladies and gentlemen bring on the performing sealions" lol

[mrfurrylover]

Why are you a Performing sealion? Or is that your speciality? Breeding sealions to be abused? Sure they love travelling around in conditions worse than the tigers. Always knew you had some connection to animal abuse& exploitation, which is why your so pally with the circus scum. My friends are mostly professional people. Something you would know nothing about as you only mix with pondlife. I love the fact all you sados assume any1 who cares 4amimals is jobless&unwashed losers

[mrfurrylover]

Maybe you should hook up with another sado Thomas Chipperfield at Duffys circus. He has aligators at the beginning of his pathetic show. Whatever next? You people couldn't stoop any lower if you tried. It's about time you sad lot started working for your own money instead of inflicting suffering on animals to do it 4you. You all make me sick. If as a human you were treated half as bad as these animals you be crying everyday that no one listened. ANIMAL ABUSERS

[n201081]

haha i feel so sorry for you furry. your going over the same old thing time and time again.....i have plenty of friends thankyou. i just dont need to use internet sites to make them-i have real ones. Im guessing yours are the local hippy brigade,unwashed and living off our taxes. but what can we expect.These crazy nutters think the food chain is wrong,so we cant expect them to act in even a half normal way. The public arewaking up at long last

[n201081]

Oh dear, a few spelling mistakes in my last post-im sure furry or one of the other looneys will pick up on it,has they always do when they cant find any further info to support their poor argument

[mrfurrylover]

I thought I'd put a few spelling mistakes in

just to make you feel at home n201081

what type of name is that? Are you sacred

of people knowing your real name?

Tho looking at your profile you don't

actually have any friends do you?

Wonder why that is? :)

[n201081]

lol back to ur personel abuse again are we furry.

Altohugh god only knows how you possibly be can because i know 100% certain you have never seen me.

I dont need help-its the hippy brigade that needs help! As you have so much knowledge, no doubt you will be able to confirm how many hours per day a tiger needs to sleep and how many hours per day it thinks about moving if only it had the energy to do so??

[mrfurrylover]

Don't ever want 2c u

if ur face is anywhere near as ugly as ur soul? I'm sure you would have shaved ur ass & teached iyourself to

walk backwards? Hmmmm

as for your spelling either you grasped the English

language in a few weeks oryour a different person. Either way I don't care.

My dogs like to sleep after being exercised PROPERLY

if they were trapped in suchcramped,appalling conditions

I'm sure they would have no choice but to sllep alot more as well :(

[mrfurrylover]

But then my animals are loved not exploited. Free not caged

my dogs must be one quater of the size of a tiger yet I wouldn't dream of letting them live in a cage the size of their so called exercise pen let alone the beastwagons.

I pity all the poor circus animals. I pity your mum as well for giving birth to you lol

[mrfurrylover]

There is nothing great or British bout the

great British circus. Just animals made to

suffer at the hands of their captors.

I fear you have eaten to many tained burgers

from the gbc. It has given you mad cow disease.

Lol

how any1 cld be so sad to defend this pile

of shit is beyond me.

There's people who can help you

n201081 :) there called shrinks lol

[n201081]

Yes furry,you show tigers in their sleeping quarters,no doubt to give a false impression but forget to show their play cage. In any case,showing this on film,wheather filmed by yourself or the media will never do the quarters justice and presents a false image. Every person whi vists the circus is allowed to visit the the animal quarters afterwards,so there is no need to to hide in a bush.you could view the animals and learn something

[mrfurrylover]

No n201081 it is you who gives a false impression. These tigers spend 90% of their time in those beastwagons. How is that false? It's the TRUTH. Unlike the bullshit that comes out of your mouth. The exercise own you keep reffering to is a joke. Exercise pen. How can you call an area that isn't big enough to keeps jack Russell their exercise pen. The only thing this&every other animal circus can teach us is how backward we are in our thinking, to be in the year 2009 & still have wild animals

[mrfurrylover]

Being made to perform stupid degrading tricks,

in the name of entertainment. All this teaches

us&our kids is that it's ok to abuse animals when

it is not. It's time to banish this abuse to the

history books when it belongs

I have a job & I wash do you n201081?

You say bout me in a bush yet it is you who

hit every branch of the ugly tree on your way

down. Lol

[n201081]

Dont lie fran7377. you would hide in a bush shouting abuse just like all animal rights cowards and just like mrfurrymuppett shows us in this video

[mrfurrylover]

You still here n201081?

Why do you think I was in the bushes?

Because it was the closest point of filming

the elephants&tigers. Video of which I show

here. It clearly shows tigers pacing in their

cramped inhumane conditions.

Boycott the Great British Circus

put an end to this cruelty

[Fran7377]

That woman was such a douchebag! Urgh! The only reason i'd ever go to a circus like this would be to egg the bastards who abuse animals.

[n201081]

lol Ok furry so now you assume that the animals are loved and cared for. Is your true identity Mystic Meg?

We are more then aware thankyou that the rspca are the same as every animal rights group.they are only interested in how much money they can con out of the public,and only target circuses because they do not have the time ,money or resourses to fight back as other groups do.Come on,admit it ! its all a big money scam.

[mrfurrylover]

The RSPCA was set up to try and

protect animals from abuse.

The reason they target circuses is because

they are cruel and outdated. Wild animals

have no place in circuses anymore.

You catagorise anyone who cares for animals

as a terrorist. You are pathetic, a complete

joke. You need to get a job & seek professional

help

[n201081]

No doubt you will of seen todays latest news furry..The rspca who are so against Performing animals decided to have performing dogs at theor annual fundraiser. hahahaha. I think this tells the public everything.Another big mistake!

[mrfurrylover]

And?

Everyone knows the RSPCA aren't perfect.

but at least you can be sure that all the

animals performing there would have done

so with love & enjoyment for what they were

doing. Unlike the caged or tethered animals

at the gbc.

[n201081]

Furry - do you just talk total rubbish on purpose or are you brain dead?

You mention there is no mention of Elephants on the GBC website. Totally false! the website is the same has it always has been,though the Elephants are not in the show for the last few weeks of the amazing 2009 season. Then you say tickets are being sold at half price? they are the same price as always! you do talk rubbish dont you?

[mrfurrylover]

N201081 you should have gone to specsavers.

The GBC website clearly states all the animals that perform in their shit show, and GUESS WHAT? Elephants arent on the list. SO once again get your facts straight. I know you have a history of compulsive lying but its getting out of hand.

Time after time you have proven yourself to be a liar, but then being from the circus it must be innate for you now?

As for ticket sales its a good job you charge so much for your burgers ha ha ha

[n201081]

LOL you get your facts right. The GBC have removed the Elephants from there list of animals performing because they are not currently in the show.Why would they want to false advertise? go to a few of the other pages and you will see plenty about the Elephants! So who looks like a lieing silly prat now!

[danfearn]

must have A big front room

[mrfurrylover]

Thats the whole point I DONT

The exercise area is STUPIDLY small

Just like the brains of the people who exploit them

[mrfurrylover]

If anyone reading this has the time. Please read about Martin Laceys involvement with Noahs Ark Zoo Farm nr Bristol. Either click on the link in my video description or check out The Captive Animals Protection Society and view the inside out west video expose. Just over 10mins long it shows the disgusting lengths these people will go.  Also clearly shows how the tigeress should have incinerated not buried. Martin Lacey asked for the head & feet back.

Sick BASTARD. Wonder how many of them he has

[mrfurrylover]

No elephants mentioned on the website anymore? What a shame.

I notice tickets are being sold for half price. Still they were actually giving them away by where I live just to try and get people to go. Actually sending people FREE tickets. Wonder why that is? Something to do with how shit the show is maybe? That you couldnt give them away lol

N201081 are you the ugly cow who was trying to take my photo in my video? The one with the TEETH? lol ha ha

[n201081]

Here we go again Furry. How sad.Just like all animal rights looneys who cant get there own way and force there oppinions on everyone else,they run out of things to say(or realise the public are not listening) and result to personal insults. One with the teeth? why have you not got any and your jealous? if we want to be personal looking at your profile,im guessing her poor camera is broken now after taking your picture!

[mrfurrylover]

Must say n201081 your english lessons have been coming on remarkably well. Must be hard communicating tho with teeth that big lol ha ha ha

God I cant stop laughing!!! ha ha ha

Yes i have all my own teeth thankyou, maybe if you do go to specsavers you could look at my profile pic properly.

My partners camera broke :)

Oh you say the most painful things!!!

So are you the one and only bugs bunny?

[n201081]

Unfortunatley you are wrong again! but i guess you will find out who i am next year,no doubt you will be hiding in bushes near by. You are going to have a busy year next year arnt you furry ? with all your knowledge,no doubt you will of heard about the new shows on the road..And you told me animal circuses were dieing?

[n201081]

May i again take this opportunity to again thankyou on behalf of all British Circuses for providing so much FREE media publicity.You really have been wonderful and they can thankyou enough...Just like every year,you really do your bit to improve audience figures- i finally have some respect for you furry,because if it wernt for people like you,then no doubt circus would not be enjoying such fantastic audience figures. Many Thanks and lots of love.........

[mrfurrylover]

No n201081 Id like to personally thank you and the GBC for this year you couldnt have screwed up more if you tried. The circus animal industry is based on secrecy & that the animals are so well looked after. This year every news channel in the land has shown the video of the elephants being beaten. And now the world can read about your sick breeding programs. Where animals die and their deaths are covered up. Regards your comments on the tigeress that died. When she was beheaded and skinned...

[mrfurrylover]

And had her feet hacked off. You ask what the people should have done? Not treat her like a bit of rubbish. Carried out an autopsy to discover why she died. ? But hey plenty more where she came from ah? Just another dumb animal that died for the industry. The industry that is so much nicer than living in the wild!!!

Martin Lacey along with his animals will be licking their wounds at the end of this season thats for sure!!! lol

The TRUTH will always out.

What happened to the elephant act?

[n201081]

To ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOVE,THE ELEPHANTS WILL BE BACK IN 2010. oh the GBC circus know where you will be too.Hiding in the bushes taking pictures of people - little on the creepy side that,theres plenty of people arrested for things like that too!

[n201081]

furry,if i worked with Martin,i would have far less time to listen to your shit. Why? because i would be very busy,and what a fantastic season for animal circuses.

Yes i agree,you looked very manly hiding behind that bush. NOT !

WHAT ? YOU HAVE A jOB? That must be a first for AR looney.

I know,its awful about the tiger. It died ,get over it. What did you want them to do with it?

[mrfurrylover]

Do you really think iwould need to hide away

from any of them cowards who work at gbc?

None of them are real men, just sad little losers

who couldn't get a REAL job. But you would

understand that wouldn't you? Not having a

life :)

public relations 4martin lacey very tough job

you must get covered in shit all the time? Being

so far up his ass.

[mrfurrylover]

N201081 you really are the biggest loser I have had the misfortune to talk to. Just because you see nothing wrong with martin lacey & zoos breeding tigers that then die & are skinned & chopped into pieces, that doesn't mean the rest of us decent law abiding folk aren't upset. It is disgusting that he or anyone else who does this is allowed by law. The fact you just dismiss it is O WELL, only goes to prove what I've known along. That you ALONG with your circus chums have no soul,no conscience.

[mrfurrylover]

No MORALS just greed & a total disregard for any other living creature other than yourself. Just look at what you wrote, about the tiger. The public are waking up.FINALLY to the fact that circuses with animals are cruel and barbaric & have no place in modern Britain. If I didn't have a job I would follow the crappy gbc everywhere and tell the world how these people exploitanimals merely to make money. I wouldn't let rain put me off. Maybe gbc can do a month near me soon?

[n201081]

The tiger at the zoo. WOW that really is big news,tigers being bread,one died and was buried. What next Furry? The Wheel ? lol

I feel sorry not only for your dogs but you too.

And look at dingwei7 comment. How old is he? 7 ? we all know he did nt do any of that,its just for show. After all,it aint been real nice weather lately,and AR dont care about animals when its raining.

So YOU AND YOUR LIES are the pathetic thing and thank goodness the public are waking up to it!

[n201081]

Try this one brain dead dog abuser ! CAPS admitted it themselves so dont tell me i cant do maths.The extra £10000 no dobt came from public donations the year before!

You dont like it when your little scam scum animal rights groups are exposed do you?

And its time to face the truth-the Gbc had a great year,but maybe you did nt know because you were hiding behind a bush filming,and the best comment you could make was about someones weight? how pathetic

[n201081]

CAPS! EXPOSED AS A SCAM. THEY RECEIVED £28000 FOR ANIMAL WELFARE RECENTLY THROUGH KIND PUBLIC DONATIONS. They then paid their staff £38000 ! !

Like all animal rights scum,they are ripping people off to raise funds to line their own pockets. I urge the public to think before parting with one penny. Some years ago,the RSPCA Were also exposed,building £1m office blocks with public donations. Think before handing over money,most of the time it does not go to help any animals in need!

[mrfurrylover]

N201081 do you just dream up random shit

then try & spread lies? Every claim you have

ever made has been proven to be inaccurate.

Basically your just a bullshitter aren't you. There's

Mr Lacey in the news again caught with his

breeders who beheaded a tigeress, skinned

her chopped off her paws. Just so it didn't become

public knowledge. Yet there you are banging on bout ar charaties. Who wouldn't exist were it not for scum

like you & Mr L who c fit to exploit animals

for profit. LOSERS!!!!

[mrfurrylover]

You are so stupid n201081 it's no wonder you work for that 2bit crappy circus :)lol no mention bout the elephants then? Caps received £28000yet paid out £38000 that makes sense doesn't it. With maths skills like that it's no wonder you thought Gbc had a good year :) ha ha ha why do u always try & point the finger somewhere else? Everyone knows it's because you want to hide the REAL TRUTH which is animals die& suffer to make you people money. You and your lies are laughable. Pathetic!!!

[n201081]

There you go furry,supporting terror acts again!

As for there exercise cage dingwei7 scum,you will fiind you have written a statement which proves you know nothing of what you are talking about. Like all Animal rights scum raising funds for there silly little campaigns

[dingwei7]

nice one, went down to the GBC with a whole group a mates n started lobing loadsa crap at the trainers got one of them straight in the head, the one whos pointing at u looks familer, thinkin of shooting mr lacey in the head next haha!

[mrfurrylover]

Stirling work major

carry on!!!

[mrfurrylover]

I notice now on the GBC website that they don't mention elephants on their description of their circus act. No doubt because them poor bastards are now back in Germany being exploited & abused over there instead. Sad how some people see this as acceptable. People who give to the likes of CAPS do so coz they want to help &stop the abuse animals suffer by the likes of yourself & martin laceys of this world. You live with your head up yours & martin laceys ass. what goes around comes around.

[mrfurrylover]

N201081 I love the way you say "the camera don't lie" yet every bit of footage taken recently of this circus & every other animal circus clearly shows the torment these animals have to endure just to line the pockets of their captors. Only people who profit from their abuse could ever speak for the circus. You are disgusting martin lacey is a vile little man you two make a good pair. Both as sad as each other lol maybe when martin lacey dies you could have his tooth as your gravestone lmao :)

[mrfurrylover]

N201081 nobody cares what you think. You have proven yourself a liar time after time. What the hell do you know about AR? you find nothing wrong with seeing animals degraded for your entertainment. Confined, condemned to a life of slavery. Truth is Martin Lacey his son and all you other circus scum, you exploit animals to make money. Full stop. They suffer you profit. You people make me sick. Check out Captive Animals Protection Society. Latest expose of Martin Lacey owner of the sick GBC

[misfit1996]

well done mate! good on you!

[n201081]

Tigers and Lions need to sleep for around 18 hhours of every day.The remaining hours are taken up by training,eating,and time in there exercise cage. These tigers-who were all born on the circus and dont know any other way of life, have a very stimulating day.

Furrys vido gives a false impression and all you can see is their sleeping quarters. And this can not be argued as you are free to view there living space after every performance.

[mrfurrylover]

Their living conditions before the performance are the same as afterwards, appalling &inadequate. Nothing changes they move from one tiny cage to another. But coz they sleep so long it's fine? Sleeping is their only escape from a life which must seem like hell. Their exercise pen Is a joke. They very rarely gain access to an area smaller than a double garage. Cruel sick bastards the lot of you animal abusing scum

[dingwei7]

exercise cage....would that be there 20ft long driving them crazy exercise cage? "stimulating day" haha what a joke!

[n201081]

I urge the public to watch a video here on "you tube" called Martin Lacey Jr. - Behind the Scenes - TV Report + Interview

Then tell these animal rights looneys if these look like beaten frightened animals. They clearly love their contact with Martin jnr,and the love between man and animal is there for all to see.The camera dont lie!

[misfit1996]

n201081 I urge you to think size of cage to animal (sorry wild animal as you can never truely tame a big cat) surely the sizes of living area is enough with out going on about beatings etc, wake up mate!

[n201081]

For Once,i agree with a animal rights protestor.Indeed do not listen to me,go along and see the wonderful conditions of the animals for yourselves just like you have been doing all season. Hopefully you will continue to support them in 2010 and they will have another bumper season

[n201081]

Wonder if this video was made by furry-best he could do to support his argument is comment on a persons weight-how sad is that lol

[n201081]

Look at this video.All taken hiding behind a bush! haha...... Scared of Mr Lacey arnt you Furry haha

[mrfurrylover]

Scared of that animal abusing scum? I think not. I'd love him to try that abusing shit with me.?the man is vile. He doesn't deserve to share the same air I breath. Nor you for that matter. Circus SCUM may you all rot in hell

[mrfurrylover]

Looks like Jonathon retracted all his comments.

What a shame.

Animal Circus SCUM

[JonathanSmith90]

You don't nee to assure me that there are good circuses as I have been most myself, however a circus with animals is far more appealing to the public. Fourthly, If the more dangerous animals e.g. Lions, Tigers were not in a suitable enclosure, then you would say it was irresponsible of the circus to not protect the public from them, more importantly it's the other way round, as they don't wont some 'looney' to torment them that won't have the knowledge and experience of handling the animals.

[JonathanSmith90]

If you had any respect for that elephant you wouldn't distress it by shouting at it and filming it in the manner you were displaying, which is very likely why the elephant stopped walking.

A circus without animals is not a circus, it's a traveling variety show. The correct definition of a circus is a show with human and animal artists combined. So what your really saying is that you don't want people to go to circuses at all?

[mrfurrylover]

If I had respect for that elephant I wouldn't shout at it?

Do you work for the gbc?

Did you seen the undercover video on sky news & every other news channel recently of the elephants being beaten at the hands of this circus?

I circus without animals is not a circus?

What era are you from?

Let me assure you there are many fine circuses out there

that rely on human talent and not animal abuse.

You obviously find it acceptable for WILD animals to be caged & beaten for your entertainment?

Shame onU

[JonathanSmith90]

Firstly, I am no way connected to the GBC. Secondly, the man who was filmed beating the elephants was sacked immediately after the incident occurred, bearing in mind that it happened in May, so why did ADI leave such a long time between filming it and giving it to the press.... It's as they were looking for more footage but there was nothing to be found, as there was nothing wrong

[JonathanSmith90]

Have you ever seen lions and tigers play fighting in the wild? If they did that to a human he/she would be dead instantly and thats the way they play so what you may think is cruel is certainly not. Also, I would like to point out that the animals are not wild; they have been bread in captivity for 100's of years.

[mrfurrylover]

So you are saying because an animal has been bred in captivity then it is fine to confine it to such a small area? When its natural roaming area would be around 50km, instead of an 12ft x 6ft cage. And that it no longer has the instinct of a wild animal?

Why is it then that they still attack their trainers?

Do you really believe that because they have been bred in captivity that they are now DOMESTICATED? Really?

Why is it then that they would attack a human and kill them? Coz they are playing?

[mrfurrylover]

Ok Jonathan

Firstly may I ask have you watched the ADI video?

Yes the elephant keeper was sacked, but what about the handler? Did you or did you not see him hit the elephant (behind closed doors)and use a metal hook to make it perform?

Have you ever wandered how it is these creatures perform these tricks? I will tell you, through violence, intimidation and darn right nastiness. You show me one elephant trainer that has ever trained them without using them methods. You cant because everyone who

[mrfurrylover]

has ever researched the subject knows thats a fact. ALL ex-circus elephant trainers will tell you that. If you look online at elephant training techniques, violence is all you will ever find.

But as long as they perform tricks for you thats ok then is it?

Well its not for me nor 80% of the british public.

An animal circus may be appealing to familys with kids until they know the truth then suddenly its not quite so great.

[mrfurrylover]

The footage was passed on to the relevant authorities but as always nothing was done.

Why does that not surprise me? Martin Lacey even received a tip off the day before the elephants were due to be inspected by the rspca, and as a result moved them so they couldnt be inspected. Some back handers going on there.

Basically as long as you can see these animals performing tricks for yourself you couldnt give a damn whatr there lives are like could you.

Try for just one minute not being so narrow

[mrfurrylover]

minded and actually think how life must be like for these animals? Being forced to travel around the country, kept in tiny cramped conditions. And yes the exercise pen is discustingly small.

You commented that I should not have shouted at the elephants, what do you think happens to them every day of their lives when they are made to perform these tricks in front of people? They have music pumped at them, children screaming people shouting.

Everyday must seem like hell.

A walking living nightmare

[JonathanSmith90]

Of course you are entitled to your own opinion of the argument but sadly I don't believe a word of what you say, you come across as you love all animals and hate humans, which is certainly not a healthy balance of perception. The people that I know from Circuses are the genuine nicest I have ever met and the majority of them are animal trainers, whom I have also never seen any cruelty what so ever. It's the same in every business there are good and there are bad.

[mrfurrylover]

I have an equal love for humans & animals

alike. But humans have to earn my respect.

Sadly beating a defenceless animal into

submission doesn't bode too well with me.

I'm sure you have met many charming

people but you have never seen the training

that goes on behind closed doors have you?

I know to keep any creature man or beast caged

against their will is a crime. It would be morally

very wrong for me to sit back & do nothing...

[mrfurrylover]

Of course everyone is entiltled to their opinion but when people exploit others for their own ill gotten gains that's where I draw the line. Animal circuses are cruel there can be no denying that. The way they are kept, trained is inhumane. Maybe if you spent one day in their lives you would see that, instead of what you want to. You can walk away it is a liberty they do not have. Gooday to you Jonathan we agree to disagree

[mrfurrylover]

Did it occur to you that the animals you have seen being trained are in fact already trained and are simply having their training refreshed? If training is so humane, then explain why an eminent wild animal trainer himself says that 'It is impossible to train a wild animal without the use of extreme punishment'? Or as the GBC call it; 'Negative reinforcement'? How can I ever see confinement, stress and punishment as correct? Not in this lifetime....

[mrfurrylover]

There are numerous whistle blowers. Google circus workers speak out, or circus elephant training methods. They all point to the exact same methods, I feel you should pay particular attention to the breaking in phase. Or perhaps you could research how the 3elephants in the GBC actually came to be there? Having witnessed their parents murdered in front of them then sold into a life of despair. How one of the elephants Delhi has leg problems and has already collapsed twice only being raised by...

[mrfurrylover]

firefighters using cranes. Yet she`s still there performing unnatural tricks.

But I dont suppose that would concern you would it?

Like my video of the tigers pacing up and down their cages? All perfectly fine by you?

Because you only see what you want to see because that suits you. How can you ever believe these animals needs are being met?

Travelling hundreds of miles,kept in cramped conditions, made to do unnatural tricks. Its SICK

Noone who loved animals could ever accept this as acceptable

[mrfurrylover]

There is loads of dated footage. Video

evidence all in recent times. Have you still

not watched the videos? The recurring themes?

Ringling bros dated this year, gbc this year.

The training methods are as old as the hills

because they are the only ones that work, for

getting the elephants to perform this way.

Have you ever considered a career in circus

training? I actually think if you haven't already

that you should. Open your eyes and your mind!!!

[n201081]

Your Wild Animal Trainer trainer obviously as either never been a wild animal trainer or he is really a animal rights protestor who is pretending to be a wild animal trainer to give a negetive oppinion.

For anyone who knows anything about animals,it is apparent that most animals on earth will do anything for a food reward. Im not talking now about days gone by ,with animals jumping through hoops of fire,im talking about the natural movements which are shown in most humane circuses nowdays.

[mrfurrylover]

Well well if it isn't n201081 :)

Did you start to miss me? I know I have that effect on lots of people.

Ok back to business. So these animals are WILD again now are they? Glad we got that straight. So just because it pleases you & others like yourself, it is acceptable to have WILD animals trapped in tiny cages? For what is their whole lives trapped in cages being made to perform in the name of entertainment. Modern Britain & this Is still seen as acceptable? Might as well still be living in..

[mrfurrylover]

The dark ages. Because WILD animals were not put on this planet as entertainment for us. And should never be kept against their will being forced to travel the length and breadth of the country kept in tiny cramped conditions, just to make people like yourself happy. If you had any respect for these creatures you would not wish to see them degraded & kept in this way. Anyone with a shred of compassion & interlect wouldn't.

Regards your comment they are trained with positive reinforcement....

[mrfurrylover]

That's not what Mr Lacey sais. read my previous comments. Look at Dicky Chipperfield video on net to see smashing tigers with iron bars. And the other Richard Chipperfield who was maulled by one. Mr L was attacked by 1 but unfortunetly escaped. Shame. There are numerous cases of circus trainers being attacked. Might have something to do with the fact these are wild animals.?

As I have stated to you before they use electric cowprods on them, which is obvious when you actually look & see the fear

[mrfurrylover]

They show In the ring when performing. The electric prod in training is obviously replaced with a stick during the performance.

Why are we having this conversation n201081? You are never going to beleive me as I will never you. Last time we spoke you stated you would never look at my videos

as I was terrorist who told lies. I am neither just someone who cares deeply for animals and is actually prepared to get off my butt & help them

[COMP3LLED2KILL]

Thanks for uploading :)

[COMP3LLED2KILL]

DONT LISTEN TO THAT IGNORANT AND SHALLOW PIECE OF SHITCALLED  n201081, HE IS SO STUPID HE CANT EVEN MAKE AN INTERESTING USERNAME, HE IS AS DUMB AS THEY COME!

[n201081]

A animal such has a tiger or a lion is a powerful wild animal. If these animals were beaten into performing tricks,then there would be a whole record of accidents in circuses with wild animals & Trainers. You can not possibly beat these type of animals into performing tricks.They will attack you regardless and this has been proved over and over again. They still have the wild instinct.Many of these animals have suddenly turned on their trainers for no reason,if they want to attack they will

[COMP3LLED2KILL]

You talk suck a load of SHIT, Circuses sell illusions, is there not enough videos on youtube to prove that circus animals are being abused, wake -up man start livin in the real world, u stupid prick!!!!!!!

[n201081]

NO you need to get a life and start living in the real world you brainless idiot.

I see all this shit on you tube,and i see its nearly all taken abroad! Not here in England,so dont think your some sort of big man because you you go round abusing people with your big mouth,Like all animal rights looneys, your scum.

[COMP3LLED2KILL]

oH! MY God, I am so offended....................

.....Such Harsh words, I cant take it.............

.....I think Im gonna cry now.........Oh my God!..........I'm reachin for a kleenex.............

..........What about the Chipperfield Circus Footage, with the the guy with the english accent beating the elephant, and Mary Chipperfield beating a camel and kicking a monkey into a cage...........Circus Animals dont live a good life, the circus is an illusion, and you buy into it....FOOL!

[n201081]

Same old Chipperfield rubbish from years ago is always the best these people can come up with. We dont ban keeping pets,even though there are hundreds if not thousands of people being cruel to their pets on a daily basis.

[COMP3LLED2KILL]

The only way to dominate an elephant or a tiger or any big cats is to beat them and make them fear the trainer, that's the way all circuses treat animals, an elephant will not perform all those tricks by way of reward (treats) or by talking to them, they are beaten into submission and live in fear and you know it, but wont admit it......

.....there's lots of British circus cruelty footage on youtube, it aint all american.

[n201081]

ok,tell us what british circuses are involved in cruelty.-and i dnt wan to know your oppinons,i want evidence.

Anybody whos knows anything about animals will know the statement you have made about the training of Elephants or Big Cats Is total nonsence. These animals could and would kill there trainers instantly on natural instinct if they wished too!

[COMP3LLED2KILL]

Sorry I dont work for peta or ADI, but I'll look into it.....Elephants are not for our entertainment,

it's bad enough seeing them at the zoo with little room to move....... when they're not performing or behind an electric fence, they are being chained up for up to 90 percent of their lives, and being beaten on a daily basis....and it's all just to entertain circus goers, what a price the Elephants have to pay, no wonder they sway from side to side all the time.

[n201081]

Yes Why Dont you work for ADI. After all they waited for months until they made the video footage of the GBC Elephants Public.

You would think being "true animal lovers" they would of bought the footage to the attention of the GBC AND THE PUBLIC straight aware to put a end to any more suffering for the elephants at the hands of that awful worker. Lucky for the Elephants,the GBC Have there own security measures and sacked the man involved long before ADI could even be bothered!

[n201081]

ADI is a money making scam.They dont care about animal welfare,they care about how much money they can rob the public of!

[COMP3LLED2KILL]

.....and I love you too......n201081.

[mrfurrylover]

N201081 you still alive?

You want evidence? You want flogging!!!

Gbc video of elephants being beaten.

Latest caps expose of martin laceys breeding program.

Whereby tigeress gave birth to 4 cubs, 3 of which died the fourth being taken from it's mum so it could be hand reared into a life of slavery. Mother found dead later. So they sinned her ,chopped off her head & buried her.  To try & hide what they had done. Even deleted her off the website. You have the nerve to ask me for evidence?

SICK

[n201081]

CAPS? HAHAHAHAHA dont make me laugh.

They raised £28000 last year in public donations, and paid there staff £38000.Its a money making scam,like all these animal rights groups.Raising funds from innocent people pretending its all to save the animals. It s to line their own pockets!